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Began lvl 60 pvp and what did I find but OP Control Wizards dominating
azrael39
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Ah game balance. Not since Warhammer Online, which for a time should have been called, "Brightwizard and Sorc Online," have I come across a PVP class as unbalanced as this games Control Wizard.
You give a range damage dealer, all the CC powers in the game and expect that to be balanced.
This was a crucial, crucial error in judgement.
Then you make the combat zones completely open so they can always see you coming.
Finally you allow as many as five of them to queue together without limit.
PVP is all about which team has the most Control Wizards on their team as that class is OP in a player vs. player setting where the CC works as effectively as it did against NPC's.
You give a range damage dealer, all the CC powers in the game and expect that to be balanced.
This was a crucial, crucial error in judgement.
Then you make the combat zones completely open so they can always see you coming.
Finally you allow as many as five of them to queue together without limit.
PVP is all about which team has the most Control Wizards on their team as that class is OP in a player vs. player setting where the CC works as effectively as it did against NPC's.
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...you know there's a problem when your in pvp at lev 30(cleric) via a lev 25 rogue, standing there dancing in front of you while he takes no damage at all and you watch your life bar drain to death! All while he doesn't even cast a spell.
Uninstall until they fix their HAMSTER.
end of story.
I am uninstalling too.
no seriously, have you even played the game?
CC is for HAMSTER in pvp. lasts maybe .5 a second, sometimes resisted totally. damage isn't that great either, with exception maybe of a good crit Ice Strike (daily) that can do about 50% total damage to a weakened target. that's it.
obviously never seen a good rog in action. they can stunlock you forever (literally you can not move or do anything) and kill in 1-2 hits.
Also, @topic poster:
Are you sure you are not playing a TR or GWF going after a CW? TRs are very weak against CWs. Most guides on here say if you are playing a TR or a GWF to stray away from CWs. They are long ranged and you are close ranged.
I got pass lvl 29, game looks different somehow, maybe i should uninstall and read forum instead to see if my perception will change.
The very second they try and "balance" any class for pvp its going to damage the function of said classes in the PVE part of the game. Considering the current opinion many people seem to have about the difficulty overcoming the PVE T2 content does anyone even REALLY want them to start tweeking the classes to satisfy balance in PVP?
If you want balance in the pvp part of the game you need to use TEAMWORK. It is the only viable option in finding balance. 1v1 in any combo in this game, besides your own class, is gonna prove to be unbalanced in alot of ways, providing the person at the controls is competent.
I've had my *** just handed to me by GF's in the 50+ bracket on my CW. Juggle stunned and blocked to death. My best option was to run :P, which is really something that annoy's the HAMSTER out of me, when you are playing the CC class and your too busy getting up off the ground to cast is makes ya very quickly re-evaluate the popular opinion about GF being garbage......
TR has so many tricks its not really funny, but i have a pimped out lvl 60 TR so i know WTF they are doing and know when to unload on one and kill it providing i can stay alive long enough :P
GWF in the hands of the good player with good gears is not a real peach to deal with either.....
DC is just toast if they are alone, and or not getting proper support from their team.
As walk2k posted above, the CC does not last long enough to matter if it even lands. the only CC i would even consider using is the strangle or the push.
PVP is all about how good the people are, and how much teamwork they employ, not the classes being run.
Wait what is this? I just read in another thread a moment ago how Thieves dominate every class all the time. Which one of you are right?
Thank you for clearing that up! I wish everyone could understand that PvP is TEAM. Aka team work. There is no better class.
/rinse repeat in every single MMO ~
Go play a shooter then you can post on their forums about how unfair every gun someone uses to kill you with is OP and needs a nerf. Seriously, so called PVP'ers spend more time lobbying on forums than actually pwning anything. So tiresome.
Snipers need to be nerf, they kill me without me noticing them.
Also please stop spamming zone, say or whispering that your lost is because of an OP class. You are being out played or your team just sucks and doesn't know how the game is won.
I have also owned CW's and every other class in the game in pvp, OP whiners especially in a game in its infancy need to either figure out how they can be effective by trying other things rather than saying this class i broken or that class is OP because it doesnt play like my (insert mmo of your choice here) Wizard.
The pvp at 60 is far different from what you experience at 29 or whatever. QQ'rs like this have been responsible for ruining more game balance than that which they whine about.
Strong possibility especially when half your team consists of rogue bots. Even leaving the team and trying a couple other times I kept getting grouped with them. May as well just sit at spawn point for 7 minutes and hopefully you're the group leader so can kick them at the last second.
it's fine because beta. they will work it out.
Care to explain to all of us how the Rogue stunlocks you "forever", to the point where you can't even move?
To my knowledge, the Rogue has exactly 1 ability that both silences you and prevents movement at the same time (Impact Shot) and that requires them to be in stealth, meaning they can only use it once before waiting for their stealth to recharge. That stun lasts less than 3 seconds.
-Travail.
So let me get this straight:
TR overpowered
CW overpowered
GF sucks
GWF sucks
DC sucks
Hmm, yeah i have pvped quite a bit on my GWF and also have a TR, my friend has a GF and a DC. With teamwork rogues are food, and CW's are ignored. Rogues are great if they catch you unload you and kill you, as a GWF most of the time i can kill a rogue one on one, lose out on a few because of the users greater skill /gear or of course because of teammates.
CW i do not concern myself with their damage is an annoyance at most times and their ccs are quite annoying but very short lived. You ever played the original NWN then you could talk to me about a sorcerer and then you would know what overpowered meant.
GF are plain out powerful if they have awesome gear and a guy who knows what their doing. They can go toe to toe with most anyone. On the same note if you play a cleric, your job is to stay alive and hope your teammates will do their part in the damage department. Not everyone one is a dps class, why would you roll a cleric and want to outdamage or to 1 on 1 TRs?
Pcccceeeeeee
Nope... currently another thread about how OP Clerics are LOL.
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Lolwut? since when do rogues have a stun? they have daze abilities that lock out our powers but you can still move. now GWF, WE are a stun class, we pwn flat out, 3 hit kill and you are stunned the entire time? yes. whats that you're a GF? good thing i just have to add crescendo to my combo to kill you.