On another note, there is now a big Zen sale! This makes me believe that the release of the Scimitar bundle is nearing, as they often give sales before big releases.
I know I'm stocking up!
Well they said the stats will be released later in June, which could mean tomorrow all the way to the 30th.
I've got 2500 zen saved up, I'm thinking now would be the time to buy the other 2500 for the pack.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
It would be nice if it was a Zen store ship. It will make it easier to get. Plus last time I looked on the store. There was no Romulan ships in the 2500 range. Where there is some on the Fed and KDF. This ship would make a sweet addition in that price range.
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Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
It would be nice if it was a Zen store ship. It will make it easier to get. Plus last time I looked on the store. There was no Romulan ships in the 2500 range. Where there is some on the Fed and KDF. This ship would make a sweet addition in that price range.
Yeah, the Scimitar will be a three ship pack most likely in the 5,000 zen range.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
I've said it before in threads and in chat, I'll say it again.
If that logic applies, every federation ship in the game with the exception of tiny escorts like the Defiant should have a wing of type-8 shuttles. Having small craft does NOT = carrier. The Romulans' small craft just happens to be the Scorpion fighter.
Might want to rewatch the scene where Picard and Data steal a scorpion.
It's not a bay with a few ships in it, it's a damn flight deck with easily a dozen or more waiting to be launched.
I am disappointed that the Scimitar is (allegedly) being used as the Romulan flagship. IMHO it would have been the perfect Romulan answer to the Galaxy Dread / Garumba. I would rather the Romulan Flagship be a new and original design like the Odyssey / Bortasq. I am also disappointed that we do not have any Reman ships usable in game with the exception of the Scorpion Fighter (stolen by the Romulans). Romulans need their own unique fighters and Remans need their own unique ships.
Make as many futile real world or show canon comparisons as you like. As far as this game is concerned, having 2 hangars with fighters, runabouts or frigates constitutes a carrier.
Not every ship can be a Defiant-esque glass cannon. You get a Carrier. Be happy. It's a tri pack, I am sure you will get something that is "not-carrier like"
Double facepalm at Cryptic, one ship that shouldn't be playable and what do they do, throw it in anyway. PvP is a lost cause in this game for sure. They may as well hit the delete button on PvP and make it a PvE only game.
Not to mention the ship will no doubt be OP, it has to for the fans of the ship to be happy.
Just goes to show if they can make a buck off something, they will take it. Despite cutting off the head of the game for the long term.
I guess I am not surprised. Though making it a carrier when the Odyssey and Bortasqu' aren't (which I assume the Scimitar is to be their counters) is rather silly. But that's why they made the Romulan faction after all isn't it, for the quick buck.
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Double facepalm at Cryptic, one ship that shouldn't be playable and what do they do, throw it in anyway. PvP is a lost cause in this game for sure. They may as well hit the delete button on PvP and make it a PvE only game.
Not to mention the ship will no doubt be OP, it has to for the fans of the ship to be happy.
Just goes to show if they can make a buck off something, they will take it. Despite cutting off the head of the game for the long term.
I guess I am not surprised. Though making it a carrier when the Odyssey and Bortasqu' aren't (which I assume the Scimitar is to be their counters) is rather silly. But that's why they made the Romulan faction after all isn't it, for the quick buck.
Why should it not be playable?
And I personally would not mind if it were a PVE only game. It would save all the Pay to win items from the nasty nerf cries of all the pvp-players.
It can be a carrier-like thing with 1 or 2 hangars. But I'll try to buy it, sounds awesome already!
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
The Romulan Drone ship sounds sweet, though with its multi-spectral imaging... thing, one would assume that this is supposed to be based on the drone vessel you see in Season four of Enterprise? If so cool. If not, c'est la vie
I look forward to trying out the Scimitar but it'd take a lot to make me part with my Khnial Class
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I fail to see why people hate the idea of it being a carrier. It was one. The reason the scimitar in nemesis didnt launch fighters, why would they, they were trying to disable the enterprise not destroy it.
And if its similar to the JHDC itll be awesome, my Jem carrier can tear through stuff like a destoyer AND has pets, dont see why this would be any different.
I expect itll be a 4/3 or 5/2 weapon set up with 6-7 turnrate and romulan battle cloak, with 2 hanger bays, prolly 4/2/4 console layout possibly even a 5 tac console version, mount DHC. With hull and shields similar to the oddy. -40 power theleron core that has a unique fire while cloak for x seconds depending on charge level, part of the 3 pc bonus of consoles etc.
Will be a good ship, and if you cant rock that set up then your doing it wrong. My guess is the multi spectral imaging means the drones will take on other ship appearances similar to photonic fleet.
I fail to see why people hate the idea of it being a carrier. It was one. The reason the scimitar in nemesis didnt launch fighters, why would they, they were trying to disable the enterprise not destroy it.
And if its similar to the JHDC itll be awesome, my Jem carrier can tear through stuff like a destoyer AND has pets, dont see why this would be any different.
I expect itll be a 4/3 or 5/2 weapon set up with 6-7 turnrate and romulan battle cloak, with 2 hanger bays, prolly 4/2/4 console layout possibly even a 5 tac console version, mount DHC. With hull and shields similar to the oddy. -40 power theleron core that has a unique fire while cloak for x seconds depending on charge level, part of the 3 pc bonus of consoles etc.
Will be a good ship, and if you cant rock that set up then your doing it wrong. My guess is the multi spectral imaging means the drones will take on other ship appearances similar to photonic fleet.
told you:
carrier = 3-4 base turn rate
and i don't like cruiser-like ships.
Jem carrier has base of 6, so your wrong about that. and the rest are all 5. No ship ingame has a base turn of 3. Unless your looking at it with engine not throttled, which then all ships show 3 degrees per second.
And I personally would not mind if it were a PVE only game. It would save all the Pay to win items from the nasty nerf cries of all the pvp-players.
It can be a carrier-like thing with 1 or 2 hangars. But I'll try to buy it, sounds awesome already!
Because they can never bring the experience of a god plot ship to this game. No matter what they do with this ship it will be either overpowered, or not truly representing the ship we saw on screen. Better to leave it alone and do what they did with Nero's ship, aka Tal Shair lock box ships. I am not saying they should be in lock boxes either.
As for PvP, there are dozens if not hundreds of fleets in this game dedicated entirely to PvP. Removing PvP because you don't like it would be a huge mistake on Cryptic;s behalf as for many PvP has been the only thing apart from their fleet and community that has kept many players in-game. Now I don't do PvP myself other than the odd friendly challenge/dual, but I am not naive enough to think PvP should not be in this game.
The Scimitar however doesn't fit with the RR profile of trying to get away from the warlike past and having a peaceful society. The Scimitar is a Predator a weapon of war, a whole taskforce in a single ship. It's like allowing players to play as a Tactical Cube, just a bad idea. You watch the outcry when it's stats are released and when it hits the C-store.
It's a bad move all round, another mistake in a long line of Cryptic mistakes, they are just trying to make a quick buck at the expense of the longevity of the game. Sure the game will be around in years to come, but it won't be where it should be. Once the Romulans dry up, the Cardassians or Dominion will be released and we'll get the same circus over and over.
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Still not looking forward to them appearing in Fleet Alerts/STF's and going boom courtesy of players who thought they'd purchased an 'I Win' console with their shiny new Scimitar. It happened with the Odyssey (and still does on occasion), it happened with the Armitage, it happened with the Vesta line - it'll happen with the Scimitar.
New ship or not wont change bad players in STFs. I just did KA elite. 4 guys on 1 side, me alone in my all cannon mogai on the other. I kill both my transformers and cubes, then had to go all the way to the other side and kill one of their cubes for them. Whole time catching my own probes.
4 people on 1 side! And they still let 5 probes through /facepalm. Scimitar wont change any of that bro.
Because they can never bring the experience of a god plot ship to this game. No matter what they do with this ship it will be either overpowered, or not truly representing the ship we saw on screen. Better to leave it alone and do what they did with Nero's ship, aka Tal Shair lock box ships. I am not saying they should be in lock boxes either.
As for PvP, there are dozens if not hundreds of fleets in this game dedicated entirely to PvP. Removing PvP because you don't like it would be a huge mistake on Cryptic;s behalf as for many PvP has been the only thing apart from their fleet and community that has kept many players in-game. Now I don't do PvP myself other than the odd friendly challenge/dual, but I am not naive enough to think PvP should not be in this game.
The Scimitar however doesn't fit with the RR profile of trying to get away from the warlike past and having a peaceful society. The Scimitar is a Predator a weapon of war, a whole taskforce in a single ship. It's like allowing players to play as a Tactical Cube, just a bad idea. You watch the outcry when it's stats are released and when it hits the C-store.
It's a bad move all round, another mistake in a long line of Cryptic mistakes, they are just trying to make a quick buck at the expense of the longevity of the game. Sure the game will be around in years to come, but it won't be where it should be. Once the Romulans dry up, the Cardassians or Dominion will be released and we'll get the same circus over and over.
If no plot ship can be portrayed worth it in game, then galaxy, defiant, sov, intrepid etc need to be removed according to that logic. And the setup i came up with is close to what it was in the movie. Just as the Regant is close to the E.
Double facepalm at Cryptic, one ship that shouldn't be playable and what do they do, throw it in anyway. PvP is a lost cause in this game for sure. They may as well hit the delete button on PvP and make it a PvE only game.
Not to mention the ship will no doubt be OP, it has to for the fans of the ship to be happy.
Just goes to show if they can make a buck off something, they will take it. Despite cutting off the head of the game for the long term.
I guess I am not surprised. Though making it a carrier when the Odyssey and Bortasqu' aren't (which I assume the Scimitar is to be their counters) is rather silly. But that's why they made the Romulan faction after all isn't it, for the quick buck.
First, who cares about PvP, it's dead and it's been dead for a while. This game was never built for PvP, take a look at all this ships and weapons and skills that are obviously more useful than others. In PvP it's all the same old recycled builds over and over again, otherwise you get crushed and griefed by the elitist snobs who make up the small sad group of people who actually play it. PvP is NOT a valid argument for the anything that has to do with this game.
Second, the Vesta had WAY more fans than the Scimitar and it turned out ok even after MUCH longer of a development period.
And lastly, the Devs have already stated that the Scimitar is going to be a Dreadnought, NOT the Flagship for the Romulans. The Bortas and Oddy are flagships and apparently we'll be getting a flagship for the Romulans as well. The Scimitar will be a Dreadnought to match up to the Galaxy-X and the Garumba/Vo'Quv (it's debatable which one is actually the KDF Dreadnought, the NPC Vo'Quv is called a Dreadnought and the Garumba is also referred to a dreadnought occasionally as well).
-Quiiliitiila
EDIT: I came off sounding like a TRIBBLE, I didn't mean to :P PvP in this game riles me up, I apologize for it.
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Well they said the stats will be released later in June, which could mean tomorrow all the way to the 30th.
I've got 2500 zen saved up, I'm thinking now would be the time to buy the other 2500 for the pack.
Yeah I know, but I've seen a trend of Zen sales and then big ship releases. I can hope
I'm totally grabbing 50$ worth of zen, it's a pretty good deal ending up with 6k+ for only the price of 5k. So thus Cryptic wins :P
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Ummm... it will be.
Yeah, the Scimitar will be a three ship pack most likely in the 5,000 zen range.
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
They better not try to increase the standard price here......
5K Zen is the usual price for three packs, with the individual purchased ships being 2500.
ANd they're all named after types of Swords. Clever.
:mad:
What's wrong with that? You have more choice this way.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Unless you want the three console set, then you're out $50 for one ship and two extra consoles.
Might want to rewatch the scene where Picard and Data steal a scorpion.
It's not a bay with a few ships in it, it's a damn flight deck with easily a dozen or more waiting to be launched.
Any ship that holds 1500 fighters is a carrier no matter what you call it.
http://i.imgur.com/jSJ2Frd.jpg
and people actually wanna say it isn't a carrier lol...
it just decoration people.
personally i'm hoping the scimitar is a full flegded carrier.
Not every ship can be a Defiant-esque glass cannon. You get a Carrier. Be happy. It's a tri pack, I am sure you will get something that is "not-carrier like"
carrier = 3-4 base turn rate
and this isn't good: I HATE CRUISER-LIKE SHIPS !
Not to mention the ship will no doubt be OP, it has to for the fans of the ship to be happy.
Just goes to show if they can make a buck off something, they will take it. Despite cutting off the head of the game for the long term.
I guess I am not surprised. Though making it a carrier when the Odyssey and Bortasqu' aren't (which I assume the Scimitar is to be their counters) is rather silly. But that's why they made the Romulan faction after all isn't it, for the quick buck.
Why should it not be playable?
And I personally would not mind if it were a PVE only game. It would save all the Pay to win items from the nasty nerf cries of all the pvp-players.
It can be a carrier-like thing with 1 or 2 hangars. But I'll try to buy it, sounds awesome already!
I look forward to trying out the Scimitar but it'd take a lot to make me part with my Khnial Class
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And if its similar to the JHDC itll be awesome, my Jem carrier can tear through stuff like a destoyer AND has pets, dont see why this would be any different.
I expect itll be a 4/3 or 5/2 weapon set up with 6-7 turnrate and romulan battle cloak, with 2 hanger bays, prolly 4/2/4 console layout possibly even a 5 tac console version, mount DHC. With hull and shields similar to the oddy. -40 power theleron core that has a unique fire while cloak for x seconds depending on charge level, part of the 3 pc bonus of consoles etc.
Will be a good ship, and if you cant rock that set up then your doing it wrong. My guess is the multi spectral imaging means the drones will take on other ship appearances similar to photonic fleet.
told you:
carrier = 3-4 base turn rate
and i don't like cruiser-like ships.
Not every ship can be an escort
Because they can never bring the experience of a god plot ship to this game. No matter what they do with this ship it will be either overpowered, or not truly representing the ship we saw on screen. Better to leave it alone and do what they did with Nero's ship, aka Tal Shair lock box ships. I am not saying they should be in lock boxes either.
As for PvP, there are dozens if not hundreds of fleets in this game dedicated entirely to PvP. Removing PvP because you don't like it would be a huge mistake on Cryptic;s behalf as for many PvP has been the only thing apart from their fleet and community that has kept many players in-game. Now I don't do PvP myself other than the odd friendly challenge/dual, but I am not naive enough to think PvP should not be in this game.
The Scimitar however doesn't fit with the RR profile of trying to get away from the warlike past and having a peaceful society. The Scimitar is a Predator a weapon of war, a whole taskforce in a single ship. It's like allowing players to play as a Tactical Cube, just a bad idea. You watch the outcry when it's stats are released and when it hits the C-store.
It's a bad move all round, another mistake in a long line of Cryptic mistakes, they are just trying to make a quick buck at the expense of the longevity of the game. Sure the game will be around in years to come, but it won't be where it should be. Once the Romulans dry up, the Cardassians or Dominion will be released and we'll get the same circus over and over.
New ship or not wont change bad players in STFs. I just did KA elite. 4 guys on 1 side, me alone in my all cannon mogai on the other. I kill both my transformers and cubes, then had to go all the way to the other side and kill one of their cubes for them. Whole time catching my own probes.
4 people on 1 side! And they still let 5 probes through /facepalm. Scimitar wont change any of that bro.
If no plot ship can be portrayed worth it in game, then galaxy, defiant, sov, intrepid etc need to be removed according to that logic. And the setup i came up with is close to what it was in the movie. Just as the Regant is close to the E.
First, who cares about PvP, it's dead and it's been dead for a while. This game was never built for PvP, take a look at all this ships and weapons and skills that are obviously more useful than others. In PvP it's all the same old recycled builds over and over again, otherwise you get crushed and griefed by the elitist snobs who make up the small sad group of people who actually play it. PvP is NOT a valid argument for the anything that has to do with this game.
Second, the Vesta had WAY more fans than the Scimitar and it turned out ok even after MUCH longer of a development period.
And lastly, the Devs have already stated that the Scimitar is going to be a Dreadnought, NOT the Flagship for the Romulans. The Bortas and Oddy are flagships and apparently we'll be getting a flagship for the Romulans as well. The Scimitar will be a Dreadnought to match up to the Galaxy-X and the Garumba/Vo'Quv (it's debatable which one is actually the KDF Dreadnought, the NPC Vo'Quv is called a Dreadnought and the Garumba is also referred to a dreadnought occasionally as well).
-Quiiliitiila
EDIT: I came off sounding like a TRIBBLE, I didn't mean to :P PvP in this game riles me up, I apologize for it.