Just thinking.
Double neck and everything seem to be roughly the same relations as the Odyssey.
Could it be that this ship could be a Odyssey variant?
(...and share the same ship parts with it?)
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Lol, they actually renamed the Star Cruiser into "sentinel Class" so they can name their new toy "Avenger"...
Why couldn't they just rework the Galaxy and the Star Cruiser to be equal to the Regent Class? Or better release two new up to date ships that can use the parts of their predecessor?
- doing essentially the ABSOLUTELY SAME THING as with the Assault Cruiser -> Regent update? -
Why another Regent Warship-"thing"?
Because STO takes place in the 25th century; not the 24th (or 23rd)? (And yes, get used to it as those of us who still want a T5 Constitution Class vessel have to.):eek::D
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rofl since when you became a spelling teacher ... He a dev he says what he wants rofl ....That's a word btw just said differently I looked it up kind of the same ..its ok Brandon have some fun
He told me it was a mistake on Twitter. And you're one to talk, I barely understood what you said. Grammar and spelling is important for good communication.
Since they bothered to model in a hangar bay I'm guessing it's either a 1 or 2 hangar ship.
Looks to me as a regular shuttle bay. The Galaxy class has 3 of them. 1 huge on the saucer and 2 on the neck. Even the Sovereign class has 2 of them. Huge one on the saucer, and one at the back of the star drive.
However I'm sure it can launch a fighter that you have in your inventory to use.
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this is coming out before the negvar refit, a ship thats been pushed back and delayed about 6 months now. what would be in REALLY good taste is a kdf and fed ship coming out at the same time, both real nice battle cruisers, that would make a lot of sense. but theres no indication thats happening, the kdf ship is at the absolute bottom of the ship priority list :rolleyes:
oh god more arrays on nacelles :rolleyes: this is wrong. you need to stop doing this.
looks very regent like, ive never carried for that things look at all. the monbosh is already the best battlecruiser, this will proboly have trouble competing with it unless its over the top. hope this isnt another shot in the foot like the last warbird. at least its an actual faction ship, and not another alien ship.
this thing can cloak too btw
I rather have the arrays on the nacelle pylons. Where they are usually located on most ships.
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The thing I like the most is that she has her name on opposite sides of the saucer. For some reason it makes me happy that my enemies will know my ship's name while she broadsides them into oblivion.
True on that. All my Federation Cruisers are set up for broadside offense "Beam Boats". So if they make this ship for broadsiding. Then I already have all the gear.
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Because STO takes place in the 25th century; not the 24th (or 23rd)? (And yes, get used to it as those of us who still want a T5 Constitution Class vessel have to.):eek::D
Yeah but a excelsior, ambassador and a galor being tactical superior to a GCS is alright?
Lol, always nice to see people with humor.
True on that. All my Federation Cruisers are set up for broadside offense "Beam Boats". So if they make this ship for broadsiding. Then I already have all the gear.
Maybe the first boradside DHC using ship?
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- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
The Avenger will only be a replacement for the Gal-X if she also comes with a huge gun running through her spine.
That may be true in a direct perspective. But if she can carry DCs or DHCs and has a better Tactical layout with a better turn radius, even without the Lance, people would likely choose her over the G-X, even with the updates they been working on (like the Lance Shotgun).
I hope that this ship will have its ship parts interchangeable with the Odyssey.
Cryptic hopefully won't do the same mistake again and release it without any addtional ship parts (like they did with the Odyssey).
Maybe its not the same design line as the sovereign and Regent but rather similar like the odyssey. If yes i will consider buying it, but if it doesn't come with any alternative parts i certainly wont even consider it.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
Yeah I do hope that it comes with some alternative parts to play with. That's one reason I never picked up the Odyssey, I don't like how it looks and I can't change out any parts on it.
Yeah I do hope that it comes with some alternative parts to play with. That's one reason I never picked up the Odyssey, I don't like how it looks and I can't change out any parts on it.
Same here, in fact I'd be very happy if it is parts-interchangeable with the Assault Cruiser variants. I've taken my (fleet) Sovereign about as far as it can go. I'd love an even more tactical variant.
It looks interesting, but I'm not a big fan of the oversized fins on the nacelles.
From the angle shown, it kinda-sorta looks to me, like the primary hull slides into the secondary hull like a disc into a notch...
Be very cool if that was how its separation took place.
(even if it's not possible to do in-game)
My one big wish is that there be a 'round' primary saucer option, instead of just the oblong one.
I miss that design element in the newer ships.
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cheese with YOUR whine? We FEDs dont actually need ANY new ships for a while, the KDF is a stepchild or "special cousin" and the romulans are low on selection.
Romulans have the best ships in the game.
The KDF selection, while smaller than the Fed selection, is far more effective in terms of DPS.
Fed cruisers meanwhile are vastly inferior to KDF battlecruisers. The one ship that can equip dual heavy cannons, the Gal-X, has a turnrate that makes it a really dumb idea to equip them.
Because Galaxy-class and the Star Cruiser are primarily exploration craft.
funny.
The GCS and the Star Cruiser should get a update appropriate to their specialisation.
Like giving the Star Cruiser a BOFF layout similar to the regents, but instead of ebing tactical focussed it would be science focussed.
The GCS could get a update like this: LINK
Or they should just make it a Engineering counterpart to the Nebula.
@lan451
Same here, i would have bought the Odyssey long ago, if it had some alternative parts.
Even if we could just get some alternative pylons that make the nacelles face forward like the regent, would have been enough for me to buy it.
But its fat Excelsior look is just not my cup of tea.
I really hope that this new ship can use the Odysseys ship parts and vice versa. This would help both ships IMO.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
this is coming out before the negvar refit, a ship thats been pushed back and delayed about 6 months now. what would be in REALLY good taste is a kdf and fed ship coming out at the same time, both real nice battle cruisers, that would make a lot of sense. but theres no indication thats happening, the kdf ship is at the absolute bottom of the ship priority list :rolleyes:
Its actually been 10 months since they mentioned it and no telling how long before it was originally being talked about/designed.
Federation bird of preys will be available before the negh'var refit is in lol.
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Okay... another Fed ship coming out soon, along with their ''Epic'' Voth ships which they use as an excuse to put the new KDF C-Store ship to the selves...
What is this now, like 7th or 8th stright tier 5 Fed ship since the Bortasqu came out 2 years ago.
Okay... another Fed ship coming out soon, along with their ''Epic'' Voth ships which they use as an excuse to put the new KDF C-Store ship to the selves...
What is this now, like 7th or 8th stright tier 5 Fed ship since the Bortasqu came out 2 years ago.
Not a great year to die as a KDF player...
No, been 8 months since the last T5 KDF ship, which is also the last time a Fed ship came out, the Romulans been getting the attention.
WHY DO YOU MAKE US SUFFAARR? (Yes I know, wrong spelling B-) )
They tasks me! They tasks me and I shall have their new C-store ship! I'll chase them 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give that ship up!
I WANT some DETAILS , AND I WANT a RELEASE: A.S.A.P.
PS: Please!
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No, been 8 months since the last T5 KDF ship, which is also the last time a Fed ship came out, the Romulans been getting the attention.
The Kamarang is nice, and a decent balance to the Ambassador. Of course the new battle cloak installed on the KDF equivalents of the Andorian Escort and MMSV 3-packs is so effective it has yet to appear on our sensors... I can't wait to pilot something with that kind of Stealth rating!
Really, though, if it's worth getting I might look into this thing on the Federation end. The Fleet variant is the main one that interests me, but we'll just have to see what it actually does.
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I have a sneaky suspicions the FE and Ship will be released next Thursday...
Mass teases (Dev Blogs on the Sphere Design, 2 Screenshots) usually happen just before a release; I reckon we'll get 2 Dev Blogs about the ship early next week, one on the design and another on the stats and abilities.
It will then release on Thursday as will the FE. Not sure if the Fleet Variant will release straight away not, either way in order for Cryptic to get their money you will need to purchase the normal Avenger to unlock + a ship module or few for the Fleet version.
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Double neck and everything seem to be roughly the same relations as the Odyssey.
Could it be that this ship could be a Odyssey variant?
(...and share the same ship parts with it?)
On what feed?
I can't see anything on STO or Cryptics twitter.
Because STO takes place in the 25th century; not the 24th (or 23rd)?
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He told me it was a mistake on Twitter. And you're one to talk, I barely understood what you said. Grammar and spelling is important for good communication.
Looks to me as a regular shuttle bay. The Galaxy class has 3 of them. 1 huge on the saucer and 2 on the neck. Even the Sovereign class has 2 of them. Huge one on the saucer, and one at the back of the star drive.
However I'm sure it can launch a fighter that you have in your inventory to use.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
this is coming out before the negvar refit, a ship thats been pushed back and delayed about 6 months now. what would be in REALLY good taste is a kdf and fed ship coming out at the same time, both real nice battle cruisers, that would make a lot of sense. but theres no indication thats happening, the kdf ship is at the absolute bottom of the ship priority list :rolleyes:
I rather have the arrays on the nacelle pylons. Where they are usually located on most ships.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
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True on that. All my Federation Cruisers are set up for broadside offense "Beam Boats". So if they make this ship for broadsiding. Then I already have all the gear.
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But yeah, it won't be a 3 pack.
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Lol, always nice to see people with humor.
Maybe the first boradside DHC using ship?
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That may be true in a direct perspective. But if she can carry DCs or DHCs and has a better Tactical layout with a better turn radius, even without the Lance, people would likely choose her over the G-X, even with the updates they been working on (like the Lance Shotgun).
Aha, So it is!
This is both good and bad...
Bad, as i was hoping for 3 cool new gadgets and ships to play with...
Buuuuuuuuut, 2500zen is more realistic on a university budget, So i won't need to starve myself to get this at least!
Cryptic hopefully won't do the same mistake again and release it without any addtional ship parts (like they did with the Odyssey).
Maybe its not the same design line as the sovereign and Regent but rather similar like the odyssey. If yes i will consider buying it, but if it doesn't come with any alternative parts i certainly wont even consider it.
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Same here, in fact I'd be very happy if it is parts-interchangeable with the Assault Cruiser variants. I've taken my (fleet) Sovereign about as far as it can go. I'd love an even more tactical variant.
Makes sense. IMO, the name, Avenger, never did sit well in context with the Vanguard and Emissary variant Star Cruisers. Sentinel is more consistent.
I look forward to viewing the New Avengers.
From the angle shown, it kinda-sorta looks to me, like the primary hull slides into the secondary hull like a disc into a notch...
Be very cool if that was how its separation took place.
(even if it's not possible to do in-game)
My one big wish is that there be a 'round' primary saucer option, instead of just the oblong one.
I miss that design element in the newer ships.
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Brandon, when are klings going to get the c-store negh'var?
The new fed battle cruiser looks like a vesta with majestic nacelles. Meh.
Romulans have the best ships in the game.
The KDF selection, while smaller than the Fed selection, is far more effective in terms of DPS.
Fed cruisers meanwhile are vastly inferior to KDF battlecruisers. The one ship that can equip dual heavy cannons, the Gal-X, has a turnrate that makes it a really dumb idea to equip them.
Because Galaxy-class and the Star Cruiser are primarily exploration craft.
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funny.
The GCS and the Star Cruiser should get a update appropriate to their specialisation.
Like giving the Star Cruiser a BOFF layout similar to the regents, but instead of ebing tactical focussed it would be science focussed.
The GCS could get a update like this: LINK
Or they should just make it a Engineering counterpart to the Nebula.
@lan451
Same here, i would have bought the Odyssey long ago, if it had some alternative parts.
Even if we could just get some alternative pylons that make the nacelles face forward like the regent, would have been enough for me to buy it.
But its fat Excelsior look is just not my cup of tea.
I really hope that this new ship can use the Odysseys ship parts and vice versa. This would help both ships IMO.
Its actually been 10 months since they mentioned it and no telling how long before it was originally being talked about/designed.
Federation bird of preys will be available before the negh'var refit is in lol.
Just out of curiosity, why not just call the new one Sentinel and leave the Avenger as it is? That seems simpler to me. Not complaining, just curious.
The ship looks awesome by the way.
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-Thomas Marrone
What is this now, like 7th or 8th stright tier 5 Fed ship since the Bortasqu came out 2 years ago.
Not a great year to die as a KDF player...
No, been 8 months since the last T5 KDF ship, which is also the last time a Fed ship came out, the Romulans been getting the attention.
WHY DO YOU MAKE US SUFFAARR? (Yes I know, wrong spelling B-) )
They tasks me! They tasks me and I shall have their new C-store ship! I'll chase them 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give that ship up!
I WANT some DETAILS , AND I WANT a RELEASE: A.S.A.P.
PS: Please!
I hope STO get's better ...
The Kamarang is nice, and a decent balance to the Ambassador. Of course the new battle cloak installed on the KDF equivalents of the Andorian Escort and MMSV 3-packs is so effective it has yet to appear on our sensors... I can't wait to pilot something with that kind of Stealth rating!
Really, though, if it's worth getting I might look into this thing on the Federation end. The Fleet variant is the main one that interests me, but we'll just have to see what it actually does.
Mass teases (Dev Blogs on the Sphere Design, 2 Screenshots) usually happen just before a release; I reckon we'll get 2 Dev Blogs about the ship early next week, one on the design and another on the stats and abilities.
It will then release on Thursday as will the FE. Not sure if the Fleet Variant will release straight away not, either way in order for Cryptic to get their money you will need to purchase the normal Avenger to unlock + a ship module or few for the Fleet version.
Anyone care to guess and list its' abilities...?