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  • piejalpiejal Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    As i already stated, i already accepted your apologies. You do not need to be that "obsesive". In fact, as i told you once: you should go, play the game and stay off from forums for a (long) time while us, PvP players, talk about the issues on PvP. Trust us, you class will be fun after we meet an agreement!!!! (and sad news for you, for now and besides you and some other HR players, all us agree that "perma root" a target must be fixed) :)

    BTW, I dont know if you know this (surely you don't for obvious reasons) , but you just typed almost the same math as i did but with a higher crit rate and more numbers (which are implied on mine, BTW)... But nothing can be expected from a player who only wants to play with a broken OP class due its own lack of skill.

    troll clown is troll clown even when they make mistake they will just shamelessly trump up story.. your name will be legendary as an idiot that cross in my way LOL
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    piejal wrote: »
    permaroot is counterable permadaze TR mod 5 is not counterable
    HR CR is not permadaze.. it's constant interupt and it's counterable
    TR being permaroot? so you must be a nub pug who don't understand there is encounter named ITC
    stealth reveal is not exists please don't make me laugh

    1. Like said, its been six months I've been telling you we're Whisperknives. You still don't get it. Ay caramba.
    2. So a MI can use ITC. What does a CW, SW, DC use?
    3. Sorry. Scoundrel "permadaze" allows movement, is not constant and has down-times where people are allowed to fire off powers in attempt for retaliation. Like I said above, you trappers locked me down 26 seconds straight, during the entire period I was;

    (a) mashing fast activating encounters, like Dazing Strike, in hopes that it would fire off in the daze down-time as the trapper closes in to apply more melee-activated CCing. Never fired off
    (b) mashing the dodge button in hopes of perhaps getting one daze off, but of course, didn't happen
    (c) then again, your fekking broken powers apply roots which is undodgeable in the first place. Woop-dee-too
    (d) so basically, in the entirety of those 26 seconds nothing was possible.

    stealth reveal is not exists please don't make me laugh

    This comment alone (actually, with ALL your other ignorant comments throughout the entire thread), shows how little you know about PvP.

    If you're wondering why you just proved to everyone - yet again - you're hardly qualified to talk about PvP, ask around. I'm done educating you. Yes, ask others what happens when a TR gets CCd in stealth. *snort*

    (ps) Did I mention my 1-time CC breaker doesn't break your bugged roots?
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Another loser trying to justify this garbage. Please refer back to pg 20 to see what category you fall under. I bet I can guess which one....
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  • piejalpiejal Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    1. Like said, its been six months I've been telling you we're Whisperknives. You still don't get it. Ay caramba.
    2. So a MI can use ITC. What does a CW, SW, DC use?
    3. Sorry. Scoundrel "permadaze" allows movement, is not constant and has down-times where people are allowed to fire off powers in attempt for retaliation. Like I said above, you trappers locked me down 26 seconds straight, during the entire period I was;

    (a) mashing fast activating encounters, like Dazing Strike, in hopes that it would fire off in the daze down-time as the trapper closes in to apply more melee-activated CCing. Never fired off
    (b) mashing the dodge button in hopes of perhaps getting one daze off, but of course, didn't happen
    (c) then again, your fekking broken powers apply roots which is undodgeable in the first place. Woop-dee-too
    (d) so basically, in the entirety of those 26 seconds nothing was possible.




    This comment alone (actually, with ALL your other ignorant comments throughout the entire thread), shows how little you know about PvP.

    If you're wondering why you just proved to everyone - yet again - you're hardly qualified to talk about PvP, ask around. I'm done educating you. Yes, ask others what happens when a TR gets CCd in stealth. *snort*

    (ps) Did I mention my 1-time CC breaker doesn't break your bugged roots?

    so you know there is encounter named ITC then? because i don't understand your part being root for 26s? mind to explain it further? now all of you makes sense
    how to counter constant interupt? i already explain it many times
    CW = repel
    DC = sunburst
    please read and pay attention to my post, even now there is no longer CW and DC that complain.. my guess is because they already l2p, so do i need to teach TR troll clown pug like you to be able to counter HR trapper and not being root for 26s?? LOL
    so 2s reveal is working then? and this is not bugged? shame on you
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    22 ****ing pages whining about the only thing HR has going for it.
    Not even taking into account 1 out of 2 paragons are barely viable.
    Not even taking into account 2/3 paragon feat paths are under-performing.
    And not even taking into account the comparably lower damage output a HR has compared to even a DC.

    Yes, nerf HR.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    **WARNING** Straight up Mockery in Progress
    "yes mod5 TR can perform permadaze to 3 class HR.CW,DC and permadaze is Scoundrel TR highlight
    so you say permadaze is OP? guess again.. is permadaze OP compare to what other class capable of?
    please look at you own class cheese mekanic.. because personaly for me my WK TR got no cc breaker, the worst damage dealer of them all, crappy DR, got no easy broken exploit that reduces recharge time so much, and no 100% deflec ITC"


    Of course, mod6 came, we were destroyed. You're trapper broken shi* is going down. Only a matter of time. Enjoy while you can.


    **WARNING** Hypocrite Alert in Effect
    ■ To all citizens of Neverwinter, please be extremely cautious for there are hypocrites around
    ■ If due to any process you've seen, or identified a hypocrite, please notify the authorities
    ■ Please do not approach a hypocrite, they are extremely braindead and volatile
    ■ If someone says one thing against someone else, but retains a double standard for himself, be suspicious



    ...I actually counted the seconds until one of you filthy, broken shi* HRs dropped a root on me. just to see how long it went.

    For 26 seconds straight, nothing was possible. Couldn't move even a step. Couldn't dodge. Couldn't activate powers. Stealth didn't matter since CCs reveal. Couldn't use any kind of retaliatory attacks, or Couldn't even throw a single CoS shot despite mashing the button.

    Seriously, anyone whose ever been in a fight against Scoundrel TRs know that the Trapper HRs are like three times worse.

    "uhh uhh but we can only root for max 5 seconds on ideal conditions!"

    Don't make me laugh.

    OK time for the reality check again.

    First of all 26 sec stright without dieing fantastic proof that 1 the Hr was far far from BIS for even a Hr can kill during a 26!!! sec cc. Its a lie ofc if you had heal they could easy have stopped the Hrs cc chain and if you where alone you would be dead before any 26 sec cc chain was finished.
    But we all know all you do is lie spread lies and write all over forum to read your own posts and hope some care.

    Back to reality of this Hr nonsence, here are some fact of what actually happens and how pvp looks these days.


    First 10 pages of leaderboard sorted under kills to get the most deadly players ranking and numbers.
    (Dc and Pal has been left out for obvious reasons even if pal is getting there when they are finished gearing up)

    Cw....numbers page 1-10./56 Total kills 87404 death 44203 kd/ratio 1.98

    Tr.....numbers page 1-10./52 Total kills 77 680 death 21546 kd/ratio 3.60

    Gf.....numbers page 1-10./29 Total kills 39932 death 21362 kd/ratio 1.87

    Gwf...numbers page 1-10./27 Total kills 43993 death 20431 kd/ratio 2.15

    Hr.....numbers page 1-10./22 Total kills 28419 death 17198 kd/ratio 1.65

    Sw...numbers page 1-10-./7 Total kills 11806 deaths 6836 kd/ratio 1.72


    Hr kd ratio worst even worse then Sw Tr ratio Best.

    Cw almost 3 times as common as HR and Tr almost 2.5 times as common as Hr.

    Of all these classes Hr kills less and dies more including Sw who all agree is in bad need of being buffed in pvp.

    This class is what you make threads about and make endless comparisons about Tr mod 5 whish is a true hypocricy as TR ruled like Gods in mod 5 while Hr are at the very bottom in module 6.

    These numbers dont lie this is the reality the Ranger class is vanishing from sight its a dieing class and yet threads like this speaks of how OP and broken HR is now lets see why.

    The only classes Hr is a real threat to these days are (drums) CW AND TR wooot.

    Could that explain why threads like this never dies could it be so that the CW and TR community want to rule unchallenged and have a tendency to scream louder then any other in their wants to be OP alone.

    Just a theory am sure the Gwfs community wont agree it never happend to them either .....
    and not to sw in pve either ......

    Ps as a side note if you take the top 10 of each class the differance becomes even more obvious where
    Tr get a Kd ratio of almost 9-1....
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    So kill-death ratio says does not matter if HR perma root daze is broken as long as other class can kill most?
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    k9madrush wrote: »
    So kill-death ratio says does not matter if HR perma root daze is broken as long as other class can kill most?

    Fact Hr kill least and dies more then any class (dc exluded)

    Other classes like Gwf Cw Tr GF kills fast enough so their cc chain dont have to be longer then a couple of secs.

    If you kill somebody in 3 sec during a cc chain or if you kill sombody in 15 sec during a cc chain its still a cc chain to death isent it.

    Now ask yourself whish are you more likely to survive?

    You can also ask yourself while your at it why is Hr vanishing why are Cw and Tr almost 3 times more common then Hr.

    Before mod 6 in mod 5 there was 3 Hr on the top pages for each Gf now its even less Hrs then Gfs 2 month later.


    I tell ya this YOU ARE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE.... but i guess preaching to the blind and deaf isent working.....
  • rebellionstuffrebellionstuff Member Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    guys stop being so blind with nerf hatred. its annoying you sound like little kids. if your a whisperknife tr thats your problem not hrs. cws have no counter hrs counter them dc has no counter hrs counter them now. before they were gods. im sorry your tr isnt a god anymore but deal with it. learn to adapt and overcome and stop asking for nerfs until youve learned how to counter them. its not impossible stop pretending it is. learn 2 play.
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Bugs arent installed to give you an easy button its not a call for a nerf its pointing out a bug. And you suck as an hr its why you need to use it. So, please enough with the l2p. You need to L2p without abusing bugs ******. You guys trying to defend this will have to shelf your HRs when its fixed because you are no good at playing HR without abusing a bug.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Bugs arent installed to give you an easy button its not a call for a nerf its pointing out a bug. And you suck as an hr its why you need to use it. So, please enough with the l2p. You need to L2p without abusing bugs ******. You guys trying to defend this will have to shelf your HRs when its fixed because you are no good at playing HR without abusing a bug.

    Tell me you dont happen to be a Cw abusing Storm and Lostmouth set would you? Or spelltwist or aborting repel casting it endlessly?

    Hr using gush+dott is undergeared no good free to kill nabs in Pvp thats the bug that can be abused but look at Kd ratio and total kills then come back and nag.

    For each hr there is 10 Cw abusing storm spellwist and repel.

    For those Hr using constict-hindering-fox plz point toward the offical bug on that i be very interested for you to find it dont be shy now plz enlighten us as its you 100th post about this bug of yours.....
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    What bug? It's really a "I don't like being hit with this wet noodle and I refuse to adapt" issue.
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  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Again quit whining and point out the bug. Does it do something other than what the game says it should? If so, what exactly.
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I main an HR and I dont need to abuse this to win. You dont point to someone else abusing a bug to justify that you should be able to do it too. You guys are lunatics to try and say that its wai. All youve done is let everyone one here know you're not a true competitor but that you need to abuse a bug because its the only way for you to have a chance because you are terrible without it.
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    And you're right in that they don't need to be nerfed. They need a serious boost. Then people wouldn't live for 26 seconds while being cced and then we could start the "hr's kill me in three seconds like I do to them and I want them nerfed" posts.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    morenthar wrote: »
    Actually, being a WK is not my problem. I actually do quite well, even against broken bull**** HRs. It doesn't make it any less broken. Just because I test and succeed with a counter-build, still, doesn't make it any less broken. Noticing a trend here? HRs need to get fixed. Not nerfed. We don't want them nerfed. If everything about the HR was working correctly, they wouldn't need the bull**** roots. It would be nice if HRs could acknowledge that. Just goes to show that everyone wants to keep their broken powers. So as a TR, I'm going to use everything in my arsenal short of going MI. The more you hate me, the more enjoyment it brings .

    Ok so all suggestion from Hr on every thread about that we gladly give up daze for piercing damage or a 60k hit encounter every 5 sec or actually arpen and control bonus working on roots does not count in your book.

    The major suggestion from almost all Hr is make root respect dodge, put an idc on daze IF and i state IF AND WHEN the other issues at hand is adressed NOT BEFORE AND ANOTHER 3 MODULES WITH ONLY NERFES.

    But all you do is scream NERF HR THEY ARE BROKEN !! NNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERFFFFFFFFF BRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOKEEEEEEEEN...

    And when you look at reality and real numbers Hr is the worst class possible with even worse stats the SW IN PVP.

    And on top of that you say Hr has a L2P issue and can only play due to broken abuse of a bug (whish actualy if USED MAKES YOU WORSE IN PVP).

    Says alot about those of you who compLain about the Hr class at all...........
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    all you've done is point out that you don't like something and are going to call people names because of it. If it's not wai, how so? Tell me what it is doing that it shouldn't. Not what you "feel" it should or shouldn't be doing.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    i main an hr and i dont need to abuse this to win. You dont point to someone else abusing a bug to justify that you should be able to do it too. You guys are lunatics to try and say that its wai. All youve done is let everyone one here know you're not a true competitor but that you need to abuse a bug because its the only way for you to have a chance because you are terrible without it.

    name the bug plz ................
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Omg point it out really? You guys are sad. You know, this was spelled out for everyone in a previous post. Its probably where you learned really.
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    So then it should be easy for you to point it out now.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    omg point it out really? You guys are sad. You know, this was spelled out for everyone in a previous post. Its probably where you learned really.

    name da bug or are you incapable of this ..............
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Its against the tos and would get this thread locked to do so. Which i dont want. I want every singl last one of you using this that are giving a bad name to the class to be exposed for the **** stains you are. So keep it up.
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    "Your honor I have no proof that there is something wrong but I will not let that deter my whining."
    Mod please close this pointless thread.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    its against the tos and would get this thread locked to do so. Which i dont want. I want every singl last one of you using this that are giving a bad name to the class to be exposed for the **** stains you are. So keep it up.

    so you cant name the bug all talk talk talk talk you cant name the bug tell us why will ya ....

    and plz enlighten us what is your MAIN HRS NAME
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    It's not against tos to point out that an ability is not doing what the description says. They even a spot called the bug section for that very reason.
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Scroll back thru the other pages if youre really curious. It was discussed ad naseum. Are you seriously telling me that when you lock someone up like that that you think its wai. That the devs wanted to allow someone to chainlock an opponent for 10 or more seconds until you can finally kill them? Really? And pleas dont try to say cdubs can hold people. Youre not a control ranger
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    scroll back thru the other pages if youre really curious. It was discussed ad naseum. Are you seriously telling me that when you lock someone up like that that you think its wai. That the devs wanted to allow someone to chainlock an opponent for 10 or more seconds until you can finally kill them? Really? And pleas dont try to say cdubs can hold people. Youre not a control ranger

    what is your main hrs name :

    What is the bugg is it gush+dott or something else confirm this

    I dont belive for a second you play Hr as main on high lvl so what is your name am calling your a liar and fraud prove me wrong.
  • timeforsquishingtimeforsquishing Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    You are the fraud my friend. Thats why you need to use this to be any good. Dont worry everyone knows now.
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