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  • beerdrinker4beerdrinker4 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    does anyone know how to upgrade ur graphics driver
  • bartoneds34giibartoneds34gii Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    > @zebular said:
    > bartoneds34gii wrote: »
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    > I have had some luck starting in safe mode with -d3d11Enable 0 in the command line. Takes a while to load. Using win 8.x Gonna try it now and see if it still works.
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    > bartoneds34gii wrote: »
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    > Yep. I'm at my charactyer screen. I did do a force verify some time ago but don't need to do it every time. I do hope they fix this soon so everyone can play.
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    > Just be clear, what OS are you on? Setting the game to run in compatibility mode for Win 8.x is what worked for you this time? Did you also have the command line entered in the launcher options and did you also do safe mode that time?

    I'm using win 8.1. I tried a lot of things that didn't work then got it to work. at one poinr a tried the force verify but that didn't work. I got it to run by setting it to safe mode and putting -d3d11Enable 0 in the command line. It has stayed in the command line everytime I start it up so i don't have to re-enter it. I'm not a tech so I can't say exactly what got it to work. I'm new to Neverwinter so I don't know how common these problems are. I will say that even from the start (a few days before the stronghold release) I had to start in safe mode to get it to play.
  • ereeeec#1871 ereeeec Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    Cryptic way to go on the new mod!!! Home run i love it..:)
  • fluffyhairballfluffyhairball Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Advanced Startup Parameters are not being used nor is Safe Mode.
    Windows 10 Pro
    x2 MSI GTX 980 4g Gamer Editions running in sli.
    I turned within my nvidia panel (driver 355.60 is being ran) for Manage 3D settings the same settings this guy is using: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDM_LehhfU8

    I'm using ARC's Neverwinter desktop shortcut instead of Steam to run the game -- the shortcut has compatibility mode set to windows 7. After running the game and seeing my sli bar expand, I check all of my in-game settings and it's detecting Direct3d 11 and everything else is showing to be maxed out for the game.

    The purpose for this post was to not brag but the fact that I wanted to show/share how I went from having to use the suggestions for fixing windows 10 lag at startup/in-game to not having to use them anymore.

    Without compatibility being given for windows 7 mode on the shortcut icon that ARC Neverwinter install had put on my desktop, I lag, but with it on I no longer lag... it's weird but its currently working for me right now. :)

    I hope this helps people that could still be having problems... The specs I showed above was intended to be informative on what its working on with these settings...

  • thegreatmikeythegreatmikey Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    Sadly, as a technologically deficient individual I did not follow whatever that guy was doing at the beginning.
  • estrillavonestrillavon Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    zebular wrote: »
    zamouch wrote: »
    We believe this issue needs its own thread. The developers are currently aware and are actively working on a fix. In the meantime, here's a list of a few workarounds that other players have mentioned working for them.
    • Open options in the launcher at the top and type in -d3d9 or -d3d11Enable 0 into the Command Line. Close the launcher, open it again, then try launching the client.
    • Make sure to update all your graphics drivers.
    • In the launcher, click options at the top, click the Force Verify box and start the game in Safe Mode.
    • Once the loading screen has appeared, simply wait for a good 5 minutes without clicking anything.

    man I hate to be mean, but we're <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> players not techies or engineers, and even if we were it's your job to find the fixes, not for us to waste 48h going all over internet to find a solution to your mess; this is really starting to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> me off, do your job correctly. When we cash our CC in your stores we don't ask you to figure out the CVC on your own, even more we don't ask you to wait a couple days till we get money or find the right CVC. And the worst of it all is none of you said sorry, no official excuses, nothing at all, you're playing dumb wanting us to make the world believe it's all working fine, well guess what it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> not.
    Instead of flying off the handle into a rant, you should go back and read the second sentence in Strum's post. For once you do, you may want to adjust your post and tone.

    Are you kidding zebular, this should have been addressed pre launch AND if they are working on it why no updates!
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    zebular wrote: »
    zamouch wrote: »
    We believe this issue needs its own thread. The developers are currently aware and are actively working on a fix. In the meantime, here's a list of a few workarounds that other players have mentioned working for them.
    • Open options in the launcher at the top and type in -d3d9 or -d3d11Enable 0 into the Command Line. Close the launcher, open it again, then try launching the client.
    • Make sure to update all your graphics drivers.
    • In the launcher, click options at the top, click the Force Verify box and start the game in Safe Mode.
    • Once the loading screen has appeared, simply wait for a good 5 minutes without clicking anything.

    man I hate to be mean, but we're <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> players not techies or engineers, and even if we were it's your job to find the fixes, not for us to waste 48h going all over internet to find a solution to your mess; this is really starting to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> me off, do your job correctly. When we cash our CC in your stores we don't ask you to figure out the CVC on your own, even more we don't ask you to wait a couple days till we get money or find the right CVC. And the worst of it all is none of you said sorry, no official excuses, nothing at all, you're playing dumb wanting us to make the world believe it's all working fine, well guess what it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> not.
    Instead of flying off the handle into a rant, you should go back and read the second sentence in Strum's post. For once you do, you may want to adjust your post and tone.

    Are you kidding zebular, this should have been addressed pre launch AND if they are working on it why no updates!
    Why would they comment here until they know they have a fix and when it would be released. Any answer they give will be met with anger and rage, and if they make the mistake of giving and eta and being wrong, they'll get torn apart and called liars. If I was them I'd sit at my terminal and stick to coding and ignore the forums.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    zebular wrote: »
    zamouch wrote: »
    We believe this issue needs its own thread. The developers are currently aware and are actively working on a fix. In the meantime, here's a list of a few workarounds that other players have mentioned working for them.
    • Open options in the launcher at the top and type in -d3d9 or -d3d11Enable 0 into the Command Line. Close the launcher, open it again, then try launching the client.
    • Make sure to update all your graphics drivers.
    • In the launcher, click options at the top, click the Force Verify box and start the game in Safe Mode.
    • Once the loading screen has appeared, simply wait for a good 5 minutes without clicking anything.

    man I hate to be mean, but we're <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> players not techies or engineers, and even if we were it's your job to find the fixes, not for us to waste 48h going all over internet to find a solution to your mess; this is really starting to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> me off, do your job correctly. When we cash our CC in your stores we don't ask you to figure out the CVC on your own, even more we don't ask you to wait a couple days till we get money or find the right CVC. And the worst of it all is none of you said sorry, no official excuses, nothing at all, you're playing dumb wanting us to make the world believe it's all working fine, well guess what it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> not.
    Instead of flying off the handle into a rant, you should go back and read the second sentence in Strum's post. For once you do, you may want to adjust your post and tone.

    Are you kidding zebular, this should have been addressed pre launch AND if they are working on it why no updates!

    They said on another thread - fix is found, will be deployed next week. Sit tight.
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  • rekosmithrekosmith Member Posts: 1 New User
    guys please help me .. I still have freezing client ( LOADING ) ... I have windows 10 .. its was work with me but after last update its not work ...i read all of this comment but still not work nothing work here ... please guys help me .. ;)
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    zebular wrote: »
    zamouch wrote: »
    We believe this issue needs its own thread. The developers are currently aware and are actively working on a fix. In the meantime, here's a list of a few workarounds that other players have mentioned working for them.
    • Open options in the launcher at the top and type in -d3d9 or -d3d11Enable 0 into the Command Line. Close the launcher, open it again, then try launching the client.
    • Make sure to update all your graphics drivers.
    • In the launcher, click options at the top, click the Force Verify box and start the game in Safe Mode.
    • Once the loading screen has appeared, simply wait for a good 5 minutes without clicking anything.

    man I hate to be mean, but we're <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> players not techies or engineers, and even if we were it's your job to find the fixes, not for us to waste 48h going all over internet to find a solution to your mess; this is really starting to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> me off, do your job correctly. When we cash our CC in your stores we don't ask you to figure out the CVC on your own, even more we don't ask you to wait a couple days till we get money or find the right CVC. And the worst of it all is none of you said sorry, no official excuses, nothing at all, you're playing dumb wanting us to make the world believe it's all working fine, well guess what it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> not.
    Instead of flying off the handle into a rant, you should go back and read the second sentence in Strum's post. For once you do, you may want to adjust your post and tone.

    Are you kidding zebular, this should have been addressed pre launch AND if they are working on it why no updates!

    They said on another thread - fix is found, will be deployed next week. Sit tight.

    That really needs to get edited into the first post here then. I'm glad they got it figured out. Do you have the link for that dev post? With no dev tracker it's hard to find them.

  • cthoncthon Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    They said on another thread - fix is found, will be deployed next week. Sit tight.

    As stated above... provide link, details, and/or edit into first post. I've spent the better part of an hour not finding this post. After spending about the same amount of time playing in a postage stamp sized low res window where stuff is so mashed together it's hard to decipher just to get invokes and professions set up, and crashing twice doing just that, I could use some hope... some refunded VIP... and months old tickets to be answered... ah, I guess I'm just being bitter right now. But after missing most of Mod 6, and now not being able to play Mod 7, AFTER dropping serious RL coin on it... I'm feeling a little justified in my bitterness.

    Will this go into Test, or directly to Live? Details, please. Is there an intermediary fix we can apply directly, or is this only resolveable via patching of the game? I'm willing to test this, as I'm sure many others are.
  • dreampppdreamppp Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    next week? holy moses >.<
  • nickbittnickbitt Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    kretyve can yuo post link as to where they sadi fix has been found?
    They said on another thread - fix is found, will be deployed next week. Sit tight.[/quote]

  • kythrizairkythrizair Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1 Arc User
    While I'm hopeful that they did find the fix ... and that it will work ... it is more than a bit frustrating that we need to continue to wait for it to be deployed.
  • aiauszaiausz Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Down grade your recent Graphics card driver it should work if not try lowering your screen resolution not the recommended resolution until you can change in game to directx9 for another reason maybe.
  • kingarthyrkingarthyr Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    If they found the fix, why would they wait until next week? That shows the players who can't get in that they (the players) mean absolutely nothing to Cryptic, which means all players mean nothing to Cryptic. I'm sorry, but with such a glaring issue, the fix should be immediate. We had 2 inanimateness this week, one to add this piece of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, the second for some honestly minor fixes, but for a major issue they're going to wait until next week? That smells like total bull to me, which is also why no one has responded from our requests for proof it was said.

    Face it folks, it's just another Cryptic lie.
  • lady808lady808 Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    So, for anyone that read my posts prior. I was having launcher issues rather than graphics issues. It just wouldn't go past "Patching" on the launcher. Quite unlike most everyone elses issues. I clicked on the test server (Owlbear) on the launcher on a lark and it started a 15+GB download. This took about 12 hours to do with my connection (which isn't a slow one). After it was done, I clicked on the Live server button on the launcher. This started ANOTHER 15+GB download. It also got done about 12 hours later. I clicked "Play" and I ran into the same graphics issue that everyone else was/is having. I used the Safemode and -d3d9 workaround that was posted. I managed to get into the game and reset all my graphics settings back to what they were (sort of as I can't remember 100% what it was at before). I'm now able to log in and play with the same efficiency as I could before.

    So 24+hours later, 30+GB downloads later, and a whole LOT of messing around with graphics settings later... I can now play. As someone else stated before, it looked like the game just wasn't installed on my computer to the launcher. Which is odd because it's OBVIOUSLY there and was patched with mod7. Anyhoo... I hope this helps anyone else that might be having issues, or you can wait (and hope it works) for the patch going in next week (allegedly anyways).
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  • bartoneds34giibartoneds34gii Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    Years ago an airline did some research and determined that when there was a flight delay and the airline kept the passengers updated (even when there was nothing new to tell them) the passengers were far less aggitated and far more satisfied than when the airline said nothing to the passengers other than that there was a delay. Game developers take notice.
  • beerdrinker4beerdrinker4 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    so now there is a fix to this problem and it will fixed next week
  • cthoncthon Member Posts: 85 Arc User
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    Not sure if you're continuing to gather info, but this is one of the more common errors I'm receiving. Do you want the JIT debug logs?
  • hoppy52000hoppy52000 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    i jus rolled back to win 8.1 for time being, the safe mode fix should work on 8.1 til they upgrade for 10.

    Also ppl consider win 10 JUST was widely released, I worked in tech support for Compaq/ hp for 20 yrs..it takes time to adapt to each new OP sys, and not every bame is compatible! they may even need to rewrite the main program and do a new ver. Also some types of graphics cards or machines become obsolete and will NOT function properly. Can't blame the dev's they can't anticipate or fix every compatibility issue before they see it happen

    I know it sucks i have been unable to log in for 2 weeks but decided to just roll back you can always reload win 10 when drivers and a game fix are up
  • beerdrinker4beerdrinker4 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    well if hey not going to fix it then they need to make it up up me then
  • cthoncthon Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    hoppy52000 wrote: »
    i jus rolled back to win 8.1 for time being, the safe mode fix should work on 8.1 til they upgrade for 10.

    Also ppl consider win 10 JUST was widely released, I worked in tech support for Compaq/ hp for 20 yrs..it takes time to adapt to each new OP sys, and not every bame is compatible! they may even need to rewrite the main program and do a new ver. Also some types of graphics cards or machines become obsolete and will NOT function properly. Can't blame the dev's they can't anticipate or fix every compatibility issue before they see it happen

    I know it sucks i have been unable to log in for 2 weeks but decided to just roll back you can always reload win 10 when drivers and a game fix are up

    Or, also consider it's not just a "win10 issue". Win7-10 are all affected. Not obsolete equipment - as many people are reporting hardware that is still in production and release.
  • mefxesmefxes Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    This is not Win10 issue, driver issue or hardware issue.

    This is NW issue. That's it. Please fix.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    nickbitt wrote: »
    kretyve can yuo post link as to where they sadi fix has been found?

    I found it! http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/comment/12676957
    We have identified a few causes of this and have some fixes that should help out with some cases where this can happen.

    I don't know what issue is specifically causing this for you, but next week will very likely have a resolution for you. If not, please message me with your dxdiag information and we can look into the issue further.

    Panderus said they have a possible fix next week. If they don't fix it next week, PM your DXdiag info to Panderus (wait until the patch).
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  • dairiuschi3dairiuschi3 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    Can someone explain how to find my dxdiag information? Just in case the update doesn't work...
  • djinnrandjinnran Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    nickbitt wrote: »
    kretyve can yuo post link as to where they sadi fix has been found?

    I found it! http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/comment/12676957
    We have identified a few causes of this and have some fixes that should help out with some cases where this can happen.

    I don't know what issue is specifically causing this for you, but next week will very likely have a resolution for you. If not, please message me with your dxdiag information and we can look into the issue further.

    Panderus said they have a possible fix next week. If they don't fix it next week, PM your DXdiag info to Panderus (wait until the patch).


    I went on the thread and the exact cause of the problem wasn't stated. Are they going to release that information or just fix and not tell. From what I can gather, it seemed to be a loop that was happing in relation to the graphics engine. Its the best I can figure out, and I think we deserve to know whats up.
  • dreampppdreamppp Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    Can someone explain how to find my dxdiag information? Just in case the update doesn't work...

  • sidavsidav Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Have this issue since the last patch. Though I do get an alert from windows that the graphics driver has crashed after the cryptic load screen finishes. I can get the command lines above to work and let me into the game but damn is the game looking horrible now. Very pixelated along every edge of everything.
  • thegreatmikeythegreatmikey Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    Okay, a tech from Cryptic helped me get in. He had me do this:
    Hello,

    Thanks for the update. Please try downloading the most recent version of your Graphics Driver through here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

    Once done, please also try running the game in Compatibility Mode. To do this:

    Browse to the folder where the game was installed.
    Right-Click on the game executable (Neverwinter.exe) and choose Properties.
    Click on Compatibility tab.
    Check the Run this program in compatibility mode for checkbox, choose the Windows 98 or Windows XP option.

    Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

    Regards,
    JackHammer
    Game Master

    Yay! Thanks, JackHammer!

    However, once in the game it lags tremendously for a couple of minutes. Then I can play normally for about 20 minutes before it crashes again.
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