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  • grac3n77grac3n77 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You so sweet my little friend.
    1. Ppl cannot forget 1 shot from 15k pug on full BIS 50+ K hp on tank classes.
    2.Ppl have all rights to see who strikes them.
    3. TR's still have 543567 rolls.
    4. TR's still have long time daze. MUST BE LOW DOWN BY HALF.
    5. Top geared TR's will be more then fine enough but happy to see them crying)
    PS : maybe you don't know that simple GWF with your GS doesn't have 0.0000001chance in pvp. No dodge. No daze. No prones. No deflect. No piercing damage. Only pathetic stunes that last less than second and broken unstoppable. How about that?

    I will be happy to trade our defensive and offensive stats to your stats and your mechanics any day. and also your armor defense and weapon damage. Who would believe you that a tank classes will be one shotted by 15k gs TR.
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    grac3n77 wrote: »
    I will be happy to trade our defensive and offensive stats to your stats and your mechanics any day. and also your armor defense and weapon damage. Who would believe you that a tank classes will be one shotted by 15k gs TR.

    Answer is easy: play a different class and see how long you can do it...
  • grac3n77grac3n77 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Learn to abuse your broken class. It's already not a story. It's reality. Fact if you want. Proofed so many times with different players. But nice try) Pimp got you)

    I don't see any video or proof that a 15k gs below can 1 shot a 25k GS what I always see is a TR with 22 to 25k GS with 11 to 15k powers one shotted 18k GS below.
  • grac3n77grac3n77 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ortzhy wrote: »
    Answer is easy: play a different class and see how long you can do it...
    I said Stats and mechanics not the powers. Was that so hard to understand?
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  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Learn to abuse your broken class. It's already not a story. It's reality. Fact if you want. Proofed so many times with different players. But nice try) Pimp got you)
    You really are a very childish and silly person. I don't suppose there's any chance of you acting like an adult any time soon?
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    Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
    Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
    Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
    Darquess - Soulbinder
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    grac3n77 wrote: »
    I don't see any video or proof that a 15k gs below can 1 shot a 25k GS what I always see is a TR with 22 to 25k GS with 11 to 15k powers one shotted 18k GS below.

    Please see godmode's post on a TR beating 2x BIS players from absolute. This same TR also beat 2x BIS players from Chocolate Shoppe a few weeks ago this mod.
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Please see godmode's post on a TR beating 2x BIS players from absolute. This same TR also beat 2x BIS players from Chocolate Shoppe a few weeks ago this mod.

    if it's anything like that 8 sec video where a class that could dodge the daze from shadow strike (since the warning is a dead give-away) and got hit with a daily, then i have nothing to say
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    grac3n77 wrote: »
    I will be happy to trade our defensive and offensive stats to your stats and your mechanics any day. and also your armor defense and weapon damage. Who would believe you that a tank classes will be one shotted by 15k gs TR.
    Sure! I'd trade my defense stat for your deflect severity any day! Oh oh and I'd be happy to trade my 1051 weapon damage for your at-will and encounter damage modifiers! Cuz ya know, GWF deals 1k with at wills while a TR 2-3 shots ppl with his. And if you haven't seen a 15k TR 1 shotting a tank then you're blind as ****.

    A friendly advice, learn to play. 2s reveal to one (ONE!) player is nothing.
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    zvieris wrote: »
    A friendly advice, learn to play. 2s reveal to one (ONE!) player is nothing.

    it reveals all rogues
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  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Lol. For you I can be a child) I barely have time play 1 char. So, if you have time to play 6 you probably on retirement. Pimp got you to GRANNY)
    Thanks for proving my point.
    Jenna Sunsoul - Justice Tankadin
    Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
    Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
    Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
    Darquess - Soulbinder
  • berzergeraberzergera Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Even after the 2 sec stealth reveal changes TR can still 1v1 any class, and own any class 1v1. I really dont see the problem.

    Only problem is TRs who want to 2v1 and still win. Which is unfair.

    ALTHO, TRs did not even need a buff mod5, they only needed glyphs in profound gear and they would be in a great spot.
  • nanners#9564 nanners Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    For 3 modules TRs have been the underdog every other class **** on, remember the roar bugs? remmeber in mod4 TRs cldnt even throw a dagger at HR? They are driven to use perma build because of the mass whines (when this game had way more players) pre mod1 LA lashing one shot madness.

    All this class needed was a overal all dmg buff from mod4 nothing more, not even piercing dmg. This is a striker class and suppose to have the highest single target burst. The problem is, not many high end TRs left in this game for DEV to have a true insight and feedback from, you assigned class advocate and I havent heard a single word or any act from this guy, all you get is the forum qqs from other classes where they are so used to this previously gimped circle runner.

    Instead of making minor adjustment at a time and testing with players, both new/high end players, you went ahead and changed this class completely through the stealth rework, very ill considerate in my book. It's an insult to ppl who spent a lot of money to build around this wonder machanic, I dont see the point advancing it further. If you change a certain class/nerf/buff based on forum qqers only because "they dont like it" then perhaps you need professional game testers to begin with.

    Stealth is a very unique feature for TR, it's the only reliable form of defense they have, if you make them visible for 2 second on hit it's like making other classes vulnerable for 2 second everytime they hit? You cant expect every class to be the same because "I cant do it so why shld you".

    TL;DR
    TR needed a bit of overall dmg buff thats all, the initial stealth rework was already uncalled for, this 2sec visible on hit idea needs to go but nerf the currecnt TR dmg even more, and remove 100% crit chance in stealth. For further advanced feedback about mod5 in general, please refer to this thread: State of Module 5 PvP “ELO” and Class Balance
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    isuuck2 wrote: »
    So ofc tr's can lose now and can still beat people. But just to put you trs are ease. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDcC_MGk3k&feature=youtu.be
    This is versus a hr. Smoke bomb still ****s with gf, tr's can still kill just about every class still. So i am confused at what the problem is now. Someone needs to tell me what they want tr's to do.


    godmode i dont wanna talk trash to u. but u irish bro.
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    trs was underpower for nearly 1.5 year noone was playing tr. i swear im online everyday min 7 8 hour and i know ALLL tr ingame there is really noone who play tr right now even now noone play because its so HAMSTER hard to play tr as a tricky and counter.

    actually we deserve to get a huge buff and take some fun from game but ppl cry so much all time about trs really dont know why:(((

    these ppl who use all encounter on me while i have itc on or just dodge all of their encounters :))) ofc u guyz cant kill me

    instead of qq u have to learn guyz how to play these forum heros making us always drop drop drop....

    i can clean all of these players on forum in 10 sec i also was cleaning in m3 m4 m2

    because i was always know how to play my class same like sicarius

    my personal opinion was to 2v1 always on home base tr and fight on mid and make it mid game but yeaaaaa ofc ALL TR CANT BE SAME SKILL EXPECIALLY CLASS NAME IS TRICKSTER ROGUE IS ALOT MORE HIGHER SKILL CAP THEN OTHER CLASS

    there is just 2 3 tr can do what i do because we are the one who play the tr even trs was 000000

    now u guyz tell nerf tr because these HAMSTER GODS **** US=:??:) ofc we will guyz im sorry but in life everything is mutual
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    about new changes on tr. i will still beat all players who come to node even if u nerf more i will keep clean because they are not in my skill cap but if u see these videos and talk about general on trs its lame on your side.

    yea new changes are awsome and alot more hard to play tr but im deal with it still

    but i really wish to not get these nerf instead of it just u had to nerf bb and se
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    i just talk u guyz shouldnt make these stuff GENERAL BECAUSE OF 1 2 TR CAN DO THAT.

    yes if u wanna know im the BOSS i never leave node i never bleed i can dodge like a god all of your encounter i can daily like a god i can itc all your daily and counter all i use all my at wills like a god... because i used all of them since 1.5 year and in really really hard positions while we were irish ppl with our dps soo now ofc i will one shot everyone because im sooo used to and soo easy to move
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/profile

    these are my videos from high end pvp game u can watch them and see whats going on and these are highlights there is few more easy game absolute and inhouse i didnt put them on highlight but u can see on Past Broadcasts all my videos
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5651535
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5651503
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5645541
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You must sacrifice your f*** stealth if you attack.
    End of story.

    one day you will sacrifice unstoppable to attack
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You must sacrifice your f*** stealth if you attack.
    End of story.

    YEA u pug say and we loose?:D:D:D if devs listen u pugs and make it happen f..k the devs also :D
  • ganzjganzj Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    crollax wrote: »
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/profile

    these are my videos from high end pvp game u can watch them and see whats going on and these are highlights there is few more easy game absolute and inhouse i didnt put them on highlight but u can see on Past Broadcasts all my videos
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5651535
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5651503
    http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5645541

    How do u gain AP so fast ?
  • isuuck2isuuck2 Member Posts: 491 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    crollax wrote: »
    YEA u pug say and we loose?:D:D:D if devs listen u pugs and make it happen f..k the devs also :D
    when were tr's ever the weakest? through out most of the mods you had the strongest defensive mechanism. Except for mod3 hr. You are saying that trs still need a buff? ok man ok whatever.
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  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    one day you will sacrifice unstoppable to attack

    Lol what? Unstoppable was already sacrificed 3 times: nerf to DR, nerf to duration, nerf to determination gain. And you cry about 2s reveal that only applies to the one person YOU attack?
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    isuuck2 wrote: »
    when were tr's ever the weakest? through out most of the mods you had the strongest defensive mechanism. Except for mod3 hr. You are saying that trs still need a buff? ok man ok whatever.

    trs was always week on the node against some classes we are ENEMY NODE HOLDER so practiclyy we have to be able to beat all classes 1v1 to hold it yea?

    and hw the *** u can talk in tr's side while u just play in your life gf?

    u pugs just cry on forum ALOTTTT and these ((CLEAVER)) DEVS LISTEN U PUGS ALOT

    i remember 30k take down gwf

    one shot cws

    untouchable HAMSTER hrs (long time)

    unfinished gf daily

    and while all of these happen we were trying to land our stupid no damage hardest atwill in game duelist flurry to u guyz realy?????
  • crollaxcrollax Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    yes right now we are op. i dont say we are not but practicly we have to be that much op to handle any 1v1 and hold 2v1. this is our main job.

    if anyclass be able to clean tr in 1v1 there is no hope for any tr in any time instead of hide on node again like old time
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    zvieris wrote: »
    Lol what? Unstoppable was already sacrificed 3 times: nerf to DR, nerf to duration, nerf to determination gain. And you cry about 2s reveal that only applies to the one person YOU attack?

    yea lets do that people you strike while you are in unstoppable ignore your dr for 2 seconds, fair enough
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