oh ho ho! Chainmail for the warlock! This is good news. I was worried that between ranger, druid, rogue, and warlock, we'd have four leather armor users.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
oh ho ho! Chainmail for the warlock! This is good news. I was worried that between ranger, druid, rogue, and warlock, we'd have four leather armor users.
Don't be so sure. The HR gear there is also depicted with chain underneath.
oh ho ho! Chainmail for the warlock! This is good news. I was worried that between ranger, druid, rogue, and warlock, we'd have four leather armor users.
Actually I believe itll be Leather, but everything is subject to change. Its been a long time since it showed up. Really long time. -_-
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Druid Ranger, Nature skill (Melee DPS and Healer, while Cleric is Ranged DPS and Healer)
Destruction Wizard, Arcana skill (Warlock :U)
Devoted Paladin, Religion skill (Melee DPS and maybe Tank? Idk.)
I did put existing parts of names, since GF and GWF both have "Fighter" and use the Dungeon skill. This is what I expect, idk. I can't think in another class that would use the Thief skill.
Druid Ranger, Nature skill (Melee DPS and Healer, while Cleric is Ranged DPS and Healer)
Destruction Wizard, Arcana skill (Warlock :U)
Devoted Paladin, Religion skill (Melee DPS and maybe Tank? Idk.)
I did put existing parts of names, since GF and GWF both have "Fighter" and use the Dungeon skill. This is what I expect, idk. I can't think in another class that would use the Thief skill.
the issue there is that there's two kinds of fighters because in 4e dnd, which Neverwinter is based on, has two different types of fighters; the Great Weapon Fighter and the Guardian Fighter. it's the same class, but two different builds that rely on different strategies. The warlock, though, is an entirely separate class, and is a striker with a bit of control and some tankiness. The druid is a primal controller, while a ranger is a martial striker. Paladin is a divine defender, cleric is a divine leader. I've gone into detail above about what we're likely to get, at the top of this page.
Considering how much damage control wizards already dish out I find it hard to imagine how a purely offensive caster would differ.
Like this, post is from last year 05-09-2013 with data we got back then. Pure speculation with d&d info with the names some other user found back then ....
Well if the stick to the things we know then:
At-Will Powers:
Eldritch Blast: 1d10 + Charisma or Constitution modifier damage. Increase damage to 2d10 + Charisma or Constitution modifier at 21st level.
Curse: :cool:
Shadowslip (Misty Step) dodge
Encounter Powers
Dreadheft: 3d8 + Charisma modifier necrotic damage. If this attack drops a target to 0 hit points or fewer, the power is not expended.
Fierybolt: 3d6 + Constitution modifier fire damage, and creatures adjacent to the target take 1d6 + Constitution modifier fire damage.
Killing Flames: 3d8 + Constitution modifier fire damage.
Vampiric Embrace: 2d8 + Constitution modifier necrotic damage, and you gain 5 temporary hit points.
Daily Powers:
Accursed Souls: Until the end of the encounter, whenever an enemy you have cursed is reduced to 0 hit points or fewer, enemies adjacent to that target take 10 necrotic damage.
Brood of Hadar: 3d10 + Constitution modifier necrotic damage. If this damage is enough to reduce the target to 0 hit points, make a secondary attack.
Infectious Curse: 2d12 + Constitution modifier damage. Until the end of the encounter, any enemy that starts its turn adjacent to the target gains your Warlock's Curse.
Phelgethos if Flames of Phelgethos: (3d10 + Constitution modifier fire damage.)
Tyranical Curse if Tyrannical Threat: 1d10 + Constitution modifier psychic damage, and you place your Warlock's Curse on the target.
Did tree hugging become an international pass time when I was in a coma? How in the name of all that is good did the Druid become so popular? I have not looked at the 4th ed Druid, so maybe that it is it. The older versions really sucked, even with wild shape. Argh!
I stand by what I think is in the pipes. I do feel at this point good paragon paths are needed almost as much as completely new classes.
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arontimesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Did tree hugging become an international pass time when I was in a coma? How in the name of all that is good did the Druid become so popular? I have not looked at the 4th ed Druid, so maybe that it is it. The older versions really sucked, even with wild shape. Argh!
I stand by what I think is in the pipes. I do feel at this point good paragon paths are needed almost as much as completely new classes.
The druid is one of the Big Three classes in D&D 3.5, along with the wizard and the cleric. They're nicknamed CoDzilla, or Cleric or Druid -zilla because of their sheer gamebreaking potential even at level 1.
It is possible that I am just blinded by my sheer hatred of the class. In that last 10 years we have not had a single player pick one in a game, that also may be because of my hatred though. :P
I posted this above, but I think it will be warlock, druid, monk or paladin followed by the one it is not. This fits with the requests I have seen the most. Bard may be 5th, but I don't know much about bards in 4th ed.
I would pay to play a monk, but not so much the others. Along with additional classes, more races would be nice. However new races could be true hell on the art departments if they are the ones I would like to see.
My guess would be warlock or some other variant of classes like War Wizard. But what we need is another leader class. We have only cleric for that. So a bard, warlord, rune priest, artificer or shaman would be nice.
My guess would be warlock or some other variant of classes like War Wizard. But what we need is another leader class. We have only cleric for that. So a bard, warlord, rune priest, artificer or shaman would be nice.
Yes, obviously warlock will be the next one, or possibly Illusionist Wizard because that Renegade Illusionist companion looks like a teaser.
In regards to War Wizard, my opinion is the same as some other players, that with our current Control Wizard being so dps oriented and has some War Wizard traits, the possibility of seeing War Wizard in this game is nearly zero. They are more likely to introduce sorcerer instead.
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degraafinationMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited March 2014
I most desperately want a Bladesinger/Swordmage class. Will it happen? Not likely soon, but I have my fingers crossed.
Yes, obviously warlock will be the next one, or possibly Illusionist Wizard because that Renegade Illusionist companion looks like a teaser.
In regards to War Wizard, my opinion is the same as some other players, that with our current Control Wizard being so dps oriented and has some War Wizard traits, the possibility of seeing War Wizard in this game is nearly zero. They are more likely to introduce sorcerer instead.
think there is good chance we will see war wizard in game he showed up with battle cleric,scourge warlock and some other classes on ah in closed beta
I can't wait to see the Warlock released and everyone finding out it's just straight up worse than CW.
I was going to say that myself,
Right now, there's just no way a Warlock of any class would be able to compete with the CW, which is becoming more of a pure damage wizard at this point anyway. They nerfed the control part so badly, its become the Magic User of old.
Its become the old traditional Magic User of D&D. Which means the Warlock class won't even come close. It would be so outclassed in pure damage it wouldn't even be worth it to play.
The D&D Magic user is all about AoEs, like fireballs, and Lightning Bolts, and Meteor Swarms taking out literal armies of weaker monsters.
The Warlock can't even compete with that, as Neverwinter Devs nailed the Wizard class on the mark on this one.
EDIT: Honestly I'm not even sure why they call it the Control Wizard at this point it doesn't fit anymore. They should just called it the Magic User.
Well, I've been waiting for the Scourge Warlock myself, namely because I wanted to play something that felt more akin to an actual mage. While the CW has become more damage focused, and has received a fire spec, I still don't quite care for the feel of it, nor do I feel like I can actually throw a proper fireball. Not to mention that last time I checked the fire spec was basically a joke due to being unable to do a wizard's job in the last battle of Malabog's castle (ie being unable to use Maelstorm to interrupt Valindra). I'll also say that I kind of dislike how the Hunter Ranger still seems to be a better general ranged character than a mage, on top of having better defense, close combat, and general survivability (IMO).
Honestly I am a bit surprised it's taken this long, given that the Scourge Warlock was itemized in beta, and was "almost ready for release" at the mid point of last year. The only thing I can think of is they are waiting for a serious slump in the user base, and then plan to add in the new character class in hopes that it will bring people back to try it (and keep doing this with new characters as a way of maintaining the game population). That makes a degree of sense but isn't a lot of fun for those of us who are waiting.
was the scourge warlock on the test server?
does the warlock use the orb like cw?
No some bits and pieces for the Scourge Warlock were in the client but it wasn't released as a class , some armor peices did drop by accident but they were removed , one of it's paragon paths is called Hellbringer and it uses Rod and Pact Blade as weapons (though they may just be transmutation weapon skins because I think Wand is also in the client somewhere as a weapon).
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silverquickMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Well, I've been waiting for the Scourge Warlock myself, namely because I wanted to play something that felt more akin to an actual mage. While the CW has become more damage focused, and has received a fire spec, I still don't quite care for the feel of it, nor do I feel like I can actually throw a proper fireball. Not to mention that last time I checked the fire spec was basically a joke due to being unable to do a wizard's job in the last battle of Malabog's castle (ie being unable to use Maelstorm to interrupt Valindra). I'll also say that I kind of dislike how the Hunter Ranger still seems to be a better general ranged character than a mage, on top of having better defense, close combat, and general survivability (IMO).
Hmm not sure where you get that,
The only Ranger I've seen that could do comparable damage to any CW was one... and he had combined his melee with archery, so he'd use both. Which is kind of shocking to see when you're used to watching Rangers plink from the back. Suddenly you have one siting back the firing, then right up in the thick of things in melee and... he's outdamaging you when no Ranger has ever done that before.
The Rangers actual damage comes from a combination of both, because Archery alone can't compete with CW AoE damage. But when they combine it with their melee, it can be. That of course is the trick.
That said... if you have a realistic view and the understanding of what the Warlock class really is compared to the Wizard/Sorcerer class in D&D, then at least you won't be disappointed if its implemented. Because at this point CW can achieve all those things the old Wizard/Sorcerer class could. Which means Warlock wont even be comparable.
I would love for it to be the monk, but I could see how they would go with a caster. Because maybe they want to have 2 of every type to start. After maybe druid to fill in another support/healer role? ...
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mittensofdoomMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 247Arc User
edited March 2014
Druid will be nice. Tab to shapeshift (maybe a few choices?), leather gear, wis, dex, con. Ranged in humanoid form, melee in animal form. Paths can be more controller or more striker.
Love playing shapeshifter classes in MMO's. My main in PWE was Venomancer
Im psyched to see Warlock too, I will probably remake my dps tiefling DC as a warlock.
I would also like to see Avenger at some point. And Vampire would be cool but unlikely to happen
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oh ho ho! Chainmail for the warlock! This is good news. I was worried that between ranger, druid, rogue, and warlock, we'd have four leather armor users.
Don't be so sure. The HR gear there is also depicted with chain underneath.
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Actually I believe itll be Leather, but everything is subject to change. Its been a long time since it showed up. Really long time. -_-
Dammit, you're right. He said it was DC colors, which probably means he was just using the gear overlayed on his own cleric underarmor. Blah.
I mean, leather is true to 4e, but really? We don't need more leather armor wearers.
Destruction Wizard, Arcana skill (Warlock :U)
Devoted Paladin, Religion skill (Melee DPS and maybe Tank? Idk.)
I did put existing parts of names, since GF and GWF both have "Fighter" and use the Dungeon skill. This is what I expect, idk. I can't think in another class that would use the Thief skill.
Like this, post is from last year 05-09-2013 with data we got back then. Pure speculation with d&d info with the names some other user found back then ....
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I stand by what I think is in the pipes. I do feel at this point good paragon paths are needed almost as much as completely new classes.
Taking a break from Neverwinter indefinitely...
Paladin, and Bard would be the better choices however imho tho.
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I would pay to play a monk, but not so much the others. Along with additional classes, more races would be nice. However new races could be true hell on the art departments if they are the ones I would like to see.
In regards to War Wizard, my opinion is the same as some other players, that with our current Control Wizard being so dps oriented and has some War Wizard traits, the possibility of seeing War Wizard in this game is nearly zero. They are more likely to introduce sorcerer instead.
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think there is good chance we will see war wizard in game he showed up with battle cleric,scourge warlock and some other classes on ah in closed beta
yes i cant see any use of him if they do not nerf spellstorm cw to be more on pair with dps of mof
I was going to say that myself,
Right now, there's just no way a Warlock of any class would be able to compete with the CW, which is becoming more of a pure damage wizard at this point anyway. They nerfed the control part so badly, its become the Magic User of old.
Its become the old traditional Magic User of D&D. Which means the Warlock class won't even come close. It would be so outclassed in pure damage it wouldn't even be worth it to play.
The D&D Magic user is all about AoEs, like fireballs, and Lightning Bolts, and Meteor Swarms taking out literal armies of weaker monsters.
The Warlock can't even compete with that, as Neverwinter Devs nailed the Wizard class on the mark on this one.
EDIT: Honestly I'm not even sure why they call it the Control Wizard at this point it doesn't fit anymore. They should just called it the Magic User.
Honestly I am a bit surprised it's taken this long, given that the Scourge Warlock was itemized in beta, and was "almost ready for release" at the mid point of last year. The only thing I can think of is they are waiting for a serious slump in the user base, and then plan to add in the new character class in hopes that it will bring people back to try it (and keep doing this with new characters as a way of maintaining the game population). That makes a degree of sense but isn't a lot of fun for those of us who are waiting.
does the warlock use the orb like cw?
No some bits and pieces for the Scourge Warlock were in the client but it wasn't released as a class , some armor peices did drop by accident but they were removed , one of it's paragon paths is called Hellbringer and it uses Rod and Pact Blade as weapons (though they may just be transmutation weapon skins because I think Wand is also in the client somewhere as a weapon).
Hmm not sure where you get that,
The only Ranger I've seen that could do comparable damage to any CW was one... and he had combined his melee with archery, so he'd use both. Which is kind of shocking to see when you're used to watching Rangers plink from the back. Suddenly you have one siting back the firing, then right up in the thick of things in melee and... he's outdamaging you when no Ranger has ever done that before.
The Rangers actual damage comes from a combination of both, because Archery alone can't compete with CW AoE damage. But when they combine it with their melee, it can be. That of course is the trick.
That said... if you have a realistic view and the understanding of what the Warlock class really is compared to the Wizard/Sorcerer class in D&D, then at least you won't be disappointed if its implemented. Because at this point CW can achieve all those things the old Wizard/Sorcerer class could. Which means Warlock wont even be comparable.
Love playing shapeshifter classes in MMO's. My main in PWE was Venomancer
Im psyched to see Warlock too, I will probably remake my dps tiefling DC as a warlock.
I would also like to see Avenger at some point. And Vampire would be cool but unlikely to happen