Yeah, TOS looked futuristic... in the 60s. Nowadays it looks anachronistic.
Yet Axanar looked futuristic nowadays; but still it was clearly TOS era Star Trek.
Did it? what did we actually see from it?
Everything you accepted to see. You wont sell me the idea you did not watched and understood what was available before Peters turned into a total TRIBBLE; as a member of the community for what feels like a 10.000 years. :-P
Yeah, TOS looked futuristic... in the 60s. Nowadays it looks anachronistic.
Yet Axanar looked futuristic nowadays; but still it was clearly TOS era Star Trek.
Did it? what did we actually see from it?
Everything you accepted to see. You wont sell me the idea you did not watched and understood what was available before Peters turned into a total ****; as a member of the community for what feels like a 10.000 years. :-P
Peters didn't create Prelude. And honestly, I don't think Prelude is as faithful to recreating the look and feel of TOS as many claim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA
And the only filmed part of the actual Axanar doesn't look like TOS at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrlNSGbgrlQ
It looks like Enterprise, and even talks about things from ENT.
Not a chance in hell. TRIBBLE is a terrible idea. And what about IDK fleshing out the Gamma Quadrant some? Finding New Khitomer? Hello?
TRIBBLE. Utter trash. Convoluted, zero respect for ANY kind of continuity, made the Klingons look like garbage, ships look absolutely NOTHING that has ever in ANY way shape or form before or after while trying to claim prime universe.
I could keep going on both the Klingons and Federation, but to put it bluntly, this is just a BAD idea.
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Respectfully, please don't be one of those 'fans' who thinks he/she has the ability and authority to decide what is or isn't canon.
You hate Discovery - okay, fine; you're (obviously) perfectly entitled to that opinion.
However, fact > opinion. And your opinion doesn't change the fact that, whether you like it or not, Discovery is canon.
IMO, the whole discussion of whether Discovery is canon or not should probably be an FCT type topic. It ultimately doesn't matter, because you can bet for the next few years, any new Star Trek content from CBS wil incorporate DSC in some manner. You can call that non-canon or canon, but if you want to escape Discovery, then the next few years, you probably will have to avoid new official Star Trek material for some time.
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This could open up new writing opportunities for me including a future collaboration with Saphira123456. (Yay!) Of course, I'll alter STO's continuity for this expansion in my fanfics.
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yeah, just look at standard wermacht uniforms circa 1930s-1940s - they were basically housefrocks with thicker materials, but at least they were perfectly uniform (and ugly as hell - the SS and gestapo got the good uniforms)
Luftwaffe and Panzer divisions as well had good looking uniforms. Not SS tier of beauty, but not ugly.
Most of those uniforms were made by Hugo Boss (fun fact).
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> @patrickngo said: > you should stop reading or listening to anything I say about Discovery, Meimei, since that's a list of everything I found wrong with it (well, almost everything), but people have been complaining LOUDLY about the ship's tech. (which, tbh, I had very few problems with except putting windows right there on the bridge where the smallest accident could decapitate the whole ship...)
Well, by that same token what's the point of having the bridge on top of the ship at all? Shouldn't it be buried several decks down where it's more protected? And yet practically every ship in Star Trek ever has it dorsal and forward.
And for the record, the shows haven't ever really kept straight whether the forward viewscreen was just a screen, or a screen overlaid on a physical window. The most prominent example I can think of being the Battle of the Bassen Rift in Nemesis where a torpedo hit near the bridge, broke the viewscreen, and sucked a redshirt into space before the emergency force fields kicked in.
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The franchise cannot grow if you expect them to follow the same plastic, kiddie play-set style that TOS had, you might as well put the final nail in the coffin.
What a peculiar strawman. I've read about lethargic Klingons, with exo-armor that hinders them to the degree that even Burnham accidentally bumping into one can cause their deaths; I've read about Burnham not being everyone's favorite Trek character. I heard Tilly mentioned, weak, rushed, implausible Season ending, etc. But I don't think I recall ppl hating on the ship's tech (which looks absolutely fine to me).
you should stop reading or listening to anything I say about Discovery, Meimei, since that's a list of everything I found wrong with it (well, almost everything), but people have been complaining LOUDLY about the ship's tech. (which, tbh, I had very few problems with except putting windows right there on the bridge where the smallest accident could decapitate the whole ship...)
Isn't that exactly what happened in Nemesis though? E takes one of Shinzon's torpedoes to the bridge and blows out the "viewscreen" which it turns out was really a giant window? Yeah.... what's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that...
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Yeah, TOS looked futuristic... in the 60s. Nowadays it looks anachronistic.
Yet Axanar looked futuristic nowadays; but still it was clearly TOS era Star Trek.
Yep - the profile shots of all the Axanar actors simply sitting and talking looked REALLY 'futuristic'. (The SFX looked like they came out of an STO cutscene though).
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All I want to know is if making this Discovery Era Character is going to worth the effort. IE Perk, like the Delta,Temporal, Jem'Hadar etc. I need this info soon as I would like to prepare some items for the new Character.
Again this nonsense. NOBODY EVER SAID THEY HAD TO BUILD THE SETS FROM CARDBOARD OR STRING. Although I bet DSCs sets are also made of plywood - because that's how you build sets, they don't construct solid steel walls. Can you tell the material of a modern TV/Movie set? You can't. And if they kept more of the original aesthetics with slight upgrades it'd have worked. What people are really saying is that Trek stood out with unique visuals and needed to be changed to be indistinguishable from all the other shows running.
TOS was Forbidden Planet + a heavy dose of 60's. Connecting style and décor to an immediate cultural context, while couching that in popular sci-fi, helped the show stand out and function as allegory. Lose that (in favor or keeping to a canon that falsely attributes stylistic changes, made in response to real-time cultural evolution, to a working history of the FED that shifts according to an internal and disconnected timeline) and the allegory is dampened. More distance is created between your perception of setting and the characters and events which inhabit it, making it more difficult for actions find a connection to daily experience. Can it work? Maybe. Will it work as well, all else being equal? No.
Thus, regurgitating TOS aesthetics out of their original context would be a disservice to what Star Trek is beyond the simple description of its fictitious canon. Every iteration should reinterpret Star Trek for a modern stylistic view of the future in order to continue functioning like a Star Trek series (using design cues, rather than wholesale copying, to connect narratives; as Discovery does [even in Season 1].)
Yeah, TOS looked futuristic... in the 60s. Nowadays it looks anachronistic.
Zactly! TOS looked modern by the standards of the day. So does Discovery now. The ship's interior/bridge is probably one of the very few things they got entirely right, IMHO.
Explain Star Wars, then. The newest films kept that DICSO! look, like Rogue one...a PREQUEL!
Or the newer alien movies....still kept that red dwarf look to it.
Hell, the Doctor's Tardis, with exception of the 1960's reproduction Clara took, looks less advanced these days.
Also, Phase 2 and ST Continues uses the TOS look, and they look just fine to me, same for In A Mirror Darkly 1 and 2. They looked awesome.
Yeah, TOS looked futuristic... in the 60s. Nowadays it looks anachronistic.
Yet Axanar looked futuristic nowadays; but still it was clearly TOS era Star Trek.
Yep - the profile shots of all the Axanar actors simply sitting and talking looked REALLY 'futuristic'. (The SFX looked like they came out of an STO cutscene though).
Prelude to Axanar teased a really good story, it's just too bad Peters was a d*ckbag...
Personally, rather than CBS having a broomstick up its TRIBBLE, they outta do what George Lucas, when he saw fan films he was impressed with......he gave them jobs.....and not have it's stupid restrictive guidelines, now, not to mention the egos.
Smokey, the Star Wars movies are fantasy in spaceships, not SF. They don't follow any rules except to resemble with a fair degree of precision the old Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon serials of the '30s. You should really stop trying to claim they're in any meaningful sense comparable to a soft-SF series like Star Trek - it makes as much sense as complaining about phasers being updated in TNG because detective films have been using the Colt 1911 pistol since the 1930s.
Oh, and as far as anyone can tell, Peters never had anything in mind other than to use the Star Trek IP to sell his own products for profit - when challenged in court, he didn't even have a first draft of a script, despite claiming he'd already started filming. You would only hire him for your project if you wanted it to be the new Ishtar.
It's right at the top of most of the movies, "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away."
Star Wars purposefully creates distance between its audience and its setting in order to create a sense of wonder and mystique. This helps set the stage for its subversion of the heroic ideal. Thus, it can repeat its visuals out of context for roughly the same effect. An X-wing is just an X-wing, it's not an allegory for its time in American history (outside of college rhetoric papers which are struggling to find their way out of the writer's hobbies. )
Star Trek has an element of wonder but its heavily moderated with modern styles (starting at the very beginning and carried the whole way through). This helps makes its future believable and relatable to its host audience (though anachronistic out of context. See. miniskirts.) This, in turn, contributes to some of the most commonly cited "core aspects" of Star Trek. Ie. allegorical story telling which comments on modern themes and issues (as opposed to heroic ideals which speak to our dreams and aspirations) or alternatively relatable characters dealing with abstract future issues (ex. computer systems gone mad, space monsters) in order to make comment on those relatable, modern characters (and how to deal with daily problems. Ex. how to coexist with people of different backgrounds or personality.)
Freeze any Trek production in time and demand that IP forever worships at its holy altar by rote (when returning to its fictional year), and you'll have removed an element of visual story telling that the series has used throughout its run. You'll have literally made it more Star Wars and less Star Trek (to put it very simply) though to a degree that will, most likely, only result in a wounded compromise between formats (unclear of what it wants to achieve and how.)
Ditto Dr. Who (the Tardis was intended to be a very unconventional mode of transport. That is more and more the case the more the world moves on from police phone boxes.)
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All I want to know is if making this Discovery Era Character is going to worth the effort. IE Perk, like the Delta,Temporal, Jem'Hadar etc. I need this info soon as I would like to prepare some items for the new Character.
I think they'll follow the normal pattern, but the rewards will probably be better than AoY, because this is 'sponsored' content backed by the owners of the IP, and CBS is keen on winners.
I appreciate the input, unfortunately this is not enough of a confirmation. Certain items, traits and ships in game will raise in price as this new season arises. Just understand this is just me, I like to be alittle prepared. If I decide to go ahead with any purchases now, the decision will be based on implusiveness.
I Think a lot of the blind hate can be explained by this classic kirk line
[The Enterprise and Excelsior crews have just averted the assassination of the Federation president]
Azetbur: What's happened? What's the meaning of all of this?
James T. Kirk: It's about the future, Madame Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. Well, we haven't run out of history quite yet. Your father called the future the undiscovered country. People can be very frightened of change.
Azetbur: You've restored my father's faith.
Kirk: And you've restored my son's.
And one has to wonder, that if DSC had not brought in money, would they have been able to afford to use Patrick Stewart.?
(As a side note based on his comments from STLV, If you thought the back lash for TLJ was bad wait til the new picard comes out)
> @reafis said: > I Think a lot of the blind hate can be explained by this classic kirk line > > [The Enterprise and Excelsior crews have just averted the assassination of the Federation president] > Azetbur: What's happened? What's the meaning of all of this? > James T. Kirk: It's about the future, Madame Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. Well, we haven't run out of history quite yet. Your father called the future the undiscovered country. People can be very frightened of change. > Azetbur: You've restored my father's faith. > Kirk: And you've restored my son's. > > And one has to wonder, that if DSC had not brought in money, would they have been able to afford to use Patrick Stewart.? > > (As a side note based on his comments from STLV, If you thought the back lash for TLJ was bad wait til the new picard comes out)
Fun fact, to get the streaming rights internationally, NETFLIX basically paid for the first season. And since it didn't do as well as predicted, now CBS is ponying up a good sum of the cash.
If season 2 doesn't deliver in spades, might not get a season 3.
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How many of you are excited for what's coming in the Discovery content coming up? Please explain if you care either way.
Hype for the sake of Hype isn't constructive. Looking at the facts, we have very little so far. i need a heck of a lot more to go on before i can weigh in on any direction beyond the fence.
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Fun fact, to get the streaming rights internationally, NETFLIX basically paid for the first season. And since it didn't do as well as predicted, now CBS is ponying up a good sum of the cash.
Citation needed.
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If season 2 doesn't deliver in spades, might not get a season 3.
Judging by the ridiculously rushed, and overly happy ending of Season 1, it's fair to assume they weren't really expecting a second Season. They basically quickly wrapped it up towards the end (instead of leaving it with a hefty cliffhanger, as per usual). CBS and Netflix will no doubt have you believe "It was a great success, and the viewers love it!" But they already hired Patrick Stewart for the next Trek incarnation: that should at least give pause to even the most rabid ST:D fans.
But I don't think I recall ppl hating on the ship's tech (which looks absolutely fine to me).
The holograms drive me up a wall. Mostly, it's personal taste.
However, the hologram walk around your quarters and sit on your desk, certain questions arise. "Is there a holographic representation of the room elsewhere that allows one to walk around and sit on a desk? Why? To what purpose? Why does only one end of the transmission have this feature?". Far too much "rule of cool" and "science IS magic" in their super-advanced, pre-TNG technology.
> @mustrumridcully0 said: > talonxv wrote: » > > Fun fact, to get the streaming rights internationally, NETFLIX basically paid for the first season. And since it didn't do as well as predicted, now CBS is ponying up a good sum of the cash. > > > > Citation needed.
Well all I have is a YouTube video. But riddle me this. If DSC had blown it out of the water, don't you think CBS would be signing it from the rooftops?
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Everything you accepted to see. You wont sell me the idea you did not watched and understood what was available before Peters turned into a total TRIBBLE; as a member of the community for what feels like a 10.000 years. :-P
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And the only filmed part of the actual Axanar doesn't look like TOS at all:
It looks like Enterprise, and even talks about things from ENT.
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IMO, the whole discussion of whether Discovery is canon or not should probably be an FCT type topic. It ultimately doesn't matter, because you can bet for the next few years, any new Star Trek content from CBS wil incorporate DSC in some manner. You can call that non-canon or canon, but if you want to escape Discovery, then the next few years, you probably will have to avoid new official Star Trek material for some time.
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> you should stop reading or listening to anything I say about Discovery, Meimei, since that's a list of everything I found wrong with it (well, almost everything), but people have been complaining LOUDLY about the ship's tech. (which, tbh, I had very few problems with except putting windows right there on the bridge where the smallest accident could decapitate the whole ship...)
Well, by that same token what's the point of having the bridge on top of the ship at all? Shouldn't it be buried several decks down where it's more protected? And yet practically every ship in Star Trek ever has it dorsal and forward.
And for the record, the shows haven't ever really kept straight whether the forward viewscreen was just a screen, or a screen overlaid on a physical window. The most prominent example I can think of being the Battle of the Bassen Rift in Nemesis where a torpedo hit near the bridge, broke the viewscreen, and sucked a redshirt into space before the emergency force fields kicked in.
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Yep - the profile shots of all the Axanar actors simply sitting and talking looked REALLY 'futuristic'. (The SFX looked like they came out of an STO cutscene though).
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Explain Star Wars, then. The newest films kept that DICSO! look, like Rogue one...a PREQUEL!
Or the newer alien movies....still kept that red dwarf look to it.
Hell, the Doctor's Tardis, with exception of the 1960's reproduction Clara took, looks less advanced these days.
Also, Phase 2 and ST Continues uses the TOS look, and they look just fine to me, same for In A Mirror Darkly 1 and 2. They looked awesome.
Personally, rather than CBS having a broomstick up its TRIBBLE, they outta do what George Lucas, when he saw fan films he was impressed with......he gave them jobs.....and not have it's stupid restrictive guidelines, now, not to mention the egos.
Oh, and as far as anyone can tell, Peters never had anything in mind other than to use the Star Trek IP to sell his own products for profit - when challenged in court, he didn't even have a first draft of a script, despite claiming he'd already started filming. You would only hire him for your project if you wanted it to be the new Ishtar.
It's right at the top of most of the movies, "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away."
Star Wars purposefully creates distance between its audience and its setting in order to create a sense of wonder and mystique. This helps set the stage for its subversion of the heroic ideal. Thus, it can repeat its visuals out of context for roughly the same effect. An X-wing is just an X-wing, it's not an allegory for its time in American history (outside of college rhetoric papers which are struggling to find their way out of the writer's hobbies.
Star Trek has an element of wonder but its heavily moderated with modern styles (starting at the very beginning and carried the whole way through). This helps makes its future believable and relatable to its host audience (though anachronistic out of context. See. miniskirts.) This, in turn, contributes to some of the most commonly cited "core aspects" of Star Trek. Ie. allegorical story telling which comments on modern themes and issues (as opposed to heroic ideals which speak to our dreams and aspirations) or alternatively relatable characters dealing with abstract future issues (ex. computer systems gone mad, space monsters) in order to make comment on those relatable, modern characters (and how to deal with daily problems. Ex. how to coexist with people of different backgrounds or personality.)
Freeze any Trek production in time and demand that IP forever worships at its holy altar by rote (when returning to its fictional year), and you'll have removed an element of visual story telling that the series has used throughout its run. You'll have literally made it more Star Wars and less Star Trek (to put it very simply) though to a degree that will, most likely, only result in a wounded compromise between formats (unclear of what it wants to achieve and how.)
Ditto Dr. Who (the Tardis was intended to be a very unconventional mode of transport. That is more and more the case the more the world moves on from police phone boxes.)
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I appreciate the input, unfortunately this is not enough of a confirmation. Certain items, traits and ships in game will raise in price as this new season arises. Just understand this is just me, I like to be alittle prepared. If I decide to go ahead with any purchases now, the decision will be based on implusiveness.
[The Enterprise and Excelsior crews have just averted the assassination of the Federation president]
Azetbur: What's happened? What's the meaning of all of this?
James T. Kirk: It's about the future, Madame Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. Well, we haven't run out of history quite yet. Your father called the future the undiscovered country. People can be very frightened of change.
Azetbur: You've restored my father's faith.
Kirk: And you've restored my son's.
And one has to wonder, that if DSC had not brought in money, would they have been able to afford to use Patrick Stewart.?
(As a side note based on his comments from STLV, If you thought the back lash for TLJ was bad wait til the new picard comes out)
> I Think a lot of the blind hate can be explained by this classic kirk line
>
> [The Enterprise and Excelsior crews have just averted the assassination of the Federation president]
> Azetbur: What's happened? What's the meaning of all of this?
> James T. Kirk: It's about the future, Madame Chancellor. Some people think the future means the end of history. Well, we haven't run out of history quite yet. Your father called the future the undiscovered country. People can be very frightened of change.
> Azetbur: You've restored my father's faith.
> Kirk: And you've restored my son's.
>
> And one has to wonder, that if DSC had not brought in money, would they have been able to afford to use Patrick Stewart.?
>
> (As a side note based on his comments from STLV, If you thought the back lash for TLJ was bad wait til the new picard comes out)
Fun fact, to get the streaming rights internationally, NETFLIX basically paid for the first season. And since it didn't do as well as predicted, now CBS is ponying up a good sum of the cash.
If season 2 doesn't deliver in spades, might not get a season 3.
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Hype for the sake of Hype isn't constructive. Looking at the facts, we have very little so far. i need a heck of a lot more to go on before i can weigh in on any direction beyond the fence.
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Judging by the ridiculously rushed, and overly happy ending of Season 1, it's fair to assume they weren't really expecting a second Season. They basically quickly wrapped it up towards the end (instead of leaving it with a hefty cliffhanger, as per usual). CBS and Netflix will no doubt have you believe "It was a great success, and the viewers love it!" But they already hired Patrick Stewart for the next Trek incarnation: that should at least give pause to even the most rabid ST:D fans.
However, the hologram walk around your quarters and sit on your desk, certain questions arise. "Is there a holographic representation of the room elsewhere that allows one to walk around and sit on a desk? Why? To what purpose? Why does only one end of the transmission have this feature?". Far too much "rule of cool" and "science IS magic" in their super-advanced, pre-TNG technology.
> talonxv wrote: »
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> Fun fact, to get the streaming rights internationally, NETFLIX basically paid for the first season. And since it didn't do as well as predicted, now CBS is ponying up a good sum of the cash.
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> Citation needed.
Well all I have is a YouTube video. But riddle me this. If DSC had blown it out of the water, don't you think CBS would be signing it from the rooftops?
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