Tweaked TT Bosses?
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this noob has obv just barely done 1-3
soulbanisher always had extremely hard mag atk... when i used to farm 1-3 on my bm for mirrors mag atk fireball hit me for around 4-6k and phys atk were around 1-2k with phys aoe doing **** dmg
every time cast time cool down which is every 7-8 seconds they follow up mag atk with another quick phys atk
this thread read like ufo observors with absolutely nothing concrete to back up vague statements0 -
So sry but i start to get more then just a bit mad... im very very mad... got the hell u stupdid NOOBS call others noobs without any idea of us our gameplay, chars, knowledge or something... that make u stupid and rlly rlly stupid ur damn heads deep inside to rlly noobs...
Im normal rlly not like that u can believe me and all what u noobs can is say u are wrong and insult without any reason... know what i have a reason i got insulted first... maybe u will call me a kid, but im not, no im just mad and the thing is i feel like i would hurt u in ur face but i cant and if i would can i would never do... i want just one, that u get the info that ur stupid kind of insulting ppl dont do anything better
If its not enough that there is A VENO, that have a HERC in LEVEL 100 cant do it anymore like before... what the hell want u still? HERC-VENOS in LEVEL 100... god the hell so u dont need to look for gear or something... the herc is from boutique, the lvl is clear and u tell things like that... Do what u want u guys that are so stupid in their heads so far that u just can insult ppl for NOTHING U NOOB0 -
Yes QUICK phys attk not instant. Also, guess how has higher mag. def a bm or a 97 sin in bb. Banisher is hitting for 5-6k in bb now.
So what do you think i should do? I cant give you exact numbers for my runs before, i didnt even screened. Also i cant screen any new behaviour like debuffs aoes etc... hes just hitting hard like hell now even after im 5 lvl higher than last time. So wtf am i supposed to do? Shall i provide screens how that boss is **** me with his hits now?
Wont help a bit cuz then the posts with "hes having a big dmg range" will pop up again ... useless.0 -
secretsurprise wrote: »If its not enough that there is A VENO, that have a HERC in LEVEL 100 cant do it anymore like before... what the hell want u still? HERC-VENOS in LEVEL 100... god the hell so u dont need to look for gear or something... the herc is from boutique, the lvl is clear and u tell things like that... Do what u want u guys that are so stupid in their heads so far that u just can insult ppl for NOTHING U NOOB
The instance difficulty was changed 7 months ago. It wasn't this patch. Herc venos haven't been able to tank it since then.
So if you're referring to "before" as in over 7 months ago, you're out of luck. b:byeBM PvP Guide: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1320761
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obviously if u cant even show any proof of what u got before and after.... this is why this topic on page 7 and only posts being made r insults
topic is a joke like the others that make claim with no testing just assert and argue0 -
No i or better dont talk from 7 months ago gth 7 months that was winterstart last year... we did tt's in that time... maybe we did the last 2 months ago maybe 3 but not more. And i dont talk from a bit bad luck, how often was that arguement here? And how often i told again and again no its not just thats its damn more... maybe not often enough. For sure we didnt tt for some time and now last days we started some and we were wondering what happend. Thing is im mad of all this here. The mods didnt anything wrong so far... but i rlly think the support did... Thats my opinion sry, just get it dear support..
Why? I tell u why... its a game, and a game needed to be played. As best example here Perfect World International, play this, mean u do instances for lots of reasons all the time, first for most classes with 19, the fb, later 29 later bh29, later later later and on any time u can start do tt, for what? for get mats for gear, u need to collect it and give it to forge and so on.. u guys know the way... thing is... think on tt 1-3, there drop mats u need for lvl 80. so ur in lvl range lets say lvl 78 as start and higher. U have a squad for sure... u do runs with classes in like cleric, barb and some dd's. And the thing is at the moment it seems there is no way to do it.... a lvl 100 heavy char get hits from soulbanisher like 9k as start... lvl 80 barb with mid gear that start tt's to collect mats for his tt 80 gear cant stand that, thats it... even a lvl 80 barb with good gear cant stand it, anyway if hes charmed or not cause full socket and all wont give him enough hp to stand that... he will be nearly one hitted or as last two hitted cause of the double hit... and that with a good cleric in bb and a second cleric with ih. so where is the game if its not possible to go tt for own gear? i thought long time its just collu that is hard like that u cant do it in lvl range to get gba for own gear, now it seems all kind of tt are included, i dont see the point of the game on that.
So for what reason this support is not able to get infos from ppl that there is anything going on and give it to proof it to the ppl that should do that, instead of it we have to start a thread to get insulted from that ppl? U want say now just ignore them... but hey thats all we get, no help, no proof nothing, just some ppl that give us right and others that give bad post in and some less that are able to say in normal way that they dont see a change. And still its not enough for a lil proof about it, im sad, im not sure if its that worth. Till know i was thinking the support here is the best of all games i played before. Thats it was make me so sad now, i dont think that anymore, cause this support was sending us in do a thread for that... instead of give us support, just a lil proof and info on it and maybe maybe a change after it to do it so that its possible to do tt in the lvl range u need... rlly sad... thats it why i cant ignore that
but i do one now... i rlly ignore this stupid guy eden... why... let me say it so... his last post is cryin about he got insulted... wuhuuhhh didnt u do it first? poor guy... i said u what i think about u and after u started in that way i dont have anymore a reason to say more about u... i mean what i say about u... thats all, do what u want... it dont matter0 -
Twilight Temple 2-3 Fatiliqua: Null. Pre Genesis expansion, he would hit me about 1,100 on average a hit. Now he hits for over 1,600 on average hits. He is a purely physical attack boss. I'm a Heavy armored Venomancer (over 25k physical defense when fully buffed now.) Whereas Before genesis, my physical defense peaked just over 21k buffed. How can you explain the increase in damage, when my defense has clearly gotten better? And people like you edan, you're the ones without proof. You've not showed a single point of situation for yourself.
After a discussion in my faction chat, we'd began noticing that it was after a certain trigger effect that there was a large damage spike for other bosses that were not purely physical. (Soul Banisher and Wurlord casting, General Feng debuffing HP, Colluseast aoe sealing for examples) It seems like it could be a side effect of a coding fail from the Seeker trigger skill chains? That's not something that would show up on PWdatabase at all, since the straight statistics have not changed.There's more to making a judging than everything being in black and white. The decision making process is a puddle of grays.
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General Wurlord 2-2
Magic attack
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General Wurlord 2-3
Magic Attack
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I am going with rawrgh. he probably was hitting at a higher range than a lower range0 -
Lets see now....
Starting off I will comment on how silly it is to ask people to compare to what was before when unless you are a screenshot fanatic its doubtfull you screenshot how hard bosses hit you in TT or to that matter anywhere else so ALL evidence should be taken as is, that is true and particular to each person, so please no more comments on how lame or epic my/his/hercs gear is cause unless you have a proven screenshot from an unbiased source like a screenshot of your gear by a GM (who probably can see into your bank as well and make sure that you ARE wearing best gear, though hell if I know if they can or not) I will consider all gear you wear as irrelevant and unconnected to my own experiances.
Also, it is pointless to conpare TT experiances between classes. A barb has alot more HP than a veno or most BMs (not to mention other classes) and obviously higher defences than again most other classes (at least in the phys def area) so a barb might NOT notice that big a difference in HP loss from hits, especially if said barb is busy staying alive while soloing a boss in 3-2 (and I don't even want to hear people saying that they can multi-task with macro on bosses there, cause if you can do that you have VERY high leveled gear with high refines as well so that you can simply macro and go afk to watch your desk accumulating dust).
Speaking as an AA Veno of level 100 with level 100 herc and over 10K HP with barb buff (yes, my gear is quite high and I have good shard in it, but thats only cause I am a hybrid build designed specifically for anti-boss pve with pvp options, and no, I am only +5 refined and am willing to allow any GM or indeed other players to screenshot my gear and stats if you don't trust me at word-point.... not like I can really stop anyone from doing that eitherway...) and over 11K psyc and mag def when fully buffed (again, see previous brackets comment) and from the several TT runs I had so far (yes, before you start I know thats not enough evidence, I am just stating what I saw so far, will add more evidence with time. Unlike some people I have work, university and family to take care of, can't do 8 TT runs per day when I only have 2-4 hours of play per day/two days) I noticed several things.
1) Wulord hits far more to his higher damage range than before, proof is that up till lately I was able to solo wulord in 2-2 with simple pet pull than resummon and hit method and all I had to worry about was charm ticking once on full buffs (tested by me on my last TT run which was for 90 mats to reforge 90 gear so I can make 99 ones and that was no more than a 2-3 weeks ago cause I only got my 99 gear after expansion came but before latest update, and no, am not blaming update for anything cause I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY CHANGED OR UPDATED so unless one of the original developers, that is the main PW developers, tell us what was updated in specific I rather not say anything on that) while last 2-2 run I was already lvl 100 with full 99 +5 and gemmed with good shards and wulord still managed to 1-shot me. Still, as said by sangodoc before, wulord DOES have high range of attack so not a surprise there, but for it to happen 5 times in a row after I was ressed each time? and on first wulord at that, not even 4th? all that makes me think that damage bell curve WAS pushed slightly up, but still not overly detrimental for high levels. But what about lower levels? for them even that tiny push makes farming for mats for their 90 gear alot harder cause THEY don't have high gear yet. And no, I do not accept the argument that they should get some high levels to come help them, not all of us are in factions with 50 bored level 100 people who would love nothing better than run our TTs.
In 2-3 and onwards from the bosses I did with others (AFTER we slaughtered every single mob on the way to said boss so mob kill count was way over needed number) I did notice that some people, whom I know for certain to solo said instances before, to die more often and far quicker than they are used to. As for 1-3 boss, I haven't done him yet but if he kills me thats proof enough for me cause I tanked him in BB when I was lvl 90 with fresh ungemmed unrefined gear and only 5K hp fully buffed so at current state of affair should be quite east for me right? will post further notice on how it went when I have time to go poke it up the robe.
Sorry about this lengthly post but I hope that people stop insulting others and rather go and get actuall screenshots of their no-change solo TT runs or heavy change TT runs, gear specs included for proof of non-OP gear (I defenatly intend to add one for banisher when I do him.)I need not tell lies, I make truth happen.
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^- long tl;dr rant that didnt provide useful answers at all just another "ooooo its definitely higher" post with excessive words and no proof... yet again, plus dumb assertion of why it silly to get dmg results before and after when making the statement that dmg is different now than it was before... duh? fail topic is fail
why are there so many morons who play this game?0 -
ask urself why u play0
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the only fail is you... only typing in forums to insult others... if this topic is so fail why you even bother to type in here? need to compensate something?0
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i dont lolsecretsurprise wrote: »ask urself why u play
i stopped playing like many others because theres no new content to enjoy
content expansion was moved solely to boutique expansion despite obvious promises of new content
but it is funny in playing for over 2 yrs how ppl always make complaint about hh bosses being harder or drop rate less but nobody could ever show how.... and i purposely ask for proof cuz i know they dont have it, its an obvious lie.... remind me of fcc superstition that always came up after it was no longer mat/farm instance surrounding nix and holeen bosses0 -
After doing some TT runs and whatnot, I can see the bell curve being moved slightly as a possible explanation for all the QQ's. However, it's certainly not game breaking.Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die0 -
oh nice so master have right, u dont play but u come here to insult ppl for nothing... if that topic is fail for u, why u dont go out of it?
well, a fail that need to compensate anythings... seems to be right... but who cares? not me... rofl ur just a poor funny guy0 -
Cant agree Xarathox, if a boss i could tank before expansion easily now kills me in few seconds and that 5 times in a row, its not a slightly change... no way.0
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Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »i dont lol
i stopped playing like many others because theres no new content to enjoy
content expansion was moved solely to boutique expansion despite obvious promises of new content
but it is funny in playing for over 2 yrs how ppl always make complaint about hh bosses being harder or drop rate less but nobody could ever show how.... and i purposely ask for proof cuz i know they dont have it, its an obvious lie.... remind me of fcc superstition that always came up after it was no longer mat/farm instance surrounding nix and holeen bosses
lol too funny you come on the forums and flame everyone yet you dont play anymore.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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MasterofIce - Dreamweaver wrote: »Cant agree Xarathox, if a boss i could tank before expansion easily now kills me in few seconds and that 5 times in a row, its not a slightly change... no way.
Well, for a class not designed to tank you could see it as a major change. But for a barb, it's only a slight one since the hits aren't much more than what we'd normally see. Wurlord for example, it isn't uncommon for him to hit me for 10k+ at times. But those were usually once or twice per run. I've seen those numbers more frequently but nothing that I couldn't handle before, so still not game breaking.
DC and Steel are the two bosses acting the weirdest lately, most buffing themselves more frequently (steel) and aoe/debuffing more frequently (DC). Then again, like I stated earlier in this thread, the longer it takes to kill them the higher the chance for **** to go wrong. Been that way since the major TT change over 7 months ago. So all in all, I'm not seeing a particularly big shift in difficulty. Keeps me on my toes a bit more, but that's the fun. ^.^
The only thing about the expansion which has messed things up is that I now have 1k less hp than I did pre genesis. I haven't changed any gear in the past year and a half, so something's up with that. o.OSome people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
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right so far he have not a tank, but he did a low instance to help lower ppl there, earlier he could do that easy, now he cant anymore but now he would do it better as earlier cause some things changed on him, gear and lvl... better now, but the other side is going on... he got killed faster as he could see... so the question is ok hes not a tank but much higher as a tank that do it in lvl range for that instance, why nobody see that point? oh and as sin... u do so much high hits to kill fast... it wont take long, if he dont die. but im sure he will say things for himself, i just know him very good and we did a lots of things together and till now all worked better and better cause of higher lvl, better gear... but now... anything is wrong
oh and i forgot... the lol guy... new name *haha* u say allways we dont have a proof, rofl we cant do that proof u want... i got it, cause anything what we say, anything that some ppl give out counts of dmg and so on... u dont get it, u wont... but u dont play anymore, u came here and started to flame us for no reason and same time u cant give us the other proof... the proof about nothing changed... why? u have NOTHING! u dont have the proof that say it in the same way u try to say u need from us... and that just u didnt done screens and u cant look there where is written how much dmg a boss give out, u are not a programmer, not a gm, not a mod, rofl not a player and u cant give any actual numbers from ur big big experience... see, that make u lol, funny, poor, call it however u like, i know i told i will ignore u, but know what? i ignore u in another way the thing is, i just start to enjoy u to be lol/funny/poor... i just laugh now, what u do is sooooo... (*not rlly a good word for it, there is no word in the world*)^^ we are current player, u not, but so far we arent more... and cause of that, u can shut up cause we dont need to give U any proof, u are nothing, u are just lol, ok im sure u wont shut up, but ok, i rlly enjoy what u do... u give some laughings here, u are our thread clown... so lol, dont stop^^
But im ok so far to discuss about the tweak OR no tweak in a normal way, just guys that cant give out any normal thing... ok they getting on my nerves... but hey for all ppl with a bit good thinkings in their head that would be the same... im maybe a bit too temperamentally sometimes but that go just to ppl that provoke it normal, so who cares...0 -
I just got killed by FB19 boss.
Bosses in FBs were tweaked, DAMN YOU DEVS!!!![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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oh lol our first thread clown is back^^0
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1. No one cares
2. Nothing was changed.
3. Stop making threads everytime you die in TT insisting it was changed.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Better what u write here: no one cares
there is a change and if u dont get, its not my problem
and i dont need to stop cause this the first and better i did it never... haha
thread clowns ftw^^
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No one gets it, because it doesn't exist.
Just because you insist that there was a change, it doesn't make it true, provide some evidence of a change.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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oh how poor u cant read, maybe u should try to learn it cause u will need that im sad for u0
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Oh how poor, you can't use proper english, maybe you should learn it because people have no idea what you're saying.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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people dont know what u saying cause only what u can is flame others, seems eden is just ur other acc but anyway, poor guys^^ oh and it dont matter oh and if u want a proof... give one to us... u cant? oh, well u are just a lil poor guy, oh and u cant say u want a proof... ur so small
again im sad for u, how poor is that? but ok, u dont need anymore to stop, like i said before, its funny... do more of it0 -
Oh my god go back to kindergarden or whatever your main real life activity is. Stop messing around in forums with random ****, whatever everyone is saying. You arent excepting ANY explaination or any data, everything is just wrong to you, everything is no evidence. Well.. proof nothing has changed. Good luck.0
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oh no worries just lil poor guys like u, thats not a problem
but again something to laugh ^^ :P0
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