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  • captainmorgan210captainmorgan210 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2012
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Threat control needs to be a toggle skill to accomodate piloting more ships without constant respecs.

    Toggled one way, you get increased threat and durability. Toggled the other way, you get increased damage (or maybe weapon haste or an added weapon proc) and reduced threat. The toggle should be on a 60 second cooldown.

    How MUCH would be based on your skill investment.

    There's a real problem with encouraging people to spec into tanking if it runs contrary to playing different ships, though.
  • one8voiceone8voice Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Way to go cryptic. the Borg Set is now once again useless. the console connects to some other BS while the set we have now is just dumb. The Borg Regen shield is one of the most useless shields in the game and now you're basically FORCING people to use it.

    Guess its almost time for me to go back to WOW.. This is why I waited to pay.. I mean wtf? Get someone to like something then take it away? Wow never did that to us.. So.. :mad:
  • seekerkorhilseekerkorhil Member Posts: 472
    edited October 2012
    Toggled the other way, you get increased damage (or maybe weapon haste or an added weapon proc) and reduced threat.

    Please refrain from making suggestions that make power creep even more of an issue than it already its.

    Hypothetically speaking this change would just be a straight up damage and survivability buff to escorts. 2 things they already have too much of.
  • captainmorgan210captainmorgan210 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    If cruisers are the problem, deal with them. Don't kill one of the biggest ways escort captains have of surviving in pick-up games with useless team members. You cannot rely on it, so if your answer is "depend on team healing," you have no answer at all.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Please refrain from making suggestions that make power creep even more of an issue than it already its.

    Hypothetically speaking this change would just be a straight up damage and survivability buff to escorts. 2 things they already have too much of.

    Well, you can focus on a wider damage gap between tank and DPS and then go the enrage timer route with boss design.
  • captainmorgan210captainmorgan210 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    hanover2 wrote: »
    If cruisers are the problem, deal with them. Don't kill one of the biggest ways escort captains have of surviving in pick-up games with useless team members. You cannot rely on it, so if your answer is "depend on team healing," you have no answer at all.
    I fly an Advanced Escort. I use the complete mk XII MACO set; the only thing from the Borg set on my build is the console. I can tank like a boss in elite STFs. Believe me, the 3-piece Borg/MACO shield combo is not the only way for an escort to survive.
  • zekesulastinzekesulastin Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Because elite STFs are truly indicative of the sort of balance considerations one must take when working out tank and dps numbers.
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  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I fly an Advanced Escort. I use the complete mk XII MACO set; the only thing from the Borg set on my build is the console. I can tank like a boss in elite STFs. Believe me, the 3-piece Borg/MACO shield combo is not the only way for an escort to survive.

    Do you fly the TAC or the SCI version.
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    just reached teir 1 on tribble and when i saw what dilithium they wanted for each mk x borg set items each i was like WTF , 20000 for the shields etc and another 15000 for the console i shut the game down lol
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So, the moral of the story is: Grab all the endgame STF gear you can now, because the next equivalent will not be worth the horrendous grind.
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    indeed but put it on your ships and not in the bank , but what gets me is the fact atm each item costs 5 edc's apart from the console . so why have they made it so much more expensive/harder to get these items ? , 20000 dilithium and 250 omega marks as well as other stuff for items that cost 5 datachips what idiot is going to get mk x stuff at those prices ? . i dont think i will last in sto till my subs run out mid december , i knew people were complaining about the maco stuff etc but the borg stuff is way over priced
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  • gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    if that's mk x what is mk xi?
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    proberly double but what do i know , i had such high hopes for season 7 :(
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  • gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    well that is depressing
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  • captainmorgan210captainmorgan210 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    bridgern wrote: »
    Do you fly the TAC or the SCI version.
    It's the standard Advanced Escort you can get when first reach Rear Admiral, not the C-store MVAM one.
  • shandypandyshandypandy Member Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    My thoughts:

    A) I haven't run 3 Borg in ages, the shield heal I didn't find happened often enough to compensate for the worse stats compared to running maco xii deflector.

    B) I've been running maco deflector and shields with omega engines for a week or so, and yes: I pop a fair bit more. Doesn't seem horrific though.

    C) people saying 2 piece maco bonus is useless are wrong, at least on fed escorts running cannons. Try fitting polarized disrupto dhc's and turrets, and watch the procs keep coming. Especially with cannon rapid fire.

    D) the 125 power hard cap is gone? When did this happen? <runs home to reset his custom power profiles>
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i never use the borg set apart from console KHG all the way baby
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  • johnnewmantsjohnnewmants Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think the changes are great at all and I'll w8 until I can get the Borg Shields MK XII and I'll have a look at their capacity. If they are ~7,5k it is a great improvement for me because such a high regeneration in addition with relative high shield capacity will get my fleet long range to be really good at shield stats.
  • tebsutebsu Member Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    insert general "i hate this change, too" post.
    What ? Calaway.
  • superiorterransuperiorterran Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It's pathetic how Cryptic has time to take away all that's good in the game, but can't seem to get their heads out of their backsides to fix the actual technical problems plaguing my game play experience. It's frustrating and wrong to have to worry about being disconnected in the middle of a mission because Cryptic is too cheap to work on the crappy servers.
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