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romulan dreadnought pack close to being ready? [It's out! Please use feedback thread]

revan999revan999 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Romulan Discussion
Well I've not seen much talking about it so I shall place this here so people can take a look without needing to jump on the test server to see it.

http://i.imgur.com/roRV9R0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CJCKBdh.jpg

Not much to go on , but it seems what we have been waiting for is soon to come.

Edit:
I knew they would put the advanced drones for people to see at some point.
http://i.imgur.com/Q3L9OV6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EM2pL8mh.jpg
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Thanks, looks like I am right, I have been saying for awhile now the Scimitar will be a 3 pack flagship due to it being the only Dreadnought Romulans have been seen using so far.
    Already got the 5k zen waiting for it.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Cool. Those drone ships look like they'll be fun. :D I hope we get a playable counterpart soon.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,863 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well if the Scimitar is the Dreadnought they speak of, we don't know when it will be released only that the info on the ship should be out sometime in June.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,669 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Neat. Are they in the Dil store too? I'd like to see the specs on the Advanced if so.
  • revan999revan999 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I didn't see any other then in the basic shipyard stores sadly , I would of liked to have seen them aswell.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Why, why does the Scimitar have to be a carrier-type? Now I'm sad...
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    Why, why does the Scimitar have to be a carrier-type? Now I'm sad...

    Maybe because it was in the movie with all those Scorpion Fighters in it fighter bay.
  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ^^^^^ This...
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    Maybe because it was in the movie with all those Scorpion Fighters in it fighter bay.

    I've said it before in threads and in chat, I'll say it again.

    If that logic applies, every federation ship in the game with the exception of tiny escorts like the Defiant should have a wing of type-8 shuttles. Having small craft does NOT = carrier. The Romulans' small craft just happens to be the Scorpion fighter.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    I've said it before in threads and in chat, I'll say it again.

    If that logic applies, every federation ship in the game with the exception of tiny escorts like the Defiant should have a wing of type-8 shuttles. Having small craft does NOT = carrier. The Romulans' small craft just happens to be the Scorpion fighter.

    The difference is the Scimitar was a dedicated carrier with a lot of Fighter craft as seen in its fighter bay. Those Fighters are dedicated for combat and to be launched for combat. Starfleet ships had shuttle bays to carry and launch shuttles and their shuttles are not dedicated to combat but instead other things like transport. Yes they can fight but not meant for that.

    Even the Defiant had its own shuttles from the show.

    Edit: Also Romulans have no Carriers of their own and a Scimitar makes the most sense to be one.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    The difference is the Scimitar was a dedicated carrier with a lot of Fighter craft as seen in its fighter bay. Those Fighters are dedicated for combat and to be launched for combat. Starfleet ships had shuttle bays to carry and launch shuttles and their shuttles are not dedicated to combat but instead other things like transport. Yes they can fight but not meant for that.

    Even the Defiant had its own shuttles from the show.

    Edit: Also Romulans have no Carriers of their own and a Scimitar makes the most sense to be one.

    1. Big ship. Lots of Scorpions.
    2. Yeah, but they could also be used for the purposes other shuttles might be used for.
    3. And yet in game you can use shuttles and runabouts in combat...

    The point of why I'm sad is that with a carrier, it's basically intended to rely on its small craft. If you don't utilize those small craft, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. I wanted a standalone warbird, where I didn't have to worry about fighters and such.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    The difference is the Scimitar was a dedicated carrier with a lot of Fighter craft as seen in its fighter bay. Those Fighters are dedicated for combat and to be launched for combat. Starfleet ships had shuttle bays to carry and launch shuttles and their shuttles are not dedicated to combat but instead other things like transport. Yes they can fight but not meant for that.

    Even the Defiant had its own shuttles from the show.

    Edit: Also Romulans have no Carriers of their own and a Scimitar makes the most sense to be one.

    No a dedicated carrier would have been launching wing after wing of fighters against the Enterprise and the 2 Warbirds it was fighting. The Scimitar never bothered. It is just a Dreadnought with a large shuttlebay.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    1. Big ship. Lots of Scorpions.
    2. Yeah, but they could also be used for the purposes other shuttles might be used for.
    3. And yet in game you can use shuttles and runabouts in combat...

    The point of why I'm sad is that with a carrier, it's basically intended to rely on its small craft. If you don't utilize those small craft, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. I wanted a standalone warbird, where I didn't have to worry about fighters and such.

    I was hoping it wouldn't be a carrier also, and Scorpion wings could have just been its pet console instead of launching a single escort like the Oddy or Bortas.

    With luck maybe 1 or 2 of the ships might not be a carrier. I just want a Romulan version of the Bortasqu, a big 5 tac console cruiser with massive forward firepower and a superweapon console and 2 universal boff stations.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marc8219 wrote: »
    I was hoping it wouldn't be a carrier also, and Scorpion wings could have just been its pet console instead of launching a single escort like the Oddy or Bortas.

    With luck maybe 1 or 2 of the ships might not be a carrier. I just want a Romulan version of the Bortasqu, a big 5 tac console cruiser with massive forward firepower and a superweapon console and 2 universal boff stations.

    Yes, that is the thing about the Bortasqu'. It is a true dreadnought and feels like one. The Odyssey doesn't have fighters, and neither does the Bortasqu'. The Scimitar shouldn't either.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    1. Big ship. Lots of Scorpions.
    2. Yeah, but they could also be used for the purposes other shuttles might be used for.
    3. And yet in game you can use shuttles and runabouts in combat...

    The point of why I'm sad is that with a carrier, it's basically intended to rely on its small craft. If you don't utilize those small craft, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. I wanted a standalone warbird, where I didn't have to worry about fighters and such.

    1: Yes a lot of FIGHTERS

    2: Yep like escaping which Data and Picard did in the movie but still the Fighters are mean to be used for combat that is what a Fighter is combat craft.

    3: I know but it is because they wanted to use a lot of small craft that was already from Star Trek instead of designing a bunch of new small craft.

    Making all ships that have a shuttle bay from the shows and movies launch small craft for combat would well it would just not be good for game play.

    Like I said Romulans don't have any carriers so making the Scimitar be one makes sense.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    1: Yes a lot of FIGHTERS

    2: Yep like escaping which Data and Picard did in the movie but still the Fighters are mean to be used for combat that is what a Fighter is combat craft.

    3: I know but it is because they wanted to use a lot of small craft that was already from Star Trek instead of designing a bunch of new small craft.

    Making all ships that have a shuttle bay from the shows and movies launch small craft for combat would well it would just not be good for game play.

    Like I said Romulans don't have any carriers so making the Scimitar be one makes sense.

    And the Federation did not have any carriers did it, yet they didn't make the Odyssey a carrier simply because it was convenient. But you're still missing the point - the logic of "it has launchable small craft, it HAS to be a carrier" does not work because every ship has launchable small craft.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    And the Federation did not have any carriers did it, yet they didn't make the Odyssey a carrier simply because it was convenient. But you're still missing the point - the logic of "it has launchable small craft, it HAS to be a carrier" does not work because every ship has launchable small craft.

    Yes I agree their is things in the game that makes no sense but having the Scimitar be a carrier just makes to much sense not to be a carrier in the game. It was in the movie and the Romulans need a carrier they have none.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    Yes I agree their is things in the game that makes no sense but having the Scimitar be a carrier just makes to much sense not to be a carrier in the game. It was in the movie and the Romulans need a carrier they have none.

    Tell me where in the movie they stated it was a carrier, without pulling out the "it has small craft it must be a carrier."
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  • revan999revan999 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I understand a minor debate but I would appreciate it if this was not turned into a flame or troll war over what they decided to do with a ship. This was merely to show what I found.

    (Not saying this had turned into a flame war yet but that's what a lot of topics on the forums I see tend to turn into when the word "carrier" pops up.)
  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    Tell me where in the movie they stated it was a carrier, without pulling out the "it has small craft it must be a carrier."

    They did not specifically say it was from what I can remeber but when you have that many Fighters that are dedicated and meant for combat you don't need to be told it is a carrier.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    revan999 wrote: »
    I understand a minor debate but I would appreciate it if this was not turned into a flame or troll war over what they decided to do with a ship. This was merely to show what I found.

    (Not saying this had turned into a flame war yet but that's what a lot of topics on the forums I see tend to turn into when the word "carrier" pops up.)

    Yeah... that or 'PvP'. :)
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,863 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    All of these arguments about the Odyssey and Bortasqu are null and void since the Scimitar won't be the Romulan flagship.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    1. Big ship. Lots of Scorpions.
    2. Yeah, but they could also be used for the purposes other shuttles might be used for.
    3. And yet in game you can use shuttles and runabouts in combat...

    The point of why I'm sad is that with a carrier, it's basically intended to rely on its small craft. If you don't utilize those small craft, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. I wanted a standalone warbird, where I didn't have to worry about fighters and such.

    depends. look at the Jem Hadar Dreadnought Carrier. its got 7 weapon slots and two full carrier bays. even without fighters its still a deadly ship because it is the only full carrier to have more than 6 weapon slots, it has nice hull and shields.


    just because it says "Carrier" in the name, doesnt mean its going to be weak.
  • quiiliitiilaquiiliitiila Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hmmm, I'm a little miffed that the drones have disruptors instead of my beloved plasma :P

    Everything else looks pretty sweet, except for the BaO (Beam Array Overload). With the stock power levels most launchables have, the BaO will KILL the damage output of the drone after it uses it. I'd rather have an attack pattern in there.

    The Multi and Tri-spectral things look pretty cool, but otherwise I see no real upside to them other than the razzle dazzle factor.
  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Just about the drones, I am wondering how they will handle the Multi/Tri-spec whatever as well. Will there be controls for the drones so you can pick the right "ship" for the job, including the right weapon? Or will the drone AI try and pick one for you, or will it jsut randomly shift to some ship?

    Honestly not really surprised that they stuck the drone ship in there. I've been wondering about that since I saw it in the tutorial.
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  • quiiliitiilaquiiliitiila Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    malkarris wrote: »
    Honestly not really surprised that they stuck the drone ship in there. I've been wondering about that since I saw it in the tutorial.

    Tutorial? When was it in there? Guess I missed it :P
  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Its in the space part, when you star rescuing people off the freighters from the Tal Shiar attack, the first ship you meet is a Tal Shiar Drone, and if you get close enough, it looks exactly like the one in Enterprise. I think about four more show up, usually with a warbird commander along, in the next two waves. And then you never see them after that.

    That's what was strange to me, why Cryptic put in all that work for a new ship that is in only ONE mission. Though I also kinda hope that you could put these in a foundry mission.

    I also noticed something, the stats refer to plasma torps, but the discription refers to photon. I'll chalk that up to not release ready.

    And I really hope that they do with this one the same as they did with the other flagships, and put them up on Tribble for testing.
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  • quiiliitiilaquiiliitiila Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    malkarris wrote: »

    I also noticed something, the stats refer to plasma torps, but the discription refers to photon. I'll chalk that up to not release ready.

    And I really hope that they do with this one the same as they did with the other flagships, and put them up on Tribble for testing.

    It also depends on how old the tribble stuff is, they could easily have a completely different set of stuff on their internal build. I DEARLY hope that they release the Scimitar/Falchion/Tulwar Dreadnought Warbirds soon, I'd like to be flying it for the double mark weekend :D
  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm putting my bet on the 20th at the earliest for anything on the current tribble build to be out. There is too much missing stuff at the moment in the current build for them to ship it out. When the dev blogs start to come, then I'll be perking up.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Oh snap. I had the feeling it would be turned into a bloated whale of a carrier, but I was holding out hope that it wouldn't....
    One can only hope that at least one of the three is similar to the Armitage, and only has one fighter bay.

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