Gwfs were never able to kill tanks in 3 seconds like in the inked videos of godmode (see links) or solo karrundax whole dungeon and boss (see links).
Cws are with that bug, godmode in both pve and pvp after being dominant op in pve for 3 straight modules. Pve absolute opness for 1 year. Gwfs have been useless in both pvp and pve for a long time before sentinel regen tanks emerged. Even after buffs, in pve cws were stronger and in pvp permas could beat them first and fight them on equal later. In mod4 pvp hrs were stronger. So they always got competitors in both pvp and pve. Cws do not deserve godmode in both pve and pvp now, since they were already broken op in pve for 3 modules. Yet gwfs get a ubernerf on survivability and damage, while you get a brief godmode in both modes. And you still complain about gwfs. How does this sound?
devs are innocent like a children. or iam. i dont know.
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epclipseingmoonMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
because more people should play cws... I think thats the message here...
HR's got nerfed to the ground and are pretty stale in mod 4. GWF's needed changes but those went to far too. But good ole' CW's are back on top like it should be. GG.
Good thing class balance happened. Now cw's dont even need an entire group.. they can just solo =D Glad I made one so this game can be CW online.
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epclipseingmoonMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
So should I now just take the plunge and level my cw due to my two fave classes being close to worthless mod 4?
Next time gwfs happen to have a broken op build or power you can bet i'll squeeze the hell out of it, instead of feeling sorry for the other classes
Congrats, the evil side (all those roar/other exploits abusing guys) just won the battle. If they are ********, does it mean you should be one? Your choice.
As for CWs, I purely hate this class since I got acquainted with DnD but I the most ridiculous arguments I have seen so far were comming from this forum. FFS, people want to be overpowered and dominate over the other classes and still call it a MMO. Nope...
HR's got nerfed to the ground and are pretty stale in mod 4. GWF's needed changes but those went to far too. But good ole' CW's are back on top like it should be. GG.
Good thing class balance happened. Now cw's dont even need an entire group.. they can just solo =D Glad I made one so this game can be CW online.
Congrats, the evil side (all those roar/other exploits abusing guys) just won the battle. If they are ********, does it mean you should be one? Your choice.
As for CWs, I purely hate this class since I got acquainted with DnD but I the most ridiculous arguments I have seen so far were comming from this forum. FFS, people want to be overpowered and dominate over the other classes and still call it a MMO. Nope...
I swear I do not hate the cw. Now this has changed. this class now symbolizes all that is most hypocritical in these forums, players or devs. mmo is a business that deserves to be sabotaged.
Congrats, the evil side (all those roar/other exploits abusing guys) just won the battle. If they are ********, does it mean you should be one? Your choice.
As for CWs, I purely hate this class since I got acquainted with DnD but I the most ridiculous arguments I have seen so far were comming from this forum. FFS, people want to be overpowered and dominate over the other classes and still call it a MMO. Nope...
What I found ridiculus that pvp GWFs are roaming in CW forums even w/o having a main or at east an alt CW.
Ray of frost
Total damage: 182469
DPS: 2523.78
Average: 1425.54
Median: 1031
Min: 614
Max: 2253
Hits: 128
So that's a 43.75% proc rate for Storm spell, it's clearly not fixed.
Also based on those numbers the run was 73 secs, meaning that (s)he could kill anyone, in PvP, in 5-10 secs with Storm Spell alone.
Yea so RoF is a 5 second channeled cast divide that by 73 seconds, would be roughly 14 casts of RoF! 56 Spell Storm procs divided by 14 RoF casts = 4 Spell Storm Procs per cast. Which would = 5,952 x 4 / 23,808 damage.
That my man is HIGH! So 1 RoF = 4 Spell Storm procs for 23k damage not including enchants, RoF damage or any other encounters....
That needs fixing really fast!
Shieldbash60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard19.0k Overpowered60 CW~ Thaumaturge14.5k ==========================================
~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
(...) but they [Devs] must be busy with last minute stuff.
Was thinking the same.
It is also pretty unfortunate timing to leave broken feat at this stage of testing. I use spell storm since Open Beta and every test I would do now won't be measurable.
Well, I only hope for free respecs. But probably we'll have free feat respecs only. Yay for saved free respec from module 2! \o/
Bids he then the spruces to singer him an anthems!
And the Woodsie Lord binders them fleshes to stone!
It is also pretty unfortunate timing to leave broken feat at this stage of testing. I use spell storm since Open Beta and every test I would do now won't be measurable.
Well, I only hope for free respecs. But probably we'll have free feat respecs only. Yay for saved free respec from module 2! \o/
It is a shame about the whole feeling of a last minute rush on things which i am sure the devs do not like much either.
Also I have almost all my power points acquired from over leveling lol
funnier thing was to see all non-GWF-players coming to GWF's thread and telling us that our class is fine as it is from mod4 first patch, even they kept saying it is still balanced and a good class right now yet a lot of GWF-players will change into other classes due DEVS left the class itself as useless as it was in beta/mod1 following the opinions of most GWF-players here and on preview... so, something here is odd
Good, the people saying they're bad GWFs because they cant faceroll will suck as any class they play. Free kills in pvp!
Shieldbash60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard19.0k Overpowered60 CW~ Thaumaturge14.5k ==========================================
~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
thank god for the stormspell fix, (please PLEASE dont be a internal cooldown or nerf it to be worse than what it is live) just a reduction in damage slightly and fixing the double proccing would be nice
Stormspell has a fix coming in the final build version, check it out on preview later today!
Finally , good to hear , we have had days of people whining about the broken feat insisting that it would definitely go live even though many of us said it wouldn't .
Finally , good to hear , we have had days of people whining about the broken feat insisting that it would definitely go live even though many of us said it wouldn't .
Yes old chap , just deposit the 1 M directly into my Swiss bank account xD
i am happy your happy CW aren't getting that damage but if they fix it they have the potential to break 6 other things along with it
Gang Busters PvP Guild Recruiting When Mod 6 goes live Pm Me for more Info If you have any Paladin question Message Me and i will get back to you ASAP
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
What I found ridiculus that pvp GWFs are roaming in CW forums even w/o having a main or at east an alt CW.
I indeed got a alt CW for pvp called firefly. Level 60 and leveled to go to icewind dale. Was in my signature for months. Changed it to try other classes. You guys should only speak about stuff you know.
The final version of storm spell seems to be activation chance increased 20% (down from 35%) and damage increased roughly 100% (down from 200%) no longer incorrectly triggers off chill stacks. Just posted in today's patch notes.
Comments
Although the headers of the table are not visible you can guess which row represents what.
Storm spell
Total damage: 333323
DPS: 4610.8
Average: 5292.2
Median: 4576
Min: 2612
Max: 9990
Hits: 56
Ray of frost
Total damage: 182469
DPS: 2523.78
Average: 1425.54
Median: 1031
Min: 614
Max: 2253
Hits: 128
So that's a 43.75% proc rate for Storm spell, it's clearly not fixed.
Also based on those numbers the run was 73 secs, meaning that (s)he could kill anyone, in PvP, in 5-10 secs with Storm Spell alone.
devs are innocent like a children. or iam. i dont know.
Princess Amber - DC
Shieldmaiden Amber - GF
Valkyrie Amber - GWF
Huntress Amber - HR
there are GWF that play well without ROAR... but ROAR is good when you are ganged by 2 gwf and doin 1vs1 against him isn't so good.
Good thing class balance happened. Now cw's dont even need an entire group.. they can just solo =D Glad I made one so this game can be CW online.
Princess Amber - DC
Shieldmaiden Amber - GF
Valkyrie Amber - GWF
Huntress Amber - HR
Princess Amber - DC
Shieldmaiden Amber - GF
Valkyrie Amber - GWF
Huntress Amber - HR
As for CWs, I purely hate this class since I got acquainted with DnD but I the most ridiculous arguments I have seen so far were comming from this forum. FFS, people want to be overpowered and dominate over the other classes and still call it a MMO. Nope...
WTB Class Reroll please
I swear I do not hate the cw. Now this has changed. this class now symbolizes all that is most hypocritical in these forums, players or devs. mmo is a business that deserves to be sabotaged.
Nah. Spell storm will get fixed with tomorrow's m4 patch if not today.
What I found ridiculus that pvp GWFs are roaming in CW forums even w/o having a main or at east an alt CW.
IF this happens, and no statement was even worse. you test a error, pass the feedback and then your help is ruled without any satisfaction.
I pray this happens because the lack of communication from the devs is a bit eerie for my taste but they must be busy with last minute stuff.
Yea so RoF is a 5 second channeled cast divide that by 73 seconds, would be roughly 14 casts of RoF! 56 Spell Storm procs divided by 14 RoF casts = 4 Spell Storm Procs per cast. Which would = 5,952 x 4 / 23,808 damage.
That my man is HIGH! So 1 RoF = 4 Spell Storm procs for 23k damage not including enchants, RoF damage or any other encounters....
That needs fixing really fast!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Was thinking the same.
It is also pretty unfortunate timing to leave broken feat at this stage of testing. I use spell storm since Open Beta and every test I would do now won't be measurable.
Well, I only hope for free respecs. But probably we'll have free feat respecs only. Yay for saved free respec from module 2! \o/
It is a shame about the whole feeling of a last minute rush on things which i am sure the devs do not like much either.
Also I have almost all my power points acquired from over leveling lol
Good, the people saying they're bad GWFs because they cant faceroll will suck as any class they play. Free kills in pvp!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
==========================================
~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Nice to hear (and expected). What about the ability to spam repel by teleporting?
Finally , good to hear , we have had days of people whining about the broken feat insisting that it would definitely go live even though many of us said it wouldn't .
Yes old chap , just deposit the 1 M directly into my Swiss bank account xD
i am happy your happy CW aren't getting that damage but if they fix it they have the potential to break 6 other things along with it
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
I indeed got a alt CW for pvp called firefly. Level 60 and leveled to go to icewind dale. Was in my signature for months. Changed it to try other classes. You guys should only speak about stuff you know.
I hope its already fixed, because its totally different then it was 2 days ago, its nerfed to hell. how it is on preview now is pretty much necessary