what dmg? i made it to 18k power on ptr now and it cant even compete with my dmg on live.
Wait until gear gets a second pass.
Was on the PTR last night at lvl 61 critting Intimidation for 80k+ Sure this is a dummy but 20% more damage and then lets wait until Drow gear gets a buff.
Or you can go Destroyer and with the new rank 4 Destroyer feat, you can see some crazy numbers. See the GWF thread about this.
Overall, we dont need just a 20% increase to weapon damage. We need a 100% increase to AT WILL DAMAGE and then the penalty for at wills removed in unstoppable.
The "gap" in damage between at wills and encounters is just stupid right now. YOu feel like swinging a wet noodle until you can IBS or Intimidation then if it hits AND crits its a Train going 200 MPH on your face....
When I swing a 2H sword I want it to feel like a 2H sword.
I go on my 2.5k Power PROT GF and at will a dummy for 1800. My sure strike hits dummies for 1200 with 14k Power. Tell me how that physics works out at alll
Was on the PTR last night at lvl 61 critting Intimidation for 80k+ Sure this is a dummy but 20% more damage and then lets wait until Drow gear gets a buff.
Or you can go Destroyer and with the new rank 4 Destroyer feat, you can see some crazy numbers. See the GWF thread about this.
Overall, we dont need just a 20% increase to weapon damage. We need a 100% increase to AT WILL DAMAGE and then the penalty for at wills removed in unstoppable.
The "gap" in damage between at wills and encounters is just stupid right now. YOu feel like swinging a wet noodle until you can IBS or Intimidation then if it hits AND crits its a Train going 200 MPH on your face....
When I swing a 2H sword I want it to feel like a 2H sword.
I go on my 2.5k Power PROT GF and at will a dummy for 1800. My sure strike hits dummies for 1200 with 14k Power. Tell me how that physics works out at alll
Weapon damage increase won't affect intimidation the slightest. All its base damage is from power and power alone. Weapon damage doesn't play a part.
Weapon damage increase won't affect intimidation the slightest. All its base damage is from power and power alone. Weapon damage doesn't play a part.
Very True. However many discussions in the GWF world have been swapping Intimidation FROM power TO weapon damage. With lvl 70 gear and rank 12s youll be able to stack a CRAZY high number for Power. You will get less % dmg yes, but stacking 30k Power will mean a 10k BASE damage which is much higher. Also the Intimidation issue currently is that it forces Sentinels (Tanks) to HAVE to stack Power (DPS stat) to be effective. So its counter-productive to allow this as a "tanking tool" when its clearly not being used as such.
Making it % weapon damage prevents crazy scaling as well as allowing those sentinels to stack defensive stats to you know... tank better.
But yes, you are correct. weapon damage wont help that niche build. Itll just make destroyers hit crazy hard IBS.
Hey guys, the stat curves are getting a second balancing pass. As a general rule of thumb now at level 70 all of your stats should be more competitive against each other.
As a soft rule, 400 Points in any stat is worth 1% of whatever it does (Deflect Rating into Deflect Chance for example).
Additionally, we are buffing the Cooldown Reduction portion of recovery to make it fall more in line with what its expected performance should be. Every 200 points will generate 1% shorter cooldowns (keep in mind that 100% CDR actually cuts your cooldowns in half).
I don't know yet when these changes will hit preview, but they should make statting a much simpler thing to do going forward.
High Vizier's 4 Piece bonus at 3 stacks is now only ~3.5% buff/debuff. Time to go buy a T1 set I guess.
Also as a minor update we are updating Great Weapon Fighter weapon damage to be roughly 20% higher. This should hit at the same time as updated stat curves.
Hey guys, the stat curves are getting a second balancing pass. As a general rule of thumb now at level 70 all of your stats should be more competitive against each other.
As a soft rule, 400 Points in any stat is worth 1% of whatever it does (Deflect Rating into Deflect Chance for example).
Additionally, we are buffing the Cooldown Reduction portion of recovery to make it fall more in line with what its expected performance should be. Every 200 points will generate 1% shorter cooldowns (keep in mind that 100% CDR actually cuts your cooldowns in half).
I don't know yet when these changes will hit preview, but they should make statting a much simpler thing to do going forward.
Feedback:
- Technically the "buff" to Recovery doesn't make it any better than its live version. At 2k Recovery, we get roughly 16.5% Recharge Speed. With the changes you guys intend for Recovery, 2k will become 10%. That's a huge nerf. And if we need 400 points to effectively increase our stat percentages by 1%, I'm not really sure anymore how exactly we are going to efficiently stack the stats we need on our builds. I usually agree with the changes you guys impose upon the game, but this is just too cruel for stat stacking.
These changes would take the fun out of creating specialized builds, specially those that relied on utility stats such as Recovery. I've seen very creative builds that relied on deflect, movement, recovery, AP gain, Control Bonus and the likes, but this change would make stacking stats pretty much unintelligent and unreliable if this pushes through. Right now, it doesn't seem as graceful as the opening posts claim it would be.
Not to mention HP, the most OP stat right now in live (and still in the future, in case this pushes through), is still unaffected by diminishing returns. This will essentially be the go-to stat now that stacking other stats no longer gives any reliable benefits.
I understand that these changes are needed to tone down the insane DPS people are dishing out with their beatstick builds, but at the very least, if you guys are seriously planning on imposing such a cruel change for stat stacking, please give us alternative ways to earn the stat percentages we need. If this will be done via equipment, then our equips will need to have FAR more stat points than they currently have in live.
Anyway, I usually do not say things like these but this is very concerning. I'm just wishing for favorable updates regarding this.
Feedback:
- Technically the "buff" to Recovery doesn't make it any better than its live version. At 2k Recovery, we get roughly 16.5% Recharge Speed. With the changes you guys intend for Recovery, 2k will become 10%. That's a huge nerf. And if we need 400 points to effectively increase our stat percentages by 1%, I'm not really sure anymore how exactly we are going to efficiently stack the stats we need on our builds. I usually agree with the changes you guys impose upon the game, but this is just too cruel for stat stacking.
These changes would take the fun out of creating specialized builds, specially those that relied on utility stats such as Recovery. I've seen very creative builds that relied on deflect, movement, recovery, AP gain, Control Bonus and the likes, but this change would make stacking stats pretty much unintelligent and unreliable if this pushes through. Right now, it doesn't seem as graceful as the opening posts claim it would be.
Not to mention HP, the most OP stat right now in live (and still in the future, in case this pushes through), is still unaffected by diminishing returns. This will essentially be the go-to stat now that stacking other stats no longer gives any reliable benefits.
I understand that these changes are needed to tone down the insane DPS people are dishing out with their beatstick builds, but at the very least, if you guys are seriously planning on imposing such a cruel change for stat stacking, please give us alternative ways to earn the stat percentages we need. If this will be done via equipment, then our equips will need to have FAR more stat points than they currently have in live.
Anyway, I usually do not say things like these but this is very concerning. I'm just wishing for favorable updates regarding this.
We will eventually be releasing gear that gets you back there, but not at launch of module 6. One of our primary goals with the new curves was give us better control over an end game progression and a longer time scale with which to deliver meaningful upgrades and content
stat change is good. been roflstomping everything since mod2 and I'm not even BiS enchants and artis back then. no more soft-capping every stat finally.
With the value of stats decreasing I thought that it might be the case that non-augment pets might finally find some use. So I did some testing and found that, no, just about every companion I have is completely useless even at Legendary level. Level 70 enemies either crush them, or ignore them.
For example, I ran around the Drowned Shores with a Legendary upgraded Galeb Dhur summoned and ACT running. Over a period of time doing quests and HE's I inflicted 23.3 million damage and took 636k damage. The Galeb Dhur inflicted 163k damage (0.7% of my damage output) and absorbed 35,620 damage (5.6% of the damage I took). I believe most of the damage the Galeb Dhur took was when he stood in an AoE that was targeting me and I got hit anyway. So it's not like he actually took very many hits for me. In short, in a region with level 60+ enemies an expensive, upgraded zen store companion is a walking pile of uselessness. It can't deal damage, can't draw aggro, and wouldn't be able to keep aggro if it could draw it.
Most companions are just hood ornaments. They look nice while not doing anything functionally useful. That's not unique to tanks. Every non-tank companion has the problem of dying almost instantly any time there's an actual tough fight.
Please consider re-working companions so that they can serve a function at level 70. They have their uses while leveling, but the enemies have gotten so strong and deal so much damage that companions are worthless after someone hits level 60.
I cannot for several reasons. The first of which is that revealing underlying math that controls the game (a la stat curves) would get me in pretty serious trouble. Second reason is that they are substantially more complex to better allow us to tune them on a level by level basis. Each stat curve has additional variables that let us tune or scale how good the curves are for particular level brackets or even particular levels. This gives us a level of control that we did not have with the old flat curves where any change would affect the whole game and made tweaking them far more difficult. With the new curves we can selectively turn a lot more dials and get stats performing where we want them an individual level basis. To accurately graph these curves I would need a better way to communicate 3 and 4 dimensional graphs in visual form. As pretty as 3D graphs are, they aren't very useful for much beyond looking at overall trends
We will eventually be releasing gear that gets you back there, but not at launch of module 6. One of our primary goals with the new curves was give us better control over an end game progression and a longer time scale with which to deliver meaningful upgrades and content. Your gear now has far more room to grow than it ever did before in the old system, without becoming wildly more complicated. It is also worth keeping in mind that your raw power (damage dealt/healed or effective health as the case may be) are going up pretty drastically in these 10 levels as a factor of how steeply weapon damage has increased as well as how we are granting HP going forward. While your raw crit chance is going down, this is not a relative measure of how powerful you are any more because everything else that feeds into critical chance is changing as well. Overall you *are* getting much stronger, and will have far more room to grow and improve that power.
Look. Let's be BRUTALLY HONEST for a moment.
This has been the party line for forever. Yet it has lead to the very things you claim to be correcting. I remember when I build a GF Tactician Build that could essentially function as a CW in Malabog's Castle. That enabled parties to take fewer CWs into parties and run a more rainbow spread. I know, because I farmed MC every day.
The next release, presto, Cyrptic said the very same things you are saying now, but obliterated the value of Tacticians and GFs completely. Overnight, though you said the same as you said above, it all became about CW DPS builds. All other classes need not apply.
I mean, I run CN now, for nostalgia, because you can't make the instance useful. (Why?) I can do it with no CW, because my DC can function as such. Do this, and no. Instantly, CN is rendered back into a 4-5 CW instance. No other class need apply. It's the same as when you nerfed eternal singularity. You made worse the very same community behavior you claimed you were trying to curb. This would be literally the 4th time you've tried to do the same thing and gotten the opposite outcome. You will get *again* the same contrary outcome.
If you want to open up content to NON CONTROL WIZARDS nerfing AP and RECOVERY is the last thing to do. The more you do that, the more we stack CWs. I could solo CW or take (cheerfully) non SS CWs into MC. I wanted that Artifact but would farm the whole dungeon regardless. The day you nerfed Malestrum was the day I stopped farming, and now the instance is Guild Only. How does that help anything?
Look, you want money from me? I want sexy fashion gear and better dyes on the Zen Market.
Additionally, we are buffing the Cooldown Reduction portion of recovery to make it fall more in line with what its expected performance should be. Every 200 points will generate 1% shorter cooldowns (keep in mind that 100% CDR actually cuts your cooldowns in half).
This might be a good time to step away from increasing the rate. It makes more sense to just reduce the cooldown times because it is easier to understand. This is especially true when translations (like the German translation) are talking about reduced times not rates, which is clearly wrong.
This might be a good time to step away from increasing the rate. It makes more sense to just reduce the cooldown times because it is easier to understand. This is especially true when translations (like the German translation) are talking about reduced times not rates, which is clearly wrong.
3. Effective recharge speed with 10k recovery (which is possible on Live) + CW Draconic set buff:
10k recovery = 50 RSI%, CW Draconic set buff = +10 RSI%
Current system: 20 / (1 + 60/100) = 12.5
Proposed system: 20 / (1 - 60/100) = 8
In the proposed system the best stat to stack would be recovery, since you could reach a point where you could play using only your encounters, which would result in more DPS than any +dmg% you can get from power or other sources.
With increase in artifact & enchantment levels, greater kits, and the new gear that will be introduced you should be able to reach 80%+ RSI if you focus on stacking recovery.
A curve using 1/x is an asymptote. It's used to create diminish return curve in x/(1+x).
In the case of cooldown reduction, we have a DR for Recovery rating followed by an asymptote for the cooldown. Both working in the same manner. It's easy to think that it's twice more punishing but it's not really the case.
If the cooldown reduction was linear new cooldown = old cooldown*(1-x), the cooldown would reach 0s at 100%.
With a curse like : new cooldown = old cooldown/(1 + reduction), it's impossible to reach 0. At 100%, it reduce the cooldown by 2.
In short:
+ using a linear curve for Cooldown reduction give it an hard cap where it's impossible to go after 100% reduction.
+ using an asymptote curve give the possibility to go after 100%.
If you want an intuitive way to interpret cooldown reduction just call it "increased activations per a minute"
activations per a minute = activations per a minute * (1+x)
where X is your current cool down reduction. If you have a "100%" cool down reduction" in fact you have 100% more activations per a minute. There wasn't that easy to interpret!
As it stands now there is no reason to choose Defense over HP in any situation. Even with the above announcement that 400 defense will equal 1% DR (before it was 393.5, so that would actually be worse), it is still just vastly inferior to HP.
Here's the math:
Let's say I have 50,000 HP, and 0 Defense. If I add 100 Defense, my effective HP becomes 50,000/(1-1/400) = 50,125. Alternatively, I can add 400 HP and make my effective HP 50,400. Which is quite a bit better an effective HP than if I had added defense. The value of HP is so much higher, in fact, that the break-even point is 159,600. That is, If I had 159,600 HP then adding 100 defense will be equivalent to adding 400 HP in terms of effective HP. So people should only stack HP up to that point before they even consider adding defense.
Now I understand that the goal is to prevent characters, especially non-tanks, from becoming too tanky. But defense needs to be made somewhat competitive with HP, especially for classes that are supposed to be more durable. I think at a minimum you need to give GF's, Guardian OP's, and GWF's better defense curves than you give to CW's, SW's, TR's, and DC's. My CW should need to hide behind a tank to stay safe. But there's really no way for a GF to get the durability they need to do their job properly with the slope of the Defense Curve.
agreed def should be improved on gwf ,gf or hp as stat should be removed from , cw ,tr,dc,sw gear
Hey guys, the stat curves are getting a second balancing pass. As a general rule of thumb now at level 70 all of your stats should be more competitive against each other.
As a soft rule, 400 Points in any stat is worth 1% of whatever it does (Deflect Rating into Deflect Chance for example).
Additionally, we are buffing the Cooldown Reduction portion of recovery to make it fall more in line with what its expected performance should be. Every 200 points will generate 1% shorter cooldowns (keep in mind that 100% CDR actually cuts your cooldowns in half).
I don't know yet when these changes will hit preview, but they should make statting a much simpler thing to do going forward.
If I'm understanding this right you basically take stat/400 or stat/200 to get the % bonus. So 10000/400 = 25%?
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Feedback: GF damage resistance and powers I haven't ported my GF over to preview to look at this, but off the top of my head, both Martial Mastery (Tactician capstone) and Into the Fray have effects that are based directly on the GF's damage resistance, so reducing damage resistance is a nerf to these abilities, intentionally or not.
Feedback - Lifesteal The change to Lifesteal here makes it feel like kick to warlocks nuts. In the new map with gear which focusing on def, life steal, power I have to take trash mobs one on one, like it would be boss class monsters...
Before this slight change, I could use BoVA to take trashes, or just damage them. Now I have to run/shift away as fast I can when more than 4 mobs start hitting me. if I face 3 mobs who hitting from range, I already know that I am doomed. Even if my warlock hit back, life steal is not good enough to survive. More less I Holding Hp potions shortcut all time.
I like challenges, and in some time in Live server where to easy, but this change is little bit to drastically. warlock don't have instant CC skills, and even current ones, takes to many long formality. While you do it, you get killed. Even if use "Accursed soul" daily power, I get killed. It drain HP from mobs and regenerate my one. But in that time warlock get killed.
I think the classes who lack CC should get slight life steal or regeneration boost. After all the ones with CC get more survivability.
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Hey guys, the stat curves are getting a second balancing pass. As a general rule of thumb now at level 70 all of your stats should be more competitive against each other.
As a soft rule, 400 Points in any stat is worth 1% of whatever it does (Deflect Rating into Deflect Chance for example).
Additionally, we are buffing the Cooldown Reduction portion of recovery to make it fall more in line with what its expected performance should be. Every 200 points will generate 1% shorter cooldowns (keep in mind that 100% CDR actually cuts your cooldowns in half).
I don't know yet when these changes will hit preview, but they should make statting a much simpler thing to do going forward.
I wonder when'll you look AT SW's, you are buffing all others classes and keeping SW's as free kill and unwanted on pve.
I play a CW, Oppressor MoF build, and it has served me very well over the past year. I pulled her over onto the test server to see how badly the changes would actually be with my particular build. I currently have 1938 Defense, and 1645 Lifesteal in my stat allocations. This has allowed me to work quite well in the past on keeping mobs under control and simultaneously keeping myself alive. I entered the new area and started running encounters, playing with mobs, running various quests, etc. Then I hit level 61... And now I'm seriously feeling as squishy as a brand new 60 trying to run VT in greens... My life steal chance went down to 4% (yes, you read that correctly... and it had been at 16% previously,) and the damage resistance chance dropped significantly as well. If leveling continues in this vein, I expect my life steal chance to be around 0.1% when I hit 70, and I'm estimating generously.
I agree that content should be considered challenging as you level up, but I do NOT think that causing stats to decrease (which seems a form of punishment for leveling up) should be the way to do it. It seemed that the minute I hit 61, my threat level skyrocketed, and my survivability tanked. I mean, seriously... Please, please, please take another look at how badly players in PvE will be affected by these changes BEFORE this goes live. I'm afraid that the game will lose numerous players if things are kept as-is.
The regen change and the life steal random proc is abit creepy for me as a pvp player. I rely alot on regen to keep me healthy, or atleast alittle bit healthier. And a random life steal proc feels abit meeh, also if a cleric just throws up a empowered astral shield, then he just killed my life steal by a 100% unless i do a shocking execution which penetrates that shield and somehow i get super lucky and manage to proc a life steal out of that. I have abit of doubt towards these changes when it comes to PVP.
I play a CW, Oppressor MoF build, and it has served me very well over the past year. I pulled her over onto the test server to see how badly the changes would actually be with my particular build. I currently have 1938 Defense, and 1645 Lifesteal in my stat allocations. This has allowed me to work quite well in the past on keeping mobs under control and simultaneously keeping myself alive. I entered the new area and started running encounters, playing with mobs, running various quests, etc. Then I hit level 61... And now I'm seriously feeling as squishy as a brand new 60 trying to run VT in greens... My life steal chance went down to 4% (yes, you read that correctly... and it had been at 16% previously,) and the damage resistance chance dropped significantly as well. If leveling continues in this vein, I expect my life steal chance to be around 0.1% when I hit 70, and I'm estimating generously.
I agree that content should be considered challenging as you level up, but I do NOT think that causing stats to decrease (which seems a form of punishment for leveling up) should be the way to do it. It seemed that the minute I hit 61, my threat level skyrocketed, and my survivability tanked. I mean, seriously... Please, please, please take another look at how badly players in PvE will be affected by these changes BEFORE this goes live. I'm afraid that the game will lose numerous players if things are kept as-is.
+1 to this GF/GWF should get 1% DR each 200 def points
Id rather have them give more value to AC since its REALLY undervalued in this game.
AC should be nearly a 1:1 or like a 3:2 AC:DR.
Also AC should work the exact SAME on EVERY class.
Tanky classes already get MUCH more AC than others. For instance:
My GF has 37.5 AC but it only gives me 13.5% DR?!
My 60 DC has 21 AC and this gives 5.5%
My Sent GWF has 34 AC but 12% DR
Soo tankier Classes already have built in more AC. This will ESPECIALLY become more important with more and more player able to reach really high values of armor pen. PVE characters will be TARGETING 80% ARP!
THE DR CAP is 80%!?
If we want a way to prevent 1 shotting in PVP Giving AC much more value gives tank classes much better DR.
At a 3:2 value I would get a boost to nearly 25% DR (up from 13.5%) from AC alone.
On my GWF I would be at 22.67% DR (up from 12)
On my DC I would be at 14% DR
See the difference? This helps make up for the Defense nerf AS WELL AS the ARP buff, because frankly given these values DR wont mean anything in PVP.
If PVE content is too easy, just buff their damage equal to the % increase in DR. BOOM PVE stays the same. PVP is now MORE balanced.
GCrush - man you guys gotta get gear updated so these one-time testers will realize it's not all doom and gloom.
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Wait until gear gets a second pass.
Was on the PTR last night at lvl 61 critting Intimidation for 80k+ Sure this is a dummy but 20% more damage and then lets wait until Drow gear gets a buff.
Or you can go Destroyer and with the new rank 4 Destroyer feat, you can see some crazy numbers. See the GWF thread about this.
Overall, we dont need just a 20% increase to weapon damage. We need a 100% increase to AT WILL DAMAGE and then the penalty for at wills removed in unstoppable.
The "gap" in damage between at wills and encounters is just stupid right now. YOu feel like swinging a wet noodle until you can IBS or Intimidation then if it hits AND crits its a Train going 200 MPH on your face....
When I swing a 2H sword I want it to feel like a 2H sword.
I go on my 2.5k Power PROT GF and at will a dummy for 1800. My sure strike hits dummies for 1200 with 14k Power. Tell me how that physics works out at alll
Weapon damage increase won't affect intimidation the slightest. All its base damage is from power and power alone. Weapon damage doesn't play a part.
Very True. However many discussions in the GWF world have been swapping Intimidation FROM power TO weapon damage. With lvl 70 gear and rank 12s youll be able to stack a CRAZY high number for Power. You will get less % dmg yes, but stacking 30k Power will mean a 10k BASE damage which is much higher. Also the Intimidation issue currently is that it forces Sentinels (Tanks) to HAVE to stack Power (DPS stat) to be effective. So its counter-productive to allow this as a "tanking tool" when its clearly not being used as such.
Making it % weapon damage prevents crazy scaling as well as allowing those sentinels to stack defensive stats to you know... tank better.
But yes, you are correct. weapon damage wont help that niche build. Itll just make destroyers hit crazy hard IBS.
High Vizier's 4 Piece bonus at 3 stacks is now only ~3.5% buff/debuff. Time to go buy a T1 set I guess.
Thanks.
Sounds good.
Feedback:
- Technically the "buff" to Recovery doesn't make it any better than its live version. At 2k Recovery, we get roughly 16.5% Recharge Speed. With the changes you guys intend for Recovery, 2k will become 10%. That's a huge nerf. And if we need 400 points to effectively increase our stat percentages by 1%, I'm not really sure anymore how exactly we are going to efficiently stack the stats we need on our builds. I usually agree with the changes you guys impose upon the game, but this is just too cruel for stat stacking.
These changes would take the fun out of creating specialized builds, specially those that relied on utility stats such as Recovery. I've seen very creative builds that relied on deflect, movement, recovery, AP gain, Control Bonus and the likes, but this change would make stacking stats pretty much unintelligent and unreliable if this pushes through. Right now, it doesn't seem as graceful as the opening posts claim it would be.
Not to mention HP, the most OP stat right now in live (and still in the future, in case this pushes through), is still unaffected by diminishing returns. This will essentially be the go-to stat now that stacking other stats no longer gives any reliable benefits.
I understand that these changes are needed to tone down the insane DPS people are dishing out with their beatstick builds, but at the very least, if you guys are seriously planning on imposing such a cruel change for stat stacking, please give us alternative ways to earn the stat percentages we need. If this will be done via equipment, then our equips will need to have FAR more stat points than they currently have in live.
Anyway, I usually do not say things like these but this is very concerning. I'm just wishing for favorable updates regarding this.
stat change is good. been roflstomping everything since mod2 and I'm not even BiS enchants and artis back then. no more soft-capping every stat finally.
With the value of stats decreasing I thought that it might be the case that non-augment pets might finally find some use. So I did some testing and found that, no, just about every companion I have is completely useless even at Legendary level. Level 70 enemies either crush them, or ignore them.
For example, I ran around the Drowned Shores with a Legendary upgraded Galeb Dhur summoned and ACT running. Over a period of time doing quests and HE's I inflicted 23.3 million damage and took 636k damage. The Galeb Dhur inflicted 163k damage (0.7% of my damage output) and absorbed 35,620 damage (5.6% of the damage I took). I believe most of the damage the Galeb Dhur took was when he stood in an AoE that was targeting me and I got hit anyway. So it's not like he actually took very many hits for me. In short, in a region with level 60+ enemies an expensive, upgraded zen store companion is a walking pile of uselessness. It can't deal damage, can't draw aggro, and wouldn't be able to keep aggro if it could draw it.
Most companions are just hood ornaments. They look nice while not doing anything functionally useful. That's not unique to tanks. Every non-tank companion has the problem of dying almost instantly any time there's an actual tough fight.
Please consider re-working companions so that they can serve a function at level 70. They have their uses while leveling, but the enemies have gotten so strong and deal so much damage that companions are worthless after someone hits level 60.
Look. Let's be BRUTALLY HONEST for a moment.
This has been the party line for forever. Yet it has lead to the very things you claim to be correcting. I remember when I build a GF Tactician Build that could essentially function as a CW in Malabog's Castle. That enabled parties to take fewer CWs into parties and run a more rainbow spread. I know, because I farmed MC every day.
The next release, presto, Cyrptic said the very same things you are saying now, but obliterated the value of Tacticians and GFs completely. Overnight, though you said the same as you said above, it all became about CW DPS builds. All other classes need not apply.
I mean, I run CN now, for nostalgia, because you can't make the instance useful. (Why?) I can do it with no CW, because my DC can function as such. Do this, and no. Instantly, CN is rendered back into a 4-5 CW instance. No other class need apply. It's the same as when you nerfed eternal singularity. You made worse the very same community behavior you claimed you were trying to curb. This would be literally the 4th time you've tried to do the same thing and gotten the opposite outcome. You will get *again* the same contrary outcome.
If you want to open up content to NON CONTROL WIZARDS nerfing AP and RECOVERY is the last thing to do. The more you do that, the more we stack CWs. I could solo CW or take (cheerfully) non SS CWs into MC. I wanted that Artifact but would farm the whole dungeon regardless. The day you nerfed Malestrum was the day I stopped farming, and now the instance is Guild Only. How does that help anything?
Look, you want money from me? I want sexy fashion gear and better dyes on the Zen Market.
Crying to the moon.
This might be a good time to step away from increasing the rate. It makes more sense to just reduce the cooldown times because it is easier to understand. This is especially true when translations (like the German translation) are talking about reduced times not rates, which is clearly wrong.
Please consider to just use
"actual cooldown time" = "cooldown time" * (1 - x)
instead of
"actual cooldown time" = "cooldown time" / (1 + x)
That's a very bad idea and should never be implemented.
Here's a couple of examples why it's a bad idea. In all cases let's pretend the base recharge speed is 20 secs.
1. RSI required to have 0 sec cooldown:
Current system: Infinite ( 20 / (1 + Infinite/100) ~= 0 )
Proposed system: 100% (20k recovery) ( 20 * (1 - 100/100) = 0 )
2. RSI required to have 2 sec cooldown:
Current system: 900% (180k recovery) ( 20 / (1 + 900/100) = 2 )
Proposed system: 90% (18k recovery) ( 20 * (1 - 90/100) = 2 )
3. Effective recharge speed with 10k recovery (which is possible on Live) + CW Draconic set buff:
10k recovery = 50 RSI%, CW Draconic set buff = +10 RSI%
Current system: 20 / (1 + 60/100) = 12.5
Proposed system: 20 / (1 - 60/100) = 8
In the proposed system the best stat to stack would be recovery, since you could reach a point where you could play using only your encounters, which would result in more DPS than any +dmg% you can get from power or other sources.
With increase in artifact & enchantment levels, greater kits, and the new gear that will be introduced you should be able to reach 80%+ RSI if you focus on stacking recovery.
A curve using 1/x is an asymptote. It's used to create diminish return curve in x/(1+x).
In the case of cooldown reduction, we have a DR for Recovery rating followed by an asymptote for the cooldown. Both working in the same manner. It's easy to think that it's twice more punishing but it's not really the case.
If the cooldown reduction was linear new cooldown = old cooldown*(1-x), the cooldown would reach 0s at 100%.
With a curse like : new cooldown = old cooldown/(1 + reduction), it's impossible to reach 0. At 100%, it reduce the cooldown by 2.
In short:
+ using a linear curve for Cooldown reduction give it an hard cap where it's impossible to go after 100% reduction.
+ using an asymptote curve give the possibility to go after 100%.
activations per a minute = activations per a minute * (1+x)
where X is your current cool down reduction. If you have a "100%" cool down reduction" in fact you have 100% more activations per a minute. There wasn't that easy to interpret!
agreed def should be improved on gwf ,gf or hp as stat should be removed from , cw ,tr,dc,sw gear
If I'm understanding this right you basically take stat/400 or stat/200 to get the % bonus. So 10000/400 = 25%?
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I haven't ported my GF over to preview to look at this, but off the top of my head, both Martial Mastery (Tactician capstone) and Into the Fray have effects that are based directly on the GF's damage resistance, so reducing damage resistance is a nerf to these abilities, intentionally or not.
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The change to Lifesteal here makes it feel like kick to warlocks nuts. In the new map with gear which focusing on def, life steal, power I have to take trash mobs one on one, like it would be boss class monsters...
Before this slight change, I could use BoVA to take trashes, or just damage them. Now I have to run/shift away as fast I can when more than 4 mobs start hitting me. if I face 3 mobs who hitting from range, I already know that I am doomed. Even if my warlock hit back, life steal is not good enough to survive. More less I Holding Hp potions shortcut all time.
I like challenges, and in some time in Live server where to easy, but this change is little bit to drastically. warlock don't have instant CC skills, and even current ones, takes to many long formality. While you do it, you get killed. Even if use "Accursed soul" daily power, I get killed. It drain HP from mobs and regenerate my one. But in that time warlock get killed.
I think the classes who lack CC should get slight life steal or regeneration boost. After all the ones with CC get more survivability.
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I wonder when'll you look AT SW's, you are buffing all others classes and keeping SW's as free kill and unwanted on pve.
SW will never be unwanted in PvE, PVP however we will never be seen again until Pre end game PVP, and until youa re Top Maxxed out BIS.
I play a CW, Oppressor MoF build, and it has served me very well over the past year. I pulled her over onto the test server to see how badly the changes would actually be with my particular build. I currently have 1938 Defense, and 1645 Lifesteal in my stat allocations. This has allowed me to work quite well in the past on keeping mobs under control and simultaneously keeping myself alive. I entered the new area and started running encounters, playing with mobs, running various quests, etc. Then I hit level 61... And now I'm seriously feeling as squishy as a brand new 60 trying to run VT in greens... My life steal chance went down to 4% (yes, you read that correctly... and it had been at 16% previously,) and the damage resistance chance dropped significantly as well. If leveling continues in this vein, I expect my life steal chance to be around 0.1% when I hit 70, and I'm estimating generously.
I agree that content should be considered challenging as you level up, but I do NOT think that causing stats to decrease (which seems a form of punishment for leveling up) should be the way to do it. It seemed that the minute I hit 61, my threat level skyrocketed, and my survivability tanked. I mean, seriously... Please, please, please take another look at how badly players in PvE will be affected by these changes BEFORE this goes live. I'm afraid that the game will lose numerous players if things are kept as-is.
Easy fix, no one level past 60.
Id rather have them give more value to AC since its REALLY undervalued in this game.
AC should be nearly a 1:1 or like a 3:2 AC:DR.
Also AC should work the exact SAME on EVERY class.
Tanky classes already get MUCH more AC than others. For instance:
My GF has 37.5 AC but it only gives me 13.5% DR?!
My 60 DC has 21 AC and this gives 5.5%
My Sent GWF has 34 AC but 12% DR
Soo tankier Classes already have built in more AC. This will ESPECIALLY become more important with more and more player able to reach really high values of armor pen. PVE characters will be TARGETING 80% ARP!
THE DR CAP is 80%!?
If we want a way to prevent 1 shotting in PVP Giving AC much more value gives tank classes much better DR.
At a 3:2 value I would get a boost to nearly 25% DR (up from 13.5%) from AC alone.
On my GWF I would be at 22.67% DR (up from 12)
On my DC I would be at 14% DR
See the difference? This helps make up for the Defense nerf AS WELL AS the ARP buff, because frankly given these values DR wont mean anything in PVP.
If PVE content is too easy, just buff their damage equal to the % increase in DR. BOOM PVE stays the same. PVP is now MORE balanced.
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