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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User

    Tovan Khev

    You know, I'm actually genuinely amazed that this took 12 pages to appear. I've been waiting for it since page 1 XD.


    Seriously, the thing is, I understand he's needed for missions. But why is he always forcibly on my bridge?! He's not even slotted.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    I am mildly interested in how well a game like STO would fly as it stands but with no access to the ST IP.

    People still like spaceships right? And customisation, and free zen conversions, and lasers and stuff right?

    I'd suspect not too well. People like that, but STO doesn't really do anything out of the ordinary. I'd suspect it'd be like BSG Online. It's kinda... there, but really nothing you really want to play. I mean, with STO if it wasn't Star Trek, as much of a weird lore clusterbuck the game is, I wouldn't touch it. The gameplay and progression as well as the story itself is not a good enough incentive for me to play, it'd need another IP I like to interest me and if it's "just" Wing Commander or Homeworld (both universes the "collect infinite numbers of ships and switch them like t-shirts" mechanic could work, it does work ridiculously bad for a Star Trek game, though... pig-4.gif)​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    I am mildly interested in how well a game like STO would fly as it stands but with no access to the ST IP.

    People still like spaceships right? And customisation, and free zen conversions, and lasers and stuff right?

    I'd suspect not too well. People like that, but STO doesn't really do anything out of the ordinary. I'd suspect it'd be like BSG Online. It's kinda... there, but really nothing you really want to play. I mean, with STO if it wasn't Star Trek, as much of a weird lore clusterbuck the game is, I wouldn't touch it. The gameplay and progression as well as the story itself is not a good enough incentive for me to play, it'd need another IP I like to interest me and if it's "just" Wing Commander or Homeworld (both universes the "collect infinite numbers of ships and switch them like t-shirts" mechanic could work, it does work ridiculously bad for a Star Trek game, though... pig-4.gif)​​

    Yeah, without the IP there's nothing to interest me in playing either, space combat is great but it's not enough to outweigh the many problems I have with other aspects of the game.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    Well, guess I am the odd one out who really gets enjoyment from that game ~shrugs~
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    Well, guess I am the odd one out who really gets enjoyment from that game ~shrugs~

    Probably. There's always one weirdo pig-25.gif​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Well, guess I am the odd one out who really gets enjoyment from that game ~shrugs~

    Probably. There's always one weirdo pig-25.gif​​

    I am not sure if I should feel insulted or flattered. o.o
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
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    admiralnatadmiralnat Member Posts: 22,432 Arc User
    Hmm... any one thing, eh? Master keys. Seriously, I don't mean lock boxes in general, just the keys themselves. Make the boxes free to open, and easy to acquire. That would get people playing the game a lot more in vain hopes of getting a box that drops anything good... :smiley:
    (FYI, this literally has nothing to do with my signature, despite the lockboxes. :tongue: )​​
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    admiralnat wrote: »
    Hmm... any one thing, eh? Master keys. Seriously, I don't mean lock boxes in general, just the keys themselves. Make the boxes free to open, and easy to acquire. That would get people playing the game a lot more in vain hopes of getting a box that drops anything good... :smiley:
    (FYI, this literally has nothing to do with my signature, despite the lockboxes. :tongue: )​​

    I don't mind keys.

    Runescape has a similar thing, it was originally called Squeal of Fortune, now it known as Treasure Hunter, where you have keys to pop open 5 chests on screen. Sometimes you get awesome stuffs, sometimes you don't.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    and make sure she's wearing the mirror outfit ! then i could really get my "captain kirk" action on.....

    Well, that's not a mirror outfit, per say. I just like making my Trek arts with a anime/manga flavor to them, and other things as such.
    I actually used Princess Lana, a character from Captain N: The Game Master, one of my fav old school cartoons, her outfit, at least, as the inspiration of my Starfleet uniforms.

    Oh, and she might give you some surprises. ;)
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    One thing I'd remove...or alter, anyhow, is the DPS snobbery.


    Also, one hit killing an enemy, without breaking a sweat, is no fun in my opinion. I like a battle that takes some time. :D
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    I am not sure if I should feel insulted or flattered. o.o

    I solidarize with weirdos, so I'm not looking to insult you for that matter pig-26.gif​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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    warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    I think it would have to be canon material. Having canon things in STO makes my full time job as forum canon pendent and sole defender of the TV/Film universe very hard.

    I think removing anything that appeared or was referenced onscreen at any point would be the best way to solve all our problems.

    Been saying it for years, STO would be a better game if it was set in it's original universe. Hardly anyone would play it since it wouldn't be a very good game, but it would be much more bearable pig-2.gif​​

    I am mildly interested in how well a game like STO would fly as it stands but with no access to the ST IP.

    People still like spaceships right? And customisation, and free zen conversions, and lasers and stuff right?

    Sort of what like "Timelines" is doing with crews, right?

    I don't know anything about that game, I can't even find a wiki article on it. But it's still linked to the ST IP isn't it?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Timelines

    Its a mobile collectible "strategy" game (every major franchise seems to have one these days). It was fun to try, but I've seen better. The gameplay is very simplistic and requires little strategy beyond getting better cards. And the F2P implementation seemed very poor, I quickly got the impression you can't get anywhere without paying.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    One thing I'd remove...or alter, anyhow, is the DPS snobbery.

    Also, one hit killing an enemy, without breaking a sweat, is no fun in my opinion.


    No fun to the shootee, but fun to the shooter. :)

    But yeah, that's why I don't PvP.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    One thing I'd remove...or alter, anyhow, is the DPS snobbery.

    Also, one hit killing an enemy, without breaking a sweat, is no fun in my opinion.


    No fun to the shootee, but fun to the shooter. :)

    But yeah, that's why I don't PvP.

    Not to this shooter. A battle is not fun to play in a game if it's like a 1990's Mike Tyson boxing match, lasting only 30 seconds.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    One thing I'd remove...or alter, anyhow, is the DPS snobbery.

    Also, one hit killing an enemy, without breaking a sweat, is no fun in my opinion.


    No fun to the shootee, but fun to the shooter. :)

    But yeah, that's why I don't PvP.

    Not to this shooter. A battle is not fun to play in a game if it's like a 1990's Mike Tyson boxing match, lasting only 30 seconds.

    Well, when I play Call of Duty multi-player I only play hardcore mode, cause unloading an entire magazine for 1 kill annoys me, so I guess I probably disagree with you ... but then I don't PvP in MMOs so idk :)
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