Really? Yeah I really dislike creativity. You should come over for a book burning I regularly hold on sundays. It's got generic water and unsalted crackers cause I wouldn't want anybody to have too much fun.
Really lame, fella.
And yet you have no comment towards the other points I made in my post. And you have the gall to call me lame? Really? Then what about every other thing I said in my post? Or does it not compute?
sry, but:
- we already have "lightsabres" (yeah, we do)
- they created 14 new ships for voth and not a single kdf for a loooong time?
- they designed 14 ships that all of the people i talked about with would label as star
wars ships or handguns
- they're adding dinosaurs with frikking lazerz on their head... that sketch just looks like
a blank copy of some toys from the 80's (yep, it has been there)
What do lightsabres have to do with anything? This isn't star wars... XD.
Edit: I fail to see how the Voth ships resemble any star wars ships other than the Mon Cal cruisers, and even then that's pushing it. I do see the resemblance to some weapons from Halo: Reach, but other than that... nope.
As for the new ships? They did the same thing with the release of the Romulans. They did the same thing with the release of the 2800 arc, the breen, the Hirogen, the Tholians, and so on and so forth. And only NOW you're going to complain?
Or do you just fail to see the actual fun behind what they are doing here?
I see this as Cryptic finally taking a step OUT of the proverbial canon box and actually doing something creative and of their own design. And I see that creativity and actual removal from the sanctified canonical sources to be a good thing. A very good thing that brings actual life into a game, instead of having it revolve around in it's rut. This part is directed at you as well OP.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I'm sure that will be arrange able. We're likely to get the costumes as Foundry assets, thus we'll be able to make non-enemy NPCs that look like dinos, thus allowing you to use the Amp on them.
regardless of what people say here, come december everyone is going to be spending hours upon hours shooting dinosaurs.
I don't know about you, but my motive will be driving them back into frakking extinction. And I'll be doing it with orbital bombardment under the auspices of General Order 24.
ATTN: Cryptic:
Fine line between silly and stupid. This entire proposal falls into the stupid category.
That is all.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
What do lightsabres have to do with anything? This isn't star wars... XD.
yep your right. this isn't star wars, but though we got lightsabers lready. pick the sword from nuk-rep and swing it some time against some npc's heads, you'll geit it then.
Edit: I fail to see how the Voth ships resemble any star wars ships other than the Mon Cal cruisers, and even then that's pushing it. I do see the resemblance to some weapons from Halo: Reach, but other than that... nope.
then why that one ship looks almost like a nebulon-b (may the other way round, but shape fits). also u may have a look on episode 1-3, may you see some more similarities.
As for the new ships? They did the same thing with the release of the Romulans. They did the same thing with the release of the 2800 arc, the breen, the Hirogen, the Tholians, and so on and so forth. And only NOW you're going to complain?
nope, not now. did it quite sooner. u know, the point when cryptic killed my last belief that there'll ever be honesty about kdf and pvp.
Or do you just fail to see the actual fun behind what they are doing here?
I see this as Cryptic finally taking a step OUT of the proverbial canon box and actually doing something creative and of their own design. And I see that creativity and actual removal from the sanctified canonical sources to be a good thing. A very good thing that brings actual life into a game, instead of having it revolve around in it's rut. This part is directed at you as well OP.
to u it's fun? nice, enjoy. to me it's not. that quite simple.
they gonna release T-REX WITH FRICKING LAZERZZZ ON THEIR HEAD.
yep... i got several probs with that and i won't share now cause u can read about most of them here posted by others.
this game isn't about "walking out of the canon-box". it's about star trek, at least that's what it says in the title.
i guess u like jj trek? i do not, cause it's not star trek ...
Forums: "STO isn't trek enough!"
Devs: "Okay, here are some Strange New Worlds to explore."
Forums: "But those aren't the right Strange New Worlds! Change it now!"
To the Voth pet haters, I must respectfully disagree. I am looking forward to the new content; regardless of the nerdrage inducing wrongness you think it radiates.
It's quite easy to overlook this but there's an official reply to all the moaners. I've posted it here so people interested can see it without reading and searching the entire thread. I'd thus appreciate this not being moved. If you'd like to discuss it please use the appropriate thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=884031
Obviously putting dinosaurs in Trek has been a bit controversial. As a team, we also thought it was a bit controversial, but decided it made for really good gameplay and art opportunities and ultimately was too awesome and fun not to do. We also think it makes a lot of sense for a scientifically driven, technologically advanced formerly-dinosaur species - after all, our modern military uses trained Dogs and Klingons have used Targs in combat for years by this point. While some posters lament that actual dinosaurs were never seen on Trek (and therefore state that we shouldn't be using them), Trek has always been about exploring strange worlds with strange lifeforms that are subtly different from but similar to our own. The Voth military's choice to use engineered animals as tools can be a lens by which to examine our own human behaviors towards our less-evolved (or just differently-evolved?) mammalian brethren. Also, dinosaurs would have been awesome to see on any Star Trek show, but probably prohibitively expensive to do properly in terms of special effects.
I don't want to go too much in to story detail, both because that'd be spoilers and because I'm not a content designer, but the team here has put a lot of thought and effort into properly characterizing the Voth and making sure it makes sense that players are somewhat in conflict with them. While you do fight the Voth in the Dyson Sphere, they're not straightforward antagonists the same way the Elachi or other similar races were - instead, there's a drastic conflict of interest over what essentially is a natural resource, and that conflict fuels further confrontation between all factions involved.
This may be little comfort to those of you who object strenuously to the inclusion of our mighty fictional terrible lizards, but I hope you at least enjoy the inside view into the development and decision-making process that was behind the creation of the Voth. I'm a little biased, but I think they're *really* fun to play against, so I hope you'll give them a fair shake and try some combat against them when Season 8 arrives!
I still vote General Order 24 on the whole scenario.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
This will be a great update with a lot of cool content. I would like to see stuff like this,
1. Spaceships shaped like your favorite dinosaurs. A Triceratops themed ship with horns mounted on the hull that has a damage boost to "ramming speed".
2. Hanger wings composed of Pterodactyls wearing environmental suits.
3. New ground pets like baby raptors and stegosauruses.
4. Epic boss fights for ground missions, featuring T-Rexes with mounted rockets.
5. Planets with friendly and hostile dinosaur wildlife. It would be better than spraying swarms of insects on New Romulus or killing Dune Worms on Nopada.
6. New science space abilities, like "meteor strike", where a ship launches a meteor at foes. When high yield is active, it becomes a single doomsday meteor with huge damage potential, inspired by the meteor that drove them from earth 65 millions years ago.
7. Dinosaur mounts. The ability to ride a Gallimimus would be cool.
8. Prehistoric mammals should also be included, such as mammoths and the giant sloth. At least as pets.
9. Raptor Voth being the most intelligent of the Voth and occupying the highest positions in the government. The grunt Voth would be the plant eaters.
10. A series of daily rescue missions, where you go to save various lifeforms from extinction. Some of these missions would have you shooting down a multitude of comets and meteors.
Have you no class? Regardless of cigar room nods at ridiculous ideas.. This idea is still awful. People in power make terrible mistakes all the time. This is just another BP oil spill in the making. At least most of the players in the PVP area think its awful.
Can we get a Pegasus too.. with lasers on their heads?
Who cares about PvPers any ways there all just badass wanabes with over sized egos that only talk ****
Until you address me as an adult, I'm not going to argue with you. If you'd like to prove otherwise, you could start with an apology.
Ok... at what point did I stop treating you as an adult? And why do you want to be treated as an adult on the internet? And I never did anything to insult you, so I have no reason to apologize. You were the one who started off with the derogatory comments. I was merely voicing an observation.
Step out of the proverbial canon box? That is your own advice.
Still don't see the correlation.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
And if anyone complains about dinosaurs in Star Trek I believe want to subconsciously limit what's possible in the universe. These Dino Riders are completely plausible in-universe.
Hmm as i read this.. Maybe we have all been trolled and "Frickin" is some sort of word in voth language and the name of their weapons. I wonder what kind of proc "Frickin" lasers have. Since normally lasers are quite oldschool compared to phasers.
Also will we get elite fleet frickin laser dual heavy cannons or will they be restricted to frickin laser beams?
Who cares about PvPers any ways there all just badass wanabes with over sized egos that only talk ****
They'd say the same for PvE only they've been methodically angered at being promised better pvp components and then being sold short every season that's released. You'd know this but you're probably not one to brave the mad genius mechanics that go into pvp to begin with.
Hmm as i read this.. Maybe we have all been trolled and "Frickin" is some sort of word in voth language and the name of their weapons. I wonder what kind of proc "Frickin" lasers have. Since normally lasers are quite oldschool compared to phasers.
Also will we get elite fleet frickin laser dual heavy cannons or will they be restricted to frickin laser beams?
World's your oyster now. I'm not saunchly canon but if they can take the only portrayal of the voth and completely pervert them into dino rider mech warriors then I have little faith just like most have lost theirs already. Up until now mine was patched together with hope that we'd eventually get something of substance going and I thought that after the LoR release that it was starting to shape up. I'm not one to never admit when I'm wrong. I'm so wrong now. Gecko's rogue step out of star trek and into mech warrior and Daniel Stahl's failure of oversight made that possible.
I am not offended by dinosaurs in a Star Trek video game. I will keep an open mind and judge accordingly AFTER I've played content in Season 8.
I'm not either. I just protest this low brow idea about putting lasers on extinct species' faces that got across quality assurance. When the voth were (taken?) from earth or they evolved without leaving any trace of tech on earth I highly doubt they took other dino's with them and said "You know what? Let's just put lasers on their heads because that might be useful."
Same thing with the mech warrior thing. Now everybody's gunna stomp around in mech warrior suits. Thanks a lot Gecko. Real smooth stepping outside of star trek for your selfish whims.
Also the protest dinos with lasers on their heads thread was magically deleted and then routed to this thread where the op actually supports the ridiculous idea.
Looks like my protest thread got under gecko's skin. Thanks a lot for muffling your feedback there fella and yes we no know you don't take feedback very well, now at least. No wonder you got away with copy right infringement and your off-whim ridiculous idea.
Is it the fact we are getting dinosaurs that you're against, or just the fact they have lasers on their heads? If we had non weaponised dino's, would you be ok with that?
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Is it the fact we are getting dinosaurs that you're against, or just the fact they have lasers on their heads? If we had non weaponised dino's, would you be ok with that?
Neither really. I'm not a staunch believer in canon per se. It's just that we only have 1 example of the voth and everything they're doing is completely opposite of that example. The valuable premise of that interaction is that even though they evolve from dino's and seperated over time and space they were more human than first expected.
Even when they have Chakotay detained there is no weapon, no mech armor being used to force them into a court of their sense of justice. Albeit bigoted in ideology they were non violent and the punishment they issue the voyager crew was a mere sentence of isolating them to a work camp. The farthest from a xenophobe race.
The voth could have been an awesome addition if their non violent tech was used within game. Like their incredible transwarp ability. They went from discovering a human carcass way back in the beginning episodes to catching up with the vessel itself after it had traveled so far already. It'd be nice to own a voth ship (a twist from canon and an obvious choice for lock boxing) and enter a transwarp state that may have taken some time to reach a destination but you'd have access to any system/sector you wanted to travel to.
As much as it would have been nice to see the countermeasure and decompiler skills getting some love from the technology they exhibited in that voyager episode. Plenty of room to expand upon.
It does look cool, yes. Secretly I think we all enjoy seeing dinos brought back to life somehow but they could have done it with class.
Instead they turned them into world of war craft style warrior-race with mech warrior suits and dinosaurs with lasers on their head. To me, that's the same as turning the entire voyager series into a mention that it was actually a war ship sent to the delta quadrant to plunder that sector.
Also the protest dinos with lasers on their heads thread was magically deleted and then routed to this thread where the op actually supports the ridiculous idea.
Looks like my protest thread got under gecko's skin. Thanks a lot for muffling your feedback there fella and yes we no know you don't take feedback very well, now at least. No wonder you got away with copy right infringement and your off-whim ridiculous idea.
Gecko does not run the forums that's what Brandon and the mods do...also we don't need 15 different threads on the same subject hech it was merged not deleted.
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And yet you have no comment towards the other points I made in my post. And you have the gall to call me lame? Really? Then what about every other thing I said in my post? Or does it not compute?
What do lightsabres have to do with anything? This isn't star wars... XD.
Edit: I fail to see how the Voth ships resemble any star wars ships other than the Mon Cal cruisers, and even then that's pushing it. I do see the resemblance to some weapons from Halo: Reach, but other than that... nope.
As for the new ships? They did the same thing with the release of the Romulans. They did the same thing with the release of the 2800 arc, the breen, the Hirogen, the Tholians, and so on and so forth. And only NOW you're going to complain?
Or do you just fail to see the actual fun behind what they are doing here?
I see this as Cryptic finally taking a step OUT of the proverbial canon box and actually doing something creative and of their own design. And I see that creativity and actual removal from the sanctified canonical sources to be a good thing. A very good thing that brings actual life into a game, instead of having it revolve around in it's rut. This part is directed at you as well OP.
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I don't know about you, but my motive will be driving them back into frakking extinction. And I'll be doing it with orbital bombardment under the auspices of General Order 24.
ATTN: Cryptic:
Fine line between silly and stupid. This entire proposal falls into the stupid category.
That is all.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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then why that one ship looks almost like a nebulon-b (may the other way round, but shape fits). also u may have a look on episode 1-3, may you see some more similarities.
nope, not now. did it quite sooner. u know, the point when cryptic killed my last belief that there'll ever be honesty about kdf and pvp.
to u it's fun? nice, enjoy. to me it's not. that quite simple.
they gonna release T-REX WITH FRICKING LAZERZZZ ON THEIR HEAD.
yep... i got several probs with that and i won't share now cause u can read about most of them here posted by others.
this game isn't about "walking out of the canon-box". it's about star trek, at least that's what it says in the title.
i guess u like jj trek? i do not, cause it's not star trek
Forums: "STO isn't trek enough!"
Devs: "Okay, here are some Strange New Worlds to explore."
Forums: "But those aren't the right Strange New Worlds! Change it now!"
To the Voth pet haters, I must respectfully disagree. I am looking forward to the new content; regardless of the nerdrage inducing wrongness you think it radiates.
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Its the Star Trek Universe, the possibilities are limitless, if you don't understand that then you really missed the entire concept behind the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0
1. Spaceships shaped like your favorite dinosaurs. A Triceratops themed ship with horns mounted on the hull that has a damage boost to "ramming speed".
2. Hanger wings composed of Pterodactyls wearing environmental suits.
3. New ground pets like baby raptors and stegosauruses.
4. Epic boss fights for ground missions, featuring T-Rexes with mounted rockets.
5. Planets with friendly and hostile dinosaur wildlife. It would be better than spraying swarms of insects on New Romulus or killing Dune Worms on Nopada.
6. New science space abilities, like "meteor strike", where a ship launches a meteor at foes. When high yield is active, it becomes a single doomsday meteor with huge damage potential, inspired by the meteor that drove them from earth 65 millions years ago.
7. Dinosaur mounts. The ability to ride a Gallimimus would be cool.
8. Prehistoric mammals should also be included, such as mammoths and the giant sloth. At least as pets.
9. Raptor Voth being the most intelligent of the Voth and occupying the highest positions in the government. The grunt Voth would be the plant eaters.
10. A series of daily rescue missions, where you go to save various lifeforms from extinction. Some of these missions would have you shooting down a multitude of comets and meteors.
Until you address me as an adult, I'm not going to argue with you. If you'd like to prove otherwise, you could start with an apology.
Step out of the proverbial canon box? That is your own advice.
Who cares about PvPers any ways there all just badass wanabes with over sized egos that only talk ****
Ok... at what point did I stop treating you as an adult? And why do you want to be treated as an adult on the internet? And I never did anything to insult you, so I have no reason to apologize. You were the one who started off with the derogatory comments. I was merely voicing an observation.
Still don't see the correlation.
Hmm as i read this.. Maybe we have all been trolled and "Frickin" is some sort of word in voth language and the name of their weapons. I wonder what kind of proc "Frickin" lasers have. Since normally lasers are quite oldschool compared to phasers.
Also will we get elite fleet frickin laser dual heavy cannons or will they be restricted to frickin laser beams?
What a.. childish thing to say.
They'd say the same for PvE only they've been methodically angered at being promised better pvp components and then being sold short every season that's released. You'd know this but you're probably not one to brave the mad genius mechanics that go into pvp to begin with.
World's your oyster now. I'm not saunchly canon but if they can take the only portrayal of the voth and completely pervert them into dino rider mech warriors then I have little faith just like most have lost theirs already. Up until now mine was patched together with hope that we'd eventually get something of substance going and I thought that after the LoR release that it was starting to shape up. I'm not one to never admit when I'm wrong. I'm so wrong now. Gecko's rogue step out of star trek and into mech warrior and Daniel Stahl's failure of oversight made that possible.
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I'm not either. I just protest this low brow idea about putting lasers on extinct species' faces that got across quality assurance. When the voth were (taken?) from earth or they evolved without leaving any trace of tech on earth I highly doubt they took other dino's with them and said "You know what? Let's just put lasers on their heads because that might be useful."
Same thing with the mech warrior thing. Now everybody's gunna stomp around in mech warrior suits. Thanks a lot Gecko. Real smooth stepping outside of star trek for your selfish whims.
Sharknado anyone? lol
I get a good laugh every time Space Channel airs this movie that shows sharks flying and killing people while airborne because of a tornado...lol
I mean who the hell would actually want to watch that?
Looks like my protest thread got under gecko's skin. Thanks a lot for muffling your feedback there fella and yes we no know you don't take feedback very well, now at least. No wonder you got away with copy right infringement and your off-whim ridiculous idea.
Is it the fact we are getting dinosaurs that you're against, or just the fact they have lasers on their heads? If we had non weaponised dino's, would you be ok with that?
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
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Neither really. I'm not a staunch believer in canon per se. It's just that we only have 1 example of the voth and everything they're doing is completely opposite of that example. The valuable premise of that interaction is that even though they evolve from dino's and seperated over time and space they were more human than first expected.
Even when they have Chakotay detained there is no weapon, no mech armor being used to force them into a court of their sense of justice. Albeit bigoted in ideology they were non violent and the punishment they issue the voyager crew was a mere sentence of isolating them to a work camp. The farthest from a xenophobe race.
The voth could have been an awesome addition if their non violent tech was used within game. Like their incredible transwarp ability. They went from discovering a human carcass way back in the beginning episodes to catching up with the vessel itself after it had traveled so far already. It'd be nice to own a voth ship (a twist from canon and an obvious choice for lock boxing) and enter a transwarp state that may have taken some time to reach a destination but you'd have access to any system/sector you wanted to travel to.
As much as it would have been nice to see the countermeasure and decompiler skills getting some love from the technology they exhibited in that voyager episode. Plenty of room to expand upon.
It does look cool, yes. Secretly I think we all enjoy seeing dinos brought back to life somehow but they could have done it with class.
Instead they turned them into world of war craft style warrior-race with mech warrior suits and dinosaurs with lasers on their head. To me, that's the same as turning the entire voyager series into a mention that it was actually a war ship sent to the delta quadrant to plunder that sector.
Gecko does not run the forums that's what Brandon and the mods do...also we don't need 15 different threads on the same subject hech it was merged not deleted.