[Rollback - Archosaur Server] UPDATED 11.20.13
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »If this had happened to LC instead I wouldn't had minded. I would been very worried only. I would rather lose 5 days of gameplay than 5 years tbh.
The only thing that can't be recovered is the time you expended playing. Everything else can be regained, and for those who cashop their money will be refunded. It sucks that you lost your time, because time is a invaluable resource. Nevertheless, this is a game, and by definition any time you expend here is a waste really. There is always something better to do like helping humanity get better, somehow. You should all try to be more positive, and be thankful that PWE's employees do the best they can.
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »If this had happened to LC instead I wouldn't had minded. I would been very worried only. I would rather lose 5 days of gameplay than 5 years tbh.
The only thing that can't be recovered is the time you expended playing. Everything else can be regained, and for those who cashop their money will be refunded. It sucks that you lost your time, because time is a invaluable resource. Nevertheless, this is a game, and by definition any time you expend here is a waste really. There is always something better to do like helping humanity get better, somehow. You should all try to be more positive, and be thankful that PWE's employees do the best they can.
lose 600+mil, specially when thats 95% of the money you had, we'll see how that turns out to be...
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »If this had happened to LC instead I wouldn't had minded. I would been very worried only. I would rather lose 5 days of gameplay than 5 years tbh.
The only thing that can't be recovered is the time you expended playing. Everything else can be regained, and for those who cashop their money will be refunded. It sucks that you lost your time, because time is a invaluable resource. Nevertheless, this is a game, and by definition any time you expend here is a waste really. There is always something better to do like helping humanity get better, somehow. You should all try to be more positive, and be thankful that PWE's employees do the best they can.
Not exactly true Azura. I for one spent months spamming world chat to buy a dominance tome and finally got one on saturday. Poof, gone. Think about the months of daily WC spamming, and the 2k packs I opened out of frustration trying to get a LUAD at 0.02%.
Then I finally find a seller, buy Zhen and sell hundreds of gold at 1.8 million, 300k higher than where it is when my Zhen was returned only to have the trade reversed on me. So some people lost more than 5 days. Some of us actually lost a good deal of REAL MONEY.
And think about anyone who got a SOT from a pack, or spent 2 thousand mirages on a high refine or double interval daggers after a hundred rerolls that took months to collect the badges?
How about our faction that spent the weekend recruiting 15 new players, doing their cultis and leveling them and gearing them up for Saturdays TW only to log back on and find they are out of faction and won't have the hours. So the answer is no, many of people lost much more than 5 days. The biggest loss however is the loss of TRUST in pwi, and that is something that takes much longer to rebuild than it does to destroy.
EDIT: Think of the PWI like a casino for many because that is what it is. Imagine hitting a jackpot on a slot machine and the house saying "Sorry there was a critical error on that machine we are going to give you the dollar you played back, but we need the million dollar jackpot back. Thanks" There are a ton of people who feel like that on the server right now.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Why should i be happy that, for once in the whole 5 years+ i have been playing, i managed to finally save nearly enough to get my R9 weapon ( after i sold all that i got from packs ), only to have it all taken away.
It's ok for some people that the rollback has benefited them, what about the others that lost out? how are they now supposed to get back all that they lost?
I just can't find the justification as to feel happy about it all & i bet alot of others feel the same0 -
OMGBowPewPew - Archosaur wrote: »Not exactly true Azura. I for one spent months spamming world chat to buy a dominance tome and finally got one on saturday. Poof, gone. Think about the months of daily WC spamming, and the 2k packs I opened out of frustration trying to get a LUAD at 0.02%.
Then I finally find a seller, buy Zhen and sell hundreds of gold at 1.8 million, 300k higher than where it is when my Zhen was returned only to have the trade reversed on me. So some people lost alot more than 5 days. Some of us actually lost a good deal of REAL MONEY.
And think about anyone who got a SOT from a pack, or spent 2 thousand mirages on a high refine or double interval daggers after a hundred rerolls that took months to collect the badges?
How about our faction that spent the weekend recruiting 15 new players, doing their cultis and leveling them and gearing them up for Saturdays TW only to log back on and find they are out of faction and won't have the hours. So the answer is no, many of people lost much more than 5 days. The biggest loss however is the loss of TRUST in pwi, and that is something that takes alot longer to rebuild than it does to destroy.
Had to hit that point home. The loss of items sucks, but in no way compares to the loss of trust. And their continual silence on this issue is making it more likely that trust will never return. I need them to be upfront and honest about this, mistakes happen we all know that but sweeping it under the rug does not help it. Nor does it address one of my biggest concerns about the chances of this happening again. I want to know what steps they are taking to make sure this incident is not repeated. Not only so I don't log in one day to find items and coin missing again but more so that I don't try to log in one day and find my entire server gone. This time they fixed the issue by doing a rollback, what happens if this occurs again and a rollback doesn't fix it and we in fact lose our entire server.AstriaFae
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DefenderofDreams wrote: »ZEN Update:
All ZEN transfers into Archosaur that took place during the rollback time (11/9 - 11/13) should now have been properly restored. The gold should be listed in your account when you log in (push the O key).
If you log on and do not see the proper in-game gold in your account, please put in a support ticket so we can properly address your issue.
There has been some headway concerning options for further recovery, as well as compensation, and I will be providing an update on that tomorrow morning.
you peeps wake up yet? i understand you've been up 22 hours and need sleep but you should probably wake up and get back to work now cause we're still waiting for your "update
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Although i too am pissed about losing things via this roll back but im happy to at least notice they are trying to get stuff back to everyone. i think they should spend some larger percent of focus on getting people their gear / wep / nw tokens back. Only because those are the hardest of items for many to get back.QQ to me ......so i can punch you in the face
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Healer_Star_ - Archosaur wrote: »Although i too am pissed about losing things via this roll back but im happy to at least notice they are trying to get stuff back to everyone. i think they should spend some larger percent of focus on getting people their gear / wep / nw tokens back. Only because those are the hardest of items for many to get back.
I agree. I'm not being greedy like some people, all i'm trying to do it get back what i rightfully won from packs as i was so pleased that i finally was roughly about 50M away from my R9 weapon0 -
BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »lose 600+mil, specially when thats 95% of the money you had, we'll see how that turns out to be...
How did you make 600m in 5 days. Sold some items? Just sell them again. Merchant? People will need to buy what you sold again, because everyone lost something. Coins from selling gold? PW already said they will refund zen, you just need to resell that gold again.
Well, opening packs in the hope of getting a tome was a bad decision. Too bad you didn't open them during the time that was rolled back, right? xDOMGBowPewPew - Archosaur wrote: »Not exactly true Azura. I for one spent months spamming world chat to buy a dominance tome and finally got one on saturday. Poof, gone. Think about the months of daily WC spamming, and the 2k packs I opened out of frustration trying to get a LUAD at 0.02%.
Then I finally find a seller, buy Zhen and sell hundreds of gold at 1.8 million, 300k higher than where it is when my Zhen was returned only to have the trade reversed on me. So some people lost more than 5 days. Some of us actually lost a good deal of REAL MONEY.
How about our faction that spent the weekend recruiting 15 new players, doing their cultis and leveling them and gearing them up for Saturdays TW only to log back on and find they are out of faction and won't have the hours. So the answer is no, many of people lost much more than 5 days. The biggest loss however is the loss of TRUST in pwi, and that is something that takes much longer to rebuild than it does to destroy.
About the gold prices, I wouldnt worry much. Even though we haven't have new sales in 2 weeks, the gold price remains really high.
And finally, did you world chat only for dominance? Why not buy a love up and down and then upgrade it?0 -
you peeps wake up yet? i understand you've been up 22 hours and need sleep but you should probably wake up and get back to work now cause we're still waiting for your "update
" about our compensation
Hey not because you are a person that doesn't need sleep for 2 day's that gm's and everyone
on the PWE team are the same people than you.
You probably know it they have a home to and maybe kids so the have that thing you
call a LIFE, without that you're a ****ty **** that complains about everything.
So shut up let them get some sleep so they don't have a wuzzy brain after 2 hours of work
and then they can try to find a solution to all this ****.
p.s. I don't say you're a ****ty **** with a home and kids. Cause that would be weird O_O0 -
Instead of QQ why dont you look at the other outcomes and then your like this one.
1. Reset the server completely! ( Yes means arch would have to start again)
PROBLEMS: Eveything will be gone eveyone will have to restart from the start. Would take Hours/Days to get the server back online, Loss of all Zen DQ ETC.
2. Manaual Reset of system ( This could take Hours even Months To complete with ongoing issues)
PROBLEMS: Possibility the problem could never be fixed, Some people would not be able to log for days and even weeks. could be ongoing problems with quests and toons ETC Possible Constant server Crashes / Problems.
3 Rollback of the server. ( Simple Fix but also allows them to stop the problem happening.)
PROBLEMS: Minimal time to restore server to full workings. Eveyone sould be able to log in and use the system. Loss of Items ZEN / DQ ETC
In each case their are also problems that will go along with each event.
I know people will dispute this but again in all fairness you truly have no idea what happened and ill bet any clue of how to fix the problem...
Im sure the GMs will look into everything possible to compensate the players of the server but for now it appears the best decision has been made for EVERYONE!
To be fair im just Glad i can log my toon and the server after all this.0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »How did you make 600m in 5 days. Sold some items? Just sell them again. Merchant? People will need to buy what you sold again, because everyone lost something. Coins from selling gold? PW already said they will refund zen, you just need to resell that gold again.
Well, opening packs in the hope of getting a tome was a bad decision. Too bad you didn't open them during the time that was rolled back, right? xD
About the gold prices, I wouldnt worry much. Even though we haven't have new sales in 2 weeks, the gold price remains really high.
And finally, did you world chat only for dominance? Why not buy a love up and down and then upgrade it?
i bought a few costly things, was waiting to buy them for ages but wasn't getting a fair price, now niether do i have the stones nor my freaking money.. what do you expect ?0 -
Instead of QQ why dont you look at the other outcomes and then your like this one.
1. Reset the server completely! ( Yes means arch would have to start again)
PROBLEMS: Eveything will be gone eveyone will have to restart from the start. Would take Hours/Days to get the server back online, Loss of all Zen DQ ETC.
2. Manaual Reset of system ( This could take Hours even Months To complete with ongoing issues)
PROBLEMS: Possibility the problem could never be fixed, Some people would not be able to log for days and even weeks. could be ongoing problems with quests and toons ETC Possible Constant server Crashes / Problems.
3 Rollback of the server. ( Simple Fix but also allows them to stop the problem happening.)
PROBLEMS: Minimal time to restore server to full workings. Eveyone sould be able to log in and use the system. Loss of Items ZEN / DQ ETC
In each case their are also problems that will go along with each event.
I know people will dispute this but again in all fairness you truly have no idea what happened and ill bet any clue of how to fix the problem...
Im sure the GMs will look into everything possible to compensate the players of the server but for now it appears the best decision has been made for EVERYONE!
To be fair im just Glad i can log my toon and the server after all this.
Alot of people understand about the rollback, but it's us, not PWI that paid the price. Some people worked so hard to get what they got, wether it be from sales, trades, farming, whatever, now to have it all taken away. Ofc people will be angry as some people, like me, can't afford to replace what we lost0 -
BringinDeath - Archosaur wrote: »Alot of people understand about the rollback, but it's us, not PWI that paid the price. Some people worked so hard to get what they got, wether it be from sales, trades, farming, whatever, now to have it all taken away. Ofc people will be angry as some people, like me, can't afford to replace what we lost
Yes im not saying that its wrong all im saying is the situation could be a lot worse. Could have been weeks worth of backups if this was left undiscovered. Im annoyed as well but 2x is a start and they have restored Zen so its not as if they are not trying. As with PWI a few more updates would be nice tho...0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »
Well, opening packs in the hope of getting a tome was a bad decision. Too bad you didn't open them during the time that was rolled back, right? xD
About the gold prices, I wouldnt worry much. Even though we haven't have new sales in 2 weeks, the gold price remains really high.
And finally, did you world chat only for dominance? Why not buy a love up and down and then upgrade it?
Well my own inconvenience wasn't really the point of the whole post but let me clarify. I pretty much gave up after months of WC and went to packs in desperation, I knew it was stupid but at least my fate was in the hands of chance and not the handful of players hoarding the tomes on the server. I am acutely aware of how the tomes are made which is why I was first WCing for LUAD/SOT and then eventually resorted to purchasing Dominance because I couldn't find a LUAD or SOT for sale.
I am not worried about the gold prices I am merely stating that when I sold the Zhen I got back today I had to do it at a considerable loss so the rollback did in fact cost me real dollars and many other players as well. So now that I have cleared that up hopefully the point of the post can shine through which was that other players and factions lost more than just a few days of time.
The losses being;
A) The biggest and least tangible loss of trust between customer and service provider.
Monetary loss: The previously mentioned Gold prices being 300k lower and the fact that a gambling driven economy being reversed 4 days prior screws over every one who won anything considerable and is quite simply unethical. Of course it maybe great for the losers which there will mathematically be many more of, but it is nothing short of thievery for those that did win.
C) Group Progression loss: Losing members you recruited within the 100 hour time limit as well as gearing and cultis is quite simply unfair to factions that as a group made a concerted effort over the weekends to prepare for the following TW weekend.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
some facts and thoughts
Starting from the time when they messed up with the duke rose top, pwi has gone through a LOT of **** ups in the past, if i sit back to list them, it would take ages, yet during none of which, there was a roll back so why now ?
Yes, i do understand that it "might" have been worse, but apparently its not the case here. Why ?
First of we do understand this that if there are changes to be made to the game, other than boutique sale ( i might be wrong ), pwi does need to restart its servers. Thats why they normally wait till maintenance to resolve any issue.
Now, as we rolled back 4 days, that too specifically for archo server, its is safe to say that all was good until 9th? Question arises here, it was not possible to have any fault happening after the 9th, i clearly dont remember pwi shutting down our server, or even more all servers. Then what happened? something went wrong during maintenance? what could have gone wrong, cause there was no new patch or expansion or update, it was meant to be a simple restart.
OR did some noob technician actually made a roll back by mistake and set our server 4 days back, and that pro longed time the server was down, they were trying to get it back to normal, or just discussing what excuse to come up with ?
I don't know, and what ever happened here was not a technical error, it was a man made error, which am sure of.
We all know the ToS, but it doesn't mean you spend 1.5k USD in buying R9 just to see it gone the next day ?
Also i guess its time that DoD tells us the compensation or announces that our stuff will get back to us in accordance to the tickets sent..0 -
BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »some facts and thoughts
Starting from the time when they messed up with the duke rose top, pwi has gone through a LOT of **** ups in the past, if i sit back to list them, it would take ages, yet during none of which, there was a roll back so why now ?
Yes, i do understand that it "might" have been worse, but apparently its not the case here. Why ?
First of we do understand this that if there are changes to be made to the game, other than boutique sale ( i might be wrong ), pwi does need to restart its servers. Thats why they normally wait till maintenance to resolve any issue.
Now, as we rolled back 4 days, that too specifically for archo server, its is safe to say that all was good until 9th? Question arises here, it was not possible to have any fault happening after the 9th, i clearly dont remember pwi shutting down our server, or even more all servers. Then what happened? something went wrong during maintenance? what could have gone wrong, cause there was no new patch or expansion or update, it was meant to be a simple restart.
OR did some noob technician actually made a roll back by mistake and set our server 4 days back, and that pro longed time the server was down, they were trying to get it back to normal, or just discussing what excuse to come up with ?
I don't know, and what ever happened here was not a technical error, it was a man made error, which am sure of.
We all know the ToS, but it doesn't mean you spend 1.5k USD in buying R9 just to see it gone the next day ?
Also i guess its time that DoD tells us the compensation or announces that our stuff will get back to us in accordance to the tickets sent..
but why settle for just 'compensation'?
their compensation will NOT match what i lost through rollback, we all know that. Even worse, is if i again brought 300 packs, there is no guarantee that i will get the items again that i lost0 -
Anaxagoras - Raging Tide wrote: »I know many of you may not like this, and are upset with the things you've lost after working so hard for it, but be glad they are doing something. I'm not sure how many people have read the ToS, but PWI has no obligation to explain themselves or compensate you at all. Before you complain a little more, remember you agreed to their terms!
For those of you unfamiliar with the ToS here are some tidbits:
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I won't re-post the entire post, however for everyone who keeps quoting the ToS be aware that they can hide behind all the language they want.
Not every state honors the verbiage they use, in fact in some states the statements they make can not be used as a defense.
I myself am not familiar with the laws of every state or country in which they do business so the ToS itself isn't the whole story. People have different rights depending on where they live and ToS or not, PWE can not just absolve themselves with some text, its all a part of doing business.0 -
thatguy123456 wrote: »I won't re-post the entire post, however for everyone who keeps quoting the ToS be aware that they can hide behind all the language they want.
Not every state honors the verbiage they use, in fact in some states the statements they make can not be used as a defense.
I myself am not familiar with the laws of every state or country in which they do business so the ToS itself isn't the whole story. People have different rights depending on where they live and ToS or not, PWE can not just absolve themselves with some text, its all a part of doing business.
ToS or not. They aren't dumb. An online transaction is still an online transaction it goes both ways so if you really want you can always call up your credit card company and demand for a refund. Even in cases for people who want to quit your company will look at your credit standing and you can get more than a one time refund. The point is that money spent will come back. The items earned from your luck/packs/game will not. PWI should do more to compensate the in game players. I lost so much from packs and it's not like there's guarantee I'll get them back. x2 is definitely not going to cut it. You can give me x2 for the whole year and it won't cut it for me.0 -
For those from other servers that feel the need to respond to what happened here on the Archosaur server. None of what happened to us happened to you, so you don't know how you'd feel if it actually did. You can say you wouldn't mind as much as you want, but you're human just like the rest of us. Humans have emotions. Don't care how you want to keep hiding behind your avatar, but if this happened to you, you would not be so confident to say you wouldn't mind losing what you spent hours working for only to have it taken away from you as if you never did it.0
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Well what WOULD be decent is to get an update of what's going on to save people surmising about what's going on0
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XPuLsEoFHeLL - Archosaur wrote: »seriously, i just want my kitten back, took me a whole day to find b:cry
also yes, bring back the charm and chips sale, tyvm b:bye
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »How did you make 600m in 5 days. Sold some items? Just sell them again. Merchant? People will need to buy what you sold again, because everyone lost something. Coins from selling gold? PW already said they will refund zen, you just need to resell that gold again.
Merchants can't recover those lost 4 days the way you seem to think we can. The GST sale is over, which means we can't flip GSTs like we did over the weekend, and those of us that stocked up GSTs before the sale ended (I had ~230 GSTs worth of chips) to resell later are now SOL. Reselling those 230 GSTs alone would've netted me over 300m profit.
Not to mention the loss of event gold (the promo for which is also now gone). I and a couple others I know lost over a thousand event gold each because of this rollback - and since we didn't charge zen during this time period, we won't get it back.Current: http://mypers.pw/1.8/#133167
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Anaxagoras - Raging Tide wrote: »I know many of you may not like this, and are upset with the things you've lost after working so hard for it, but be glad they are doing something. I'm not sure how many people have read the ToS, but PWI has no obligation to explain themselves or compensate you at all. Before you complain a little more, remember you agreed to their terms!
For those of you unfamiliar with the ToS here are some tidbits:
All from http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
Remember, they are just doing their jobs and ultimately it is your decision to play. No one is forcing you to stay around, you do have the right to be upset, but PWE has the right to do as they please with their game!
If a rollback does happen on RT, I for one will stand by their decision regardless of how much I lose, with or without compensation. b:bye
This will be my first, last, and only post.
The ToS is not as iron clad as one might think. Agreements such as a ToS are known as shrinkwrap agreements/contracts and are very common, but that still doesn't make them impossible to overcome.
On the other hand, a lawsuit based on such a contract would be expensive and time consuming and not worth it in the long run.0 -
jarkhen - Archosaur wrote: »merchants Can't Recover Those Lost 4 Days The Way You Seem To Think We Can. The Gst Sale Is Over, Which Means We Can't Flip Gsts Like We Did Over The Weekend, And Those Of Us That Stocked Up Gsts Before The Sale Ended (i Had ~230 Gsts Worth Of Chips) To Resell Later Are Now Sol. Reselling Those 230 Gsts Alone Would've Netted Me Over 300m Profit.
not To Mention The Loss Of Event Gold (the Promo For Which Is Also Now Gone). I And A Couple Others I Know Lost Over A Thousand Event Gold Each Because Of This Rollback - And Since We Didn't charge Zen During This Time Period, We Won't Get It Back.
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Let's try to focus on moving forward since there is little we can do at this point about what has already happened.
Perhaps let's list what we, the players, would consider fair compensation? Maybe the developers will listen and offer something less generic then 2x. Remember the problem with the 5th year anniversary rewards? Everyone had a chance to benefit. So I am hoping PWI will continue to try to create good will.
For me:
It isn't so much about the money lost, it is about the time spend over the past few days. I opened several meridian gates and got a good portion of my celestial cultivation completed.
But for others, it is about the in-game funds lost.
What about offering different options to different people?
1)Offer 1 full level advancement in the form of an NPC or items. For people who are higher levels, getting even 1% may take some time.
2)Offer x amount in gold. This would be good for those who lost in-game money due to reversed trades, sales etc. The ones who spent real money on ZEN and bought packs would have a chance again to buy additional packs if they wished (and let's hope the drop rate for packs is increased just a bit for a few days at least)
3)Offer advance in cultivation by 1 level.
I am sure others can come up with additional ideas. Ones that give options and fit different situations.
Lastly, they really need to bring back the chips sales to be fair. I know of at least 2 people who lost their nice band new shiny R9 rings because of the rollback. Yes, the gold was returned spent on packs, but now they need to spend much more to get the same amount of chips.0 -
Let's try to focus on moving forward since there is little we can do at this point about what has already happened.
Perhaps let's list what we, the players, would consider fair compensation? Maybe the developers will listen and offer something less generic then 2x. Remember the problem with the 5th year anniversary rewards? Everyone had a chance to benefit. So I am hoping PWI will continue to try to create good will.
For me:
It isn't so much about the money lost, it is about the time spend over the past few days. I opened several meridian gates and got a good portion of my celestial cultivation completed.
But for others, it is about the in-game funds lost.
What about offering different options to different people?
1)Offer 1 full level advancement in the form of an NPC or items. For people who are higher levels, getting even 1% may take some time.
2)Offer x amount in gold. This would be good for those who lost in-game money due to reversed trades, sales etc. The ones who spent real money on ZEN and bought packs would have a chance again to buy additional packs if they wished (and let's hope the drop rate for packs is increased just a bit for a few days at least)
3)Offer advance in cultivation by 1 level.
I am sure others can come up with additional ideas. Ones that give options and fit different situations.
Lastly, they really need to bring back the chips sales to be fair. I know of at least 2 people who lost their nice band new shiny R9 rings because of the rollback. Yes, the gold was returned spent on packs, but now they need to spend much more to get the same amount of chips.
I disagree with this. The chances of getting decent items from packs are slimmer than an anorexic on a diet that has fasted for a week tbh. I just want back what i lost from the packs. because after i sold the items, i would have been VERY close to my R9 weapon for my barb, THAT'S why i'm so angry about all this0 -
What about offering different options to different people?
1)Offer 1 full level advancement in the form of an NPC or items. For people who are higher levels, getting even 1% may take some time.
2)Offer x amount in gold. This would be good for those who lost in-game money due to reversed trades, sales etc. The ones who spent real money on ZEN and bought packs would have a chance again to buy additional packs if they wished (and let's hope the drop rate for packs is increased just a bit for a few days at least)
3)Offer advance in cultivation by 1 level.
LOL yes i want 1000 Joy Scrolls for free ! and +1 lvl keeping my current percentage of xp
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