Common Misconceptions

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  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wikipedia is not always accurate dude

    It is true that sometimes theres the need of "an" before an h. Like on "an hour". But thats not always the case. "a herb" or "an herb" ? "a herc" or "an herc" ? That is the question b:faint

    And please lets go back to original topic
    Madness?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It is true that sometimes theres the need of "an" before an h. Like on "an hour". But thats not always the case. "a herb" or "an herb" ? "a herc" or "an herc" ? That is the question b:faint

    And please lets go back to original topic

    Lol, is he STILL going at it?

    To answer the question:
    An hour
    An herb
    A herc
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Lol, is he STILL going at it?

    To answer the question:
    An hour
    An herb
    A herc

    Nah, I really want the "a herc" or "an herc" question answered, too O_0

    So thanks b:thanks
    Madness?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It is true that sometimes theres the need of "an" before an h. Like on "an hour". But thats not always the case. "a herb" or "an herb" ? "a herc" or "an herc" ? That is the question b:faint

    And please lets go back to original topic
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Lol, is he STILL going at it?

    To answer the question:
    An hour
    An herb
    A herc

    This is an unrelated thread, are you guys stalking me? Seriously...
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This is an unrelated thread, are you guys stalking me? Seriously...

    We have just as much right to be here as you dob:bye
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This is an unrelated thread, are you guys stalking me? Seriously...

    Hi b:bye

    No, don't worry. As you can see many herc vs no herc pages ago, I had already been posting on this topic, too b:pleased

    So back to missconceptions... how about that of a venomancer's only way of luring is sending pet in? (if we don't consider genies) b:question

    Hint: It isnt
    Madness?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    We have just as much right to be here as you dob:bye

    Not to derail other threads on personal vendettas, you don't.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Not to derail other threads on personal vendettas, you don't.
    I simply asked a question.
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hi b:bye

    No, don't worry. As you can see many herc vs no herc pages ago, I had already been posting on this topic, too b:pleased

    So back to missconceptions... how about that of a venomancer's only way of luring is sending pet in? (if we don't consider genies) b:question

    Hint: It isnt

    Actually you can lure with the pet taming skill too. However, that has a shorter reach than a pet, so it's more risky :P.
  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    An heir, an hour, an herb, an honour...

    A hairball, a heart, a hard day at work, a herp-derp...

    The "h" in hercules isn't silent.

    The only people that drop all "h"s at the beginning of words are Cockney British.

    Write to Merriam-Webster and see what they say.

    Sorry I brought it up in the first place, I should have known better than to try to correct people on a crappy language that few care about and that's dying more and more by the day.

    Good day.

    EDIT (to get back on topic?): Luring with tame is excellent when soloing bosses close to your level, provided you can keep enough distance from the ones you don't want to lure; I approve.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    An heir, an hour, an herb, an honour...

    A hairball, a heart, a hard day at work, a herp-derp...

    The "h" in hercules isn't silent.

    The only people that drop all "h"s at the beginning of words are Cockney British.

    Write to Merriam-Webster and see what they say.

    Sorry I brought it up in the first place, I should have known better than to try to correct people on a crappy language that few care about and that's dying more and more by the day.

    Good day.

    You were neither trolled nor insulted, pronunciation really does differ in various regions of the English speaking world and hercules would be pronounced with a slient H in some regions of the United States. No need to get upset if someone's opinion differs from yours, forums are actually meant for discussion...
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    Actually you can lure with the pet taming skill too. However, that has a shorter reach than a pet, so it's more risky :P.

    Bingo b:victoryb:thanks
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    EDIT (to get back on topic?): Luring with tame is excellent when soloing bosses close to your level, provided you can keep enough distance from the ones you don't want to lure; I approve.

    Now go out there and spread the good news ^^
    Madness?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You did bring up one interesting point in your last tirade. Yeah, you're not actually a part of the argument, just trolling me on the point that you didn't like the challenge i issued to Kiyoshi. And the worst of it is you seem to share his inability to distinguish amongst the terms average and standard which, for the matter of this discussion, is almost the same as mistaking subjective and objective requirements... The thread's title is not "requirements to get into 1xx squads" and i wouldn't have even posted to begin with had such a thread been made. That Kiyoshi's minimum standard (not his "average" get a freaking dictionary) is to require an herc for venos has no bearing on the subject of wether one is actually required (in terms of gameplay) and neither does the fact (i'll grant you that) one is often demanded. The misconception is that an herc is needed and that's what the argument is about, wether you think it more convenient or even necessary is simply your opinion.

    Neither is the topic of this thread "Yet another herc/non-herc discussion." What's your point? And here to go again with lecturing me about hercs and venos and Kiyoshi's definition of average. Honestly, do you know how to read? Do you know how to let things go? Would you kindly buy a pick-axe and mine some lumber so you can build a bridge and get over it?

    Fine, you think the challenge is stupid, i get it. You have made the point abundantly clear. Unless you're willing to actually provide the info yourself you have no need to further pursue it as your opinion remains unimportant, since you don't seem willing to actually get involved on the thread's actual subject. "Better" doesn't mean "necessary". As far as gameplay is concerned, that you do something doesn't equate it being the most efficient way of doing it. You think 85% of us don't actually even count as players, seriously? Is that even an argument? Go post on your faction's forums then, General is for everyone. Why are you even addressing us non factors? Is it e-peen or are you just recruiting? People like you are killing the game since you're ensuring the majority of players that reach a certain level range will be met with an hostile enviroment. You can't respect the fact some of us will play without devoting an unhealthy part of our waking lives to it? Oh, but you're so leet you have to shove your standards down everybody's throat. You don't even care about gameplay efficiency at all, which should be embarrasing for someone making your claims, but you feel entitled to your opinion don't you? You're just trying to enforce your dogma and boast about who you are and what you have "accomplished".

    Well here's the hypocrisy here...My opinion may be unimportant to you, but your challenge is just as unimportant to Kiyoshi yet you nag after him to answer your stupid question. And did you miss the part where I said SOME PEOPLE only consider top players real players, or did you MISREAD it as "I ONLY CONSIDER TOP PLAYERS PEOPLE" again? I mean how do you even pass your close-reading assignments in class? What I said was I play by my own standards, and that playing by whatever standard is a personal choice. Learn to effing read before you go on a "QQ you kill the game" tirade please.

    Get out of here you useless troll, i offered you an olive branch in a generous spirit and what i got was your sick ranting in response. The proverbial throwing "pearls to pigs". No, i didn't care to look at your profile, that your main got banned very likely is for good reason... And no, i don't have to provide a link when i'm demostrating i'm actually capable of acknowledging mistakes by actually doing it. It takes the same amount of effort to properly quote as it does to use coloured text, so you're not lazy you're stupid. At the very least i was actually able to LEARN from it being pointed out to me, although in your case the process will likely take tedious repetition. And if you know the meaning to of the term hag why have you all but ignored it? There are several posts in here that prove you don't.

    I think someone ahead me already pointed out that I have as much right to be here as you. Plus I think you're the one who's trolling here, as you are obviously putting words in my mouth in every single post you've made since your only one that was shorter than a wall of text. Also, I think yea my main was banned for a very good reason...I was quitting and I intentionally got it banned. I think I succeeded. Now are you done making assumptions? Apparently not. If you actually care who people are to point out that they are posting from an alt, then check their profile. If you can't do even that, then your "argument" that they post from an alt is invalid and ****. No, you dont' HAVE to provide links, but here is the hypocrisy again...You make a challenge to Kiyo and demand that he answer it ON YOUR TERMS, but I challenged you to provide a link, and it's suddenly okay to blow it off? You can't have it both ways. I don't really care if you have sudden lapses of e-peen so you can blow off my challenge and I won't really care, but now you just look stupid if you keep pursuing your own little precious challenge to someone else.

    Okay, if it takes the same amount of effort to quote for you, then you can do that instead. Don't force your standards on me, ya hypocrite. I've used quote tags plenty of times before; I don't see how using it or not demonstrates any sort of intelligence. What exactly did you learn from quote tagging? I know exactly how annoying it is for other people to quote me when I'm using colored text. If you didn't know that before someone pointed out to you then you're stupid. Also sometimes I use this hard-to-reply-to method as way of saying "you're welcome not reply anymore."

    I haven't ignored it; it's impossible to because you keep pursuing it. Why did you say I was Kiyoshi's hag if you didn't mean I was serving him in some way? I could just be any old hag couldn't I? I actually don't think there are any posts here that prove I don't know what it means, there are only posts here which prove you keep clinging on to stupid things.

    And please, don't pretend to be so saintly with your "olive branch." Just because you call it one doesn't mean it is. What you basically said was "**** about my stupidity and I will be nice." That is not a peace offering. If you were honestly trying to offer me a peace proposal, try harder. If you were just trying to make yourself look better by telling me to **** in a sneaky way, yea, I saw through that.

    You have added nothing of value to this convo, have provided nothing but useless opinions, have proven nothing beyond being being a member of the game's "top elite" that doesn't care to actually improve the way they play. You don't care about critical thinking and discourage that someone would question what you consider established wisdom. That i doubted what you consider "self evident truth" drove you to insult and disqualification and all trying to prove what? That your kind is not as small a minority? That your levels and gears have relevance to the rest of us? Why don't you get a life instead of trying to avenge your being bullied by becoming a jerk in an online game?

    Neither have you, actually. All you did was make a stupid challenge and screech like an angry monkey at your questions not being answered. Honestly I think I've lost all my respect for you in this thread. I think this argument is quite productive, as I should have known better that not all people who type in community college format are educated, intelligent, and mature, and that was a good lesson for me. I DO care about critical thinking; I just assumed that everyone else can do it, which was an obvious mistake on my part. What is the "established wisdom" that I keep defending? I am not aware of any wisdoms I am defending. I was driven to insult because your challenge was stupid, I think we have established that. When I see stupid I say stupid. If you consider stupid an insult, boohoo for you. My "kind" is definitely a minority. How many people can you find these days who have been in a PvE TW and leveled up by grinding when BHs didn't exist yet? It was cube, WQ, and CS. We finished our first RB before we did our sage/demon culti. We actually know how to play our characters and don't QQ when our shortcomings get us denied from squads. Yea, we're a definite rarity, I agree with you there.

    I never argued that my gear and level should have any relevance to you. However, if they don't matter to you, stop commenting on them so I don't have to correct your stupidity for you. And me being bullied? Lol. I've been targeted by far more creative and entertaining trolls. You are boring, but hey I can't have noobs spreading misinformation and misquoting me all the time, so I am duty bound to correct them. b:laugh And you are pretty cute...Did you leave primary school yet, that you think of bullies and avenging yourself all the time? LOL.

    In the words of NightRage: trololololol!

    Edit: Eh, I didn't know they censored shut the **** up....
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    In the words of NightRage: trololololol!

    So you use coloured text precisely because you want to incovenience posters you're addressing? Here's an idea if you want to discourage replies, just shut up. As it is i'll acknowledge nothing of what you have posted or will write in such fashion and do reserve the right to state anything you may have replied to in such a way to have gone uncontested and unchallenged.

    And in case you may have missed the point of my peace offering it simply meant that i was giving you an out to stop flaming and discuss the issue at hand, if you're not interested by all means it's your call.
  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You were neither trolled nor insulted, pronunciation really does differ in various regions of the English speaking world and hercules would be pronounced with a slient H in some regions of the United States. No need to get upset if someone's opinion differs from yours, forums are actually meant for discussion...

    No, I wasn't trolled or insulted, nor am I upset. Languages have rules, opinions are for theories, and again I'm sorry I brought it up.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So you use coloured text precisely because you want to incovenience posters you're addressing? Here's an idea if you want to discourage replies, just shut up. As it is i'll acknowledge nothing of what you have posted or will write in such fashion and do reserve the right to state anything you may have replied to in such a way to have gone uncontested and unchallenged.

    And in case you may have missed the point of my peace offering it simply meant that i was giving you an out to stop flaming and discuss the issue at hand, if you're not interested by all means it's your call.

    Maybe you should take your own advice... and why would she even want to go out of her way to make stuff convenient for you.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So you use coloured text precisely because you want to incovenience posters you're addressing? No, I do it because I'm lazy. I said that already. Learn to read. Here's an idea if you want to discourage replies, just shut up. I will if I have nothing stupid to point out b:chuckle As it is i'll acknowledge nothing of what you have posted or will write in such fashion and do reserve the right to state anything you may have replied to in such a way to have gone uncontested and unchallenged. Well you obviously read some of my post since you're ALREADY making elementary mistakes in reading comprehension on it...again. But like I said, you're welcome to not read or not reply to anything I said. That doesn't mean everyone else will follow suit.

    And in case you may have missed the point of my peace offering it simply meant that i was giving you an out to stop flaming and discuss the issue at hand, if you're not interested by all means it's your call. I gave you an out ages ago. I just didn't have the self-righteous attitude to call it an olive branch. I am "discussing" the topic at hand + whatever is aimed at me, and I could be mistaken but your walls of butthurt were aimed at me, and it would dishonorable of me not to answer such a challenge.

    Five annoying trolls.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »
    No, I wasn't trolled or insulted, nor am I upset. Languages have rules, opinions are for theories, and again I'm sorry I brought it up.

    There is such a thing as difference in interpretation, leaving aside the fact that there are no "oficial" rules to English as there are for other languages... And for someone who claims not to be upset you do sound bitter...
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    Five annoying trolls.

    No, sorry. Go be lazy somewhere else...
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There is such a thing as difference in interpretation, leaving aside the fact that there are no "oficial" rules to English as there are for other languages... And for someone who claims not to be upset you do sound bitter...

    Give it a rest already
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No, sorry. Go be lazy somewhere else...NO U! If you can't find the courage to admit your stupidity you're welcome to simply leave the topic alone instead of post these obviously butthurt excuses. I won't get out of this topic. But I won't reply if there's nothing to reply to.

    b:laughb:laughb:laughb:laugh
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Can someone do something about this troll already?b:cold
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Can someone do something about this troll already?b:cold

    I am not a troll, I was defending myself from this flamer who called me a hag :(
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There is such a thing as difference in interpretation, leaving aside the fact that there are no "oficial" rules to English as there are for other languages... And for someone who claims not to be upset you do sound bitter...

    Stewie Griffin - "Hello, Mother. Have you hidden my hatchet?"
    Eliza Pinchley - "'Allo, Mother. 'Ave you 'idden my 'atchet?"
    Stewie Griffin - God, no! It's an "H" sound, you moron!
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    I am not a troll, I was defending myself from this flamer who called me a hag :(

    Sorry, not you. I was referring to Manrayb:shocked
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Can someone do something about this troll already?b:cold

    You insult my ethnic origin and then stalk me, and i'm the one you who's troubling you?

    @Lenore; And yeah, you're a hag.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You insult my ethnic origin and then stalk me, and i'm the one you who's troubling you?

    @Lenore; And yeah, you're a hag.

    b:laugh I refuse to go into this with you again.

    Ok I *will* ask this: what exactly did I say that "insulted your ethic origin?"
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You insult my ethnic origin and then stalk me, and i'm the one you who's troubling you?

    @Lenore; And yeah, you're a hag.

    And you're stupid.

    Next time you try to troll me, do it right instead of putting words in my mouth and then replying to that. It's more like talking to yourself than anything. And now I dont' believe you about admitting your mistakes. You're an immature hypocrite who hides his lack of logic behind fancy wording to feign education. Your "apology" probably went along the lines of "sorry I was drunk at the time," because you seem more prone to excuses than apology.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    And you're stupid.

    Next time you try to troll me, do it right instead of putting words in my mouth and then replying to that. It's more like talking to yourself than anything.

    And what words did i put in your mouth? Do you know you would actually have to quote me to prove it?
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And what words did i put in your mouth? Do you know you would actually have to quote me to prove it?

    I pointed out in the previous walls of the text exactly where you put words in my mouth.

    Off the top of my head, there's that thing about me only considering the top 15% of people real players, the fact that I am unworthy of Kiyo's squad, that I am trying to disprove that I am in the minority of players....etc. etc. And I would quote if you quote where you apologized :P Or you can just go back to being a hypocrite with double standards.

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