what PWE is trying to do is make the game profitable and popular to more than just fanbois (and girlz no sexism in star trek). How does this make them the most evil company in the history of the world that some of your rhetoric is coming across as? Would other companies handle STO differently? Probably? Would it be any better? Who knows but I am doubtful. If some of the other big companies thought they could make something of it, they would have outbid PWE for Cryptic studios. They didn't and PWE stepped up. I guess you would have been happier if cryptic had just been folded into Atari, stripped of assets and STO quietly killed (as Atari are wont to do) rather than the current situation where at least the game is alive, allegedly there are more players than ever and given the fact that cryptic have been building up its team, PWE are obviously making enough money they are loosening the purse strings a little from the tightly bound knot Atari tied.
I guess despite my usual cynical nature my glass is half full, not half empty.
The same mockery was made about many other Star trek firsts. Fans got together and pooled their money to build star trek themed amusement parks and museums. Million dollar budget Fan fic movies...! Why NOT an mmo?
I'm not saying that's how it will happen, but it's certainly a possibility. Trek fans spend MILLIONS on their hobby. Gamers don't. (At least not like Trek fans) Nobody has ever built a gamer-based casino, or anything like that. Star trek on the other hand, has touched our shared core reality in so many ways that it is impossible to list. Even non-fans say things like "beam me up Scotty"...and I won't even go into all of the ways that a simple show has affected the course of our technology and society.
This game will die if PWE doesn't catch on, and I guarantee you that some other group will step-up and grab the opportunity.
i would go back to when perpetual messed up their implementation if you want to go that route pleasuredome. or even when cbs awarded perpetual the license.
Uh isn't it the other way around? It's a Western MMO that's built from the ground up with Star Trek in it's DNA and now has some Asian MMO monetization influence on it to y'know, get it some money since its F2P?
i would go back to when perpetual messed up their implementation if you want to go that route pleasuredome. or even when cbs awarded perpetual the license.
You know you may be right, and I am probably a bit off with my intentional sarcasm. It seems season 2.1 was the highlight of the last 2.5 years of commercial existence for this game. We had a successful FE and a new one about to hit, some new klinky content (I think that's when it was), and pvp balance was never any better.
So after season 2.1 was when things started going south.
Because its as you say. Trek fans spend millions on their hobby. Which happens to be Star Trek. Not video games.
Look at our sci fi cousins from Star Wars. Even though they had previous smash success with the single player KOTOR games, now even they're trying to figure things out with TOR, despite having a triple A game studio and a heavy hitter publisher behind them on their MMO.
So all the guys who buy Darth Vader costumes for their dogs, sleep in Jabba the Hut pajamas with Colt 45's on their desk, and sacrifice blood to their Sith Altars to sustain George Lucas into the next millennium, are they doing something wrong with the game franchise?
I do not foresee Star Trek fans running a charity for us gamers who happen to be fans of Star Trek any time soon.
Maybe when the 23rd century comes around we'll be able to crowdsource a really good MMO through the love of the IP.
if you stay here, you will have to accept that the game has little to do with star trek but the skin. The game is just being milked by PWE till it dies in maybe 3 or 4 years, I don't see it living further since it would need a lot of updates, bug fixes, content adding (content players ask for), they aren't willing to do.
It's a good game, though. Not a star trek game but a good mmo. It would even be better if there was no irritating small changes all the time (eg : forums with less services).
if you stay here, you will have to accept that the game has little to do with star trek but the skin. The game is just being milked by PWE till it dies in maybe 3 or 4 years, I don't see it living further since it would need a lot of updates, bug fixes, content adding (content players ask for), they aren't willing to do.
It's a good game, though. Not a star trek game but a good mmo. It would even be better if there was no irritating small changes all the time (eg : forums with less services).
I have been playing MMO's since the launch of Everquest. The dynamics of a MMO vs a single player game is very different. STO isn't just a generic sci-fi game with Star Trek skins, it's a Star Trek MMO with the same flaws and constraints as every other MMO out there. Lets closely examine the 800lbs Gorilla, aka WoW, for comparison. At launch it had only world PvP, on blue servers that equated to almost no pvp. On PvP servers it was a whine fest. At launch they had no pvp rewards, none. Raid content was a dungeon called Blackrock spires, 40 man instance. No way to buff other parties, no group buffs, and the most valuable buffs had a duration of 5 mins. yes 5 mins! Thats 40 buffs every five mins.
Lets move foward. Warsong Gulch is released, its a 10 vs 10 capture the flag instance. Horribly unbalanced with a very good chance of A-a steamroll stomp or B-hour + drag on matches with exploits used to keep the flag from being found. New pvp gear introduced along with a pvp ladder that allowed only the best gear to only individuals that could share a character and run 24/7 matches. That was a huge smoking TRIBBLE that lasted way too long even in the face of mass complaints!
Years later, Blizzard has learned a lot but the game is far from perfect, a lot better but flawed. If the most successful, talented, and resourceful game company cannot make a perfect game why set yourself up for disappointment?
PS even now, 8 years after the release of WoW, PvP balance is not in the picture. Raiding is still about not standing in the fire and crafting is ho-hum.
So all the guys who buy Darth Vader costumes for their dogs, sleep in Jabba the Hut pajamas with Colt 45's on their desk, and sacrifice blood to their Sith Altars to sustain George Lucas into the next millennium, are they doing something wrong with the game franchise?
Star wars fans have quite a way to go before they catch up to the fanatisism of star trek fans, but even at their level, I think another Star wars MMO would emerge if the present one were to die. That MMO would probably be a wild success if they had listened to the fans by the way. How long did it take them to brink in the Jedi? That MMO is failing for the same reason this one is.
PWE will milk this game dry and kick us all to the curb. Then another Star trek game will eventually pop up. Because that's how it is and that's how it always has been... This will continue until somebody realizes that this entire phenomena is fan driven.
Seriously, what has PWE done since January that's really made our lives in game all that bloody miserable? I don't get it.
I stopped playing STO a few months before it went f2p at the time when there was no content on the horizon, and now i came back a week ago ( i'm a lifer ) and i can say it was really really good for STO that PWE took over.
STO has improved alot since Atari sold Cryptic, the game was never better .. so i'm also not able to see why ppl complain. Sure the lockboxes are a mass-grave to money if you really want something from them, but the game iteself -- i'm really impressed what they have done reworking so many aspects of the game.
As far as i see it PWE saved STO and changed it to alot better game than Atari was ever willing to do.
Is it me or has STO started to go seriously downhill since PWE took over? Between all the stuipid gimmics to get cash from people, like the rediculous lock boxes with utterly frustrating uselessness, the "if you buy this pack 1000 times you MIGHT get something cool" cstore packs, the 8000 refinment limit, and not the utter faiure of their servers. The game has drastically dropped in quality since the PWE takeover. Granted we may not have STO if it were not for PWE, but I'm starting to think STO would have been better off in the hands of a more capable studio or a more compitant Dev team.
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Well said.
I wish STO had been under the care of a more capable Dev team.
Then we wouldn't have the KDF debacle and perhaps the Romulans might have been eimplemeted already.
All I see is new Bugs, Devs who again break their promises on the KDF and openly insult that part of the playerbase. Then there are server outages and disconnects.
The Lock boxes are even worse and regular C-Store updates instead of new missions.
Oh it can support a Star trek MMO just fine, in fact it can be a runaway success...all anyone has to do is let the star trek fans have thier dose of Star Trek. It's been proven time and time again since the sixties.
What you CAN'T do is take an Asian MMO and slap a Star Trek sticker on it. The fans will leave, and the game will die. The only reason this game is successful is because of the fans. The gamer crowd is transient at best. The Star trek Fans will stick around, and they are loaded with money.
Well, unless you drive them away of course.
PWE apparently does not understand this.
That's alot of assumptions. Oh, and history has contradicted you. More people playing now then when it wasn't owned by pwe, more people paying out now. All you have to do is log on and see the players.
You're in denial. You don't want to admit that the old style trek just hasn't got the numbers to support a mmo. That's been proven. What's saved this game is FTP, and the influx of gamers it brought in. Of course, you'll deny this, and say Trekkers all over the world would play a decent game, but thats just not the case. Sure, there's alot of trek fans out there, but they're getting on now, and don't necessarily want to be playing games.
Star trek needs new fans, fans of the new films need to see some of that in the game. Trouble is the old stylers don't want star trek to move on, they prefer it to be stuck in the 20th century.
That's alot of assumptions. Oh, and history has contradicted you. More people playing now then when it wasn't owned by pwe, more people paying out now. All you have to do is log on and see the players.
You completely missed my point, but that's ok. If you want to believe that Star trek fans cannot support an MMO, I won't stop you.
If you actually gave those fans what they actually wanted, instead of playing marketing games with them, you would find that they would DONATE money just to keep it going. That's how we roll.
All you need to do is give the trek fans a pure product.
That's alot of assumptions. Oh, and history has contradicted you. More people playing now then when it wasn't owned by pwe, more people paying out now. All you have to do is log on and see the players.
You're in denial. You don't want to admit that the old style trek just hasn't got the numbers to support a mmo. That's been proven. What's saved this game is FTP, and the influx of gamers it brought in. Of course, you'll deny this, and say Trekkers all over the world would play a decent game, but thats just not the case. Sure, there's alot of trek fans out there, but they're getting on now, and don't necessarily want to be playing games.
Star trek needs new fans, fans of the new films need to see some of that in the game. Trouble is the old stylers don't want star trek to move on, they prefer it to be stuck in the 20th century.
What you have there is anecdotal evidence, unless you have hard numbers you're just blowing so much hot air.
You completely missed my point, but that's ok. If you want to believe that Star trek fans cannot support an MMO, I won't stop you.
If you actually gave those fans what they actually wanted, instead of playing marketing games with them, you would find that they would DONATE money just to keep it going. That's how we roll.
All you need to do is give the trek fans a pure product.
Giving the fans what they want is impossible. It would take 1 or more games per tv series/movie series, several for different book lines, etc. You are talking about one of the most diverse fan bases out there, and one that is filled with division. I'm not insulting the fan base, as I am one of thoose diverse and divisive fans. If they gave me what i want, it would be a TNG tv based game, and would quietly ignore most of the movies, ds9, voyager, and ent, with a few select callouts to pay homage to TOS.
Also as far as the fan base being able to support a p2p game, me and my friends wouldn't touch this game until it went f2p. Since then i have sunk around 60$ in the game, i know they have spent simular amounts. Look at how many players have joined since f2p, and imagine how much revenue they are generating thanks to all of the shinys, lockboxes, doff packs, ships, etc.
I see STO getting better every all of the time. From what i have read of the pre-f2p days, i am really glad i didnt play then, because i probably wouldnt have returned. Yes, the lock boxes are a rigged game. But the devs listened to the outrage, and introduced the bonus on doff packs. (this does not mean lockboxes are gone, but may reduce their reliance on them in terms of revenue). People claim that the devs dont listen, but i have seen several forum threads become in game items. As far as i can see STO is going strong, and i am glad to be a player. Is the game as good as it can be? No, no game is. But atleast its constantly evolving.
Just my humble and slightly inebriated (2 World Wide Stouts worth) opinion. /rant
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Star wars fans have quite a way to go before they catch up to the fanatisism of star trek fans, but even at their level, I think another Star wars MMO would emerge if the present one were to die. That MMO would probably be a wild success if they had listened to the fans by the way. How long did it take them to brink in the Jedi? That MMO is failing for the same reason this one is.
PWE will milk this game dry and kick us all to the curb. Then another Star trek game will eventually pop up. Because that's how it is and that's how it always has been... This will continue until somebody realizes that this entire phenomena is fan driven.
(Star Wars too)
I really dont get it... I am in no way saying "love it or leave it", but I have read your posts to this point, and can only assume you vehemently dislike the game...
This is a serious question, why do you play? Why invest your time, money, and happiness in something that makes you this angry (or whatever emotion you are feeling)?
I play because I enjoy the game. I was there shortly after launch, left due to personal issues, came back with F2P, went gold, then life...
Yes, I have bought lockbox keys (still do for gold boxes), doff packs, in the vain hope of the new pretty and shiny whatever.... I bought several of the new duty officer packs... and plan to buy several more. I have bought most of the C-Store ships on one character or another... None of this has detracted from my enjoyment of the game itself.
I just do not understand why people play a game that they do not enjoy.
You completely missed my point, but that's ok. If you want to believe that Star trek fans cannot support an MMO, I won't stop you.
If you actually gave those fans what they actually wanted, instead of playing marketing games with them, you would find that they would DONATE money just to keep it going. That's how we roll.
All you need to do is give the trek fans a pure product.
Hmm...
1) I am a star trek fan, have been for many many years Anyone remember the Kobayashi maru game for the Commodore 64? I do.... No I dont wear Spock ears... but recently paid several hundred dollars for a picture with William Shatner (still my favorite captain, but lets not start that war). Loved all the series (albeit not a huge fan of Enterprise). Loved and own the movies... yes, even Star Trek 2007...
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2) I love this game.
Those two facts seem contradictory to your point...
3) Do you seriously think that we can get a bunch of fans together to agree on a better MMO based on star trek? The FED and KDF factions in these forums alone should be enough to scare even those with mild interest away from creating a new MMO. We all have our own take on what it should look like...
Yes there are things I would like to see added to this game for the purist in me... More puzzle based mission as opposed to the constant pew-pewing... Something I can immerse myself in for a couple hours instead of 15 minute chunks (god I wish they would bring back the marathon STF's that existed prior to the split in to mini stf's)...
You completely missed my point, but that's ok. If you want to believe that Star trek fans cannot support an MMO, I won't stop you.
If you actually gave those fans what they actually wanted, instead of playing marketing games with them, you would find that they would DONATE money just to keep it going. That's how we roll.
All you need to do is give the trek fans a pure product.
Pure product? Buy a plane ticket to Bolivia. Guaranteed to have you seeing Mr. Spock in 3D with surround sound.
Giving the fans what they want is impossible. It would take 1 or more games per tv series/movie series, several for different book lines, etc. You are talking about one of the most diverse fan bases out there, and one that is filled with division. I'm not insulting the fan base, as I am one of thoose diverse and divisive fans. If they gave me what i want, it would be a TNG tv based game, and would quietly ignore most of the movies, ds9, voyager, and ent, with a few select callouts to pay homage to TOS.
Also as far as the fan base being able to support a p2p game, me and my friends wouldn't touch this game until it went f2p. Since then i have sunk around 60$ in the game, i know they have spent simular amounts. Look at how many players have joined since f2p, and imagine how much revenue they are generating thanks to all of the shinys, lockboxes, doff packs, ships, etc.
I see STO getting better every all of the time. From what i have read of the pre-f2p days, i am really glad i didnt play then, because i probably wouldnt have returned. Yes, the lock boxes are a rigged game. But the devs listened to the outrage, and introduced the bonus on doff packs. (this does not mean lockboxes are gone, but may reduce their reliance on them in terms of revenue). People claim that the devs dont listen, but i have seen several forum threads become in game items. As far as i can see STO is going strong, and i am glad to be a player. Is the game as good as it can be? No, no game is. But atleast its constantly evolving.
Just my humble and slightly inebriated (2 World Wide Stouts worth) opinion. /rant
I agree with Johnny - you can barely get 5 people to agree how to run a 15 minute stf, how on earth are you going to get thousands to agree on the future of the trek game AND get agreement from CBS to do what they want to do.
Honestly the lock boxes have been the only thing that has upset me. They are just pure spam when it comes to drops and you run one mission and you'll get 30 of them. If the make the C-Store "chance to get this" the approach vs that I'll take that any day. They don't have a subscription base as the primary revenue driver now so the money has to come from someplace.
I think PWE just needs to learn that Eastern business practices (grind fests and lock boxes) won't work in a Western based game community. The lack of new content is truly the biggest challenge and has been since a year after launch. It just sad the community has been saying that with both management teams and not much has been released. Apart from the FEs really and the fact they aren't being focused on is sad as they can really show what the engine can do. All missions in STO should have been like that since launch.
However, with Dan saying S7 will be content focused I'll try and give them some slack. As a lifer I have a vested interest in the game evolving.
I honestly feel like the game has more life in it now than it has ever had, sure there are issues but for the most part the vast majority of the people I meet in game are pretty happy in general.
I personally am not a huge fan of PWE, I don't dislike them, but I have limited experience with them over the last few years and it has been a mixed bag.
Atari has left a bad taste in my mouth with pretty much every single thing they have done in the last two decades, so I am actually pretty happy to see Cryptic get out of that stranglehold.
I have high hopes and great expectations for STO moving forward, and aside from the lockbox fiasco I can honestly say that my experience over the last few months has been very positive. Maybe I'm just a bit biased though, as Star Trek is pretty much my favorite 'thing' ever :P
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Perhaps that will express better what I meant.
What PWE is doing is shameful.
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The same mockery was made about many other Star trek firsts. Fans got together and pooled their money to build star trek themed amusement parks and museums. Million dollar budget Fan fic movies...! Why NOT an mmo?
I'm not saying that's how it will happen, but it's certainly a possibility. Trek fans spend MILLIONS on their hobby. Gamers don't. (At least not like Trek fans) Nobody has ever built a gamer-based casino, or anything like that. Star trek on the other hand, has touched our shared core reality in so many ways that it is impossible to list. Even non-fans say things like "beam me up Scotty"...and I won't even go into all of the ways that a simple show has affected the course of our technology and society.
This game will die if PWE doesn't catch on, and I guarantee you that some other group will step-up and grab the opportunity.
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Gotta keep up that 85% net profit....
You know you may be right, and I am probably a bit off with my intentional sarcasm. It seems season 2.1 was the highlight of the last 2.5 years of commercial existence for this game. We had a successful FE and a new one about to hit, some new klinky content (I think that's when it was), and pvp balance was never any better.
So after season 2.1 was when things started going south.
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Look at our sci fi cousins from Star Wars. Even though they had previous smash success with the single player KOTOR games, now even they're trying to figure things out with TOR, despite having a triple A game studio and a heavy hitter publisher behind them on their MMO.
So all the guys who buy Darth Vader costumes for their dogs, sleep in Jabba the Hut pajamas with Colt 45's on their desk, and sacrifice blood to their Sith Altars to sustain George Lucas into the next millennium, are they doing something wrong with the game franchise?
I do not foresee Star Trek fans running a charity for us gamers who happen to be fans of Star Trek any time soon.
Maybe when the 23rd century comes around we'll be able to crowdsource a really good MMO through the love of the IP.
Gotta get me some of that.
It's a good game, though. Not a star trek game but a good mmo. It would even be better if there was no irritating small changes all the time (eg : forums with less services).
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I have been playing MMO's since the launch of Everquest. The dynamics of a MMO vs a single player game is very different. STO isn't just a generic sci-fi game with Star Trek skins, it's a Star Trek MMO with the same flaws and constraints as every other MMO out there. Lets closely examine the 800lbs Gorilla, aka WoW, for comparison. At launch it had only world PvP, on blue servers that equated to almost no pvp. On PvP servers it was a whine fest. At launch they had no pvp rewards, none. Raid content was a dungeon called Blackrock spires, 40 man instance. No way to buff other parties, no group buffs, and the most valuable buffs had a duration of 5 mins. yes 5 mins! Thats 40 buffs every five mins.
Lets move foward. Warsong Gulch is released, its a 10 vs 10 capture the flag instance. Horribly unbalanced with a very good chance of A-a steamroll stomp or B-hour + drag on matches with exploits used to keep the flag from being found. New pvp gear introduced along with a pvp ladder that allowed only the best gear to only individuals that could share a character and run 24/7 matches. That was a huge smoking TRIBBLE that lasted way too long even in the face of mass complaints!
Years later, Blizzard has learned a lot but the game is far from perfect, a lot better but flawed. If the most successful, talented, and resourceful game company cannot make a perfect game why set yourself up for disappointment?
PS even now, 8 years after the release of WoW, PvP balance is not in the picture. Raiding is still about not standing in the fire and crafting is ho-hum.
Star wars fans have quite a way to go before they catch up to the fanatisism of star trek fans, but even at their level, I think another Star wars MMO would emerge if the present one were to die. That MMO would probably be a wild success if they had listened to the fans by the way. How long did it take them to brink in the Jedi? That MMO is failing for the same reason this one is.
PWE will milk this game dry and kick us all to the curb. Then another Star trek game will eventually pop up. Because that's how it is and that's how it always has been... This will continue until somebody realizes that this entire phenomena is fan driven.
(Star Wars too)
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I stopped playing STO a few months before it went f2p at the time when there was no content on the horizon, and now i came back a week ago ( i'm a lifer ) and i can say it was really really good for STO that PWE took over.
STO has improved alot since Atari sold Cryptic, the game was never better .. so i'm also not able to see why ppl complain. Sure the lockboxes are a mass-grave to money if you really want something from them, but the game iteself -- i'm really impressed what they have done reworking so many aspects of the game.
As far as i see it PWE saved STO and changed it to alot better game than Atari was ever willing to do.
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Well said.
I wish STO had been under the care of a more capable Dev team.
Then we wouldn't have the KDF debacle and perhaps the Romulans might have been eimplemeted already.
All I see is new Bugs, Devs who again break their promises on the KDF and openly insult that part of the playerbase. Then there are server outages and disconnects.
The Lock boxes are even worse and regular C-Store updates instead of new missions.
That's alot of assumptions. Oh, and history has contradicted you. More people playing now then when it wasn't owned by pwe, more people paying out now. All you have to do is log on and see the players.
You're in denial. You don't want to admit that the old style trek just hasn't got the numbers to support a mmo. That's been proven. What's saved this game is FTP, and the influx of gamers it brought in. Of course, you'll deny this, and say Trekkers all over the world would play a decent game, but thats just not the case. Sure, there's alot of trek fans out there, but they're getting on now, and don't necessarily want to be playing games.
Star trek needs new fans, fans of the new films need to see some of that in the game. Trouble is the old stylers don't want star trek to move on, they prefer it to be stuck in the 20th century.
"That's because the stern section is lifting out of the water while the bow is beginning to submerge."
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You completely missed my point, but that's ok. If you want to believe that Star trek fans cannot support an MMO, I won't stop you.
If you actually gave those fans what they actually wanted, instead of playing marketing games with them, you would find that they would DONATE money just to keep it going. That's how we roll.
All you need to do is give the trek fans a pure product.
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What you have there is anecdotal evidence, unless you have hard numbers you're just blowing so much hot air.
Giving the fans what they want is impossible. It would take 1 or more games per tv series/movie series, several for different book lines, etc. You are talking about one of the most diverse fan bases out there, and one that is filled with division. I'm not insulting the fan base, as I am one of thoose diverse and divisive fans. If they gave me what i want, it would be a TNG tv based game, and would quietly ignore most of the movies, ds9, voyager, and ent, with a few select callouts to pay homage to TOS.
Also as far as the fan base being able to support a p2p game, me and my friends wouldn't touch this game until it went f2p. Since then i have sunk around 60$ in the game, i know they have spent simular amounts. Look at how many players have joined since f2p, and imagine how much revenue they are generating thanks to all of the shinys, lockboxes, doff packs, ships, etc.
I see STO getting better every all of the time. From what i have read of the pre-f2p days, i am really glad i didnt play then, because i probably wouldnt have returned. Yes, the lock boxes are a rigged game. But the devs listened to the outrage, and introduced the bonus on doff packs. (this does not mean lockboxes are gone, but may reduce their reliance on them in terms of revenue). People claim that the devs dont listen, but i have seen several forum threads become in game items. As far as i can see STO is going strong, and i am glad to be a player. Is the game as good as it can be? No, no game is. But atleast its constantly evolving.
Just my humble and slightly inebriated (2 World Wide Stouts worth) opinion. /rant
I really dont get it... I am in no way saying "love it or leave it", but I have read your posts to this point, and can only assume you vehemently dislike the game...
This is a serious question, why do you play? Why invest your time, money, and happiness in something that makes you this angry (or whatever emotion you are feeling)?
I play because I enjoy the game. I was there shortly after launch, left due to personal issues, came back with F2P, went gold, then life...
Yes, I have bought lockbox keys (still do for gold boxes), doff packs, in the vain hope of the new pretty and shiny whatever.... I bought several of the new duty officer packs... and plan to buy several more. I have bought most of the C-Store ships on one character or another... None of this has detracted from my enjoyment of the game itself.
I just do not understand why people play a game that they do not enjoy.
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
Hmm...
1) I am a star trek fan, have been for many many years Anyone remember the Kobayashi maru game for the Commodore 64? I do.... No I dont wear Spock ears... but recently paid several hundred dollars for a picture with William Shatner (still my favorite captain, but lets not start that war). Loved all the series (albeit not a huge fan of Enterprise). Loved and own the movies... yes, even Star Trek 2007...
and
2) I love this game.
Those two facts seem contradictory to your point...
3) Do you seriously think that we can get a bunch of fans together to agree on a better MMO based on star trek? The FED and KDF factions in these forums alone should be enough to scare even those with mild interest away from creating a new MMO. We all have our own take on what it should look like...
Yes there are things I would like to see added to this game for the purist in me... More puzzle based mission as opposed to the constant pew-pewing... Something I can immerse myself in for a couple hours instead of 15 minute chunks (god I wish they would bring back the marathon STF's that existed prior to the split in to mini stf's)...
Honestly, this is a damb good game....
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
Pure product? Buy a plane ticket to Bolivia. Guaranteed to have you seeing Mr. Spock in 3D with surround sound.
*sniff*
I disagree man.
I agree with Johnny - you can barely get 5 people to agree how to run a 15 minute stf, how on earth are you going to get thousands to agree on the future of the trek game AND get agreement from CBS to do what they want to do.
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I think PWE just needs to learn that Eastern business practices (grind fests and lock boxes) won't work in a Western based game community. The lack of new content is truly the biggest challenge and has been since a year after launch. It just sad the community has been saying that with both management teams and not much has been released. Apart from the FEs really and the fact they aren't being focused on is sad as they can really show what the engine can do. All missions in STO should have been like that since launch.
However, with Dan saying S7 will be content focused I'll try and give them some slack. As a lifer I have a vested interest in the game evolving.
Nope.
Not a lot of McCoy to vacuum after my last game studio purchase went bust :frown:
I personally am not a huge fan of PWE, I don't dislike them, but I have limited experience with them over the last few years and it has been a mixed bag.
Atari has left a bad taste in my mouth with pretty much every single thing they have done in the last two decades, so I am actually pretty happy to see Cryptic get out of that stranglehold.
I have high hopes and great expectations for STO moving forward, and aside from the lockbox fiasco I can honestly say that my experience over the last few months has been very positive. Maybe I'm just a bit biased though, as Star Trek is pretty much my favorite 'thing' ever :P