Oracle Noob?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Check again, first Psychic guide was written by me. Now it may've been slightly fail and needs some updating/adjustments, but pretty much everything I wrote holds true on the later guides.

if it were any good, it would have gotten stickied. As it holds, atm only 1 out of 10 guide threads are worth stickying and even then, its still incomplete. (btw guide does not mean copying the skills and descriptions word by word)

Sezan - Harshlands

I plan to oracle to 90.

Oracles make you a noob? or lacking common sense on playing a character makes you a noob?

Tough choice

1. Your not a noob if you choose a faster way to level and have common sense
2. If you cant play your character properly then learn how to

eternalnab

Sezan - Harshlands wrote: »

I plan to oracle to 90.

Oracles make you a noob? or lacking common sense on playing a character makes you a noob?

Tough choice

1. Your not a noob if you choose a faster way to level and have common sense
2. If you cant play your character properly then learn how to

Sezan - Harshlands

Cool, was it meant to be funny or what? b:sad

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Sezan - Harshlands wrote: »

Cool, was it meant to be funny or what? b:sad

he probably meant to say that some skill/experience comes by common sense, and the other half actually comes by playing the game aside from oracling.

Sezan - Harshlands

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

he probably meant to say that some skill/experience comes by common sense, and the other half actually comes by playing the game aside from oracling.

Uhh ok

Skill/exp comes by common sense
Other half in my case comes from PvP

Example I am a lvl 59 Veno 'soon to be 9x b:chuckle',

1. I know which skills to level first and which to not get 'funny to see eg venos with fox attacking skills when they are AA' b:thanks'
2. I know the perfect build for veno endgame and during the game

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary

a veno that oracles is still gonna have to grind its butt off sometime.. unless you want no pets?

Nukesrus - Harshlands

Sezan - Harshlands wrote: »

Uhh ok

Skill/exp comes by common sense
Other half in my case comes from PvP

Example I am a lvl 59 Veno 'soon to be 9x b:chuckle',

1. I know which skills to level first and which to not get 'funny to see eg venos with fox attacking skills when they are AA' b:thanks'
2. I know the perfect build for veno endgame and during the game

Ok, now without googling can you walk me through how to get your 79 skills without cash or cat shopping the necessary items?

haybails

Reading through, some people suggest that leveling fast guarantees a fail build. 100% of the time? I seriously doubt it. A new class is introduced... level fast surely means 100% chance of a fail build... I seriously doubt it. Level at regular pace in this case means a winning build 100% of the time? Do I really need to say I seriously doubt it.

Those that level up faster have got the chance to try later skills sooner than those that level slower. Gaining some experience of how the skills work, the effects and if they level fast with friends (who may already play at a higher level or level with them), they can play and experiment the effects against other skills and classes just the same. (Note I am not differentiating between those that use oracles or play 16 hours a day). They can join squads later for FB/BH without a problem, if the squad is regular, lure, tank, dd... If the squad is irregular, as with anyone else, they can use the earlier mobs to trial.

Then comes TW, where everyone will learn something new regardless. Evens chance that a good build and tactics will genuinely reveal itself specifically for this, if the new class wipes all with the right tactics, who wins? The faction with the faster leveler with the tactics sorted. If the new class doesn't kill all, things remain even, then it is no loss either way.

All depends how you enjoy playing the game, against which type of quest etc. People are seen to experiment with different builds for different classes, it is a way they find extra enjoyment, sometimes these builds don't work out at all, sometimes they do better than just alright. Ok, that is digressing a bit but I'm sure you understand the meaning.

Are oracles fail? Do they make for noobs? Not necessarily.

Does a slow leveler guarantee against being a noob? Not necessarily.

What is wrong with oracles? It is only the fact that they have been cash shop items.

Nelae - Heavens Tear

/Bumps in to the thread

^^ since Rose and Decep said it all to well.
I just have a thought to throw.
Lv80(70)+ sins/psy who oracle their way here on HT absolutely have no clue what so ever. Their performance in squads is more then crappy, and dont make me start on PvP.
I mean if a lv59 sin/psy can surprise me with good combos that makes me scared of what would happen if they were my level unlike sins/psy who oracled and are just a big laugh.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Sezan - Harshlands wrote: »

Uhh ok
1. I know which skills to level first and which to not get 'funny to see eg venos with fox attacking skills when they are AA' b:thanks'

Oh? You mean like purge and amp? Befuddling mist? Stuff that actually helps the squad, whatever your armor type?

Nukesrus - Harshlands

Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

/Bumps in to the thread

^^ since Rose and Decep said it all to well.
I just have a thought to throw.
Lv80(70)+ sins/psy who oracle their way here on HT absolutely have no clue what so ever. Their performance in squads is more then crappy, and dont make me start on PvP.
I mean if a lv59 sin/psy can surprise me with good combos that makes me scared of what would happen if they were my level unlike sins/psy who oracled and are just a big laugh.

Actually, to switch sides for a moment, my roommate oracled his sin up to level 39 and was quite good in a squad. He even abused the purifying nature of force stealth, buffed the squad, and watched his aggro.

Now, he does have a 6x archer, but I was thoroughly impressed at his utility for not having all that much XP as a sin.

Nelae - Heavens Tear

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

Actually, to switch sides for a moment, my roommate oracled his sin up to level 39 and was quite good in a squad. He even abused the purifying nature of force stealth, buffed the squad, and watched his aggro.

Now, he does have a 6x archer, but I was thoroughly impressed at his utility for not having all that much XP as a sin.

Dont get me wrong, I have nothing against oracles, even i have them from my constant AoE grind (yes they drop often).
But how you use them. If you skip 80 levels of any squad activity grinding or in general learning you will fail....fact proven by all the mighty high level TB.
Now if you use them as a help to level, and still do the general stuff. You will prolly do good.

As someone said grinding to get to high levels wont be 100% of success, but i guarantee oracleing to high levels will be 100% fail

Sezan - Harshlands

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oh? You mean like purge and amp? Befuddling mist? Stuff that actually helps the squad, whatever your armor type?

I didnt say debuff's I said fox attacking skills b:victory

Sezan - Harshlands

Nukesrus - Harshlands wrote: »

Ok, now without googling can you walk me through how to get your 79 skills without cash or cat shopping the necessary items?

Aww double post =(

bh89 b:chuckle

Yes I will level my pets obviously :P, but getting to a higher level 1 hitting mobs at your pets level is much easier.

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary

anyone with a search function could figure that out.. but 89 isnt the only place where u can get them.

Sezan - Harshlands

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary wrote: »

anyone with a search function could figure that out.. but 89 isnt the only place where u can get them.

I didn't search that. I know because I do bh89 or my other account b:byeb:surrender

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

just depends on who uses it. You can be sure if its one of those gloating fools, 'lookit mee im uberz if i oraclez' kinda guys, theyll most likely fail and not even notice it sadly because their so full of themselves. If you get someone who actually works to understand their class after theyve oracled, then yeah they got some good hope. Sadly those type area rare to find.

For me theres 2 types of FAILS related to oracles:

1) Gloating oracle fools that are so full of themselves they think skill is handed down to them along with the oracled sp and exp per mob.

2) Oracle haters who, leave the squad the second an oracled tideborn joins (fh/bh or whatevers) They are worst off than #1 above for making a biased decision based on assumption without seeing any evidence.

JollyJaguar - Sanctuary

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary wrote: »

anyone with a search function could figure that out.. but 89 isnt the only place where u can get them.

TT80 b:victory

(Thats 1-3 and 2-2 for the ones that ... dont know)

Sezan - Harshlands

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

just depends on who uses it. You can be sure if its one of those gloating fools, 'lookit mee im uberz if i oraclez' kinda guys, theyll most likely fail and not even notice it sadly because their so full of themselves. If you get someone who actually works to understand their class after theyve oracled, then yeah they got some good hope. Sadly those type area rare to find.

For me theres 2 types of FAILS related to oracles:

1) Gloating oracle fools that are so full of themselves they think skill is handed down to them along with the oracled sp and exp per mob.

2) Oracle haters who, leave the squad the second an oracled tideborn joins (fh/bh or whatevers) They are worst off than #1 above for making a biased decision based on assumption without seeing any evidence.

I agree with what you said, oracles don't make you the best, knowing how to play your character makes you the best, oracle noobs don't always fail - although I have seen some myself who have failed lol.

Quilue - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

just depends on who uses it. You can be sure if its one of those gloating fools, 'lookit mee im uberz if i oraclez' kinda guys, theyll most likely fail and not even notice it sadly because their so full of themselves. If you get someone who actually works to understand their class after theyve oracled, then yeah they got some good hope. Sadly those type area rare to find.

For me theres 2 types of FAILS related to oracles:

1) Gloating oracle fools that are so full of themselves they think skill is handed down to them along with the oracled sp and exp per mob.

2) Oracle haters who, leave the squad the second an oracled tideborn joins (fh/bh or whatevers) They are worst off than #1 above for making a biased decision based on assumption without seeing any evidence.

aawwww has poor Deceptipoo had people ditch on her because she has a high lvl Tideborn?

ish ok get qui wont leave ur bh squads

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

aawwww has poor Deceptipoo had people ditch on her because she has a high lvl Tideborn?

ish ok get qui wont leave ur bh squads

Go do your dailies for christ sakes >O astypoo says u havnt done CS in 3 weeks!
*punts Qui*

edit* nah that happened on my other old class. Pple left cause a high TB joined. Me does me own TB BH ;d

Quilue - Sanctuary

halp! Deceptipoo ish abusing me b:sad

oxytorch

Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »

So it makes me a noob that i choose to lvl faster then normal? i think not?

Ran out of money ??? b:laugh b:laugh
b:chuckle

Ganden - Sanctuary

LudaSihron - Lost City wrote: »

Ya made 61 in 4~5days,but im sure you got ZERO experience about the other parts of this game imo.
Some people are thinking about levels only..gosh,there are other things to enjoy,
instead of watching "you've reached xx level!" lols.

Long time ago i met a guy in City of Plume,he was 'plzzzz'ing' around and i asked him with what he needs help,
then he said,help me to hit lvl80..i suggested him to hit it slowly so he can learn more than levelling.

So people,u can buy levels but knowledge,u get it together with time,not with $ or oracles!

I Mean,whats the point of levelling when u dont even know how to craft a gear or something simple like that?

Well actually i am familiar with the game, i have a lv 87 bm

Killahoe - Harshlands

Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »

So it makes me a noob that i choose to lvl faster then normal? i think not?

Seriously who cares?

Ill tell you , the players who play the game for free.

It all comes down to jealosly because they carnt do it themselves.

All these peple should be happy that money is being pumped into this game so they can play.

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear

Killahoe - Harshlands wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

Ill tell you , the players who play the game for free.

It all comes down to jealosly because they carnt do it themselves.

All these peple should be happy that money is being pumped into this game so they can play.

When you people stop thinking its jealousy you may understand why oracle hatred exists.

ImFunding - Lost City

11 pages b:shocked
Well, I myself look at it like this:
Love to play for free, but fact is: servers cost money. If there wouldn`t be CS-'abusers' pwi would prolly close sooner or later b:surrender
So, if u see a oracle noob think like this:
- He pays for ur pwi-experience
- Easy PK > lack of training
- More variety in game-play during FB's/BH's tw and so on
- ...

Bottom line:
All ways look at the bright side of live! b:laugh

Edit*: [Note] I myself don`t abuse oracles

Dinysucuras - Sanctuary

i spend a metric f-k ton of rl money in the cs. i can afford to, but i still choose not to buy my lvls.

and lol @ OP. you've gone from 50 to 71 in a week, and posting elsewhere how experienced you are? and how you wanna do rb? lol. rb is nothing like oracle spawns. anybody who takes you to an rb should expect epic fail.

haybails

Dinysucuras - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol @ OP. you've gone from 50 to 71 in a week, and posting elsewhere how experienced you are? and how you wanna do rb? lol. rb is nothing like oracle spawns. anybody who takes you to an rb should expect epic fail.

Same for anyone, at least the first few times they enter RB, irrespective...