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  • dkbennyops222dkbennyops222 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    My only issue with the idea of a Romulan faction is that it would just have the Federation mission with some reskins, and there isn't much left to put in the Romulans that couldn't be done with the Fed or KDF.
  • stogungravestogungrave Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Instead of a Romulan faction, I think they should do a mercenary faction.

    My reasons for this are:

    1) The strength, and weakness of the Feds, and the Klingons are that they have premade rules; which leads to to many limitations with creativity (only certain ships, and outfits, etc). By making a new faction they can do what ever they want with it.

    2) A mercenary faction would allow them to have playable Romulans, Cardassians, and any other race they want.

    3) No limitation on ship designs. Want Romulan, or Cardassian go right ahead. This also leads to the next one.

    4) They can reuse minor race c-store ships (Orion, Nausicaan, Vulcan). After all, mercenaries would use what ever is at hand. This could even be a blessing for the Klingon faction, since it might allow more ships to be made for them.

    5) Outfits. I see no limitations here. You wouldn't have to be stuck with the uniform limitation that the main factions have right now. Or, the colour limitation that the Klingons have.

    6) Wouldn't be that hard to write them into the FE's, STF's, or PVP. In a time of so much war, mercenaries would be all over the place. I know that the Feds wouldn't normally hire mercenaries, but section 31, or corrupt officers might.

    I had a larger list, but these forums are horrible. I couldn't log in for days, and thus forgot much if it. Also, sorry if someone already posted this idea. I can't be bothered to read 25 pages.
  • chelmsford123chelmsford123 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Instead of a Romulan faction, I think they should do a mercenary faction.

    My reasons for this are:

    1) The strength, and weakness of the Feds, and the Klingons are that they have premade rules; which leads to to many limitations with creativity (only certain ships, and outfits, etc). By making a new faction they can do what ever they want with it.

    2) A mercenary faction would allow them to have playable Romulans, Cardassians, and any other race they want.

    3) No limitation on ship designs. Want Romulan, or Cardassian go right ahead. This also leads to the next one.

    4) They can reuse minor race c-store ships (Orion, Nausicaan, Vulcan). After all, mercenaries would use what ever is at hand. This could even be a blessing for the Klingon faction, since it might allow more ships to be made for them.

    5) Outfits. I see no limitations here. You wouldn't have to be stuck with the uniform limitation that the main factions have right now. Or, the colour limitation that the Klingons have.

    6) Wouldn't be that hard to write them into the FE's, STF's, or PVP. In a time of so much war, mercenaries would be all over the place. I know that the Feds wouldn't normally hire mercenaries, but section 31, or corrupt officers might.

    I had a larger list, but these forums are horrible. I couldn't log in for days, and thus forgot much if it. Also, sorry if someone already posted this idea. I can't be bothered to read 25 pages.

    I've had something similar kicking around in my mind for a while too, basically since I made a Roumlan on the Klink side (well, an alien that looks incredibly suspiciously like a Romulan).

    I can't see playable Romulan faction coming along any time soon, but even if it did, I already have many hours/days invested in my alien so I wouldn't necessarily want to start over - that and the look might not be "right" in the new faction, in that I couldn't recreate my Romulan (it really is that good ... to me anyway :P )

    So, another third unassociated faction, with a paid transfer to it from KDF/Fed faction, would be my ideal scenario. The ships and bridges would also be a huge driver for this - to have the ability to fly around in a Romulan ship, as a Romulan, on a Romulan bridge, would be just incredible, and the mercenary faction as outlined in this quoted post would deliver this without the need to write 20 ranks of storyline. If they did, however, it would be good for multiple factions to come.

    If PW want to avoid mass transfers that would be inevitable with a system like this, make them one way only, or at least remove some aspects of the character to make the transfer unattractive to be doing too often, such as rank drop, ship removal, accolade removal - all of which should be recoverable but not easily. Alternatively, make it time limited, like 1 transfer per 6 months or something. I realise that PW accountants would turn green at the thought of profits being turned down over that time but there does need to be balance.

    Anyway that's my thoughts on the subject in a nutshell.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Why discuss ?

    Klinks and rommies shared technology (non-canon), this is where the klinks got their cloak. Feds stole the cloak from the rommies, so everyone's got the same tech.

    Rommies use the same plasma weapons the NPC rommies have, everyone has access to it.

    Do we need a romulan playable faction ? I don't think so, but I know they're some Feddie fanboys salivating at the chance to 'collect' their ships.

    Ya think the KDF content is scarce ? If the Roms become a third faction, then the KDF won't be the most lacking in content anymore.

    This is false the Klingon got their cloak from exchange ship designs of thier own for the cloak.The Romulan cloak went through a change as it now tied in with their warp core be a singlelarity drive.The Klingons use it a a device not attached to thier engines.

    The Federation got the approval to use the Romulan cloak although I think it is of an earlier design just like the Klingons.

    It would be nice as the Romluan ships would finally be balanced out.Romulan shouldn't be allied with anyone just be on their own and mayne the Remans may rejoin them once they get new Prator.

    There is qiute a few PvE mission for the Kdf amd I would say they are fine.
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  • tamerethtamereth Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    When we get romulans it needs to be as their own faction, the idea of them being split between the feds and KDF is horrible.

    All we really need is an end game faction. Give them their own homeworld social hub, fleet bases and allow them to take part in all end game content. Maybe half a dozen missions to set their back story in 2409 up a bit more.
    There plenty of enemy factions that would make sense for the feds, KDF and Romulans to be working together to fight, such as the borg, tholians etc. It's not as if there isn't canon examples of them all working together.

    Everyone always complains about the KDF not being a full faction, but really is the leveling experience that essential in STO. It's not as if you spend months leveling.
  • thetruthurtsthetruthurts Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    tamereth wrote: »
    Everyone always complains about the KDF not being a full faction, but really is the leveling experience that essential in STO. It's not as if you spend months leveling.

    The leveling experience is really the only thing that differentiates the factions, since end game content is the same. If each faction does not have a unique leveling experience then you might as well not have different factions.
  • aj715aj715 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Why discuss ?

    Klinks and rommies shared technology (non-canon), this is where the klinks got their cloak. Feds stole the cloak from the rommies, so everyone's got the same tech.

    Rommies use the same plasma weapons the NPC rommies have, everyone has access to it.

    Do we need a romulan playable faction ? I don't think so, but I know they're some Feddie fanboys salivating at the chance to 'collect' their ships.

    Ya think the KDF content is scarce ? If the Roms become a third faction, then the KDF won't be the most lacking in content anymore.
    I believe we do need a Romulan playable faction. I think that it should come at lvl 30 and you can also have the Remans as part of the faction.
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Agreed. I'd be happy if all romulans had was a HW a few ships and a few playable species. And Doffs, can't forget those.

    At this stage, that would dramatically exceed my expectations.

    There are also loose ends around PVP queue's and the possibility of the Romulan faction not having the population to make viable fleets.
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Right because the first time we seen a Klingon D7 cruiser it did not had Romulan markings and it was the exact same episode were Kirk stolen a Romulan cloaking device.

    Serious ...

    Yeah, awesome episode, though not the first time we see a Klingon D7, that was too episodes earlier when they revealed that Klingons had cloaking devices.
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  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    Ships would be pretty much free reign as we only ever seen four Romulan ships on screen (Bird of Prey, D'deridex, Mogai, and the Romulan Shuttle). I am on the fence with the Scimitar as that is a Reman designed ship and in the Titan books, the Remans became a protectorate of the Klingon Empire and in STO, the Remans began an open rebellion.

    Race, they face the same issue they had with the KDF in that on screen, there was only the Klingons in the KDF and only Romulans in the RSE ( though the Remans were a slightly known entity).

    Abilities. The Romulans were masters of subterfuge. Therefor their uniqueness should be centered around a cloak and dagger mentality.

    We've seen more ships than that on screen and the "Mogai" was not one of them.

    We've seen on screen:

    1 Drone ship

    2 Birds of Prey : TOS/ENT

    1 D7 Romulan Retrofit Cruiser : TOS

    1 scout ship : TNG

    1 Science ship TNG

    2 Warbirds : D'Deridex and the Valdore : Nemesis (modified to make the "Mogai")
    [literally two letters away from the mythical creatures of the movie "Gremlins"]

    1 Cloakable Shuttle/Transport : DS9

    The only ship mentioned in any series that was not seen on screen is the Romulan troop transport mentioned in the Voyager episode "Eye of the Needle".

    So there are some more than you had on your list.
  • ussweatherlightussweatherlight Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Holy thread necrosis Batman!!!
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  • harryhausenharryhausen Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Holy thread necrosis Batman!!!

    It just took him awhile to put together that response.

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