Well, experience from Cryptics earlier work means I'm gonna save some keys for the console-release and log in early. Profit!
And like huntgate, console players will get banned because they won't get the same leniency due to weeks of advanced knowledge of the situation.
but PC player and devs also had weeks of warning....
look heres screenshot from a bug report about it on preview server (if you go to that forum you can watch his video of doing it again and again on chars he duped https://imgur.com/gallery/dSL1MfQ
anyways my last post on subject.
--CRYPTIC you know your only way to effectively damage control this is to hand a mount pack out to everyone via mail A stuff up that you where told would about weeks before you let it happen, with how annoyed other bugs(changes to IL power functionality, disappearing items extra) have made people, you'll be lucky if even that is enough to not lose a significant number of players NEXT TIME PAY ATTENTION to the people who take the time not only to test your modules but record and submit video's to you about how broken a feature is--
cryptic at this point i question why have you even have a test server
I play about two months. I read about the glitch on Preview Server Forum. I read about the MASS Bans with Ravenloft. That's why I decided to stay safe, don't risk a ban and play legit. I did'nt using the glitch. Now I feel like biggest HAMSTER knowing of this glitch and not using it. Do I have to enter a glitch group? Is it guaranteed in future not being banned for using glitches? I am totally confused. That was reward for free worth more than I earned in my two months of play, just on click in seconds. Fairplay = HAMSTER. That's what I get about that issue.
it's not a glitch it's a bug. a glitch is something where you change the environment in a way that is not intended to suit your desires. a bug is something where you are playing normally as intended with an unexpected results. the players are not at fault for bugs and won't be punished for bugs. we are punished for actual glitching exploits. similar on the face of it but very very different animals. it's like a racoon and a maine coon.
well it happens every mod, why? because they hire developers that can't code, have no idea what they are doing, they don't listen to players who are testing the game and issuing warnings. then they panic when it screws up, and say how embarrassed they are about the whole fiasco. but little gets done, because they are already working on the next mod. now if i was paid to do a job, and did a crappy job, people would expect me to correct the work or refund monies paid. so how about from now on, when the devs screw up, they just return the salary they took for doing a HAMSTER job?..call it an incentive scheme to promote an idea most work places have -its called 'right first time'
I actually don't think I blame them for the shoddy programming. I was reading a thing recently about how a small game released his code and was getting flack for how poorly written it was, but then bigger names were jumping in and saying, listen all games are like this. it's basically bits of string and logs that somehow magically come to life if you look at it with your eyes squinted just right. in this case you have what, 6 (?) years of code going on. by many different devs over the years I'd reckon. imo the bigger wonder is they manage to keep it working at all. My husband is a dev (not a game dev but a dev) and I've heard him complain about the nightmare old code that has been worked on by many people with varying writing styles and trying to get them to conform and bugs that come up and gum up the system because of this or that blah blah blah.. (i start zoning about about here) but I look at the complexity of games compared to the stuff he works on and it really seems like it must be magic.
well it happens every mod, why? because they hire developers that can't code, have no idea what they are doing, they don't listen to players who are testing the game and issuing warnings. then they panic when it screws up, and say how embarrassed they are about the whole fiasco. but little gets done, because they are already working on the next mod. now if i was paid to do a job, and did a crappy job, people would expect me to correct the work or refund monies paid. so how about from now on, when the devs screw up, they just return the salary they took for doing a HAMSTER job?..call it an incentive scheme to promote an idea most work places have -its called 'right first time'
I actually don't think I blame them for the shoddy programming. I was reading a thing recently about how a small game released his code and was getting flack for how poorly written it was, but then bigger names were jumping in and saying, listen all games are like this. it's basically bits of string and logs that somehow magically come to life if you look at it with your eyes squinted just right. in this case you have what, 6 (?) years of code going on. by many different devs over the years I'd reckon. imo the bigger wonder is they manage to keep it working at all. My husband is a dev (not a game dev but a dev) and I've heard him complain about the nightmare old code that has been worked on by many people with varying writing styles and trying to get them to conform and bugs that come up and gum up the system because of this or that blah blah blah.. (i start zoning about about here) but I look at the complexity of games compared to the stuff he works on and it really seems like it must be magic.
its not just the shoddy programming or maybe with dealing with old code. This was an identified bug that was documented via video on the Preview forums for more than 1 week before the update. Even if they couldn't have got it fixed in time they should have disabled the box (which was obviously a very easy thing to do) before the update was even released. What pisses me off, and i am sure a lot of others too, is they ask us to test all this stuff and then completely ignore the people who do.
Oh well, count me as one who was watching the whole thing while laughing 🤣 I have 20 VIP keys at that moment and I didn't use them because let be honest I won't be able to sleep well, it feel wrong to do that, I even had time to write in alliance channel 😋 I only want to say this> I'm on #TeamStupidNoLegMount because I don't want to earn my 1st leg mount because of a bug (playing since May 1 2013) also it's true that Devs are the one at fault here, that's a bug who was reported a long time ago. Now the thing I'm worried about is that it looks like I'll never win a legendary mount because from what I've been reading so far, my RNG is different from other players, I guess it's not that I've bad luck but that the lockboxes work that way. I was hoping for a rollback so no one will feel bad about it, of course I know there were players who wanted to play the new mod and that there were players who were logging in earlier because of the exploit, so it'll hard to do justice, no matter what I hope the Devs could find a "good" solution, so no one will be mad... also I propose a Free Legendary mount for everyone, so no one will feel bad because of this bug 🤣 Have a nice day.
Well, experience from Cryptics earlier work means I'm gonna save some keys for the console-release and log in early. Profit!
And like huntgate, console players will get banned because they won't get the same leniency due to weeks of advanced knowledge of the situation.
That's assuming they don't fix it before we get it on console.
I would kill for even 1 10k power mount, but my rng has been such rubbish lately, that I've stopped playing lockbox lottery, and am just focusing on the game...
well it happens every mod, why? because they hire developers that can't code, have no idea what they are doing, they don't listen to players who are testing the game and issuing warnings. then they panic when it screws up, and say how embarrassed they are about the whole fiasco. but little gets done, because they are already working on the next mod. now if i was paid to do a job, and did a crappy job, people would expect me to correct the work or refund monies paid. so how about from now on, when the devs screw up, they just return the salary they took for doing a HAMSTER job?..call it an incentive scheme to promote an idea most work places have -its called 'right first time'
I actually don't think I blame them for the shoddy programming. I was reading a thing recently about how a small game released his code and was getting flack for how poorly written it was, but then bigger names were jumping in and saying, listen all games are like this. it's basically bits of string and logs that somehow magically come to life if you look at it with your eyes squinted just right. in this case you have what, 6 (?) years of code going on. by many different devs over the years I'd reckon. imo the bigger wonder is they manage to keep it working at all. My husband is a dev (not a game dev but a dev) and I've heard him complain about the nightmare old code that has been worked on by many people with varying writing styles and trying to get them to conform and bugs that come up and gum up the system because of this or that blah blah blah.. (i start zoning about about here) but I look at the complexity of games compared to the stuff he works on and it really seems like it must be magic.
As A cnc programmer/machinist I can't stand walking into to someoone elses old program. Especially when they didn't bother to leave any notes, or draw in the fixturing...
i dont see them doing the right thing while given out me or anyone a bta legendary mount with keys and vip that didn't exploit the broken box cause all i see them doing is not making anyone happy and i dont think that's rights for how i have alwayed played the game right so come on cryptic do the right thing
Since this was reported on test Forums, the really bad part is why did the devs not catch it? Someone did not do their job there.
But when it happened, and maybe 200-300 people did get free leg mounts, what options did Cryptic have?
* They could roll back, which would not mean much play lost, but which would mean 4-5-6 hours delay on the mod launch. That would not be good with a lot of eager people waiting to get into the mod. And that is assuming they did take a backup of the player database before they installed the mod, but I assume that is done as a matter of routine.
* They could do as they did, just block the bug and carry on, then look into it later. The problem of course is that people will open those mount packs, sell the mounts or the packs, reconfigure characters around the mounts, etc etc. So it is really no easy way to get that toothpaste back into the tube. That people open the Stardock lockbox must all over be considered a normal event, since it is one of the newer lockboxes, so there can be no talk of exploits and punishments.
While we all would have preferred this did not happen, the consequence of 200-300 free Leg mounts into the economy should be fairly short-lived. Some of those Leg mounts will likely end up on alts that otherwise would not get a Leg mount too, so not all of those Leg mounts will enter the economy at all.
200-300 players get a boost they did not expect and should be happy.
Other players are unhappy because they missed out, but really.. you can't go around and be unhappy because some people are lucky. This is on the same level as someone being lucky with the RNG.
Cryptic will likely lose some income from this in the form of reduced lockbox key sales or reduced Leg mount sale at next Zen sale.
People trying to sell (legit) Leg mounts probably will experience a Leg mount price drop for a while, but can just postpone selling. The Leg mount Zen sales has anyways contributed to pushing Leg mount prices down.
All over.. I think Cryptic handled this the best possible way.
It should never have happened though, in particular since this was on the Test boards.
Hardly. You're comparing a bugged occurrence that never should have occurred to an established working-as-intended legitimate RNG reward process. (Even if Cryptic's loot box RNG is utter tripe, and is one of those clear contenders for heavy government gambling regulation, but that's a discussion for another thread.)
So as a community we complain that we do not get enough Leg Mounts. And when the Devs mess up. They own up to it and let everyone keep their Leg mounts, and we as a community Still complain bout that? WTH? The Devs are horrible and extremely Lazy at best, but the community complaints are just as bad lately. No wonder why Cryptic just plows through and continues the status quo. The Community is basically bipolar and does not understand that Cryptic is not a work for free business.
That might make sense and be relevant if all players had gotten the same opportunity and not just those that logged in for the first 5 minutes of the new mod launch, and with some of those players possibly intentionally gaming the bugged system.
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I cant buy the argument of "they couldnt reproduce this internally". No.
They didnt pay attention to the bug report like other times. If you are a developer, and read the preview report, if you cant repro it internally at least you disable the lockbox temporally like they this after the maintenance and then look into it with more time.
This is a big error and they should recognice it. You cant sell from one side that you are hearing the community making new threads illusioning people with whats coming on and this kind of failures at the same time.
If they do nothing about it, the company send a worrying message to people who spend real money to buy items in the game. recognize mistakes and taking hard decissions is what raises the reputation of a company. Let things go and doing nothing is what hurts it.
Do nothing is not ok - i heard about people getting 1-30 or more and this on only "one" account so the only meaningful solution is a rollback. Maybe give the mount from the hellpit event to everyone (char- or accountbound) and all is fine.
Well. Much time passed now. Let's face the truth. Nothing will happen. It's unfair and it is a shame that honest players left behind with bare hands - but it is not a Game-Breaker to the masses. I congratulate all winners. It will be a Game-Breaker not to be treated the same way and keep all at the next bug party. Make sure you have 10 Keys ready in every moment. We missed here a big one, that's hard. Hopefully we get the next one.
Ive a question for dev, yu talked about listen community right? But yu read feedback a player have reported the bag and a video on preview forum... Its incredible yu not disable first the loockbox be4 the mod18 was up,i think this let us know how yu listen us , i hope will be a fix like bound to caracter all leg mount got on day 1 mod18 so they cant sell and if is in ah clean it its not that hard i think. Yu had chance to rollback all no one had blame yu for rollback except who got lot leggy mount lol.. but aniway i hope yu can find a good solution.
I agree and i hope you didn´t want to sit it out and do nothing... if so, i wish i would have had more criminal "gaming" energy in me to exploit your faults. If you let that go you need to really think about your last bans (error also reported on preview) and unban every player because they didn´t do anything else. And no answer/opinion is also an answer i think.
Ive a question for dev, yu talked about listen community right? But yu read feedback a player have reported the bag and a video on preview forum... Its incredible yu not disable first the loockbox be4 the mod18 was up,i think this let us know how yu listen us , i hope will be a fix like bound to caracter all leg mount got on day 1 mod18 so they cant sell and if is in ah clean it its not that hard i think. Yu had chance to rollback all no one had blame yu for rollback except who got lot leggy mount lol.. but aniway i hope yu can find a good solution.
That problem is solved anyways. New Meta is keep it secret and abuse it. Why would you share the Bug. It's highest Loot in the Loottable.
its funny how some ppl here are fine with players unfairly getting 200-300 million ad in a few min.
Honnestly : I don' care about few players ponctually making tons of virtual money (legit or not) in a free-to-play videogame known to revolve intensely on RNG, while the majority doesn't have the opportunity. This last "lockbox" event will change nothing for me.
Intersting enough, if a lot of leg mounts appeared on the AH due to the gift devs gave to the lucky ones during those 5-10minutes after mod18 was up, it's likely to make their market price a bit lower than if devs had rerolled back, and the real "losers" would be the players who are trying (or were planning) to sell legitimately acquired leg mounts. I didn't check yesterday, is their much more leg mounts available in the AH than usually ?
Personnally, if i had happenned to be one of those lucky players, and if i had acquired 30 leg mounts, then after the devs decision not to reroll I would probably have given away 27 of them accross my friends/guild/ally or make them prizes for my trimestrial ally Miss&Mister election event (sadly, it will only be, as usual, 99 prez wards + 1 coal ward + 1 rank 15 enchant for the 2 "winter season" winners. I hope the "losers" won't complain : i'm the only judge and jury to decide who win, and very prone to subjectivity :P ).
Ive a question for dev, yu talked about listen community right? But yu read feedback a player have reported the bag and a video on preview forum... Its incredible yu not disable first the loockbox be4 the mod18 was up,i think this let us know how yu listen us , i hope will be a fix like bound to caracter all leg mount got on day 1 mod18 so they cant sell and if is in ah clean it its not that hard i think. Yu had chance to rollback all no one had blame yu for rollback except who got lot leggy mount lol.. but aniway i hope yu can find a good solution.
That problem is solved anyways. New Meta is keep it secret and abuse it. Why would you share the Bug. It's highest Loot in the Loottable.
I, for one, am gonna start carrying 3 keys on each toon. Y'know. For Justin Case.
Since this was reported on test Forums, the really bad part is why did the devs not catch it? Someone did not do their job there.
But when it happened, and maybe 200-300 people did get free leg mounts, what options did Cryptic have?
* They could roll back, which would not mean much play lost, but which would mean 4-5-6 hours delay on the mod launch. That would not be good with a lot of eager people waiting to get into the mod. And that is assuming they did take a backup of the player database before they installed the mod, but I assume that is done as a matter of routine.
* They could do as they did, just block the bug and carry on, then look into it later. The problem of course is that people will open those mount packs, sell the mounts or the packs, reconfigure characters around the mounts, etc etc. So it is really no easy way to get that toothpaste back into the tube. That people open the Stardock lockbox must all over be considered a normal event, since it is one of the newer lockboxes, so there can be no talk of exploits and punishments.
While we all would have preferred this did not happen, the consequence of 200-300 free Leg mounts into the economy should be fairly short-lived. Some of those Leg mounts will likely end up on alts that otherwise would not get a Leg mount too, so not all of those Leg mounts will enter the economy at all.
200-300 players get a boost they did not expect and should be happy.
Other players are unhappy because they missed out, but really.. you can't go around and be unhappy because some people are lucky. This is on the same level as someone being lucky with the RNG.
Cryptic will likely lose some income from this in the form of reduced lockbox key sales or reduced Leg mount sale at next Zen sale.
People trying to sell (legit) Leg mounts probably will experience a Leg mount price drop for a while, but can just postpone selling. The Leg mount Zen sales has anyways contributed to pushing Leg mount prices down.
All over.. I think Cryptic handled this the best possible way.
It should never have happened though, in particular since this was on the Test boards.
Hardly. You're comparing a bugged occurrence that never should have occurred to an established working-as-intended legitimate RNG reward process. (Even if Cryptic's loot box RNG is utter tripe, and is one of those clear contenders for heavy government gambling regulation, but that's a discussion for another thread.)
It's not the same.
I wonder if people actually are this clueless. The initial comment i am referring to, OP thinks that the issue was all about price drop of mounts on AH and reduced zen sale xD. If you ask me, the message was, as long as the bug is reported, you are free to exploit as you desire. Why do i say this? Well, out of the 200/300 who got leg mounts, how many probably knew of this glitch on preview and tested it on live? How many that were originally clueless about the glitch, tried to exploit it when they saw mass legendary mounts dropping in their chat?
Makes me happy in one way though, at least the devs are more lenient now and also more responsible for their own mistakes. It could backfire though in the future.
i think not reacting is a minor harm - we all know well...but again they have to remove the old bans because they are now unjustified. And of course - if i did it on my own i would be happy a hole in my HAMSTER (as we germans said) Maintenance yesterday and now for hours- why you didn´t go the easy way? -why no rollback??? Maybe exploiting mistakes expressly desired??? - i cannot believe it!!! Here are players who spend money to keep you and this game alive. So whats the right side of the game? reroll and give everybody the hellpitmount (account or charbound) which anybody can farm anyway...a good solution in my opinion and you now - the most "new" players didn´t know whats happened during the 10-15 minutes
Despite the Millennials illusions to the contrary, life is not always fair. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
Unlike life this is a manufactured game which means it is entirely within the realms of human control.
A more pertinent question is: Why are you attempting to down play abusive/cheating practices while ridiculing and demeaning other people of whom you likely have little-to-no knowledge of?
-From a non-Millennial who is well aware of how the real world works
it may be under someone's control but there is still no way to make everything fair for everyone. they say "life" is like that because it's the same set of rules but perception/morals/world view is different for everyone. you can have a group of small people who will entirely disagree on what is "fair" some of those people really WOULD have gotten the mount. for those people this it would be very unfair to roll back .(and who is to say who those people were?) I personally am on team roll back.. but not anymore. the moment is lost. it needed to happen immediately. but I also don't think it's terrible that it wasn't. Imo this is on the tier of funny. not anger making. and it might be a good lesson for the devs in actually READING amd LISTENING to the feedback instead of the culture of dismissal.
I comprehend your point of view, but it doesn't pass muster in light of the well established miniscule odds of getting a legitimate RNG legendary pack drop. Is it plausible? Sure. Is it highly improbable? You bet, and since we know for a fact that the RNG on that lockbox was not working as intended the benefit of the doubt goes out the window when it is clear that it was spammed by various players.
A 5 minute server rollback was the only sensible and fair course of action. It would have restored the keys and lockboxes used while not erroneously gifting hundreds of millions upon millions of AD worth of one of the most valuable and sought after items in the game.
Alternatively, Cryptic has to do the legwork and examine each and every lockbox RNG roll during the time period in question. I don't care much additional work it is for them. They were warned in advance and ignored it. Actions have consequences.
I dont get the negative reactions from players... I just hope mr. @cwhitesidedev#9752 honors the tradition of gifting capes to everyone who "survived" the launchday mayhem
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Despite the Millennials illusions to the contrary, life is not always fair. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
Unlike life this is a manufactured game which means it is entirely within the realms of human control.
A more pertinent question is: Why are you attempting to down play abusive/cheating practices while ridiculing and demeaning other people of whom you likely have little-to-no knowledge of?
-From a non-Millennial who is well aware of how the real world works
it may be under someone's control but there is still no way to make everything fair for everyone. they say "life" is like that because it's the same set of rules but perception/morals/world view is different for everyone. you can have a group of small people who will entirely disagree on what is "fair" some of those people really WOULD have gotten the mount. for those people this it would be very unfair to roll back .(and who is to say who those people were?) I personally am on team roll back.. but not anymore. the moment is lost. it needed to happen immediately. but I also don't think it's terrible that it wasn't. Imo this is on the tier of funny. not anger making. and it might be a good lesson for the devs in actually READING amd LISTENING to the feedback instead of the culture of dismissal.
I comprehend your point of view, but it doesn't pass muster in light of the well established miniscule odds of getting a legitimate RNG legendary pack drop. Is it plausible? Sure. Is it highly improbable? You bet, and since we know for a fact that the RNG on that lockbox was not working as intended the benefit of the doubt goes out the window when it is clear that it was spammed by various players.
A 5 minute server rollback was the only sensible and fair course of action. It would have restored the keys and lockboxes used while not erroneously gifting hundreds of millions upon millions of AD worth of one of the most valuable and sought after items in the game.
Alternatively, Cryptic has to do the legwork and examine each and every lockbox RNG roll during the time period in question. I don't care much additional work it is for them. They were warned in advance and ignored it. Actions have consequences.
yet on the first hour of a mod drop you still see a stream of people getting drops. it's not like it's one drop an hour. it's usually one after the other. just not quite as prolific as it was.
Despite the Millennials illusions to the contrary, life is not always fair. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
Unlike life this is a manufactured game which means it is entirely within the realms of human control.
A more pertinent question is: Why are you attempting to down play abusive/cheating practices while ridiculing and demeaning other people of whom you likely have little-to-no knowledge of?
-From a non-Millennial who is well aware of how the real world works
it may be under someone's control but there is still no way to make everything fair for everyone. they say "life" is like that because it's the same set of rules but perception/morals/world view is different for everyone. you can have a group of small people who will entirely disagree on what is "fair" some of those people really WOULD have gotten the mount. for those people this it would be very unfair to roll back .(and who is to say who those people were?) I personally am on team roll back.. but not anymore. the moment is lost. it needed to happen immediately. but I also don't think it's terrible that it wasn't. Imo this is on the tier of funny. not anger making. and it might be a good lesson for the devs in actually READING amd LISTENING to the feedback instead of the culture of dismissal.
I comprehend your point of view, but it doesn't pass muster in light of the well established miniscule odds of getting a legitimate RNG legendary pack drop. Is it plausible? Sure. Is it highly improbable? You bet, and since we know for a fact that the RNG on that lockbox was not working as intended the benefit of the doubt goes out the window when it is clear that it was spammed by various players.
A 5 minute server rollback was the only sensible and fair course of action. It would have restored the keys and lockboxes used while not erroneously gifting hundreds of millions upon millions of AD worth of one of the most valuable and sought after items in the game.
Alternatively, Cryptic has to do the legwork and examine each and every lockbox RNG roll during the time period in question. I don't care much additional work it is for them. They were warned in advance and ignored it. Actions have consequences.
yet on the first hour of a mod drop you still see a stream of people getting drops. it's not like it's one drop an hour. it's usually one after the other. just not quite as prolific as it was.
just maybe that is because there are alot more ppl opening boxes when a new mod starts?
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look heres screenshot from a bug report about it on preview server (if you go to that forum you can watch his video of doing it again and again on chars he duped
https://imgur.com/gallery/dSL1MfQ
anyways my last post on subject.
--CRYPTIC you know your only way to effectively damage control this is to hand a mount pack out to everyone via mail
A stuff up that you where told would about weeks before you let it happen,
with how annoyed other bugs(changes to IL power functionality, disappearing items extra) have made people, you'll be lucky if even that is enough to not lose a significant number of players
NEXT TIME PAY ATTENTION to the people who take the time not only to test your modules but record and submit video's to you about how broken a feature is--
cryptic at this point i question why have you even have a test server
I would kill for even 1 10k power mount, but my rng has been such rubbish lately, that I've stopped playing lockbox lottery, and am just focusing on the game...
It's not the same.
They didnt pay attention to the bug report like other times. If you are a developer, and read the preview report, if you cant repro it internally at least you disable the lockbox temporally like they this after the maintenance and then look into it with more time.
This is a big error and they should recognice it. You cant sell from one side that you are hearing the community making new threads illusioning people with whats coming on and this kind of failures at the same time.
If they do nothing about it, the company send a worrying message to people who spend real money to buy items in the game.
recognize mistakes and taking hard decissions is what raises the reputation of a company. Let things go and doing nothing is what hurts it.
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Maybe give the mount from the hellpit event to everyone (char- or accountbound) and all is fine.
If you let that go you need to really think about your last bans (error also reported on preview) and unban every player because they didn´t do anything else.
And no answer/opinion is also an answer i think.
This last "lockbox" event will change nothing for me.
Intersting enough, if a lot of leg mounts appeared on the AH due to the gift devs gave to the lucky ones during those 5-10minutes after mod18 was up, it's likely to make their market price a bit lower than if devs had rerolled back, and the real "losers" would be the players who are trying (or were planning) to sell legitimately acquired leg mounts.
I didn't check yesterday, is their much more leg mounts available in the AH than usually ?
Personnally, if i had happenned to be one of those lucky players, and if i had acquired 30 leg mounts, then after the devs decision not to reroll I would probably have given away 27 of them accross my friends/guild/ally or make them prizes for my trimestrial ally Miss&Mister election event (sadly, it will only be, as usual, 99 prez wards + 1 coal ward + 1 rank 15 enchant for the 2 "winter season" winners. I hope the "losers" won't complain : i'm the only judge and jury to decide who win, and very prone to subjectivity :P ).
Makes me happy in one way though, at least the devs are more lenient now and also more responsible for their own mistakes. It could backfire though in the future.
And of course - if i did it on my own i would be happy a hole in my HAMSTER (as we germans said)
Maintenance yesterday and now for hours- why you didn´t go the easy way? -why no rollback???
Maybe exploiting mistakes expressly desired??? - i cannot believe it!!!
Here are players who spend money to keep you and this game alive.
So whats the right side of the game?
reroll and give everybody the hellpitmount (account or charbound) which anybody can farm anyway...a good solution in my opinion
and you now - the most "new" players didn´t know whats happened during the 10-15 minutes
A 5 minute server rollback was the only sensible and fair course of action. It would have restored the keys and lockboxes used while not erroneously gifting hundreds of millions upon millions of AD worth of one of the most valuable and sought after items in the game.
Alternatively, Cryptic has to do the legwork and examine each and every lockbox RNG roll during the time period in question. I don't care much additional work it is for them. They were warned in advance and ignored it. Actions have consequences.
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