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graalx3
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Artifact Equipment
As many of you may have read we are going to be putting out a new category of artifacts in the Tyranny of Dragons module. This new equipment will initially include 6 different belts and 21 new weapons, 3 for each class. These new artifacts will start with stats roughly equivalent to Fury of the Feywild top end items and grow in power from there.
Refinement
These artifacts will use the familiar Item Refinement interface. The primary difference being that other equipment is used to refine these artifacts rather than enchantments. Basically anything that can be equipped in the 12 slots on your character sheet can be used to empower these artifact. There are a few important restrictions. The item must have a minimum required level of 60 and also it must be identified. Items equippable in the main hand slot will give double RP for artifact weapons. Items equippable in the waist slot will give double RP for artifact belts.
These artifacts will accept the various refining stones that are used for enchantments and artifacts, but they won't accept original artifacts. Artifact equipment is its own category for purposes of bonuses. There will be a new type of refining stone that will give x5 RP for artifact equipment.
QualityBase RP
Uncommon100
Rare300
Epic 450
Epic Tier 1 575
Epic Tier 2 650
Artifact Belts
Each artifact belt will give a bonus to a base attribute, Strength, Wisdom, Dexterity etc. There is an artifact belt for each of the base attributes. The bonus given starts at +1 and will go up +1 for every quality level, maxing out at +4 at Legendary quality. Artifact belts will not be able to be equipped on companions.
Artifact Weapons
In addition to its damage rating and stats that they give each of the artifact weapons will give a minor increase of some kind to one of the at-wills of that class. The three weapons for each class will correspond to the three at-will powers that are not part of a paragon path.
As many of you may have read we are going to be putting out a new category of artifacts in the Tyranny of Dragons module. This new equipment will initially include 6 different belts and 21 new weapons, 3 for each class. These new artifacts will start with stats roughly equivalent to Fury of the Feywild top end items and grow in power from there.
Refinement
These artifacts will use the familiar Item Refinement interface. The primary difference being that other equipment is used to refine these artifacts rather than enchantments. Basically anything that can be equipped in the 12 slots on your character sheet can be used to empower these artifact. There are a few important restrictions. The item must have a minimum required level of 60 and also it must be identified. Items equippable in the main hand slot will give double RP for artifact weapons. Items equippable in the waist slot will give double RP for artifact belts.
These artifacts will accept the various refining stones that are used for enchantments and artifacts, but they won't accept original artifacts. Artifact equipment is its own category for purposes of bonuses. There will be a new type of refining stone that will give x5 RP for artifact equipment.
QualityBase RP
Uncommon100
Rare300
Epic 450
Epic Tier 1 575
Epic Tier 2 650
Artifact Belts
Each artifact belt will give a bonus to a base attribute, Strength, Wisdom, Dexterity etc. There is an artifact belt for each of the base attributes. The bonus given starts at +1 and will go up +1 for every quality level, maxing out at +4 at Legendary quality. Artifact belts will not be able to be equipped on companions.
Artifact Weapons
In addition to its damage rating and stats that they give each of the artifact weapons will give a minor increase of some kind to one of the at-wills of that class. The three weapons for each class will correspond to the three at-will powers that are not part of a paragon path.
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The RPs for Purples seems a bit low though.
Is there a multiplier for refining belts into the Artifact Belts and weapons into the Artifact Weapons?
Any chance of sharing just how many RPs we're looking at to raise these things up?
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In melee stance, our offhand IS our mainhand. Damage calculations are based off the offhand weapon dps stat. Not to mention there are now combat spec feats that are based directly on offhand weapon damage.
Are we going to be missing out on a boost to half of our encounters?
Already answered in the first paragraph on refinement. Yes.
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Just making artifact weapons refinement seems like a wasted opportunity to differentiate them from artifacts and normal weapons.
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Make them stack, I don't have enough bagspace for 4000 belts.
I also agree with the sentiment, that the Epic items grant too few RP for the artifact to really be worthwhile considering they are worth more in salvage.
And how much RP would they give?
No, but you can use refinement stones like Peridot etc.
If the 'Artifact' Bows get Damage increases, this means Hunter Rangers and Trickster Rogues will be at a severe disadvantage.
While I am not fully sure how the 'effective' Weapon damage on the Rogue is calculated, the Mainhand (Bow) and Offhand (Blades/Hatchets) on the Hunter Ranger are, concerning their Weapon Damage ('Damage Rating') standalone.
During Melee Stance, the only things that the HR's Main Hand gives them are the Stats, Weapon Enchant ('Pink Slot'), normal Enchant, and in case of the At-Will Bonus on Legendary Weapons, this Bonus. Technically, while in 'Melee Stance', the 'Offhand' Hatchets/Blades ARE the Mainhand, with 1 Difference - the Weapon Enchant is limited to being tacked onto the Bow, but it still applies properly.
This means that the Melee Weapon, classified as 'Offhand' for Hunter Rangers, is no longer in Line with the delicate balance between Attack Speed and Attack Damage.
The same applies to Archery or Ranged Stance on Trappers. THEY benefit from the Enchant Slot and the Stats on the Offhand, the Normal Enchant on the Offhand, the Weapon Enchant, Normal Enchant and Stats on the Mainhand/Bow, and the At-Will Boost - PLUS the added Benefit of the Damage Increases from the, as the Weapon grows, 'Damage Rating' Increase.
Base Concept for it is all fine and dandy, execution of it is, in my opinion, abysmal and a complete oversight. I wonder if the Mechanic was design by anyone who actually knows how Classes work, with their Weapons.
Rogues and Rangers both have actual 'Weapon Damage' on their Offhands, which is no longer, as before Module 3, Additive with Power.
In the old system, an increase of what I got told of 38 Damage would not have been significant, as long as 20 Power = 1 Weapon Min and Max Damage. However, now that Power is Multiplicative, it is more significant.
As an example, my HR, right now, on Preview, with her Power Stat, would gain a flat on 297 Damage to Minimum and Maximum Damage on both Blades and Bow. Using the Module3 Formula of roughly 166 Power = 1% Multiplicative Damage, she would gain 35.8% Damage, rounded.
This means, for the old system:
716 - 876 Damage from the Artifact Bow, 1013 - 1173
686 - 838 Damage from the currently, outside of Artifact Weapons 'Best' Bow: 983 - 1135 Damage.
411 - 503 Damage for the 'Best Blade': 708 - 800 No Artifact Damage Rating applied.
New System:
716 - 878 Artifact Bow -> 972.3 - 1192 -> Increase of 40.7 - 54 Damage over the current 'Best in Slot' Weapons
686 - 838 Tier 2.5 Bow -> 931.6 - 1138
411 - 503 TIer 2.5 Blade -> 558.1 - 683
Not only did the HR Offhand lose 149.9 - 117 Damage, while Ranged only lost 51.4 Damage on the low End, but Ranged actually GAINED 3 Points more Maximum Damage, but with the 'Artifact' Bows now, the Melee Stance on Combat, which is currently very controversial anyway, is denied its proportional benefits from upgrading the Artifact Weapon.
Based on the values displayed, even the Bonus to the Melee Component of an At-Will cannot compensate here.
I can only repeat it over and over, the seemingly LOW and neglectable 'Bonus' of 38 Minimum and Maximum Damage actually ends up bigger after the multiplicative Bonuses from basically every Feat and especially from Power is applied.
Please otherwise this new system defeats its own purpose for the epic weapons being used as rp.
Either way, still a solid use for old weapons/armor/items!
Rank 2 needs 560 or one rare weapon
Rank 16 needs 8400 or 14 rare weapons
Rank 36 needs 56000 or 94 rare weapons
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2. How does the weapon artifact work for TR? They lose half the damage? Or do they gain extra damage?
3. How much RP does Legendary need?
4. Can you use normal enchantments?
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On the preview server they are acquired through the Cult of the Dragon Campaign. One of the final tasks you unlock is that you can trade in a bunch of materials you've collected over the course of the campaign (Dragon Hoard Coins, Bones, etc.) for a chest. The chest contains the weapon artifact. I haven't gotten it, but I assume that at that time you can pick which of the three you want. Unless they radically depart from precedent they'll be bind on pickup.
You use armor/weapons instead of enchants. The only question that really needs to be answered is if the 2x bonus counts for any weapon -> any weapon or if its GWF weapon -> GWF weapon (if its class locked on the weapons for the bonus).
The refining points for epic items seems too low compared to the rare and uncommon items. A player can wander around Sharandar, the Dread Ring, or Icewind Dale for 20 minutes and acquire 5-10 rare weapons/armor. That's 1500-3000 refining points in 20 minutes. Epic equipment can't be farmed at that rate. I think most people will end up salvaging or selling their epic items on the Auction house then buying peridots or other refining items. Either the RP you get from epics should be raised or the RP from Rare's and Uncommon's should be lowered, depending on how long you want it to take for a player to upgrade these.
It's a clever way to tie the prices of equipment and enchantments together, though. This will also help people who are trying to make AD as they'll be able to sell rare equipment on the Auction House for better prices.
We have added a power to all Hunter Ranger artifact bows that will increase melee damage.
Artifact weapons will be bind on pickup. Artifact Belts are bind on equip.
Enchantments can not be used to refine Artifact equipment.
Does this include Peridots and anything similar to it?
Rank
RP to next Rank
1
560
15
8400
35
65000
does the TR get the same?