New PW Expansion (PWCN: Glory and Rebirth)

SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

They weren't disabled, she just didn't have enough MP to cast them at the time.

MP wasn't the probem, the problem was that the dagger she was using no longer had the required stat points to use and therefore was red. Most of the assasin skills require having a dagger equiped so it looked like the skill were not active. Standard skills like triple spark that don't require a dagger to be equiped were able to be used from the start.

When she then equiped a lower level dagger from the stash all skills were then able to be used. So it is a stat issue with equiping weapons.

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear

SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver wrote: »

MP wasn't the probem, the problem was that the dagger she was using no longer had the required stat points to use and therefore was red. Most of the assasin skills require having a dagger equiped so it looked like the skill were not active. Standard skills like triple spark that don't require a dagger to be equiped were able to be used from the start.

When she then equiped a lower level dagger from the stash all skills were then able to be used. So it is a stat issue with equiping weapons.

All wiz skills don't require weapon. Will be different for us f:grin However MP might be an issue f:brick

Desdi - Sanctuary

Thanks for sharing the videos
It's quite interesting, now the only question remains is what happens once you hit lvl100 again..

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thanks for sharing the videos
It's quite interesting, now the only question remains is what happens once you hit lvl100 again..

I think I read somewhere else that every time you reincarnate it writes a new entry in that book for your character. Looking at that screen it definitely looks like the interface supports having multiple historic chars that you could feed XP too. http://i.imgur.com/VThbnzF.png

EDIT: I looked at the UI code for this window and can confirm there are up to 10 different rewrite buttons that will show up.

Also you can see in that interface that if she fed enough XP to the 101 historical character she'd get 7 extra stat points which is the correct amount since 102 is 32 and 101 is 25. http://i.imgur.com/e7n7wqZ.png

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thanks for sharing the videos
It's quite interesting, now the only question remains is what happens once you hit lvl100 again..

I think you just hit 100 again, Nothing new in the files to indicate anything else

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »

All wiz skills don't require weapon. Will be different for us f:grin However MP might be an issue f:brick

the sin had mp minus gear to the same level it had, it only lost the gear MP/HP so it was a 101 sin't base MP

Hojuken - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think I read somewhere else that every time you reincarnate it writes a new entry in that book for your character. Looking at that screen it definitely looks like the interface supports having multiple historic chars that you could feed XP too. http://i.imgur.com/VThbnzF.png

Also you can see in that interface that if she fed enough XP to the 101 historical character she'd get 7 extra stat points which is the correct amount since 102 is 32 and 101 is 25. http://i.imgur.com/e7n7wqZ.png

It seems pretty likely you'd be able to feed XP to any previous character for more stat points. I'm not too worried about it.

So technically, let me see if I get this straight..

If you reincarnate at Level 105 you get the set amount of Level 105 bonus stats, if you reincarnate at a lower level - say 102 - you'll get the set amount for 102 toons which is significantly lower, BUT once you hit Level 100 on your reincarnated toon you'll be able to pour XP into your historical level and every time you "ding" your historical level you get the set additional bonus stats?

So basically there's no point in leveling to 105, since you'll get more XP after reincarnation anyway (4x, wasn't it?) and you get all the stat points you'd get at 105 as well after you level your historical toon to 105.

Am I getting this right?

Also, the whole "maximum number of reincarnations = 2" is false? You can reincarnate way more often?

Does each reincarnation give stat points, or do they change it up every time you reincarnate? Any info on that? Couldn't find any in here. If I missed it... my bad.

As for the "Ingot" items you get at Level 105 from the bag, seems only logical to me that it would be the ingots you need to create G12 skills. Says somewhere it needs x amount of ingots and x amount of w/e. Could be wrong.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Hojuken - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So technically, let me see if I get this straight..

If you reincarnate at Level 105 you get the set amount of Level 105 bonus stats, if you reincarnate at a lower level - say 102 - you'll get the set amount for 102 toons which is significantly lower, BUT once you hit Level 100 on your reincarnated toon you'll be able to pour XP into your historical level and every time you "ding" your historical level you get the set additional bonus stats?

So basically there's no point in leveling to 105, since you'll get more XP after reincarnation anyway (4x, wasn't it?) and you get all the stat points you'd get at 105 as well after you level your historical toon to 105.

Am I getting this right?

Also, the whole "maximum number of reincarnations = 2" is false? You can reincarnate way more often?

Does each reincarnation give stat points, or do they change it up every time you reincarnate? Any info on that? Couldn't find any in here. If I missed it... my bad.

As for the "Ingot" items you get at Level 105 from the bag, seems only logical to me that it would be the ingots you need to create G12 skills. Says somewhere it needs x amount of ingots and x amount of w/e. Could be wrong.

You have it right but the maximum number of reincarnations is currently set to 2.
I checked the UI code for that window to be sure and can confirm that every reincarnation you do will have its own rewrite button (the window is set up to allow up to 10 reincarnations though).

I'm not sure if you have to wait till 100 to feed XP into historic characters.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

You only get the 4x XP from level 1 to 99 when reincarnated. Things that happen when you hit 100 after reincarnation:
Your XP gain rate is reset to normal.
You may reincarnate (if you have not already reached the maximum number of reincarnations.)
The book demon may be activated to feed XP to your historical character(s).

Desdi - Sanctuary

I see, thanks for the information
Sucks though that getting to 105 will have to be the same way again x.x but oh well. At least I'm glad I don't have to do that on alts to get a good bonus of attribute points.

DeffyNature - Archosaur

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think I read somewhere else that every time you reincarnate it writes a new entry in that book for your character. Looking at that screen it definitely looks like the interface supports having multiple historic chars that you could feed XP too. http://i.imgur.com/VThbnzF.png

EDIT: I looked at the UI code for this window and can confirm there are up to 10 different rewrite buttons that will show up.

Also you can see in that interface that if she fed enough XP to the 101 historical character she'd get 7 extra stat points which is the correct amount since 102 is 32 and 101 is 25. http://i.imgur.com/e7n7wqZ.png

This is the best news ever! So everyone can eventually get the bonus stats, that's all I wanted to know... well, no, not really, I still have dozens of questions lol.

Desdi - Sanctuary

DeffyNature - Archosaur wrote: »

that's all I wanted to know... well, no, not really, I still have dozens of questions lol.

Me too...me too b:chuckle but I'm happy to have the most important question answered (at least the question I'm been having for days now xD).

SyntherosX - Harshlands

_Lisanna_ - Morai wrote: »

video => Assassin lvl 101 reincarnate to lvl 1

Video number 2

New daily quest

*Big Sigh of relief*

I noticed even after reincarnation you maintain your stealth detection levels. Very happy about that ^-^ I guess i'll instantly reincarnate after all.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Oh cool, I hadn't checked that. Means I didn't get to 105 for nothing then xD

opkossy

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh cool, I hadn't checked that. Means I didn't get to 105 for nothing then xD

Psh. You make it sound like the sexy avatar doesn't count. b:sad

Saethos - Raging Tide

Yay for my rank 8 recast full set, it adds somewhere around 50 strength for me, so I might be able to wear my stuff a lot sooner than most people. Sounds good to me!

NigeIus - Dreamweaver

i dont get something, after u reincarnate, u have to lvl from 1 to 100 as we use to do, and if u were lvl 105 u get free 100→105? or u have to do all the work again? i am sooo confused with this, the extra stats are good but if u have to reach lvl 105 again then it is **** but as it was posted above me u keep stealth detection and such then being 100 or 105 after reincarnate it is the same... well 101 for r9 i guess. And dmg reduction? do u keep the dmg reduction u have at lvl 105?

if any1 can answer me that i would apreciate it. or at least give me a link wiht a clearly description of this new system.

Zoldi - Morai

You don't need to reach 101 after reincarnation to wear R9 gear.
Most of (or maybe all) the answers to your questions are already above in this same thread b:sad

sklepowaja

So there won't be any new high lvl gear like r10 or something?

Desdi - Sanctuary

OPKossy wrote: »

Psh. You make it sound like the sexy avatar doesn't count. b:sad

b:surrender

Though to be honest, I think the lvl 80-104 fox venomancer avatar looks cuter.

NigeIus - Dreamweaver

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

You don't need to reach 101 after reincarnation to wear R9 gear.
Most of (or maybe all) the answers to your questions are already above in this same thread b:sad

link?couse really, i dont think what i asked is clearly stated above in this same thread, might be stated but not clearly, can u confirm this?
1- being lvl 100 or 105 after reincarnation is the same (talking about dmg reduction, stealth detection, detection lvl, nw pills buffs)

2- u only have to lvl from 1 to 100 and then in lvl 100 u go bk to ur previus lvl, before u reincarnate.

3-what u need to reincarnate might be able to obtain in packs and the chances to get that is 0.001, so thats mean it might cost more than a scroll of tome

4-if u were 105 b4 reincarnate thats meant after u reincarnate and u hit lvl 100 u gain more stats than if u were 104.


those are my questions that i dont find a clearly afirmative or negative answer to all of this, some say yes, others say no and most of them are just random ppl that might be troll or not...

Azura - Lost City

NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

link?couse really, i dont think what i asked is clearly stated above in this same thread, might be stated but not clearly, can u confirm this?
1- being lvl 100 or 105 after reincarnation is the same (talking about dmg reduction, stealth detection, detection lvl, nw pills buffs)

2- u only have to lvl from 1 to 100 and then in lvl 100 u go bk to ur previus lvl, before u reincarnate.

3-what u need to reincarnate might be able to obtain in packs and the chances to get that is 0.001, so thats mean it might cost more than a scroll of tome

4-if u were 105 b4 reincarnate thats meant after u reincarnate and u hit lvl 100 u gain more stats than if u were 104.


those are my questions that i dont find a clearly afirmative or negative answer to all of this, some say yes, others say no and most of them are just random ppl that might be troll or not...

I think if you read the last 5 pages of this thread you will find answer to all your questions. Pay special attention to post made by Asterelle and MayFly because they are well informed.

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

link?couse really, i dont think what i asked is clearly stated above in this same thread, might be stated but not clearly, can u confirm this?
1- being lvl 100 or 105 after reincarnation is the same (talking about dmg reduction, stealth detection, detection lvl, nw pills buffs)

2- u only have to lvl from 1 to 100 and then in lvl 100 u go bk to ur previus lvl, before u reincarnate.

3-what u need to reincarnate might be able to obtain in packs and the chances to get that is 0.001, so thats mean it might cost more than a scroll of tome

4-if u were 105 b4 reincarnate thats meant after u reincarnate and u hit lvl 100 u gain more stats than if u were 104.


those are my questions that i dont find a clearly afirmative or negative answer to all of this, some say yes, others say no and most of them are just random ppl that might be troll or not...

EDIT: Corrected my info to prevent any further misinformation.
Alright, let's see if we can clear some things up:
When you reincarnate, your old level is recorded as your "Historic Level".
From all the reports we've gotten so far; You keep your stealth detection levels, all your skills, your cultivation. Practically everything except your stats and base HP/MP, sending you back to Lv.1 in that sense.

To answer #1: You're basically treated as your "Historic level" for anything regarding level requirements; I presume you'll still get to keep your damage reduction, no concrete answers on that though.

To answer #2: No, you do not get an "instant 105" once you hit 100 again, but, your "Historic level" does come into play for most things.

To answer #3: Reincarnation appears to cost 2m, without the need for any boutique items, as well as a minimum level of 100. There is currently a limit to how much you can reincarnate; The current cap is 2, with an absolute max of 10.

To answer #4: Basically yes. When you reincarnate; you get bonus attribute points based on what level you reincarnated, with a maximum of 76 at 105. So yes, after reaching 100 again, you would have more points than someone who's at 104 or reincarnated at 104. This gap can be closed by being able to pour exp into your "Historic level", leveling it up to gain those extra points you missed out on.

OFate - Heavens Tear

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Alright, let's see if we can clear some things up:
When you reincarnate, your old level is recorded as your "Historic Level".
From all the reports we've gotten so far; You keep your stealth detection levels, all your skills, your base HP/MP. Practically everything except for your stat points.

To answer #1: You're basically treated as your "Historic level" for anything regarding level requirements; I presume you'll still get to keep your damage reduction, no concrete answers on that though.

To answer #2: No, you do not get an "instant 105" once you hit 100 again, but, your "Historic level" does come into play for most things.

To answer #3: Reincarnation is completely free, you simply need to hit Level 100 in order to reincarnate, there is currently a limit to how much you can reincarnate. The current cap is 2, with an absolute max of 10. All it costs is time.

To answer #4: Basically yes. When you reincarnate; you get bonus attribute points based on what level you reincarnated, with a maximum of 76 at 105. So yes, after reaching 100 again, you would have more points than someone who's at 104 or reincarnated at 104. This gap can be closed by being able to pour exp into your "Historic level", leveling it up to gain those extra points you missed out on.

We need a Dummies guide.. seriously. The more I read the more confused I get.

I'm still trying to learn what I've missed the last 2 years..

b:surrender

Desdi - Sanctuary

I'm sure there will be guides written and posted on these forums as soon as this system goes live and people try it out but at the moment the information comes from PWCN servers. Very few people have access to an account there and unless you know chinese it's not easy to translate/understand stuff.

NigeIus - Dreamweaver

OFate - Heavens Tear wrote: »

We need a Dummies guide.. seriously. The more I read the more confused I get.

I'm still trying to learn what I've missed the last 2 years..

b:surrender

^^^^i know ur feelings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!b:chuckleb:pleasedb:laugh

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Alright, let's see if we can clear some things up:
When you reincarnate, your old level is recorded as your "Historic Level".
From all the reports we've gotten so far; You keep your stealth detection levels, all your skills, your base HP/MP. Practically everything except for your stat points.

To answer #1: You're basically treated as your "Historic level" for anything regarding level requirements; I presume you'll still get to keep your damage reduction, no concrete answers on that though.

To answer #2: No, you do not get an "instant 105" once you hit 100 again, but, your "Historic level" does come into play for most things.

To answer #3: Reincarnation is completely free, you simply need to hit Level 100 in order to reincarnate, there is currently a limit to how much you can reincarnate. The current cap is 2, with an absolute max of 10. All it costs is time.

To answer #4: Basically yes. When you reincarnate; you get bonus attribute points based on what level you reincarnated, with a maximum of 76 at 105. So yes, after reaching 100 again, you would have more points than someone who's at 104 or reincarnated at 104. This gap can be closed by being able to pour exp into your "Historic level", leveling it up to gain those extra points you missed out on.

I've got to disagree on a couple of points. Reincarnation isn't totally free (one of the images in the initial Japanese blog post on the expansion after it went live on the test servers shows a 2,000,000 cost... presumably coins, the picture actually says 200万, 万 being the character for 10,000, and the Japanese caption translates to "Pay 2m and reincarnate." No pack item needed.

You don't keep your base HP/MP, but rather have the HP/MP of your new level, enhanced by whatever of your old gear you can still wear (you can wear all ornaments and cloak you could before, and any rank gear that doesn't have stat requirements, from reincarnated level 1.) The same blog shows a level 102 elf (I believe archer) reincarnated at level 1 with 3502 HP and 168 MP, which is mostly coming from gear adds (the character has 47 vit and 7 mag from gear adds, coming from tome, rank top, rank pants, necklace, cape, belt and rings, and presumably some of those also have +HP and/or +MP.)

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I've got to disagree on a couple of points. Reincarnation isn't totally free (one of the images in the initial Japanese blog post on the expansion after it went live on the test servers shows a 2,000,000 cost... presumably coins, the picture actually says 200万, 万 being the character for 10,000, and the Japanese caption translates to "Pay 2m and reincarnate." No pack item needed.

You don't keep your base HP/MP, but rather have the HP/MP of your new level, enhanced by whatever of your old gear you can still wear (you can wear all ornaments and cloak you could before, and any rank gear that doesn't have stat requirements, from reincarnated level 1.) The same blog shows a level 102 elf (I believe archer) reincarnated at level 1 with 3502 HP and 168 MP, which is mostly coming from gear adds (the character has 47 vit and 7 mag from gear adds, coming from tome, rank top, rank pants, necklace, cape, belt and rings, and presumably some of those also have +HP and/or +MP.)

Welp, serves me right for not doing enough research. I've got some edits to make.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver

Video of reincarnation system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzupgullcGo

Cantabrum - Archosaur

not quite sure why worry for somenthing dont going by here atleast on 2-3 months plus we dont know what is going to by added here we dont get the same updates usually that PWCN does have