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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    genericola wrote: »
    I think I've seen a futurama episode where one of the 'scary door' gags had that happen.

    It was the Twilight Zone, I'm sure.
    The Scary Door gag was a condensed version of several Twilight Zone and Outer Limits episodes including the Hitler wish, the casino where you always win and the gremlin on the plane.
  • genericolagenericola Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    It was the Twilight Zone, I'm sure.
    The Scary Door gag was a condensed version of several Twilight Zone and Outer Limits episodes including the Hitler wish, the casino where you always win and the gremlin on the plane.

    yeah, I think I remember something about a plane in it
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    The existence of this alliance has never been explicitly stated

    The whole article is based on supposition.
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  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    The whole article is based on supposition.

    Did you read the article?

    From the page:

    The Making of Star Trek (finished during the early part of the third season of TOS) does say, however, that the intention at the time was to have the Klingons and Romulans form an alliance against the Federation. The only real indication in any series that an alliance was ever in effect is in "Reunion", where Riker says in response to a suggestion that the Klingons and Romulans were working together: "A new Klingon alliance with the Romulans?" By saying "new" it implies that there had been an "old" one at some point.
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
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    Star Trek: The Next Grind
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  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    "I wish I was world famous!"

    "Your wish is granted. You are now Hitler. Don't complain, you are world famous."


    Does this count as an example of Godwin's Law :D
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
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    Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I don't care what initials are in front of the name of my warbird as long as I get to:

    Beam down to a Federation science station and murder its entire crew so I can loot all of the scientific information and gear. :cool:

    Beam down to a Klingon planet and wipe the existence of a Klingon community completely off the surface of the planet. :cool:

    Oh, and if by chance I get to destroy a few gazillion Federation and Klingon ships, that would be just icing on the cake. :D
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    The only real indication in any series that an alliance was ever in effect is in "Reunion", where Riker says in response to a suggestion that the Klingons and Romulans were working together: "A new Klingon alliance with the Romulans?" By saying "new" it implies that there had been an "old" one at some point.

    Yeah that is no proof of an alliance.

    Also from TNG '"Was that before the Klingons joined the Federation"' - Wesley to Picard.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,331 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    I don't care what initials are in front of the name of my warbird as long as I get to:

    Beam down to a Federation science station and murder its entire crew so I can loot all of the scientific information and gear. :cool:

    Beam down to a Klingon planet and wipe the existence of a Klingon community completely off the surface of the planet. :cool:

    Oh, and if by chance I get to destroy a few gazillion Federation and Klingon ships, that would be just icing on the cake. :D

    I get the feeling that none of these will be possible.
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    Yeah that is no proof of an alliance.

    Also from TNG '"Was that before the Klingons joined the Federation"' - Wesley to Picard.

    That's actually a retcon; in very early TNG you'd sometimes see Klingons with a dual Klingon Empire and UFP insignia in the background, indicating something more than an alliance.
    This was because Gene was adamant that the Klingons would never, ever, ever be the antagonists again and therefore they would join the Federation.
    As he lost power over the show this was completely done away with, of course.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    westx211 wrote: »
    I get the feeling that none of these will be possible.

    To be honest though, um - those are along the lines of things you do as a Fed or KDF already.

    It's not exploration Star Trek...it's bang, bang, shoot 'em up Star Trek.

    Outside of some patrols/etc, we're usually just beaming down to kill somebody.
  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    That's actually a retcon; in very early TNG you'd sometimes see Klingons with a dual Klingon Empire and UFP insignia in the background, indicating something more than an alliance.
    This was because Gene was adamant that the Klingons would never, ever, ever be the antagonists again and therefore they would join the Federation.
    As he lost power over the show this was completely done away with, of course.

    I remember that episode. It was with those three rogue Klingons loose onboard the Enterprise, and the Klingon Commander that Picard was talking to had the Klingon Empire's emblem hung next to the Federation Emblem behind him.
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
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    Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Considering that we know nothing about the Romulan agenda at present, it is a bit premature to say that they have "lost" their spark.

    It is reasonable, however, to conclude that whatever happens, it's going to suck.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Real Romulans? Facepalm.

    So you're not a Romulan if you are of that species? That makes no sense.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I remember that episode. It was with those three rogue Klingons loose onboard the Enterprise, and the Klingon Commander that Picard was talking to had the Klingon Empire's emblem hung next to the Federation Emblem behind him.
    Yeah it was a strange episode for multiple reasons. It had a TALARIAN freighter in it! In some ways it reminds me of the zaniness of TOS.
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Is anyone else a bit miffed that you cannot play the romulans as actual romulans? From the reveal it seems to point to the whole reunification and becoming all nice and friendly.

    I wanted to see the scheming backstabbing evil side. The rebuilding of the empire and going against the lesser races of the federation and klingons.

    Seriously the romulan race is xenophobic to the core. The level of propaganda that was distributed over countless years does not rub off overnight. Couple that with the Hobus event still being pretty raw. I honestly think that the romulans we are currently helping would be a small splinter group, nothing more.

    The main romulan faction would be the military/tal shiar controlled one.

    Come cryptic, let us be the bad guys that the romulans were meant to be.

    LOL. Have they lost their spark already?

    They haven't EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET!!!!!

    And they have "ALREADY" lost their spark.

    Maybe the developers should stop now with creating Romulan content and move on to something more interesting and more sparkly?

    Or maybe we can wait until May 20 and play the content before we get jaded and it doesn't look so sparkly.

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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    While the whole "Romulan Republic" thing has me worried, as does the Screen with the Ship designation being RRW and not IRW, I do not think that this is D'Tan's group.

    For one, while I don't know about in-game, everywhere else D'Tan's group calls themselves the "New Romulan Empire". I don't see them changing the name just do a faction.

    That said, Since the Tal Shiar is corrupt and possibly plotting with the enemies of the empire, I can see us not being aligned with them either.

    My ideal situation, Sela returns. She realized the Tal Shiar in part or whole are not following her rules and working for their own purposes. She can not trust them. So she uses the chaos left from her abduction (and yes, in my ideal situation, she was abducted) to rally a splinter group loyal to her as a "underground rogue" group to eliminate the current Tal Shiar and other Political enemies, in secret. This is the "Romulan Republic". That would be awesome.

    That said, I am going to go with the saner group and wait until we get more official information before I condemn the Romulan Republic as "Not real Romulans"
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    While the whole "Romulan Republic" thing has me worried, as does the Screen with the Ship designation being RRW and not IRW, I do not think that this is D'Tan's group.

    For one, while I don't know about in-game, everywhere else D'Tan's group calls themselves the "New Romulan Empire". I don't see them changing the name just do a faction.

    That said, Since the Tal Shiar is corrupt and possibly plotting with the enemies of the empire, I can see us not being aligned with them either.

    My ideal situation, Sela returns. She realized the Tal Shiar in part or whole are not following her rules and working for their own purposes. She can not trust them. So she uses the chaos left from her abduction (and yes, in my ideal situation, she was abducted) to rally a splinter group loyal to her as a "underground rogue" group to eliminate the current Tal Shiar and other Political enemies, in secret. This is the "Romulan Republic". That would be awesome.

    That said, I am going to go with the saner group and wait until we get more official information before I condemn the Romulan Republic as "Not real Romulans"
    Hear, Hear!

    That was what I was thinking too.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sela returns, but...

    Does Sela escape?
    Does Sela return?
  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Whatever happens, I for one will create a Romulan. I will play this Romulan through the stories. I shall enjoy it. I will reserve all judgement until then.


    Mind you, I've got a Klingon I haven't done the story missions with yet. I may get a start on him before the Romulans come a calling.
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sela returns, but...

    Does Sela escape?
    Does Sela return?

    Star Trek Online: Return of Sela Returns - Escape of Sela - The Return.
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  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    grylak wrote: »
    Whatever happens, I for one will create a Romulan. I will play this Romulan through the stories. I shall enjoy it. I will reserve all judgement until then.
    .


    What is this "waiting to see something before judging it" sorcery you speak of?

    We won't have your foul, blasphemous ways on this forum!!!!
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What is this "waiting to see something before judging it" sorcery you speak of?

    We won't have your foul, blasphemous ways on this forum!!!!
    Agreed. It's only March and the Romulans are already a faction with no spark. By May? They'll be worse off than the KDF. It's time to pack it in. Might as well just go to the C-Store and buy a Vesta 3-pack or a Catian carrier and continue with the federation. It's the only thing Cryptic seems to care about, amirite?
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  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Agreed. It's only March and the Romulans are already a faction with no spark. By May? They'll be worse off than the KDF. It's time to pack it in. Might as well just go to the C-Store and buy a Vesta 3-pack or a Catian carrier and continue with the federation. It's the only thing Cryptic seems to care about, amirite?

    Sometimes I think you are the only other sane person on this forum.


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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sela returns, but...

    Does Sela escape?
    Does Sela return?

    Until Cryptic tells me otherwise, I am going with Escape.

    Unless the Tutorial mission has us rescue Sela from the Iconians and as a result are appointed as one of her loyal hitm.... I mean "Soldiers". That would also be interesting.
  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sometimes I think you are the only other sane person on this forum.

    Then go back a read post 168. There is another sane person here.:P

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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tancrediiv wrote: »
    Then go back a read post 168. There is another sane person here.:P

    Count me in. Complaining about things no one knows right now is dumb. Let?s wait for actual reasons to do so.... :D
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    qjunior wrote: »
    Count me in. Complaining about things no one knows right now is dumb. Let?s wait for actual reasons to do so.... :D
    The Forums would get sooooo boring between now and May. We'd be left with like three things to talk about:

    1- Nerf cannons, buff beams
    2- Nerf Escorts, buff Cruisers
    3- T5 Connie.

    ;)
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Forums would get sooooo boring between now and May. We'd be left with like three things to talk about:

    1- Nerf cannons, buff beams
    2- Nerf Escorts, buff Cruisers
    3- T5 Connie.

    ;)

    I just posted a new and original idea:

    Lets nerf anyone who posts a nerf X thread allowing them use of only MK I common gear.


    Should fix the problem.

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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Until Cryptic tells me otherwise, I am going with Escape.

    Unless the Tutorial mission has us rescue Sela from the Iconians and as a result are appointed as one of her loyal hitm.... I mean "Soldiers". That would also be interesting.

    Sela will return indoctrinated by the Iconians. We will fight her in various missions until she ultimately reveals her goal is to fuse all life with the Iconians.
    We then lecture her on how wrong she is and make her kill herself.

    Then, we fight the Iconians. We will be given 3 choices.
    - We can destroy the Iconians, but this will also kill the Gorn for no reason.
    - We can control the Iconians, and thus become the thing we were fighting against.
    - We can fuse all life with the Iconians, which is now suddenly the best option despite how wrong we told Sela it was earlier.

    Also no matter what choice you pick, all warp drives in the galaxy explode.
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