Sela will return indoctrinated by the Iconians. We will fight her in various missions until she ultimately reveals her goal is to fuse all life with the Iconians.
We then lecture her on how wrong she is and make her kill herself.
Then, we fight the Iconians. We will be given 3 choices.
- We can destroy the Iconians, but this will also kill the Gorn for no reason.
- We can control the Iconians, and thus become the thing we were fighting against.
- We can fuse all life with the Iconians, which is now suddenly the best option despite how wrong we told Sela it was earlier.
Also no matter what choice you pick, all warp drives in the galaxy explode.
This could work, this would the epic conclusion to the Star Trek Saga.
Sela will return indoctrinated by the Iconians. We will fight her in various missions until she ultimately reveals her goal is to fuse all life with the Iconians.
We then lecture her on how wrong she is and make her kill herself.
Then, we fight the Iconians. We will be given 3 choices.
- We can destroy the Iconians, but this will also kill the Gorn for no reason.
- We can control the Iconians, and thus become the thing we were fighting against.
- We can fuse all life with the Iconians, which is now suddenly the best option despite how wrong we told Sela it was earlier.
Also no matter what choice you pick, all warp drives in the galaxy explode.
omg omg the reapers are coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sela will return indoctrinated by the Iconians. We will fight her in various missions until she ultimately reveals her goal is to fuse all life with the Iconians.
We then lecture her on how wrong she is and make her kill herself.
Then, we fight the Iconians. We will be given 3 choices.
- We can destroy the Iconians, but this will also kill the Gorn for no reason.
- We can control the Iconians, and thus become the thing we were fighting against.
- We can fuse all life with the Iconians, which is now suddenly the best option despite how wrong we told Sela it was earlier.
Also no matter what choice you pick, all warp drives in the galaxy explode.
I assume a Preserver child will be telling us how this was his solution to the chaos the younger races wrought on the galaxy.
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
Sela escaping the Iconians would be like a caveman escaping the FBI.
I doubt its possible.
That is one of the reasons I prefer the rescue idea to Sela escaping. Not sure your analogy is entirely correct, but it is still pretty far fetched to think she could escape on her own. And I prefer the idea that Sela was abducted by the iconians rather then rescued. I just don't know if I like the idea of the Romulans working with the Iconians in any real official capacity.
Plus, I am not sure it makes a lot of sense. We know the Undine are pawns of the Iconians, and they are or are trying to infiltrate the Romulans. Heck we inadvertently help them do it on the Fed side. So why go against a race if you are, even unknowningly, allied with them.
You know my first thought when I was reading about roms coming out, awesome I get to be the bad guy stealthing around making back room deals and stabbing others in the back while watching my own back because bob over there is my best friend but would do the same to me. So I get down farther and find its now a hippy communion where everyone holds hands and sings about peace love and harmony. But hey at least I get to finally be a romulan.
only time The Star Empire has work with any one with out a hidden agenda is when they help the Fed's and the KDF defeat The Dominion
Oh so that little issue with the Romulans constructing a hospital for its wounded on the Bajoran moon, Derna. In addition to the hospital, the Romulans also deploying 7,000 plasma torpedoes on Derna -- all that was a ... cultural misunderstanding , right ?
If Cryptic pulls that off. I mean if that is really the direction they are going. I will laugh hysterically. That would be the biggest mind blowing anyone has ever accomplished.
You may want to know that the Voyager episode "Unimatrix Zero, Part II" actually gives the perfect opening for rationalizing playable Borg .
It also gives the perfect opening to ridiculing every Borg ship that ever existed, having to dumb it down and completely declaw it (even more than the NPCs appear now) in order to preserve the game balance.
If Cryptic pulls that off. I mean if that is really the direction they are going. I will laugh hysterically. That would be the biggest mind blowing anyone has ever accomplished.
It could work something like..
Iconians: "MUAHAHA! We have you, Sela, as our prisoner."
Sela: "The jokes on you. I have contacted my Hirogen allies, and as we speak they have recruited the finest military forces of the delta quadrant to rescue me!"
Kazon: "HUZZAH! We are here to rescue you in exchange for water."
Sela: "... water?"
Hirogen: "It was the only resource we had left after our Alpha lost everything to that cheating Nausicaan at domjot!"
Sela: "Alright but if you have starships why do you need wa.. nevermind, let's get out of here."
Iconians: "Foolish Kazon! You will all die!"
AND THEN SUDDENLY THE BORG ATTACK.
Borg: "We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. You will be assi... EW! KAZON! Do not approach Kazon species! They must not pollute our perfection!!!"
Sela "....!?"
Kazon: "Yeah the Borg don't like us. And they assimilate Talaxians! How stuck up can you be? Honestly."
Sela: "... okay whatever let's just escape while the Borg fight the Iconians."
"if you have a problem , if no one else can help , and if you can find them , maybe you can hire , THE K TEAM"
Your mission Maje, should you choose to accept it, is to rescue the Romualn known as Sela. As always should you be killed or capture, the First Maje will disavow all knowledge of your actions (or tell stories of your ineptitude depending on how large your TRIBBLE up was). This message will convert itself into water in 5 seconds.
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
Your mission Maje, should you choose to accept it, is to rescue the Romualn known as Sela. As always should you be killed or capture, the First Maje will disavow all knowledge of your actions (or tell stories of your ineptitude depending on how large your TRIBBLE up was). This message will convert itself into water in 5 seconds.
No, no it's not. That is a far, far more convoluted explanation than two governments with a common enemy agreeing to exchange X for Y.
How the hell is capturing enemy vessels more convoluted than a exchange that cant even have taken place in the first place.
Romulans had damn warp drive before this imaginary alliance.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Iconians: "MUAHAHA! We have you, Sela, as our prisoner."
Sela: "The jokes on you. I have contacted my Hirogen allies, and as we speak they have recruited the finest military forces of the delta quadrant to rescue me!"
Kazon: "HUZZAH! We are here to rescue you in exchange for water."
Sela: "... water?"
Hirogen: "It was the only resource we had left after our Alpha lost everything to that cheating Nausicaan at domjot!"
Sela: "Alright but if you have starships why do you need wa.. nevermind, let's get out of here."
Iconians: "Foolish Kazon! You will all die!"
AND THEN SUDDENLY THE BORG ATTACK.
Borg: "We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. You will be assi... EW! KAZON! Do not approach Kazon species! They must not pollute our perfection!!!"
Sela "....!?"
Kazon: "Yeah the Borg don't like us. And they assimilate Talaxians! How stuck up can you be? Honestly."
Sela: "... okay whatever let's just escape while the Borg fight the Iconians."
And so Sela is saved.
Icoinans fighting Borg is like the Federation fighting medeival boats on water that fire at them with arrows.
Iconians one shot borg cubes.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
How the hell is capturing enemy vessels more convoluted than a exchange that cant even have taken place in the first place.
Romulans had damn warp drive before this imaginary alliance.
Why couldn't the exchange have taken place? Sure it was never stated on screen that there was an alliance but the production notes in that article I linked you shows that the producers intended for there to be an alliance.
Besides it was never stated that there wasn't an alliance, but the circumstantial evidence supports a Klingon-Romulan Alliance.
EDIT: Found a quote by Worf in the episode "The Neutral Zone"
"(The Romulans) killed my parents in an attack on Khitomer at a time when they were supposed to be our allies."
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
How the hell is capturing enemy vessels more convoluted than a exchange that cant even have taken place in the first place.
Romulans had damn warp drive before this imaginary alliance.
Let's say they did have a warp drive, even though it's explicitly stated that they did not. It's still less convoluted to believe that the Klingon's warp drive was significantly improved over the version the Romulans had, and the Romulans wanted it while the Klingons wanted the cloaking device. Especially since even if one believes they had a warp drive in "Balance of Terror", that warp drive could only be conceived as significantly inferior to the Federation's.
Let's say they did have a warp drive, even though it's explicitly stated that they did not. It's still less convoluted to believe that the Klingon's warp drive was significantly improved over the version the Romulans had, and the Romulans wanted it while the Klingons wanted the cloaking device. Especially since even if one believes they had a warp drive in "Balance of Terror", that warp drive could only be conceived as significantly inferior to the Federation's.
Sounds logical.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Let's say they did have a warp drive, even though it's explicitly stated that they did not. It's still less convoluted to believe that the Klingon's warp drive was significantly improved over the version the Romulans had, and the Romulans wanted it while the Klingons wanted the cloaking device. Especially since even if one believes they had a warp drive in "Balance of Terror", that warp drive could only be conceived as significantly inferior to the Federation's.
The problem is that for some reason he can't seem to believe that the Romulans will work with anyone not a Romulan if it suits either their purpose or their ideals.
Romulans were involved with the plot to sabotage a Federation-Klingon peace (STVI).
Sela worked with the Duras family.
Chairman Koval worked with Section 31.
The Romulans as a whole participated in joint war councils with the the Federation and Klingons during the Dominion War.
Allying yourself doesn't make you a wuss, especially if in the end it suits your purposes and advances your goals.
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
The Romulan /Klingon tech exchange Warp drive for cloaks is HARD CANON
indeed the very hardest
It has been stated publically by Gene himself
Ergo its harder than Rikers pecs
No, sorry. What's on-screen trumps what the creator may or may not have said. "Gene said" or "Lucas said" or whatever is not a valid argument without on-screen support.
Iconians: "MUAHAHA! We have you, Sela, as our prisoner."
Sela: "The jokes on you. I have contacted my Hirogen allies, and as we speak they have recruited the finest military forces of the delta quadrant to rescue me!"
Kazon: "HUZZAH! We are here to rescue you in exchange for water."
Sela: "... water?"
Hirogen: "It was the only resource we had left after our Alpha lost everything to that cheating Nausicaan at domjot!"
Sela: "Alright but if you have starships why do you need wa.. nevermind, let's get out of here."
Iconians: "Foolish Kazon! You will all die!"
AND THEN SUDDENLY THE BORG ATTACK.
Borg: "We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. You will be assi... EW! KAZON! Do not approach Kazon species! They must not pollute our perfection!!!"
Sela "....!?"
Kazon: "Yeah the Borg don't like us. And they assimilate Talaxians! How stuck up can you be? Honestly."
Sela: "... okay whatever let's just escape while the Borg fight the Iconians."
No, sorry. What's on-screen trumps what the creator may or may not have said. "Gene said" or "Lucas said" or whatever is not a valid argument without on-screen support.
No, sorry. What's on-screen trumps what the creator may or may not have said. "Gene said" or "Lucas said" or whatever is not a valid argument without on-screen support.
Okay. From the TNG Episode "The Neutral Zone"
"(The Romulans) killed my parents in an attack on Khitomer at a time when they were supposed to be our allies." Worf.
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
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This could work, this would the epic conclusion to the Star Trek Saga.
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omg omg the reapers are coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
system Lord Baal is dead
I assume a Preserver child will be telling us how this was his solution to the chaos the younger races wrought on the galaxy.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
That explains those Borg husks. But are we not supposed to work for her (Sela) for a while then, until we discover the "real" plot.
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I doubt its possible.
That is one of the reasons I prefer the rescue idea to Sela escaping. Not sure your analogy is entirely correct, but it is still pretty far fetched to think she could escape on her own. And I prefer the idea that Sela was abducted by the iconians rather then rescued. I just don't know if I like the idea of the Romulans working with the Iconians in any real official capacity.
Plus, I am not sure it makes a lot of sense. We know the Undine are pawns of the Iconians, and they are or are trying to infiltrate the Romulans. Heck we inadvertently help them do it on the Fed side. So why go against a race if you are, even unknowningly, allied with them.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Decloak and Destroy!!
Whether or not that's player help or you know - the RSE/Tal Shiar - if that's the route they go, is up to them.
It just allows for the premise that Sela returning doesn't necessarily mean that she has to return in a certain manner.
Until they start posting more - we're just wearing out our keyboards with speculation.
Oh so that little issue with the Romulans constructing a hospital for its wounded on the Bajoran moon, Derna. In addition to the hospital, the Romulans also deploying 7,000 plasma torpedoes on Derna -- all that was a ... cultural misunderstanding , right ?
You may want to know that the Voyager episode "Unimatrix Zero, Part II" actually gives the perfect opening for rationalizing playable Borg .
If Cryptic pulls that off. I mean if that is really the direction they are going. I will laugh hysterically. That would be the biggest mind blowing anyone has ever accomplished.
It also gives the perfect opening to ridiculing every Borg ship that ever existed, having to dumb it down and completely declaw it (even more than the NPCs appear now) in order to preserve the game balance.
It could work something like..
Iconians: "MUAHAHA! We have you, Sela, as our prisoner."
Sela: "The jokes on you. I have contacted my Hirogen allies, and as we speak they have recruited the finest military forces of the delta quadrant to rescue me!"
Kazon: "HUZZAH! We are here to rescue you in exchange for water."
Sela: "... water?"
Hirogen: "It was the only resource we had left after our Alpha lost everything to that cheating Nausicaan at domjot!"
Sela: "Alright but if you have starships why do you need wa.. nevermind, let's get out of here."
Iconians: "Foolish Kazon! You will all die!"
AND THEN SUDDENLY THE BORG ATTACK.
Borg: "We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. You will be assi... EW! KAZON! Do not approach Kazon species! They must not pollute our perfection!!!"
Sela "....!?"
Kazon: "Yeah the Borg don't like us. And they assimilate Talaxians! How stuck up can you be? Honestly."
Sela: "... okay whatever let's just escape while the Borg fight the Iconians."
And so Sela is saved.
Your mission Maje, should you choose to accept it, is to rescue the Romualn known as Sela. As always should you be killed or capture, the First Maje will disavow all knowledge of your actions (or tell stories of your ineptitude depending on how large your TRIBBLE up was). This message will convert itself into water in 5 seconds.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
But after 2009, it's pretty obvious how important water is to space travel!
No, no it's not. That is a far, far more convoluted explanation than two governments with a common enemy agreeing to exchange X for Y.
How the hell is capturing enemy vessels more convoluted than a exchange that cant even have taken place in the first place.
Romulans had damn warp drive before this imaginary alliance.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Icoinans fighting Borg is like the Federation fighting medeival boats on water that fire at them with arrows.
Iconians one shot borg cubes.
Everybody one shots Borg cubes when lazy writers want to make their new aliens badass.
The Borg are the species wide equivalent of the Worf effect.
Why couldn't the exchange have taken place? Sure it was never stated on screen that there was an alliance but the production notes in that article I linked you shows that the producers intended for there to be an alliance.
Besides it was never stated that there wasn't an alliance, but the circumstantial evidence supports a Klingon-Romulan Alliance.
EDIT: Found a quote by Worf in the episode "The Neutral Zone"
"(The Romulans) killed my parents in an attack on Khitomer at a time when they were supposed to be our allies."
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
Let's say they did have a warp drive, even though it's explicitly stated that they did not. It's still less convoluted to believe that the Klingon's warp drive was significantly improved over the version the Romulans had, and the Romulans wanted it while the Klingons wanted the cloaking device. Especially since even if one believes they had a warp drive in "Balance of Terror", that warp drive could only be conceived as significantly inferior to the Federation's.
Sounds logical.
The problem is that for some reason he can't seem to believe that the Romulans will work with anyone not a Romulan if it suits either their purpose or their ideals.
Romulans were involved with the plot to sabotage a Federation-Klingon peace (STVI).
Sela worked with the Duras family.
Chairman Koval worked with Section 31.
The Romulans as a whole participated in joint war councils with the the Federation and Klingons during the Dominion War.
Allying yourself doesn't make you a wuss, especially if in the end it suits your purposes and advances your goals.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
indeed the very hardest
It has been stated publically by Gene himself
Ergo its harder than Rikers pecs
No, sorry. What's on-screen trumps what the creator may or may not have said. "Gene said" or "Lucas said" or whatever is not a valid argument without on-screen support.
My character Tsin'xing
Then you have no concept of canon at all
but you want Evidence ??
D7 battle cruisers
Dozens and Dozens of them
Okay. From the TNG Episode "The Neutral Zone"
"(The Romulans) killed my parents in an attack on Khitomer at a time when they were supposed to be our allies." Worf.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind