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Yet another patch, and still no class balancing.
ioannides5
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I'm starting to think PWE wants this game to only be played by rogues, wizards, and clerics. Sorry GWFs and GFs, you still won't be invited to any dungeon parties and forced to buy gear off auction house. Hey, maybe next patch!
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To 100% properly balance classes yes, but the way the classes are currently set up is well.. pure bull****. Minor adjustments should have been made weeks ago, its TERRIBLE game design that only 3 out of the 5 classes are being used in dungeons; this should have been prioritized to fix. You want me to list ways to fix the broken classes? Just read 80% of the **** threads in the "Gameplay, Combat, and PvP Discussion" section, or the class discussion section, almost everyone is stating the same things over and over again, yet these developers are not listening.
I am not seeing this happen in game. Rarely when i queue for a dungeon or skirmish you will get several of the same class, but more often than not I am seeing all classes represented in parties.
Sounds like reactionary exaggeration to me.
1. build it right for how you playing things.
2. some class, PvP and PvE need different set of power to handle
3. know your role on the team
simple D&D rule, or most MMO actually, yet, just ignored. what can I say?
LOL I expect people to be competent at their jobs. If you're telling me the only way they can balance the classes is trial and error, I am telling you we need a new them
Herp-a-derp... theres a difference between finding a party (using zone chat), and queueing. When u queue, the game will automatically try to set you up with a variety of different classes, Finding a party for T2s however, is next to impossible playing either a GF or GWF. Know the difference please.
GG @ people who think just because theres a 'patch' that the patch should cover every single aspect of the game. PRIORITIES
For example if the GF could stack all the adds easily and tank them, then you might not need to CC them anymore making the CW useless (if cliffs are removed). If the ranger class can match TR dps but do it at range, you might not want a TR anymore. Clerics seems safe though, don't see them losing their spot.
So I can understand why balancing takes some time to do. But they really need to do something soon because people with useless characters have a tendency to quit games if they don't feel like rerolling.
i feel like the cc by cw with the ice focus is too powerful when there is two or more wizards.
i do not know the rogue's ability's name but it stop powers and in pvp i think the duration needs to be cut? idk if that is possible in your code or not.If not maybe diminishing returns?
most other things seemed balance. on the mage and rogue
for GF
i feel like the lunging strike need's a stun. maybe take off of griffon's wrath?
Balancing class is ALWAYS trial and error. I have yet to hear of any game that successfully balance a class first time round. Even so balance or not it's mostly perception, i'm not saying that a class will never be unbalance but rather i'm saying that even when classes are perceived to be balanced, there will be a corner of the community that claims them unbalanced. They can never please everyone and for that reason they need to study each class cause and effect or buffs or nerfs as detail as possible before actually implementing it. Balancing is not a magic wand act you know.
I'm sure the developer appreciates your suggestion... but so long as your suggestion is nothing but words with no verifiable data spanning across all classes as a whole for them to run through or test, your suggestion is as good as mere words.
sadly yes.
but once i get more character slots. and crunch numba's(lol)
they might peek once or twice.
The class balance is in the upcoming content patch due out very soon.
TR encounter have slowest CD if you not notice. from my experience it always depend of how you build and who set eyes on other first.
at least they peek
Also i find interest thing when you start classes GF is only one who get all Powers after lvl30 from paragon path, other classes have some preset Powers after lvl30. It look like GF was add like last and no time for planning.
AWESOMEEEE!!!
now it's the waiting game... good thing foundry is awesome.
/sarcasme off
well there are alot of variables, for example when 2 rogues got on me there was very little hope normally one having combat advantage after stealth break. cause normally a cleric or a cw will stun/cc you then they pop.
but yes, i noticed a slight difference when the jump changed.
What's more important? Fixing the tons of exploits or making GWF epeen grow a little?
Devs have been hard at work doing stability fixes and bug fixes, I'm happy with that and would rather they focus on those issues then class imbalancing (since whenever balancing is done, it just creates a new imbalance)
yes, but it become 1 time chance, more like kill or failed
true, not just who they dealing with but also how they build the TR itself, some people made it depend on quality of the strike other build more to a fast stealthy killer.
basis of the classes is role you playing, hey this is a RPG, is it not? also some set of skill worked so good in PvE but that does not mean you can use same set of skill on PvP and vice versa
very true, ArP and Recovery build could be brutal, i want to try a Recovery/Movement CW. Just to see how things would work. One of the best parts of d&d is you have a class but you customize it!
off-topic: i will always miss Vanilla Two-Handed Windfury crits.