I do. The thought of being yelled at for being a 'stupid pug n00b' or whatever for not getting everything precisely right every time at the Elite levels has sufficiently discouraged me from engaging at such. A few other things about Elite levels don't really inspire my confidence either.
Truth be told I'm pretty happy with the MACO Mk XI gear - so far as I can tell it's only slightly inferior to the Mk XII stuff, so I'm not missing out on much other than stress.
That said, while I do spend a good amount of time in-game I seem to complete game stuff a lot slower than must. What do you folks DO to make things go so fast? Is it actually fun rushing through everything like that?
The vast majority of PvE in this game is just a DPS race.
I'd just put people who are abusive on ignore and play at the difficulty I'd like. If they can't bother to be constructive in a civil manner it's on them, you shouldn't change what you want to do.
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Whine whine whine. We no longer have to deal with zombie cruisers and invulnerable escorts so I'd say well done Cryptic!
No one is stopping you from running a mix of omega and maco sets. Its not as regen-y or impenetrable as 3borg+maco shield... which is the point!
Science nerf? Seriously? Aren't you guys specced into torpedo boats and shield stripping? Smack a R62 into your eng slot and boost a BEAM weapon. And for those who have tetryons, and R62 console, eat your heart out, you little gimmick in an ENG slot just boosted all your weapons!
I'm more interested in what the hell is a kinetic cutting beam? And lol plasma torpedo. That's 2 sets that boost those.
I'm eager to go test this in game!
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Whine whine whine. We no longer have to deal with zombie cruisers and invulnerable escorts so I'd say well done Cryptic!
No one is stopping you from running a mix of omega and maco sets. Its not as regen-y or impenetrable as 3borg+maco shield... which is the point!
What about the people that did not run 3-Borg + Maco?
What about the folks that ran 2-Borg + 2-some other set? Perhaps they ran three of those 2+2 toons? Perhaps now they're looking at completely rerolling the toons?
What about the people that did not run 3-Borg + Maco?
What about the folks that ran 2-Borg + 2-some other set? Perhaps they ran three of those 2+2 toons? Perhaps now they're looking at completely rerolling the toons?
Perhaps they might complain?
Perhaps?
Run your prefered 2-set + maco shield. That's how I'd adapt. With the plasma torp in the weapons group, I'd try:
What about the people that did not run 3-Borg + Maco?
What about the folks that ran 2-Borg + 2-some other set? Perhaps they ran three of those 2+2 toons? Perhaps now they're looking at completely rerolling the toons?
Perhaps they might complain?
Perhaps?
LOL, rerolling for a small gear change. If you need to do that your build is rather weak. But trust me it will have very little consequence if you don't respec because a good build is a good build, whatever gear you're using.
Hey, I appreciate the reply - and - it's my fault for not stating that I was coming from a PvP PoV - but yeah, on the PvE side I can see much better ways to adapt. Way different story from that angle, imo.
I'll lose the fluff aspect I had - will have to see if that matters enough or if I can't find some other fluff or if that's it. I'm not a major source of income for PWE by any means, so it's not a threat sort of thing in the least.
LOL, rerolling for a small gear change. If you need to do that your build is rather weak. But trust me it will have very little consequence if you don't respec because a good build is a good build, whatever gear you're using.
Um, going from a 2+2 set where the toon's been completely built around those two sets on a particular ship - yeah, that is going to require a reroll.
edit: I suppose it seems silly to do a reroll over the loss of a 1% proc. The thing is - the toons are not built to take advantage of the 3-set bonuses from the main set. The individual part of the set that would be replaced to get that 3-set would also be the wrong part given the character's build. The BOFFs, DOFFs, skill points, the ship, etc, etc, etc - was built around concepts involving those 2+2 sets. Like I said in the other post though, it's just fluff - fun - I'll either find something else or I won't.
edit2: Perhaps it was that wtf kneejerk reaction - but in looking at two of the three in question, tbh - I'm fine just keeping them as they are - I like flying them. I actually see an opportunity for the third that did not exist previously that I'll do a reroll to include the wep/con set.
edit3: Who knows? I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and do something when I have to do something...
I agree there needed to be a change, but I disagree that you needed to remove the console. The fixes suggest by the community about adding consoles and other things to existing sets so more variety would of been way more welcome. Most of my escorts fly 2 borg and 2 omega, most of my sci fly 3 borg with omega shields and my engi fly 2 borg and 2 maco. Congrats, you just screwed over 9 Federation characters that I have spend HOURS on grinding MK XII Omega and MACO gear on.
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so will the full borg set also include some specific buff where certain weapons are concerned? like enhancing disruptor or plasma weapons, for example? that would be cool
I'd rather have that then some useless green tractor beam ahha
1%?! they might as well say, here's a lottery ticket, but you can't have the money.
it should be much higher than that. 8% at the least.
You're not good at maths are you?
It's going to happen every 2 minutes or so and it lasts 21s. 21s is a huge amount of time in the game, it can make a difference. Acutally it will proc fairly often and will give you a huge buff, considering the fact that no other proc I know lasts such an amount of time.
It's going to happen every 2 minutes or so and it lasts 21s. 21s is a huge amount of time in the game, it can make a difference. Acutally it will proc fairly often and will give you a huge buff, considering the fact that no other proc I know lasts such an amount of time.
If you already run 125 power in weapons, do you still get the benefit? Cant remember if we did or not...
If you already run 125 power in weapons, do you still get the benefit? Cant remember if we did or not...
Yes, especially if you have 6 to 8 weapons to fire. The first one will fire at 125 but the next one could fire at 120, then 110, etc. You can't have enough power to your weapons.
ANY bait and switch practices are considered FRAUD.
If you achieve something in game that item should remain untouchable by the devs for the life of the game.
Of course that would be considered FAIR business practices, something I've yet to see this company demonstrate.
Its not really fraud...not to mention MMO's change stuff all the time.
I'm worried the old set is just gonna be replaced by the new set...that 3 part bonus could be very powerful depending on how much of a damage reduction it gives.
Imagine getting CRFed by a Escort...that defense is pretty much gonna be running till CRF runs out. Honestly...I'm worried that everyone will just run around with the new borg 3 piece set...2 piece of old borg...and a khg or maco shield.
Basically could be going from the frying pan into the fire.
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Well i dont understand why they switched the borg set up and not say anything but it seems the practice. Well it wont be a big deal for me i use 4x MK XII neutrouninm purples for tanking
and only the borg console and the tachyokanetic for crits on my Jemmy bug with a full MACO XII set. Have no problems with PvP or PvE. But i am interested in what all 6 set of borg will look like.
Currently the 3-piece Borg set (Deflector/Engines/Console) gives two powerful healing procs (hull + shields).
When season 7 hits, the Borg Console becomes part of another set - it keeps its properties but in order to get the shield proc (and the tractor beam) you'll need to run Deflector/Engines/Shield.
The capabilities of the Console set (which includes a Borg 'Cutting Beam') are currently unknown.
As to what you should run - whatever works for you. I run full MACO Mk XII on my Excelsior and haven't used the Borg stuff in a long time.
Yes, especially if you have 6 to 8 weapons to fire. The first one will fire at 125 but the next one could fire at 120, then 110, etc. You can't have enough power to your weapons.
Ok cool, I thought that there was a hard cap @125, but since learned it was removed.
I run a tac oddy(the ORCA)with my engineer, Brody. I've been running 2 piece borg, the console and engines, and 2 piece maco mark12 deflector and shield. The other nite I scored the maco mk12 engine. I ran elite STF's(all of them) just fine.
I pvp a lot too. I have some amazing tac/escort players in my fleet. I can tell you the little hit to self healing for escorts is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of points of healing they receive from designated healers. A second or two of prolonging life is important, but this move by cryptic will make better healers shine even more in pvp.
This future change (not yet definitive - it's still being worked on) doesn't really make me happy.
I rarely used the Borg 3-part set (the shield heal never impressed me, was almost allways negligeable in my parses). That allowed me to choose any 2-part set I wanted to use along the (needed - in my eyes, since largest heal excluding SDO doffs) 2-part Borg set.
After that change, I will only be able to get 1 set bonus (because any full existing set would be very underwhelming to me). And that bonus will have to be "Autonomous regeneration sequencer", given its necessity. So my only options now are to choose the shield to go with the Borg deflector and engine. Not a whole lot of variety.
Note: I'm talking from an STF playing PVEer standpoint.
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doesn't bother me a bit, rather like the change. the cookie cutter builds and build advice will get a change up. never bothered to use 3pc, rarely even 2pc (+5aux and some other stats from the borg deflector are nice to have). instead built around systems and boff skills that would give survivability. required more thought than just 'maco/khg shields 3pc borg is ta uberness' but as it stands now or will...was worth it.
mayhap i'll see a few people who relied on it so heavily and didn't bother with any defensive skills at all actually blow up less once they adjust.
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I agree with the changes, excellent idea, I have no problem suriving elites with 3pc MACO/Omega/Honor Guard. Hopefully others will soon learn that they can too. Its not the end of the world.
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The vast majority of PvE in this game is just a DPS race.
I'd just put people who are abusive on ignore and play at the difficulty I'd like. If they can't bother to be constructive in a civil manner it's on them, you shouldn't change what you want to do.
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No one is stopping you from running a mix of omega and maco sets. Its not as regen-y or impenetrable as 3borg+maco shield... which is the point!
Science nerf? Seriously? Aren't you guys specced into torpedo boats and shield stripping? Smack a R62 into your eng slot and boost a BEAM weapon. And for those who have tetryons, and R62 console, eat your heart out, you little gimmick in an ENG slot just boosted all your weapons!
I'm more interested in what the hell is a kinetic cutting beam? And lol plasma torpedo. That's 2 sets that boost those.
I'm eager to go test this in game!
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What about the people that did not run 3-Borg + Maco?
What about the folks that ran 2-Borg + 2-some other set? Perhaps they ran three of those 2+2 toons? Perhaps now they're looking at completely rerolling the toons?
Perhaps they might complain?
Perhaps?
Run your prefered 2-set + maco shield. That's how I'd adapt. With the plasma torp in the weapons group, I'd try:
DHCx2, beam, torp, purple 2-piece Reman, macoshield, Assimilated.
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LOL, rerolling for a small gear change. If you need to do that your build is rather weak. But trust me it will have very little consequence if you don't respec because a good build is a good build, whatever gear you're using.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Hey, I appreciate the reply - and - it's my fault for not stating that I was coming from a PvP PoV - but yeah, on the PvE side I can see much better ways to adapt. Way different story from that angle, imo.
I'll lose the fluff aspect I had - will have to see if that matters enough or if I can't find some other fluff or if that's it. I'm not a major source of income for PWE by any means, so it's not a threat sort of thing in the least.
Dookie happens - can still be frustrating though.
Um, going from a 2+2 set where the toon's been completely built around those two sets on a particular ship - yeah, that is going to require a reroll.
edit: I suppose it seems silly to do a reroll over the loss of a 1% proc. The thing is - the toons are not built to take advantage of the 3-set bonuses from the main set. The individual part of the set that would be replaced to get that 3-set would also be the wrong part given the character's build. The BOFFs, DOFFs, skill points, the ship, etc, etc, etc - was built around concepts involving those 2+2 sets. Like I said in the other post though, it's just fluff - fun - I'll either find something else or I won't.
edit2: Perhaps it was that wtf kneejerk reaction - but in looking at two of the three in question, tbh - I'm fine just keeping them as they are - I like flying them. I actually see an opportunity for the third that did not exist previously that I'll do a reroll to include the wep/con set.
edit3: Who knows? I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and do something when I have to do something...
I'm not Mai Kai, but I approve of these changes too.
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I'd rather have that then some useless green tractor beam ahha
You're not good at maths are you?
It's going to happen every 2 minutes or so and it lasts 21s. 21s is a huge amount of time in the game, it can make a difference. Acutally it will proc fairly often and will give you a huge buff, considering the fact that no other proc I know lasts such an amount of time.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Also got the option of Omega delflector/shield with Maco engine for more dps if needed.
I used to run 2 piece Maco and the borg engine + console, but switched to the borg for the extra heals.
Made a few million ec putting all my alts borg gear through the replicator and I gained a console slot on all my ships, so thats at least something
If I ever do Elite stfs again, it will be up to cruisers and sci ships to keep me alive like the devs want.
Maybe this is just the shakeup the game needs, but whatever happens, it will be interesting
If you already run 125 power in weapons, do you still get the benefit? Cant remember if we did or not...
As did I, numerous times AND I use it in my builds. I still think this change while good, doesn't go far enough.
Face it, the set is extremely overpowered and was a mistake from day one.
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Yes, especially if you have 6 to 8 weapons to fire. The first one will fire at 125 but the next one could fire at 120, then 110, etc. You can't have enough power to your weapons.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Its not really fraud...not to mention MMO's change stuff all the time.
I'm worried the old set is just gonna be replaced by the new set...that 3 part bonus could be very powerful depending on how much of a damage reduction it gives.
Imagine getting CRFed by a Escort...that defense is pretty much gonna be running till CRF runs out. Honestly...I'm worried that everyone will just run around with the new borg 3 piece set...2 piece of old borg...and a khg or maco shield.
Basically could be going from the frying pan into the fire.
and only the borg console and the tachyokanetic for crits on my Jemmy bug with a full MACO XII set. Have no problems with PvP or PvE. But i am interested in what all 6 set of borg will look like.
i currently run with the 3 piece borg set and macoII shields on most of my ships. is this still a valid or good set up?
what set would you now advise someone to use?
is the borg console worth keeping? is the 3 piece borg set without the console any good?
thanks in advance.
Currently the 3-piece Borg set (Deflector/Engines/Console) gives two powerful healing procs (hull + shields).
When season 7 hits, the Borg Console becomes part of another set - it keeps its properties but in order to get the shield proc (and the tractor beam) you'll need to run Deflector/Engines/Shield.
The capabilities of the Console set (which includes a Borg 'Cutting Beam') are currently unknown.
As to what you should run - whatever works for you. I run full MACO Mk XII on my Excelsior and haven't used the Borg stuff in a long time.
Ok cool, I thought that there was a hard cap @125, but since learned it was removed.
I pvp a lot too. I have some amazing tac/escort players in my fleet. I can tell you the little hit to self healing for escorts is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of points of healing they receive from designated healers. A second or two of prolonging life is important, but this move by cryptic will make better healers shine even more in pvp.
I rarely used the Borg 3-part set (the shield heal never impressed me, was almost allways negligeable in my parses). That allowed me to choose any 2-part set I wanted to use along the (needed - in my eyes, since largest heal excluding SDO doffs) 2-part Borg set.
After that change, I will only be able to get 1 set bonus (because any full existing set would be very underwhelming to me). And that bonus will have to be "Autonomous regeneration sequencer", given its necessity. So my only options now are to choose the shield to go with the Borg deflector and engine. Not a whole lot of variety.
Note: I'm talking from an STF playing PVEer standpoint.
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mayhap i'll see a few people who relied on it so heavily and didn't bother with any defensive skills at all actually blow up less once they adjust.
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