if the majority of the community don't think it is neccesary maybe they will remove it and force scoundrel feats to respect cc immunity skills. bb and SE have already been fixed/nerfed on test shard. if they go through with the 2secs reveal then maybe it should be a non-target able reveal unless you get close to them like normally.
Because it does? This NERF literally means if you want to do damage, you don't have stealth , by extension not having stealth means you die,
So it's chose life or death , but if you live you can't touch anyone
No it does not. Even if youare revealed in this wayyou still have 100% crit and skills work the same way as under stealth. What's the ****ing deal with you guys? Can't you kite for 2 ****ing seconds?? Learn to play! I've learned to kite unstoppable GWFs for 8 seconds, you can too.
I could take a few damage nerfs, but I can't live without stealth.
Yeah. The problem with that is that in PvE it's the other way around. And far more people PvE than PvP. So unless you can come up with a way to nerf damage in PvP only this is a no-go.
No it does not. Even if youare revealed in this wayyou still have 100% crit and skills work the same way as under stealth. What's the ****ing deal with you guys? Can't you kite for 2 ****ing seconds?? Learn to play! I've learned to kite unstoppable GWFs for 8 seconds, you can too.
they should just get rid of the 100% crit and rework lashing to just auto-crit from stealth like b4. quite frankly, nobody asked for those changes in the 1st place
if gf's don't get true immunity from their daily, then the devs can fix that since that is like the only thing that might not work properly when dazed.
No it does not. Even if youare revealed in this wayyou still have 100% crit and skills work the same way as under stealth. What's the ****ing deal with you guys? Can't you kite for 2 ****ing seconds?? Learn to play! I've learned to kite unstoppable GWFs for 8 seconds, you can too.
So why does our tab need to be made useless now? Are you one of those people who can't track a stealth rogued? Its pretty easy.
So why does our tab need to be made useless now? Are you one of those people who can't track a stealth rogued? Its pretty easy.
Useless? How is 100% crit, increased damage, range, speed and w/e for your abilities useless, hm? And hey, it's YOU who reveal yourself or not to your enemies, not the other way around. Open up with a daze and you're as good as ever.
And what about other tab powers? What about tripple nerfed Unstoppable? What about CWs using their tab power only to slot shield? What about GF's mark? All of these tab powers are completely useless when compared to something like stealth.
Also, you're forgetting that this game is based on DnD tabletop RPG. And this is what is said about remaining stealthed:
Remaining Hidden: You remain hidden as long as you meet these requirements.
Keep Out of Sight: If you no longer have any cover or concealment against an enemy, you don’t remain hidden from that enemy. You don’t need superior cover, total concealment, or to stay outside line of sight, but you do need some degree of cover or concealment to remain hidden. You can’t use another creature as cover to remain hidden.
Keep Quiet: If you speak louder than a whisper or otherwise draw attention to yourself, you don’t remain hidden from any enemy that can hear you.
Keep Still: If you move more than 2 squares during an action, you must make a new Stealth check with a −5 penalty. If you run, the penalty is −10. If any enemy’s passive Perception check beats your check result, you don’t remain hidden from that enemy. Don’t Attack: If you attack, you don’t remain hidden.
I'm glad they made TR the way it was supposed to be from the very start. SO buck it up and learn to play with your new mechanics instead of whining on forums when you have no right to.
Useless? How is 100% crit, increased damage, range, speed and w/e for your abilities useless, hm? And hey, it's YOU who reveal yourself or not to your enemies, not the other way around. Open up with a daze and you're as good as ever.
And what about other tab powers? What about tripple nerfed Unstoppable? What about CWs using their tab power only to slot shield? What about GF's mark? All of these tab powers are completely useless when compared to something like stealth.
Also, you're forgetting that this game is based on DnD tabletop RPG. And this is what is said about remaining stealthed:
I'm glad they made TR the way it was supposed to be from the very start. SO buck it up and learn to play with your new mechanics instead of whining on forums when you have no right to.
Silly pve cws always try to get everything nerfed
Look right here, the poll dosent lie, your the minority here, not me
sicarius u waste your time with these scrubs like roman and stuff man.
these are pugs who talk on forum 7x24 but in game get clear in 2 sec:D
so dont give attention to them. my personal idea open topic even worthless because these scrubs will never learn pvp. and always will flame and will make u mad with their stupid sentences with %0 skill
Firstly, I'm not a CW. Secondly, the pool is meaningless when only TR's vote. Put it to gameplay and pvp discussions forum where it will get more views and then we'll talk.
sicarius u waste your time with these scrubs like roman and stuff man.
these are pugs who talk on forum 7x24 but in game get clear in 2 sec:D
so dont give attention to them. my personal idea open topic even worthless because these scrubs will never learn pvp. and always will flame and will make u mad with their stupid sentences with %0 skill
sicarius u waste your time with these scrubs like roman and stuff man.
Lol. U back? Even other TR's said u useless then green puggy boy just hit 60)
Keep your own word and dissappear. Lol
PS : your poll doesn't mean S***. It is fake as you are.
Firstly, I'm not a CW. Secondly, the pool is meaningless when only TR's vote. Put it to gameplay and pvp discussions forum where it will get more views and then we'll talk.
LMAO, and that's when you know people argue only to be right and don't care about the game, they act like sore losers and claim a public poll is fake
Its evident your not a pvpier , whatever you are, because a real pvpier would recognize the majority of the voters name
LMAO, and that's when you know people argue only to be right and don't care about the game, they act like sore losers and claim a public poll is fake
Its evident your not a pvpier , whatever you are, because a real pvpier would recognize the majority of the voters name
I don't care about the game? You want TR to beat anyone in 1v1 and 1v2, and I'm the bad guy here? You're one selfish little prick, you know that right?
I don't care about the game? You want TR to beat anyone in 1v1 and 1v2, and I'm the bad guy here? You're one selfish little prick, you know that right?
Lol Woah, we got another flame breathing troll
The fact of the matter is, beginning of the module trs had to relearn their class, now if you implement this, trs would have to completely change their play style again and this time with very little reward
What's the difference between a combat hr and a stealth reveal tr?
The hr has lifesteal sustain and escapes and dosent lose 1v1 vs the majority of classes with max potential and gear
The fact of the matter is, beginning of the module trs had to relearn their class, now if you implement this, trs would have to completely change their play style again and this time with very little reward
What's the difference between a combat hr and a stealth reveal tr?
The hr has lifesteal sustain and escapes and dosent lose 1v1 vs the majority of classes with max potential and gear
this is what i was asking for, a more stealthy combat HR without piercing abomination.
scoundrel is near that but got 0 of the free stuffs a HR can get.
HR has 15% lifesteal? tr 5%.
HR has lone wolf? i dont even know what class feature we can go proud of.
HR has wild medicine? we get 10% deflect under 30% hp.
i was not complaining about that before just because they left stealth more or less unchanged ( yea i know stealth depletion however ).
TR clearly needs a way to be detected easily, pug matches are the majority after all but this means 1 of the 3 trees is BADLY designed and needs a major rework, i dont know how maybe little to 0 damage no piercing more healing more undetected stealth?
and overall its time to look better at class features and stealth depletion ( maybe 7% down to 15% ??? )
Okay just take out the stealth cause most of the player have not been playing other MMO with stealth as well they are just lame to spend time how to counter it.. Devs could not even think about giving a CW or DC a true sight skill to counter stealth. or giving them a blindness skill to an SW.
Okay just take out the stealth cause most of the player have not been playing other MMO with stealth as well they are just lame to spend time how to counter it.. Devs could not even think about giving a CW or DC a true sight skill to counter stealth. or giving them a blindness skill to an SW.
i cant rly recall any other mmo with perma stealth as an option
I'm sorry sir, but pve is primarily useless once you have max gear, PvP is the true end game
The game's publishers, developers, and the vast majority of its players disagree with you. Only arrogance on a truly epic scale would lead someone to ignore those facts.
The game's publishers, developers, and the vast majority of its players disagree with you. Only arrogance on a truly epic scale would lead someone to ignore those facts.
Its called look at the money trail
What pays this games rent? (You don't need nearly as much gear to complete dungeons)Pvpiers buying Zen to gear up
PvE is simply the free way to gear up, don't delude yourself, this game exists to make money and wouldn't make nearly as much without PvP
Name 1 dungeon that has true replay content after you have max gear
PvP is supreme and infinitely changing and superior in skill level required to be the best
Nobody cares if your CW did 500k more damage then me at the end of a dungeon, the only thing people care about is the gear, which with the addition of the drow set, you'll see people leaving pve behind since it will undoubtedly be BiS for almost every class
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So it's chose life or death , but if you live you can't touch anyone
you are starting to be a little bit insolent, dont you?
stay behind a keyboard does not mean you can talk to people as you want.
this kind of behaviour usually does not help in real life too.
said so, your last comments and crollax ones should be removed.
No it does not. Even if youare revealed in this wayyou still have 100% crit and skills work the same way as under stealth. What's the ****ing deal with you guys? Can't you kite for 2 ****ing seconds?? Learn to play! I've learned to kite unstoppable GWFs for 8 seconds, you can too.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
they should just get rid of the 100% crit and rework lashing to just auto-crit from stealth like b4. quite frankly, nobody asked for those changes in the 1st place
if gf's don't get true immunity from their daily, then the devs can fix that since that is like the only thing that might not work properly when dazed.
So why does our tab need to be made useless now? Are you one of those people who can't track a stealth rogued? Its pretty easy.
I'm sorry sir, but pve is primarily useless once you have max gear, PvP is the true end game
Useless? How is 100% crit, increased damage, range, speed and w/e for your abilities useless, hm? And hey, it's YOU who reveal yourself or not to your enemies, not the other way around. Open up with a daze and you're as good as ever.
And what about other tab powers? What about tripple nerfed Unstoppable? What about CWs using their tab power only to slot shield? What about GF's mark? All of these tab powers are completely useless when compared to something like stealth.
Also, you're forgetting that this game is based on DnD tabletop RPG. And this is what is said about remaining stealthed:
http://dnd4.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth
I'm glad they made TR the way it was supposed to be from the very start. SO buck it up and learn to play with your new mechanics instead of whining on forums when you have no right to.
Silly pve cws always try to get everything nerfed
Look right here, the poll dosent lie, your the minority here, not me
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?810741-Stealth-Change-vs-Damage-Reduction/page8
these are pugs who talk on forum 7x24 but in game get clear in 2 sec:D
so dont give attention to them. my personal idea open topic even worthless because these scrubs will never learn pvp. and always will flame and will make u mad with their stupid sentences with %0 skill
Firstly, I'm not a CW. Secondly, the pool is meaningless when only TR's vote. Put it to gameplay and pvp discussions forum where it will get more views and then we'll talk.
++1 on this
just read before u faint outa hate
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?804191-State-of-Module-5-PvP-quot-ELO-quot-and-Class-Balance
do u agree with sica now?
most of the pvpers have every fakin class and very much enjoy playing it
now... go run karru
PS :the quote was that of romanprter, not crollax
PS2: plz fix the quote, its easy, its just one button
LMAO, and that's when you know people argue only to be right and don't care about the game, they act like sore losers and claim a public poll is fake
Its evident your not a pvpier , whatever you are, because a real pvpier would recognize the majority of the voters name
I don't care about the game? You want TR to beat anyone in 1v1 and 1v2, and I'm the bad guy here? You're one selfish little prick, you know that right?
Lol Woah, we got another flame breathing troll
The fact of the matter is, beginning of the module trs had to relearn their class, now if you implement this, trs would have to completely change their play style again and this time with very little reward
What's the difference between a combat hr and a stealth reveal tr?
The hr has lifesteal sustain and escapes and dosent lose 1v1 vs the majority of classes with max potential and gear
this is what i was asking for, a more stealthy combat HR without piercing abomination.
scoundrel is near that but got 0 of the free stuffs a HR can get.
HR has 15% lifesteal? tr 5%.
HR has lone wolf? i dont even know what class feature we can go proud of.
HR has wild medicine? we get 10% deflect under 30% hp.
i was not complaining about that before just because they left stealth more or less unchanged ( yea i know stealth depletion however ).
TR clearly needs a way to be detected easily, pug matches are the majority after all but this means 1 of the 3 trees is BADLY designed and needs a major rework, i dont know how maybe little to 0 damage no piercing more healing more undetected stealth?
and overall its time to look better at class features and stealth depletion ( maybe 7% down to 15% ??? )
i cant rly recall any other mmo with perma stealth as an option
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
Its called look at the money trail
What pays this games rent? (You don't need nearly as much gear to complete dungeons)Pvpiers buying Zen to gear up
PvE is simply the free way to gear up, don't delude yourself, this game exists to make money and wouldn't make nearly as much without PvP
Name 1 dungeon that has true replay content after you have max gear
PvP is supreme and infinitely changing and superior in skill level required to be the best
Nobody cares if your CW did 500k more damage then me at the end of a dungeon, the only thing people care about is the gear, which with the addition of the drow set, you'll see people leaving pve behind since it will undoubtedly be BiS for almost every class