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Re: Lock Boxes (items, etc.), Lobi Store (items, etc.) and Master Keys

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  • happymarvinhappymarvin Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    knuhteb5 wrote: »
    Essentially they are jamming them down my throat. If I don't want them strewn across the screen, I shouldn't have to put up with it and still be able to enjoy the game to the fullest. I'm fairly certain that the ad hoc studies conducted by Dunlang on this layed to rest any doubts we had about our supposed high chances of winning anything.

    Then just turn the Fly-Bys off for Gameplay Announcements.
  • yousuckashellyousuckashell Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Peoples; Dev's and whoever design the lobi crystal setup ...

    I would ask for something really specific; Im here since Days 1; having 5 characters and playing them as often as i feel; i pushed my luck on each of those regardless of the chararter i was choosing with the used ot key to open boxe's .... now im stuck with 300 lobi crystal on each ot them; enough to buy 2 ship at lobi exchange; But i cant since in the beginning no one told us ship's were coming on the market by the use of Lobi crystall (and they were not transferable)

    I ASK OF YOU; since at that time we were never told this would hapen; could you transfert lobi from our many characters into one single character; this one time; caused as i remind you again; loong time ago we were never told this would hapen and if we knew; for god sake i would have chosse a single character to gamble with.....

    Please take this seriously dev's; im not the only one in this situation ....

    tanks:P
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Been wanting this from Beta.... For you non TOS fans that is S01E05 The Enemy Within.

    :( the pink is very rare...

    I love the Alfa dogs too. Here's what I've gathered about them from looking at them and the exchange:

    common varieties: Gray and Brown

    uncommon varieties: Orange (like one in episode) and White (might have poms on tail and antennae)

    rare varieties: Blue and Green (both seem to have pom-poms on their tail and antennae)

    very rare varieties: Black (lots of spikes on back and larger than others) and Pink (poms on antennae and tail)
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  • wong5vewong5ve Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'm willing to exchange a my Temporal Duty Officer and Temporal Beacon for a Wells Class. I really, really want to have it. Unfortunately used up 24 keys and it gave me Duty Officer Cadres. :( Currently only have 500000 EC left and 4 Zen Points left. If interested please message me in-game: David A. Johnson@Wongfive. If you want the Gamma Quadrant Cadres (x4), I'll give it to you too.
  • slick97477slick97477 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    ATTENTION DEV PEOPLE PLEASE READ

    Alot of your players are asking for you to implement a mission or missions to acquire master keys or perhaps keys for specific boxes. Not all players have the money to waste on 50 thousand key to might get a ship but honestly love this game and have been so loyal to it, but have a family to support and just can't afford to waste that kind of money.I personally think this was PWE taking a stab at the folks that have a bit more money than most to buy massive quantity of keys to stuff there pocket books. I have no problem with PWE making money by all means everyone needs to support there families but these lock boxes have been going on for a long while now and alot of money made. For the people that say im complaining about it yes i am but i am not at the same time. I understand everyone has to make money but i am just saying its time to add a different way to get keys. Everyone is after new content so why not add a few new missions or a new short story line so people can acquire keys instead of spending cash money or EC. I personally think alot of people would like the idea PWE and you might just kill 2 birds with one stone and make alot of people happy. Unfortunately i am not DEV or GM so i cannot just simply throw the idea at them and have them run with but hopefully someone in the DEV or GM category will see this and pass it on i hope.


    By the way thanks for all the new ships and other things really cool stuff it looks like anyway. For the time being will have to hope PWE does something to the effect hopefully mentioned above. I cannot take money out of my Daughter's mouth to get a new ship maybe. For the time being will just have to wait and see them fighting and so on for now.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Honestly, I would love to see ways to get Master Keys since I myself am in a very, very difficult finanical position. Unfortunately, I doubt we will see any free alternatives to lockbox keys. Because people would try to exploit such a system, and that Cryptic also uses this to supplement their income (waiting from PWs finaical reports to see if the Lockboxes are the main income or the C-store is).

    Only thing I could think of is Cryptic starts rewarding people with free keys for contests, like the Foundry contests or other stuff Branflakes does.


    So until then, most likely people would say "do the Free Zen stuff" (which I don't trust), buying from the Exchange (1 mil EC per key is.......ouch), or wait for the monthly stripend and hope for the best (did that, got garbage). :(
  • dassemstodassemsto Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    wong5ve wrote: »
    I'm willing to exchange a my Temporal Duty Officer and Temporal Beacon for a Wells Class. I really, really want to have it. Unfortunately used up 24 keys and it gave me Duty Officer Cadres. :( Currently only have 500000 EC left and 4 Zen Points left. If interested please message me in-game: David A. Johnson@Wongfive. If you want the Gamma Quadrant Cadres (x4), I'll give it to you too.

    I'd willingly give up my 10 mirror raptors, 20 temporal devices 30ish polarized weapon boxes and 4 cross-faction consoles to get a temporal sci ship....
  • resolutevoiceresolutevoice Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Temporal mechanics and Cannon aside, I am really loving this ship.

    However, Id really like a better federation skin option for the mobius. One that has blue domes instead of red, and more of a bluey Wells type hull skin.

    Would be great if this was possible!
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  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    /agreed

    Someone in my fleet picked one up and loves it, but is a little unhappy that there is only so much he can do to make it look "Federation."

    I know this is asking for a bit more, how about allowing the type 6 texture to be applied and add more blue to the ship?
  • dralthcaandralthcaan Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Isn't the "DESTROYER" title a little giving to the fact that it is an AU styling? It's supposed to be reflective of the fact that this technology can be very evil if not treated with respect.
    Sure we want to make it nice and respectable, but even if you put a Marine in civvies he is still a killing machine.
  • resolutevoiceresolutevoice Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    So the Aquarius and all escorts should be covered in glowey red doo-dads?

    Just asking for more skin options... if we are going to start debating ifs and buts we may as well start on about its canonical impact.

    I would love a type 6 skin for this! I dont know what the Wells has, but It would be great to have the extra option.
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  • ozujskoozujsko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    ozujsko wrote: »
    i only wanth to know,if i unpack one ship on fed toon and other ship on klink toon can i swap consoles thru accaunt bank to my other ship...because it is saying thet consoles can be equiped on all temporal ships...so can i svich my console from mobius to Korath to have maching set...please can somone comfirm this

    if somone can comfirm or denay this ,that woud be great
  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I don't like any of the new items sadly

    Luckily they kept and put in old items so I can at least go back to grinding for the carrier
  • bruccybruccy Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    200 lock boxes is a bit much for a destroyer that is not better than a fleet aquarius , sure you might have t wait alittle longer till your shipyard is ready .but atleast you wont be missing mortagage payments cause you didnt tell your wife about master keys =p
  • direphoenixdirephoenix Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Temporal mechanics and Cannon aside, I am really loving this ship.

    However, Id really like a better federation skin option for the mobius. One that has blue domes instead of red, and more of a bluey Wells type hull skin.

    Would be great if this was possible!

    Read this post. The Mobius comes with its own skin, the standard MU skin, and if you're a 900-day vet, you can apply the Vet skin. If you manage to get the Wells class, you can apply its skins and windows as well.

    *Also if you get the Aeon shuttle you can get those skins as well.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I tried the Wells skin, the Mobius skin and Vet skin on the destroyer. Wound up going with the dark Mobius skin.

    The Wells will probably sit in my toons shipyard as I much prefer the Mobius and it's cannon usage to the Sci-based Wells.
  • malevolence666malevolence666 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Read this post. The Mobius comes with its own skin, the standard MU skin, and if you're a 900-day vet, you can apply the Vet skin. If you manage to get the Wells class, you can apply its skins and windows as well.

    *Also if you get the Aeon shuttle you can get those skins as well.

    I know you mean, mang. trying to fly under the radar. Did manage to get the destroyer last night.
  • atrus19atrus19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Read this post. The Mobius comes with its own skin, the standard MU skin, and if you're a 900-day vet, you can apply the Vet skin. If you manage to get the Wells class, you can apply its skins and windows as well.

    *Also if you get the Aeon shuttle you can get those skins as well.

    Wait...windows too? Not just skin? So the Wells unlock gives me the blue windows and domes? Can someone confirm this?
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  • atrus19atrus19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I have but one question: If I unlock the Wells class AND the Mobius class, does that give me the option to change the windows and domes of the Mobius class to federation blue?
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    so what are the best, easiest, cheapest methods to obtain keys to unlock boxes ? :D

    Easiest? Buy Zen with real money, use Zen to buy keys.

    Cheapest? Grind Dil, exchange Dil for Zen, use Zen to buy keys; or grind PvE rewards, sell them on the Exchange, use the EC to buy keys. Or do free doff recruitment, ingest doffs up through the tiers to purple, sell purples, use the EC to buy keys.

    You'll have to pick which of those is "Best", because there's no such animal.
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Ok I've played 15 keys so far.

    5 I bought, a few I ground Dilth for, and the rest were gifted to me.


    Of the 15 I've played... I've gotten 13 plain standard DOFF mini-packs, one Assignment Beacon, and one Pol-Dis weapon.


    I polled a couple of big-spenders and they also reported getting "spammed" with DOFF packs more than any other item.



    So what's going on here? Is this a glitch? Or is this working as intended? If it's working as intended I may just save my money (was planning on dropping $250 at the end of October) for something else... like real-world lottery-tickets.

    See... I'm not going to pay real-world $250 for DOFFs I can get in game from SFA missions. That's just not cool.
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Roughly have of the boxes I've opened were DOFF packs. The good news is, there is certainly a super DOFF surplus on the market now... :D

    At this point, I'm only opening boxes for Lobi, since that's the only sure thing you can get.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Well, yes, the last set of lockboxes I opened after the lockbox "fixes" delivered mostly DOFFs.

    I'm not complaining about that because the cost of a key is less than the cost of a DOFF pack in the C-Store and because I throw a lot of DOFFs at the Starbase projects.

    And we'll probably need even more of them when the Fleet Embassies get started.

    Do what I do and mail them to yourself. Then when you need them for a project, you'll have them.
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    hypl wrote: »

    At this point, I'm only opening boxes for Lobi, since that's the only sure thing you can get.

    On average how's the Lobi payout this time around?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    When did anyone care about canon? Did Paramount care about canon when it made JJ-Trek? Did CBS care about canon when it added the Temporal Cold War, Sphere Builders, Xindi, Vulcan Mindmelds, etc? The only people who care about canon are the fans - and they only care about the canon they like. Not the canon as a whole. :)
    Agreed!

    Seriously.... go watch TOS, especially season one, THEN tell me what you think of "canon"....
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  • dassemstodassemsto Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    slick97477 wrote: »
    ATTENTION DEV PEOPLE PLEASE READ

    Alot of your players are asking for you to implement a mission or missions to acquire master keys or perhaps keys for specific boxes. Not all players have the money to waste on 50 thousand key to might get a ship but honestly love this game and have been so loyal to it, but have a family to support and just can't afford to waste that kind of money.I personally think this was PWE taking a stab at the folks that have a bit more money than most to buy massive quantity of keys to stuff there pocket books. I have no problem with PWE making money by all means everyone needs to support there families but these lock boxes have been going on for a long while now and alot of money made. For the people that say im complaining about it yes i am but i am not at the same time. I understand everyone has to make money but i am just saying its time to add a different way to get keys. Everyone is after new content so why not add a few new missions or a new short story line so people can acquire keys instead of spending cash money or EC. I personally think alot of people would like the idea PWE and you might just kill 2 birds with one stone and make alot of people happy. Unfortunately i am not DEV or GM so i cannot just simply throw the idea at them and have them run with but hopefully someone in the DEV or GM category will see this and pass it on i hope.


    By the way thanks for all the new ships and other things really cool stuff it looks like anyway. For the time being will have to hope PWE does something to the effect hopefully mentioned above. I cannot take money out of my Daughter's mouth to get a new ship maybe. For the time being will just have to wait and see them fighting and so on for now.

    True^^

    I'm 15,000 Zen deep in the temporal race, and have only TRIBBLE to show for it :(

    Now, I used to be what is called a returning customer. You know, the ones that ensure the longevity of the business. But this box race has been a thorougly frustrating experience. I am now a seriously disgruntled customer, and I feel completely ripped off! 150$ was laid down, and it got me nothing I ever wished for or wanted. Is this really the feeling Cryptic would like to see in a player?
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I will be getting wells and console set for it
    where is the attack ship at not added to lobi store


    so far I like this box


    the issuse I am having is in the dilithium exchange not paying right zen out do to nerfing or what
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Sigh, every time I get off my Lockbox opening high there is a real low when I don't get what I want (namely the time ship). I opened 48 Lockboxes with keys I ground out in the last few weeks, no money spend and not a one time ship. Now I'm faced on reflecting on the fact that I have used well over 200 master keys, for the past Lockboxes, not including the Temporal, most of those were bought with money and now I feel really low. Mind you I got the Mirror Skin on my Regent, awesome and I did get the Recluse Carrier which is one of the 3 ships I actually cared to get, but the Recluse alone took me over 150 keys to get the Lobi I needed. I am now sitting with 250 something Lobi on my Lobi Bank character and I'm stuck (can't buy time set piece, because I can't transfer it, about 7-9 Lobi per toon from earlier boxes and not enough for a ship *sigh*). Slightly depressed and off my key grinding high and really not feeling like continuing to grind.

    Just needed to get that off my chest. Two of my fleeties popped there Time Vessels, one of which already had the Tholian Orb Weaver and the other traded it for the Mobius. I also noticed people who have 1 ship come out of the lockboxes have high chances of getting more, multiple D'Kora and Galor, but alas reflecting on these two points just makes me more depressed.

    EDIT: I might have better luck selling Master Keys I farm and buying the ships off the exchange.
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  • link8912link8912 Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I've spent a lot on the new box's but no Wells-Class yet, but the other rewards are really great too (like the Doffs that reference other time travel shows and movies) and the Lobi I've gotten will got towards the 29th century uniform coming soon, but just for a bit of a suggestion on how to improve the chance of getting the things you want, how about exchanging a set number of Lock box items for the next reward up (Like with the Doff missions at the Academy's) so if you had 2 or 4 Mirror Universe ships you could exchange it for the Temporal Science ship, this would also work the same with all the lock box items.
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I have 8 Mirror U ships in my bank yet unopened and countless I gave to fleet mates considering how common Mirror U lvl 40 ships are, I highly doubt that will happen. God it feels so good to finally Isometric Charge the Negs in CSE, I think that picks me up a bit (I have 2 unopened boxes of those and 2 opened and 7 still from the last lockbox). I still have about 50 unopened Gamma and regular mini packs, probably had over a hundred of those, but they come in handy for filling DOFFs for SB projects (then again, since there are new lockboxes, fleeties are spending there dili on zen for keys and we are stuck on the Tier 3 construction).

    I looked up the odds on a Time Ship, STOwiki has them at 0.6% and it makes more and more depressed each time I see it pass over my screen someone unlocked a new one. I think they are about 190mil on the Exchange too.
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