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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @artan42 said:
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    > If you like DS9 and other Sci-fi give B5 a chance.
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    > I have done. I quite enjoyed the film but the first series was not very much like it. I might pick it up gain at some point.
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    > And thats the thing. You're telling me with Trek they can't do the minds of things B5 did with an even bigger budget? Come on!
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    > That's just plain lazy and we both know it.
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    > That's not what I'm telling you. What I'm telling you is that at the end of the day the overwhelming majority of aliens are humans with silly things stuck on their heads. It's for budget reasons, not just because it's cheap to do but also because with a lick of paint they can make another dozen aliens out of the same pieces and also for empathy. If they all looked like bugs they wouldn't have the same impact.
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    > Now granted the Mimbari and Centuari were a bit lazy, but some of the otjer designs like the Narn and a few other aligned races, were quite ingenious.
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    > From what I've seen of B5 the effects are all basic 3D animation and the sets are very basic so I assume they put their money into the makeup and costuming. DSC has balanced itself. The Klingons may look 'off' but they're still finished to a high standard. Those ceremonial EV suits must have cost a fortune and look stunning.
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    > Models and environments take budget to render as well and you can't just hang a model on a string on a black sheet with LEDs behind it anymore. Star TRek has a higher budget now, but they have to do more with it.
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    > but he made this video on what he would of done given the writing which makes far more sense than what we got.
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    > Look man, I've pointed it out before but it just bugs me. It's would 'have' not would 'of'. The 'V' sound in would've is due to the abbreviation of the 'have' into its second syllable.​​

    Damn it man I'm a fictional space captain, not an English teacher!
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  • valoreahvaloreah Member Posts: 10,270 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    let's see: Kirk's 'offense' was incredibly minor in relation to his demonstrated career, and didn't get people killed.

    Uhm, what? What "career" did Kirk have while he was still in the Academy? He wasn't Captain of the Enterprise and savior of the galaxy yet. He was a cadet... just like any other cadet... except instead of getting thrown out for cheating, he got commended for it. And as for it being a "minor offesnse", canon disagrees. If anything, we saw in subsequent episodes of TNG how strict the Academy can be. I don't believe cheating is something they would just ignore.
    Burnham's mutiny resulted in the loss of her ship, her captain, most of her crew...there's a kind of major difference there.

    That isn't true. At all.

    Honestly, did you really watch the show at all or are you just parroting what you read on the internet? It's abundantly clear the Klingons were there to fight. That was the whole purpose of luring a Starfleet vessel in, lighting the torch and calling the other houses to the area.

    Nothing Burnham did led to the Battle of the Binary Stars. Accidentally killing the first Torchbearer was not the cause. The Klingons were going to attack as many Federation ships and kill as many people as possible whether Burnham attempted mutiny or not. She could have followed Giorgiou's orders to the letter and sat on her hands and the outcome would have absolutely been the same. Made zero difference to the Klingons.
    Jim Kirk had to get to Admiral before he lost a ship in combat through his own actions, and technically he was not guilty of making a Mutiny, (though he can be charged with misuse of Starfleet property and conspiring to grand theft starship), his offense also did not directly or indirectly lead to the deaths of his crew, or his immediate superior.

    So let me get this straight.... Nothing Kirk ever did as Captain ever led to the death of a single crewman? Nothing at all? Ever? As you said, try again.
    Obviously Michelle Yeoh needs the paycheck, and Discovery needs someone who can act.

    I really, really doubt Michelle Yeoh is hurting for money given her lengthy career and how big a star she is in Asia. I will agree she is one of the better actresses on Discovery though.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    I also seem to recall other officers, such as Gary Mitchell, William Riker and Reginald Barclay (to name a few) being given god-like levels of abilities....

    What exactly makes them any different? Other than you just don't like Discovery?

    The fact that they only had god-like powers for a limited amount of time. The closest Star Trek character to Stamets is Kes since she became more and more powerful over time until she finally transcended.
  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 6,438 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    The fact that they only had god-like powers for a limited amount of time. The closest Star Trek character to Stamets is Kes since she became more and more powerful over time until she finally transcended.
    Stamets never had god-like power though, at most, he saw through temporal loops, and started having visions of other universes, but he never had the ability to just snap his fingers and alter the fabric of space-time or anything.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,273 Bug Hunter
    Stamets never had god-like power though, at most, he saw through temporal loops, and started having visions of other universes, but he never had the ability to just snap his fingers and alter the fabric of space-time or anything.

    Being a bit picky but that's some gods raison d'être. Heimdallr for example or Argus Panoptes or Janus. Their power is looking through time and space.

    Not all gods are reality warpers.​​
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @artan42 said:
    > somtaawkhar wrote: »
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    > Stamets never had god-like power though, at most, he saw through temporal loops, and started having visions of other universes, but he never had the ability to just snap his fingers and alter the fabric of space-time or anything.
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    Or when Riker was made a Q for a while. Hell some people realize when we can actually properly use 100% of our brains like Lucy, humanity would be able to transcend space and time.

    Which is interesting if you ask me.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    The fact that they only had god-like powers for a limited amount of time. The closest Star Trek character to Stamets is Kes since she became more and more powerful over time until she finally transcended.
    Stamets never had god-like power though, at most, he saw through temporal loops, and started having visions of other universes, but he never had the ability to just snap his fingers and alter the fabric of space-time or anything.

    Being able to see other universes is god-like power. There are omniscient, omnipresence, and omnipotent for god-like powers not just omnipotent.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,259 Arc User
    talonxv wrote: »
    Or when Riker was made a Q for a while. Hell some people realize when we can actually properly use 100% of our brains like Lucy, humanity would be able to transcend space and time.

    Which is interesting if you ask me.
    No it's not. People don't use 100% of their brain CONSTANTLY, the active part shifts based on what you're doing. Certain parts get used more often than others, but all of it gets used.
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  • valoreahvaloreah Member Posts: 10,270 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    The fact that they only had god-like powers for a limited amount of time. The closest Star Trek character to Stamets is Kes since she became more and more powerful over time until she finally transcended.

    It's my understanding Stamets did not have those abilities once unplugged from the spore drive, so that puts him into the "temporary" column. I also thought he mentioned having the connecting ports removed from his arms in the final episode of the season. I could be wrong though.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @markhawkman said:
    > talonxv wrote: »
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    > Or when Riker was made a Q for a while. Hell some people realize when we can actually properly use 100% of our brains like Lucy, humanity would be able to transcend space and time.
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    > No it's not. People don't use 100% of their brain CONSTANTLY, the active part shifts based on what you're doing. Certain parts get used more often than others, but all of it gets used.

    Well that's what I mean. 100% full capacity. I've seen the human brain would make even the fastest computer look like a wind up toy
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,660 Arc User
    We do use 100% of our brains. And trying to use everything at full capacity constantly would lead only to madness, swiftly followed by cooking the brain in its own juices. Our issues have to do with cognitive functions, not processing speed, and overclocking the cerebellum isn't going to help.

    As for Kirk's career errors costing lives, I refer you to the episode "Obsession". While it turned out Kirk's error as a lieutenant aboard the Farragut eleven years earlier didn't in fact kill 200 crewmembers (turned out that shooting the gas creature with phasers would have been about as effective as you'd imagine using energy weapons on a gas cloud might be), he may well have killed Rizzo by insisting that McCoy revive the ensign with cordrazine so that he could be questioned about the attack on the away team, and came a hair's-breadth away from killing Ensign Garrovick by confining him to quarters during the same time period that the creature attacked Enterprise (it entered through the ventilation system, and got into Garrovick's quarters). In fact, the only reason Garrovick survived was because Spock entered his quarters and flushed the creature out of the ventilation system; fortunately, Spock was immune from its attack, because it ate hemoglobin and Vulcans use cyanoglobin. There are a number of other incidents in other episodes for which Kirk could plausibly be blamed as well; for instance, the death of Lt. Tomlinson in a phaser-coolant leak in "Balance of Terror" could be traced fairly directly to Kirk's insistence on pursuit of the cloaked Romulan ship, rather than returning to the nearest starbase to report on it.

    Also, in ST:TMP, two crew members died in a transporter accident, a direct result of Admiral Kirk ordering the ship to depart before her systems were properly tested. By way of punishment, he remained in command of Enterprise, with an acting rank of Captain but a permanent rank of Rear Admiral, until being reassigned again to Starfleet Operations sometime before ST:TWoK and resuming his upward climb.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,259 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Burnham's mutiny directly resulted in the deaths of her crewmates and her captain, but she did not have the legitimate authority to make those calls.
    Yeah, no. The Klingons were planning to shot the ship to pieces anyways.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Burnham's mutiny directly resulted in the deaths of her crewmates and her captain, but she did not have the legitimate authority to make those calls.
    Yeah, no. The Klingons were planning to shot the ship to pieces anyways.

    If Burnham was able to have her mutiny succeed, then the Shenzhou might have been saved. If the Shenzhou never attacked, then everyone would be dead or enslaved, but the war would have never started. Klingons need an enemy to fight and if the Federation never fought back, then the Klingons would have tried some other race to attack or just fight themselves some more.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,259 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Burnham's mutiny directly resulted in the deaths of her crewmates and her captain, but she did not have the legitimate authority to make those calls.
    Yeah, no. The Klingons were planning to shot the ship to pieces anyways.
    If Burnham was able to have her mutiny succeed, then the Shenzhou might have been saved. If the Shenzhou never attacked, then everyone would be dead or enslaved, but the war would have never started. Klingons need an enemy to fight and if the Federation never fought back, then the Klingons would have tried some other race to attack or just fight themselves some more.
    That or find another excuse to start the war....
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @jonsills said:
    > We do use 100% of our brains. And trying to use everything at full capacity constantly would lead only to madness, swiftly followed by cooking the brain in its own juices. Our issues have to do with cognitive functions, not processing speed, and overclocking the cerebellum isn't going to help.
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    > As for Kirk's career errors costing lives, I refer you to the episode "Obsession". While it turned out Kirk's error as a lieutenant aboard the Farragut eleven years earlier didn't in fact kill 200 crewmembers (turned out that shooting the gas creature with phasers would have been about as effective as you'd imagine using energy weapons on a gas cloud might be), he may well have killed Rizzo by insisting that McCoy revive the ensign with cordrazine so that he could be questioned about the attack on the away team, and came a hair's-breadth away from killing Ensign Garrovick by confining him to quarters during the same time period that the creature attacked Enterprise (it entered through the ventilation system, and got into Garrovick's quarters). In fact, the only reason Garrovick survived was because Spock entered his quarters and flushed the creature out of the ventilation system; fortunately, Spock was immune from its attack, because it ate hemoglobin and Vulcans use cyanoglobin. There are a number of other incidents in other episodes for which Kirk could plausibly be blamed as well; for instance, the death of Lt. Tomlinson in a phaser-coolant leak in "Balance of Terror" could be traced fairly directly to Kirk's insistence on pursuit of the cloaked Romulan ship, rather than returning to the nearest starbase to report on it.
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    > Also, in ST:TMP, two crew members died in a transporter accident, a direct result of Admiral Kirk ordering the ship to depart before her systems were properly tested. By way of punishment, he remained in command of Enterprise, with an acting rank of Captain but a permanent rank of Rear Admiral, until being reassigned again to Starfleet Operations sometime before ST:TWoK and resuming his upward climb.

    And in TWOK Kirk got a lot of crew hurt or killed because he ignored general orders and didn't have his shields up approaching the Reliant. Hell by a big dose of luck he didn't lose the Enterprise right there.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @starkaos said:
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    > Burnham's mutiny directly resulted in the deaths of her crewmates and her captain, but she did not have the legitimate authority to make those calls.
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    > If Burnham was able to have her mutiny succeed, then the Shenzhou might have been saved. If the Shenzhou never attacked, then everyone would be dead or enslaved, but the war would have never started. Klingons need an enemy to fight and if the Federation never fought back, then the Klingons would have tried some other race to attack or just fight themselves some more.

    Maybe, maybe not. Irregardless she would of been court marshaled the second she got back.

    Either way Burnham broke the rulea and regs of Starfleet. She deserved to go down hard and stay down till she was old and grey.

    Only one place for mutineers unlesa they have a really really good reason for mutiny. And Burnham did NOT.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,882 Arc User
    talonxv wrote: »

    Maybe, maybe not. Irregardless she would of been court marshaled the second she got back.

    Either way Burnham broke the rulea and regs of Starfleet. She deserved to go down hard and stay down till she was old and grey.

    Only one place for mutineers unlesa they have a really really good reason for mutiny. And Burnham did NOT.

    Her reason was that Sarek force-called her (because they can do that!) and told her she has to shoot first - which is exactly what T'Kuvma needed. The stupid "Vulcan Hello" thing never came up while the Admirals of Starfleet sat in the dark and played poker, apparently. The whole "Mutiny - Redemption" arc was terrible constructed...​​
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,273 Bug Hunter
    angrytarg wrote: »
    talonxv wrote: »

    Maybe, maybe not. Irregardless she would of been court marshaled the second she got back.

    Either way Burnham broke the rulea and regs of Starfleet. She deserved to go down hard and stay down till she was old and grey.

    Only one place for mutineers unlesa they have a really really good reason for mutiny. And Burnham did NOT.

    Her reason was that Sarek force-called her (because they can do that!) and told her she has to shoot first - which is exactly what T'Kuvma needed. The stupid "Vulcan Hello" thing never came up while the Admirals of Starfleet sat in the dark and played poker, apparently. The whole "Mutiny - Redemption" arc was terrible constructed...

    It probably didn't come up because we never saw the whole trial. It was a summary before she was carted off not a courtroom episode.

    If she had been the captain and utilised the Vulcan Hello she'd probably got away with it. She was convicted of mutiny not starting a war so the legitimacy of the Vulcan Hello is not relevant to the trial.

    I think even the famously insane Starfleet admiralty might have understood the war was inevitable and T'Kuvma was looking to unify the Empire in the only way he knew how.
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    Her reason was that Sarek force-called her (because they can do that!)

    Compared to storing your bloody soul in a jar to allow you to be resurrected, it's a down right reasonable use of psychic powers.​​
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,660 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    ...Sarek force-called her (because they can do that!)...​​
    TOS: "The Immunity Syndrome". Spock sensed the deaths of the Vulcan crew of USS Intrepid.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,259 Arc User
    Spock was also somehow psychically aware of the location of V'Ger.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    ...Sarek force-called her (because they can do that!)...​​
    TOS: "The Immunity Syndrome". Spock sensed the deaths of the Vulcan crew of USS Intrepid.

    Being able to sense the deaths of a hundred Vulcans is far easier than sending telepathic messages to one person. It is essentially the same as listening to a crowd yelling vs. a person talking to you.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,241 Arc User
    > @starkaos said:
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    Not only that, Vulcans are Empaths over a distance, but need physical touch for telepathic. Least as far as I knew.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,259 Arc User
    Depends on the level of contact. Someone who mind melds often doesn't need the same level of contact. Also Vulcan powers are often understated. One weird thing is that most Vulcans don't TRY to use their powers to their full potential. In fact they make a conscious effort to avoid using them.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,882 Arc User
    Vulcans got more and more superpowers over time and are now essentially socially awkward supermen. Telepathically speaking to someone on the other end of the quadrant is just Palantir level of Magix. I am almost certain we see Vulcans or even Burnham start to levitate during DSC's run...
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  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 33,273 Arc User
    what other end of the quadrant? the binary star system where the beacon was is only about a few dozen to a hundred LY from vulcan according to that map on discovery (which is presumably where sarek was at the time)​​
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,882 Arc User
    I was using hyperbole to make a point. The actual distance being "a few dozen LYs" doesn't make it any more believable. ;)
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,273 Bug Hunter
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I was using hyperbole to make a point. The actual distance being "a few dozen LYs" doesn't make it any more believable. ;)

    Again, unlike the hard science of resurrection?
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    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 9,882 Arc User
    > @artan42 said:

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    > Again, unlike the hard science of resurrection?

    Sure. Yesterday I accidentally impaled a colleague on my shoulder spike. Just took some augment blood and sweet talking and she was fine again xP

    (Stop whatabouting, I explicitly said they got so many stupid superpowers. But from my perspective ST3 already existed, force calls are an arsepull if there ever was one xD)
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,800 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    valoreah wrote: »
    patrickngo wrote: »
    yes, Burnham's mutiny had consequences-she got a promotion after a short period of internment. Stamets becomes a demigod, so sure, that's 'consequences', and it's highly unclear if Georgiou's continued existence has any consequences at all whatsoever.

    Hmmm....

    I seem to recall something of a famous Starfleet Captain who received a commendation rather than admonishment and expulsion for deliberately cheating on the final exam at Starfleet Academy....

    I also seem to recall other officers, such as Gary Mitchell, William Riker and Reginald Barclay (to name a few) being given god-like levels of abilities....

    What exactly makes them any different? Other than you just don't like Discovery?

    And since Michelle Yeoh is confirmed to be in season 2, I believe chances are pretty good we'll see the ramifications of Burnham and co. letting her go at the end of season 1.

    It'll be interesting to see if they follow-through with what they did have planned. A cut-scene at the end of 'Will you take my hand' had MU Georgiou approached by Section 31....
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