What good is having the ability to refine it faster after you already have your gear? Any smart person will do what they need to do while snoozing in bed dreaming of all things neverwinter.
Because you need to use processed black ice to keep your black ice gear empowered , once you empower the gear to purified or corrupt it is on a timer , the timer runs down whenever you are using the gear so you need a constant supply of purified black ice to keep your gear empowered , if it was just a case of only needing processed black ice to make the gear then that is it then it wouldn't be a problem but the constant need to use processed black ice to keep gear enhanced is why there is a issue with only letting non spenders have one gauntlet .
Because you need to use processed black ice to keep your black ice gear empowered , once you empower the gear to purified or corrupt it is on a timer , the timer runs down whenever you are using the gear so you need a constant supply of purified black ice to keep your gear empowered , if it was just a case of only needing processed black ice to make the gear then that is it then it wouldn't be a problem but the constant need to use processed black ice to keep gear enhanced is why there is a issue with only letting non spenders have one gauntlet .
I understand the mechanics of it. I do not understand all the drama on the threads. 1. We do not yet know the true base stats or empowered stats. 2. We do not yet know how much refined ice we need to recharge the gear. Yet way too many people on these forums make wild assumptions.
Yes indeed. At this point one has to assume that one Gauntlet is enough to keep a full set of gear (armor, weapon and jewelry) empowered. That said, I hope it's considerably less than the max you can refine (3k or so), because as someone with 8+ 60s farming that much Black Ice per day is just not possible.
But since the armor only drains while in combat and I normally only play one or two toons simultaneously it should be manageable.
A full list to go with mehguys video
Offhand 3000
Main weapon 4500
Boots 3000
Arms 3000
Armor 4500
Helm 3000
That's for a 7 hour charge , most players will use that in a matter of a few playsessions , especially pvpers then they have to mine and refine another 21k black ice and that's just for one armor set and one weapon set , jewelry not included.....
And remember there are 2 sets that you will need to be fully effective plus we don't know if jewelry needs to be enhanced constantly ,Good luck keeping up with that with one gauntlet and one refining task ,unless of course you plan on making the stuff to stand round town in and never use in combat.
A full list to go with mehguys video
Offhand 3000
Main weapon 4500
Boots 3000
Arms 3000
Armor 4500
Helm 3000
And remember there are 2 sets that you will need to be fully effective plus we don't know if jewelry needs to be enhanced constantly ,Good luck keeping up with that with one gauntlet and one refining task ,unless of course you plan on making the stuff to stand round town in and never use in combat.
this looks way to much even if we could use 4-5 tasks in the same time we would still lose more then we could earn black ice in 6 hours
and this could be only how much u need from rank 2-3 not whole from 1-3
this looks way to much even if we could use 4-5 tasks in the same time we would still lose more then we could earn black ice in 6 hours
and this could be only how much u need from rank 2-3 not whole from 1-3
Exactly that's why I have been asking the developers for answers for 4 days now , this is a idiotic system, especially if they are only providing us one starter gauntlet.
Is the ability to reifine black ice still broken after using the task one time? I no longer have the task after completing it once.
I believe it is. Although, from reading I see some people haven't had the issue. I'm surprised a quick fix hasn't been issued or the issue itself addressed as it's hampering people from actually testing, which is kind of the point.
If anyone has a clear address on this issue, let me hear.
Is the ability to reifine black ice still broken after using the task one time? I no longer have the task after completing it once.
I've seen a few people who haven't had this issue, but most (including myself) do have it. It's really annoying not to be able to refine because most of us would like to try the new gear. Is there any word whether this will be corrected next week when the other changes go into effect on the preview? I certainly hope so!
I have been able to process the black Ice once and then gone. I have been trying to get the splinter from the heroic Encounters and after 40 of them still have not gotten one. I have opened 25 professions booster and did not get anything that benefits this profession. All of my chill guys have been upgraded to the smith because that is all that is available. I have submitted a few bug reports each day hoping to get a response about this.
I've seen a few people who haven't had this issue, but most (including myself) do have it. It's really annoying not to be able to refine because most of us would like to try the new gear. Is there any word whether this will be corrected next week when the other changes go into effect on the preview? I certainly hope so!
It'll probably be fixed when last weeks canceled patch is patched in ,it was supposed to be on Friday but they had to cancel it , some new processing tasks are being added too ,its in the patch notes .
I have been able to process the black Ice once and then gone. I have been trying to get the splinter from the heroic Encounters and after 40 of them still have not gotten one. I have opened 25 professions booster and did not get anything that benefits this profession. All of my chill guys have been upgraded to the smith because that is all that is available. I have submitted a few bug reports each day hoping to get a response about this.
I think the tooltip for the splinter is either misleading or wrong ,I think the splinter drops in either the Dwarf valley map heroic encounters or the epic skirmish.
Profession Booster Packs doesn't drop Gauntlets or Cryomancers. Has anybody else tested this? I had no luck with 60. Could be RNG though.
There will be a Black Ice Shaping Booster Pack with assets and resources limited to only Black Ice Shaping. The current plan is to not have the Profession Booster Packs and Profession Asset Packs include Black Ice Shaping items.
There will be a Black Ice Shaping Booster Pack with assets and resources limited to only Black Ice Shaping. The current plan is to not have the Profession Booster Packs and Profession Asset Packs include Black Ice Shaping items.
LOL! all the players who have stockpiled profession boosters just for this profession are going to love this one.
There will be a Black Ice Shaping Booster Pack with assets and resources limited to only Black Ice Shaping. The current plan is to not have the Profession Booster Packs and Profession Asset Packs include Black Ice Shaping items.
This is good news actually. Well, its better than what I was fearing wherein those who stockpiled profession packs will get a headstart.
We will look into the Black Ice Splinter drop rates. With a (very) cursory look at the reward tables it looks like it should drop at the same rate as Black Ice Spines and Black Ice Bands.
We will look into the Black Ice Splinter drop rates. With a (very) cursory look at the reward tables it looks like it should drop at the same rate as Black Ice Spines and Black Ice Bands.
There must be a problem then , I haven't had one drop so far from either Icewind pass or Dwarf valley , I've had every other green and blue crafting material drop ,its just the purple quality epic crafting materials which should be quite rare and the Ice splinters that I haven't had any of yet , the ice splinters seem to be either uber rare or just not dropping at all at the moment.
Edit : Yeah I just logged on to double check the name , Black Ice Splinter , it's a green crafting material and I haven't had one drop so far , I have like 50-60 of the other green quality black ice materials and 20-30 of the blue quality black ice crafting materials but not one black ice splinter so far so they can't be dropping for some reason , can I ask , are they supposed to drop from heroic encounters in both new maps or just Dwarf valley Heroic encounters?
There will be a Black Ice Shaping Booster Pack with assets and resources limited to only Black Ice Shaping. The current plan is to not have the Profession Booster Packs and Profession Asset Packs include Black Ice Shaping items.
Is this a confirmation that we only have one free gauntlet and have to pay to get more, ie buy and empower our black ice gear?
Is this a confirmation that we only have one free gauntlet and have to pay to get more, ie buy and empower our black ice gear?
I doubt you'll get a answer , he has obviously read the last few pages and chosen to ignore me asking the same question so it looks like it is one gauntlet lol , looks like Black ice gear is going to be Sunday best , i.e wear in town and never use it for it's intended purpose , at least to start with , I imagine the black ice assets will be uber expensive to start with due to the fact they are vital if you want to remain competitive but hopefully they will drop in price after a month or two, nice....
We will look into the Black Ice Splinter drop rates. With a (very) cursory look at the reward tables it looks like it should drop at the same rate as Black Ice Spines and Black Ice Bands.
Not what I am seeing...plenty of spines and bands, Twisted and Faceted green ones, and a much smaller number of Blue cores ... not a single green Splinter so far.
There must be a problem then , I haven't had one drop so far from either Icewind pass or Dwarf valley , I've had every other green and blue crafting material drop ,its just the epic crafting materials which should be quite rare and the Ice splinters , the ice splinters seem to be either uber rare or just not dropping at all at the moment.
Edit : Yeah I just logged on to double check the name , Black Ice Splinter , it's a green crafting material and I haven't had one drop so far , I have like 50-60 of the other green black ice materials and 20-30 of the blue crafting materials but not one black ice splinter so far so they can't be dropping for some reason , can I ask , are they supposed to drop from heroic encounters in both new maps or just Dwarf valley Heroic encounters?
I can't access the normal zen store from the preview, so I can't even test that.
Don't buy any regular profession packs if you want the black ice assets and materials , there is going to be a special black ice profession booster pack , the other profession packs that we can buy now will not drop black ice assets or materials .And yeah the zen store is always offline on the preview shard.
Not what I am seeing...plenty of spines and bands, Twisted and Faceted green ones, and a much smaller number of Blue cores ... not a single green Splinter so far.
Yup. Same here. From what I have read in other threads, no one has actually gotten a BI splinter yet.
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Because you need to use processed black ice to keep your black ice gear empowered , once you empower the gear to purified or corrupt it is on a timer , the timer runs down whenever you are using the gear so you need a constant supply of purified black ice to keep your gear empowered , if it was just a case of only needing processed black ice to make the gear then that is it then it wouldn't be a problem but the constant need to use processed black ice to keep gear enhanced is why there is a issue with only letting non spenders have one gauntlet .
I understand the mechanics of it. I do not understand all the drama on the threads. 1. We do not yet know the true base stats or empowered stats. 2. We do not yet know how much refined ice we need to recharge the gear. Yet way too many people on these forums make wild assumptions.
But since the armor only drains while in combat and I normally only play one or two toons simultaneously it should be manageable.
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A full list to go with mehguys video
Offhand 3000
Main weapon 4500
Boots 3000
Arms 3000
Armor 4500
Helm 3000
That's for a 7 hour charge , most players will use that in a matter of a few playsessions , especially pvpers then they have to mine and refine another 21k black ice and that's just for one armor set and one weapon set , jewelry not included.....
And remember there are 2 sets that you will need to be fully effective plus we don't know if jewelry needs to be enhanced constantly ,Good luck keeping up with that with one gauntlet and one refining task ,unless of course you plan on making the stuff to stand round town in and never use in combat.
this looks way to much even if we could use 4-5 tasks in the same time we would still lose more then we could earn black ice in 6 hours
and this could be only how much u need from rank 2-3 not whole from 1-3
Exactly that's why I have been asking the developers for answers for 4 days now , this is a idiotic system, especially if they are only providing us one starter gauntlet.
The amount of black ice needed seems way over the top.
I believe it is. Although, from reading I see some people haven't had the issue. I'm surprised a quick fix hasn't been issued or the issue itself addressed as it's hampering people from actually testing, which is kind of the point.
If anyone has a clear address on this issue, let me hear.
I've seen a few people who haven't had this issue, but most (including myself) do have it. It's really annoying not to be able to refine because most of us would like to try the new gear. Is there any word whether this will be corrected next week when the other changes go into effect on the preview? I certainly hope so!
It'll probably be fixed when last weeks canceled patch is patched in ,it was supposed to be on Friday but they had to cancel it , some new processing tasks are being added too ,its in the patch notes .
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?641221-Curse-of-Icewind-Dale-Preview-Patch-Notes-NW-15-20140325a-5&p=7638851&viewfull=1#post7638851
I think the tooltip for the splinter is either misleading or wrong ,I think the splinter drops in either the Dwarf valley map heroic encounters or the epic skirmish.
There will be a Black Ice Shaping Booster Pack with assets and resources limited to only Black Ice Shaping. The current plan is to not have the Profession Booster Packs and Profession Asset Packs include Black Ice Shaping items.
LOL! all the players who have stockpiled profession boosters just for this profession are going to love this one.
This is good news actually. Well, its better than what I was fearing wherein those who stockpiled profession packs will get a headstart.
Time to pay up again for pvp boys
There must be a problem then , I haven't had one drop so far from either Icewind pass or Dwarf valley , I've had every other green and blue crafting material drop ,its just the purple quality epic crafting materials which should be quite rare and the Ice splinters that I haven't had any of yet , the ice splinters seem to be either uber rare or just not dropping at all at the moment.
Edit : Yeah I just logged on to double check the name , Black Ice Splinter , it's a green crafting material and I haven't had one drop so far , I have like 50-60 of the other green quality black ice materials and 20-30 of the blue quality black ice crafting materials but not one black ice splinter so far so they can't be dropping for some reason , can I ask , are they supposed to drop from heroic encounters in both new maps or just Dwarf valley Heroic encounters?
Is this a confirmation that we only have one free gauntlet and have to pay to get more, ie buy and empower our black ice gear?
I doubt you'll get a answer , he has obviously read the last few pages and chosen to ignore me asking the same question so it looks like it is one gauntlet lol , looks like Black ice gear is going to be Sunday best , i.e wear in town and never use it for it's intended purpose , at least to start with , I imagine the black ice assets will be uber expensive to start with due to the fact they are vital if you want to remain competitive but hopefully they will drop in price after a month or two, nice....
How much are they in the AH again? people have been buying them up and stockpiling them , does that count?
Not what I am seeing...plenty of spines and bands, Twisted and Faceted green ones, and a much smaller number of Blue cores ... not a single green Splinter so far.
Same here.
I can't access the normal zen store from the preview, so I can't even test that.
Don't buy any regular profession packs if you want the black ice assets and materials , there is going to be a special black ice profession booster pack , the other profession packs that we can buy now will not drop black ice assets or materials .And yeah the zen store is always offline on the preview shard.
Yup. Same here. From what I have read in other threads, no one has actually gotten a BI splinter yet.