LOL page changed again with item descriptions and if the items are account wide. first time page doesnt work.. than it does.. now its a different page.
Holy moses.. the page just changed again.. new fashion item added. Someone is watching this thread O.o
Suggestion
To make this pack worth $100 at the very least allow 1 30 slot bag per character.
Get rid of the overload enchants. They are temporary and will be 5-10k ad.
This should include a Dragon mount for this price.
List the race attributes of the new race. Why buy it if it doesnt fit what you want to spec.
Bahamut gear
Hopefully this is account wide but if it isnt it really should be. Either way you need to tell us.
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khimera906Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 898Arc User
edited July 2014
I was happy to see they will add a new race, and Dragonborn were one of the races I was looking forward too ... then it comes in a lame overpriced "pack"'.
By the Gods, that fashion looks friggin ugly! It's like a modified GWF's armor, only ugly
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totally agree with the above comments. the price for the pack is ridiculous considering what is included. also, a big part of the reason i don't play SWTOR, DDO or LOTRO is because of all the restrictions to free players. i enjoy this game, have spent a bit of money on it and am more than willing to continue putting money down, but if they start putting out actual content that is only available for rl money (and at ludicrous prices), i truly don't think things will go well for them.
hopefully there will be an announcement as to when the race will be free or at least available to purchase on it's own for a reasonable price. if not, i'm afraid this may be the beginning of a truly terrible trend.
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2014
So pack contains: Unlimited
Dragonborn race -cool
Dragonborn Fashion set -cool
Dragonborn Armor transmutes -cool
Accountwide leveling ring -cool
One per character
Heart of the Red Dragon blue quality artifact -no info on stats...
One time only
Gemfinder enchantment, r9 - okaayyy, I suppose?
Draconic Enchantment, r8 - basically the same kind as a BI enchant but different stats...okaaayy.
Character slot -standard, cool
30 slot bag -nice
Race Change token -I expect this will be quite expensive in the zen store, so not bad.
Unknown
Bahamut Armor reinforcement kits - if reclaimable on all character, could be nice, if not, uber lame.
Super lame
All the one time only, limited use glyphs. Just...utter junk. What the eff are you thinking putting this kinda junk in a $99 paywalled pack?
Overall, this is probably the 2nd worst value pack they've ever released.
"Items will be delivered when Module 4: Tyranny of Dragons launches on August 14, 2014. "
So basically none of this is LIVE yet...
What are you trying to imply?
Hunter Ranger booster pack wasn't live until you could play HR. How is this different?
They're pre-selling them at a discount. Presumably parts will be available for testing on Preview; if not, decide if you want to get the savings or wait until people have road-tested the items.
What's worse, they don't even state to what attributes this race contributes or any other benefit from the race. So why would I want a Dragonborn? Except for the cosmetic look, nobody knows.
IDK who's driving, but someone should wake him up before accidents happen. The race change token isn't even working properly on preview. Selling it for the live server now is nothing short of stupid even if they have to wait to get it. You don't put stuff on sale that doesn't work now and you can't even guarantee it's working at the time of mod4's release FFS.
Seriously Cryptic, step up to the game or send somebody intelligent in your place.
I pulled this from the Wiki page: Racial Trait: Dragonborn Fury - You have a 5% chance when attacking a foe to apply Dragonborn Fury to yourself for 6 seconds, increasing your Power and Crit by 3%.
Not too bad of a racial stat.
What with the new race change token coming and Dragonborn releasing, this just may become interesting for end-gamers. Depending on racial attributes, I just may change my Tiefling CW to a DB and not have to worry about creating a new one and leveling him up.
30 slot bag is of course only 1. at this price should be account wide, 1 per character.
It doesn't state one way or the other. Most of the items actually specify such as "This item can only be claimed once" or "These are an account-wide unlock". But more than likely it will just be once. That's a no sale for me, Cryptic. At least throw a companion in there!
Probably follow DnD wich should be +2 str/cha or +2con/cha i'n more curious about the dragon breath if it'll have or no
And this is why I wont buy, because you can try and copy racial "stats" over the but stats in this game are not direct "translation" of PnP.
So saying they get +2 CHA when +2 CHA in NW is COMPLETELY different than +2 CHA on PnP doesnt work. Look at GWFs, +2 Con = armor pen?!
I am HOPING they actually put THOUGHT into this race - especially that they are going to charge for it - and made it a +2 Con BASE with the choice between +2 CHA or +2 STR. Keeps the SAME "stats" as PnP but just reverses the order a tad for more flexibility.
DB are supposed to be ideal fighters, but +2 CHA does nothing for GFs or GWFs in this game... Thus making a Halfling > a DB for a fighter class. (call me crazy)
Hunter Ranger booster pack wasn't live until you could play HR. How is this different?
They're pre-selling them at a discount. Presumably parts will be available for testing on Preview; if not, decide if you want to get the savings or wait until people have road-tested the items.
Well, Im trying to find out
1) What the DB stats/racials are - not on LIVE or PTR for testing yet.
2) What the stats of the legendary version of the arti is - not on live or PTR for testing.
3) Didnt see the race change token OR option to use it on LIVE - option is broken on PTR atm.
I was wondering what was going on, UNTIL I saw that *Items will be delivered when Module 4: Tyranny of Dragons launches on August 14, 2014. ...
So it explains WHY we dont have more info and WHY we cant see the stuff on LIVE or PTR yet.
Definitely holding out to buy until I know more about it.
I pulled this from the Wiki page: Racial Trait: Dragonborn Fury - You have a 5% chance when attacking a foe to apply Dragonborn Fury to yourself for 6 seconds, increasing your Power and Crit by 3%.
Not too bad of a racial stat.
What with the new race change token coming and Dragonborn releasing, this just may become interesting for end-gamers. Depending on racial attributes, I just may change my Tiefling CW to a DB and not have to worry about creating a new one and leveling him up.
Will that also translate into "You heal faster at Campfires! Congrats!"
Instead here is a race token so you can pick the race that we actually invested time into. Welcome to halfling world /rantoff.
Can any of the developers tell us if there is a non paywalled version of Dragonborn coming in future? Drow was released just over 60 days after the exclusive renegade version and we got the paid for sun elves and free moon elves with Fury but this makes it look like the Dragonborn race is permanently locked behind a paywall , please tell us this isn't the case .
Or even worse yet... is the only way someone can make a Dragonborn is if they bought the f'ing 60-dollar pack...?
Look, if that really is all the case, then I just wanna make this painfully clear.
Menzoberranzen and Moon Elf were just pretty little reskins, so it makes complete sense for them to only be accessible from a massively-expensive VIP pack. Those were literally just BONUSES. By and for, all intents and purposes of the word bonus (hell the entire $200 pack is just a bonus, but you get what I mean...).
But Dragonborn...? This is literally A WHOLE NEW, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RACE ALL ON IT'S OWN. This is no longer the territory of "pretty bonuses". This is straight-up new content, with new mechanics, new quests, and the whole nine-yards.
And if you're going to be making people pay for a $60 pack to play as Dragonborn? Let me spell this out for you:
You would make people pay the worth of a NEW TRIPLE-A GAME, just to play as one race in a normally free-to-play game?
I just wanna make sure that i'm getting all of this. I hope that my speculations are wrong about this. I WANT to be wrong about all this. Because I simply cannot justify that price for that value. And i'm sure the majority of spending players can't justify that either. Especially when you already have 2 other promotions going on at the same time... -_-
So if i'm wrong, then please clarify for me. But if i'm right, please just allow Dragonborn, the standalone race, to be playable under normal circumstances once Mod4 is out... v.v
I feel like $75 is a lot to be spending to unlock a race, even though it comes with all the other stuff, I'd like to see an option just to unlock the race in the zen store.
LOL love they are watching this page.. PAGE CHANGED AGAIN!!
For the first time in Neverwinter, play as a Dragonborn! Children of Io, the great dragon-god, the dragonborn are a steadfast and honorable people who have thrown off the shackles of their former dragon masters. The Dragonborn is the only race that allows players to add +2 to any stats. Once unlocked on your account you can make any number of Dragonborn.
$100 pack for mostly cosmetic or temporary things? Plus access to a race and a couple items.
Just .... no ... no ....
If this is the only way to get access to a new race, it will be disappointing; at least with drow there was an eventual free version (sun/moon elf also come to mind).
And, of course, if this is available for Zen, it certainly isn't going to help the current ZAX situation.
LOL love they are watching this page.. PAGE CHANGED AGAIN!!
For the first time in Neverwinter, play as a Dragonborn! Children of Io, the great dragon-god, the dragonborn are a steadfast and honorable people who have thrown off the shackles of their former dragon masters. The Dragonborn is the only race that allows players to add +2 to any stats. Once unlocked on your account you can make any number of Dragonborn.
Doesn't Human let you add +2 to any starter stat? xD
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I feel like $75 is a lot to be spending to unlock a race, even though it comes with all the other stuff, I'd like to see an option just to unlock the race in the zen store.
Probably wont know this for a while, and with race change options who knows...
I think what we ALL want to see is the racial stats (maybe they havnt even worked this out yet!) and also the FINAL legendary version of the artifact. It actually seems pretty strong (if using AS a DB race) so that could be a cool thing.
Really want more details on the race - seeing as thats the REAL reason youd buy this overpriced pack...
Comments
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/game-pack/detail/495-dragonborn-legend-pack
Most of the items are single except for fashion, artifact and ring.
The bahamut items do not say.. i would hope those are account wide.
30 slot bag is of course only 1. at this price should be account wide, 1 per character.
"Items will be delivered when Module 4: Tyranny of Dragons launches on August 14, 2014. "
So basically none of this is LIVE yet...
And I was thinking that the race wouldn't exceed 25 bucks or so or a pack (with a companion or mount) would maybe be 50. Silly me.
Maybe a christmas sale will be better.
Edit: Though, to be more upbeat, their design looks pretty cool ands seems inline with what little Forgotten Realms art I've seen of them.
Suggestion
To make this pack worth $100 at the very least allow 1 30 slot bag per character.
Get rid of the overload enchants. They are temporary and will be 5-10k ad.
This should include a Dragon mount for this price.
List the race attributes of the new race. Why buy it if it doesnt fit what you want to spec.
Bahamut gear
Hopefully this is account wide but if it isnt it really should be. Either way you need to tell us.
By the Gods, that fashion looks friggin ugly! It's like a modified GWF's armor, only ugly
hopefully there will be an announcement as to when the race will be free or at least available to purchase on it's own for a reasonable price. if not, i'm afraid this may be the beginning of a truly terrible trend.
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Unlimited
One per character
One time only
Unknown
Super lame
Overall, this is probably the 2nd worst value pack they've ever released.
You aren't paying for the race, per se, inasmuch as you're paying for the entirety of the pack.
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What are you trying to imply?
Hunter Ranger booster pack wasn't live until you could play HR. How is this different?
They're pre-selling them at a discount. Presumably parts will be available for testing on Preview; if not, decide if you want to get the savings or wait until people have road-tested the items.
I pulled this from the Wiki page: Racial Trait: Dragonborn Fury - You have a 5% chance when attacking a foe to apply Dragonborn Fury to yourself for 6 seconds, increasing your Power and Crit by 3%.
Not too bad of a racial stat.
What with the new race change token coming and Dragonborn releasing, this just may become interesting for end-gamers. Depending on racial attributes, I just may change my Tiefling CW to a DB and not have to worry about creating a new one and leveling him up.
WTB Class Reroll please
It doesn't state one way or the other. Most of the items actually specify such as "This item can only be claimed once" or "These are an account-wide unlock". But more than likely it will just be once. That's a no sale for me, Cryptic. At least throw a companion in there!
No thank you.
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And this is why I wont buy, because you can try and copy racial "stats" over the but stats in this game are not direct "translation" of PnP.
So saying they get +2 CHA when +2 CHA in NW is COMPLETELY different than +2 CHA on PnP doesnt work. Look at GWFs, +2 Con = armor pen?!
I am HOPING they actually put THOUGHT into this race - especially that they are going to charge for it - and made it a +2 Con BASE with the choice between +2 CHA or +2 STR. Keeps the SAME "stats" as PnP but just reverses the order a tad for more flexibility.
DB are supposed to be ideal fighters, but +2 CHA does nothing for GFs or GWFs in this game... Thus making a Halfling > a DB for a fighter class. (call me crazy)
Well, Im trying to find out
1) What the DB stats/racials are - not on LIVE or PTR for testing yet.
2) What the stats of the legendary version of the arti is - not on live or PTR for testing.
3) Didnt see the race change token OR option to use it on LIVE - option is broken on PTR atm.
I was wondering what was going on, UNTIL I saw that *Items will be delivered when Module 4: Tyranny of Dragons launches on August 14, 2014. ...
So it explains WHY we dont have more info and WHY we cant see the stuff on LIVE or PTR yet.
Definitely holding out to buy until I know more about it.
Will that also translate into "You heal faster at Campfires! Congrats!"
Instead here is a race token so you can pick the race that we actually invested time into. Welcome to halfling world /rantoff.
Look, if that really is all the case, then I just wanna make this painfully clear.
Menzoberranzen and Moon Elf were just pretty little reskins, so it makes complete sense for them to only be accessible from a massively-expensive VIP pack. Those were literally just BONUSES. By and for, all intents and purposes of the word bonus (hell the entire $200 pack is just a bonus, but you get what I mean...).
But Dragonborn...? This is literally A WHOLE NEW, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RACE ALL ON IT'S OWN. This is no longer the territory of "pretty bonuses". This is straight-up new content, with new mechanics, new quests, and the whole nine-yards.
And if you're going to be making people pay for a $60 pack to play as Dragonborn? Let me spell this out for you:
You would make people pay the worth of a NEW TRIPLE-A GAME, just to play as one race in a normally free-to-play game?
I just wanna make sure that i'm getting all of this. I hope that my speculations are wrong about this. I WANT to be wrong about all this. Because I simply cannot justify that price for that value. And i'm sure the majority of spending players can't justify that either. Especially when you already have 2 other promotions going on at the same time... -_-
So if i'm wrong, then please clarify for me. But if i'm right, please just allow Dragonborn, the standalone race, to be playable under normal circumstances once Mod4 is out... v.v
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For the first time in Neverwinter, play as a Dragonborn! Children of Io, the great dragon-god, the dragonborn are a steadfast and honorable people who have thrown off the shackles of their former dragon masters. The Dragonborn is the only race that allows players to add +2 to any stats. Once unlocked on your account you can make any number of Dragonborn.
Just .... no ... no ....
If this is the only way to get access to a new race, it will be disappointing; at least with drow there was an eventual free version (sun/moon elf also come to mind).
And, of course, if this is available for Zen, it certainly isn't going to help the current ZAX situation.
Doesn't Human let you add +2 to any starter stat? xD
$60? You wish. $75 on sale, or $99 normally. *badword* that.
Probably wont know this for a while, and with race change options who knows...
I think what we ALL want to see is the racial stats (maybe they havnt even worked this out yet!) and also the FINAL legendary version of the artifact. It actually seems pretty strong (if using AS a DB race) so that could be a cool thing.
Really want more details on the race - seeing as thats the REAL reason youd buy this overpriced pack...