I was excited when they mentioned a Kelvin timeline because I thought it had to do with the Kelvin race, from the Andromeda galaxy, which wouldve fit into the Agents of Yesterdays TOS series theme perfectly.
If they wanted to do an expansion on the reboot, at a later time, that would have been one thing but they shouldve kept with the TOS series themed content to give us more of that flavor first.
Another whiner who needs a tissue for their issue.
Keep the Haterade flowing, pew-pew is thirsty work.
Again yet another person who makes an assumption. I would love to see a well written game based on the JJ verse. It horrified me how badly it was done. You assume I hate things. I guess you really didn't read me post. You only saw how there were two things I didn't care for in JJ verse. By the Fed Ex wants your address for the tampons you need.
In your case, an assumption isn't needed. You've went far out of your way in the past to let everyone here know how much you dislike the newer films, and how everyone who disagrees with your opinion is wrong since you've watched Star Trek since TOS, as if that makes any sense.
I've also watched Star Trek since only TOS existed. Unlike you though, I'm not a Grandpa Simpson screaming at a cloud since the world has changed in a way that I dislike, and that scares me.
Who cares what you like or don't? I dislike pretty much anything since TNG, but I don't cry about it since I'm an adult, and I know no one cares. You should learn to do the same.
Fed Ex has arrived indeed, but it's not for me. They're here to deliver your tiara, since your dad raised you to be a little princess, apparently.
Thanks for the Haterade though.
"I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am."
However when it came to Into Darkness it is for the most part a sloppy rewrite of TWOK.
Actually, it wasn't. It was an expansion of a story that the original movies never told about Khan's initial banishment from earth. Both Space Seed and The Wrath of Khan took place after the time that 'Into Darkness' happened.
Have you seen both movies? Because outside of Khan being in the movie the plot couldn't have been more different.
Either way.. here is the bottom line. The Kelvin Timeline is part of Star Trek cannon lore rather anyone likes it or not. Love it or hate it, it's here to stay and it's being incorporated into the game, partially for profit reasons sure.. but also because there are a lot of us that want it.
It's in the game because it's part of Star Trek. It's really just that simple.
I like pizza and I like my cat. It don't mean I want a cat pizza. So keep the JJ out of my Prime, please.
They both have their +s and -s, but are different enough that the mesh isn't gonna work well.
Wow...
I go to work for a few hours and miss all the JJ-Jrama.
Kinda silly really, there's no way in Hell that PWE/Cryptic/CBS is going to miss out on the chance to get a piece of the monster bankroll that NU-Trek has brought in since 2009.
Heh...
Anybody who thought differently..., really wasn't using their warp-drive at full capacity.
<chuckle>
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
TOS, outside a few brilliant episodes (City on the Edge of Forever being the best), is borderline unwatchable. TNG's best stuff is likely the best the franchise ever produced, with episodes like Best of Both Worlds, Unification, Measure of a Man, and the lower decks episode with the Bajoran being knock-your-socks-off good, but a combination of Roddenberry's ban on interpersonal conflict among the main cast and far, far too many "inverse space wedgie" bottle episodes means that most of the total runtime of the show is forgettable if not actively bad. DS9 has the best average episode quality and the least bad episodes, but it gave us stinkers like Move Along Home and Meridian. Voyager... I have mad respect for the cast of that show and the way they took terrible scripts and made them watchable to good so often, but it falls on its face soooo many times and Threshold is the worst thing ever and did the writers forget the ship had an XO? Enterprise... resounding meh. Though In a Mirror Darkly is great stuff.
Movies... first wishes it was 2001 but doesn't have the stuff, second is amazing, third is adequate, fourth is funny but mot great, fifth is the second worst Trek story ever and so. Very. Long. Sixth is truly great. Seventh offs Kirk stupidly and feels like a glorified mediocre TNG episode apart from that, eighth is a great Borg story, ninth I'll come back to later, tenth gag me now.
The 2009 reboot film is better than nearly all of TOS and Enterprise and most of TNG. Had Voyager had average episodes, instead of great episodes and awful episodes, I'd rate it with average Voyager episodes. Into Darkness... Khan's a distraction. It's not a copy of Wrath of Khan. It's Insurrection, with Marcus as Daurghty and Khan as the So'na. And it's BETTER than Insurrection. Yes, the scene where Kirk dies is painful, but it doesn't drag us through a middle-aged Jonathan Frakes trying to play a teenage-again Riker and nobody gets a pimple as a plot point.
Do I think the Kelvin stuff is the best ever? Nope. But it's good enough, and more - and it will make for better gameplay than a generic TNG inverse space wedgie episode.
Do I think the Kelvin stuff is the best ever? Nope. But it's good enough, and more - and it will make for better gameplay than a generic TNG inverse space wedgie episode.
It's funny because it's true. That happened at least once a season.
Wow...
I go to work for a few hours and miss all the JJ-Jrama.
Kinda silly really, there's no way in Hell that PWE/Cryptic/CBS is going to miss out on the chance to get a piece of the monster bankroll that NU-Trek has brought in since 2009.
Heh...
Anybody who thought differently..., really wasn't using their warp-drive at full capacity.
<chuckle>
I don't know, for a long time it felt that they were missing out on this. It seems the 50 year anniversary might have triggered a bit of movement in CBS/Paramount/Viacom (the Star Trek Industrial Complex?) to see if they can't make more out of that franchise. I guess they finally realized that - to use your words - they weren't using their warp drive at full capacity.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
I don't believe anyone who is playing the game now and says they'll leave over Cryptic adding elements of a Trek film they dislike. After all, they're still around and Nimbus is in the game.
I don't believe anyone who is playing the game now and says they'll leave over Cryptic adding elements of a Trek film they dislike. After all, they're still around and Nimbus is in the game.
To be fair...
Nah, no interst in that anymore.
Sometimes the so-called fans just annoy me and make me question my choices.
The console launch, AOY and the Kelvin Timeline bring out the worst of them again. "Classic" Trek supremist, PC gamer supremists. I'd love to claim they are not real Star Trek fans, but then I'd be lowering myself to their standards. Damnnit, I am already doing it.
I can only lose. Or eat popcorn.
Haha! JJTrek is in! Now we just need that Gamma Quadrant expansion!
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
I think before we get any more factions, we need a good answer to "do you really want mega-packs to be 12 ships?" or "Do we really need MORE sniveling that player X's favorites are being short changed again?"
I know there's tons of love out there for the Cardassians and the Dominion. I don't share it, but I would be more than happy to see them happy and for Cryptic to rake in their money. I think if they were brought in as an 'alternate start' for the KDF in much the same way the TOS is an alternate starting point for Feds, I'd be on board. But I'm really NOT thrilled at the idea of any more so-called factions when Cryptic has made it abundantly clear they can't manage the diversity they have now with more than an occasional nod to different text in otherwise entirely shared missions.
I know there's tons of love out there for the Cardassians and the Dominion. I don't share it, but I would be more than happy to see them happy and for Cryptic to rake in their money. I think if they were brought in as an 'alternate start' for the KDF in much the same way the TOS is an alternate starting point for Feds, I'd be on board. But I'm really NOT thrilled at the idea of any more so-called factions when Cryptic has made it abundantly clear they can't manage the diversity they have now with more than an occasional nod to different text in otherwise entirely shared missions.
It's pretty clear at this point there is no "tons of love" for anything but the Federation. Everything else is just vocal minorities.
All the factions should be just alternate starting points.
I don’t see how introducing this universe is a disservice to Trek fans. I just see it as another place to explore.
Because its Blasphemy. It is Heresy. It is evil and must be burned.
I couldn't resist anymore. The Borg in me made me do it. (and yes, the below is meant to be highly sarcastic)
"We have a JJ-verse-lover. May we eject her from the airlock?"
"How do you know she's a JJ-verse-lover?"
"She looks like one!"
"Bring her forward."
"I'm not a JJ-verse-lover, I'm not a JJ-verse-lover."
"But you are dressed like one." "They dressed me up like this."
"No, no, we didn't."
"And this red shirt is a fake, bought off of Ebay."
"Well?"
"Well ... we did do the red shirt."
"The red shirt?"
"And the lens flares. But she is a JJ-verse-lover."
"Eject her, eject her!"
"Did you dress her up like this?"
"A bit, a bit. She has got sharp-pointed ears."
"What makes you think she's a JJ-verse-lover?"
"She turned me into a tribble."
"A tribble?"
"Well ... I got better."
"Eject her, eject her!"
"There are ways of knowing whether she is a JJ-verse-lover."
"Are there? Tell us, tell us!"
"Tell me ... what do you do with JJ-verse-lovers?"
"Eject 'em from the airlock!"
"But what else do you eject from airlocks?"
"More JJ-verse-lovers!"
"Bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"So why do JJ-verse-lovers get ejected?"
"Because ... they're bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"Goooood."
(crowd nods and murmurs agreement)
"So ... how do we tell if they're bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"Hire them to write for 'Love Boat'."
"Ah, but can't you hire them to write for 'Baywatch' as well?"
"Oh, yeah."
"Are all sci-fi episode writers bad?"
"No."
"No. Some are good. Harlan Ellison was."
"Then we get them to judge whether she's a JJ-verse-lover."
"But who else could judge her?"
"Gene Roddenberry!" "D.C. Fontana!" "Alan Dean Foster!" "James Blish!"
"JJ Abrams!"
"Exactly. Therefore ..."
"If she's as good writer as he was, she must be a good writer too."
"And therefore?"
"A JJ-verse-lover!"
"It's a fair cop."
(okay, maybe I went a bit far, but it was all meant in fun)
TOS, outside a few brilliant episodes (City on the Edge of Forever being the best), is borderline unwatchable. TNG's best stuff is likely the best the franchise ever produced, with episodes like Best of Both Worlds, Unification, Measure of a Man, and the lower decks episode with the Bajoran being knock-your-socks-off good, but a combination of Roddenberry's ban on interpersonal conflict among the main cast and far, far too many "inverse space wedgie" bottle episodes means that most of the total runtime of the show is forgettable if not actively bad. DS9 has the best average episode quality and the least bad episodes, but it gave us stinkers like Move Along Home and Meridian. Voyager... I have mad respect for the cast of that show and the way they took terrible scripts and made them watchable to good so often, but it falls on its face soooo many times and Threshold is the worst thing ever and did the writers forget the ship had an XO? Enterprise... resounding meh. Though In a Mirror Darkly is great stuff.
Movies... first wishes it was 2001 but doesn't have the stuff, second is amazing, third is adequate, fourth is funny but mot great, fifth is the second worst Trek story ever and so. Very. Long. Sixth is truly great. Seventh offs Kirk stupidly and feels like a glorified mediocre TNG episode apart from that, eighth is a great Borg story, ninth I'll come back to later, tenth gag me now.
The 2009 reboot film is better than nearly all of TOS and Enterprise and most of TNG. Had Voyager had average episodes, instead of great episodes and awful episodes, I'd rate it with average Voyager episodes. Into Darkness... Khan's a distraction. It's not a copy of Wrath of Khan. It's Insurrection, with Marcus as Daurghty and Khan as the So'na. And it's BETTER than Insurrection. Yes, the scene where Kirk dies is painful, but it doesn't drag us through a middle-aged Jonathan Frakes trying to play a teenage-again Riker and nobody gets a pimple as a plot point.
Do I think the Kelvin stuff is the best ever? Nope. But it's good enough, and more - and it will make for better gameplay than a generic TNG inverse space wedgie episode.
When you say 2009 is better than most TOS, TNG, and Enterprise are you stating a fact or opinion because it's highly debatable.
To be honest...I think 2009 is better than most Star Trek movies. I'd only put WOK and UC above it. Maybe even Voyage Home.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
yeah, TOS... was not really a good TV show. People complain about how the later series "ignored canon" and stuffsz.... Well TOS ignored the concept of canon. It didn't have enough internal consistency for the series itself to make sense as a whole.
First as a bit of intro a little about myself. I have been a Treker since day one with the very first episode that changed my life when I was 9 years old it inspired me to have a lengthy careeer in Aerospace. Later in life I have become close friends with people who made the magic happen on both large and small screen. I welcomed JJ Abrahms ideas in up until Into Darkness which came across as a hack rewrite of The Wrath of Khan. Sure I will admit I don't like the Enterprise in his films it seems clunky and off in its proportions. That said the cast did a great job catching the mannerisms of the TOS Cast. Kudoes for that!
Now to the heart of this open letter to the Devs and writers. Why do you suddenly feel the need to bring in that JJ universe into this game outside of pure profit? In AOY we are going back to the early days of the TOS timeline. Great! There are many many potential storys in that era that could be brought into the game without resorting to any of the JJ universe. Why not write game content that fits tht era instead? For instence we could explore the reasons behind the Federation/Romulan war which was refered to in Balence of Terror. You could have game play that explores what was taking up all the resources of the Romulan Empire for decades right up to the Crystline Enity which brought The federation and empire back in contact after what 70 plus years. The Trek universe is vast and full of potential game play as it is without having to bring in the JJ universe. So yeah I can understand the money end but seriously if you want to reach out to the neolite fans of the JJ universe why not create a better game for them that stands on it's own with it's own entire set of stories. Blending the two is a disservice to both groups of fans hardcore TOS and Hardcore JJ verse. I bet if you did that you would have two very strong player bases that would be happy and would be more conductive to hardline fans of both trying the others universe out.
Sure I'm going to get flamed for this but hey Trek is Trek but sometimes you have to respect that parts of it are seperate and shouldn't mix together and richly deserve thier own unique playgrounds. I look forward to AOY with the exception of the JJ verse parts. I really hope that one can opt out of doing them without failing or missing the storyline missions or content. Best of Luck with AOY.
Why? the answer is simple, your not going to get a windfall of cash from people playing tos themed missions.
You will get a windfall of cash from people buying keys to open lockboxes to try and aquire that ugly sob of an enterprise jj constitution ship people are snapping pics of on tribble.
I don't believe anyone who is playing the game now and says they'll leave over Cryptic adding elements of a Trek film they dislike. After all, they're still around and Nimbus is in the game.
To be fair...
Nah, no interst in that anymore.
Sometimes the so-called fans just annoy me and make me question my choices.
The console launch, AOY and the Kelvin Timeline bring out the worst of them again. "Classic" Trek supremist, PC gamer supremists. I'd love to claim they are not real Star Trek fans, but then I'd be lowering myself to their standards. Damnnit, I am already doing it.
I can only lose. Or eat popcorn.
Haha! JJTrek is in! Now we just need that Gamma Quadrant expansion!
Lol i couldn't care less if they do any of this, would be nice if they'd quit calling it an "expansion", it isn't.
Cant wait to see all the bugs, DC's, SNR's and DDOS attacks when they add these console versions and try and shove them through the same trusty login server.
We need to make 100's of K's off of lockbox sales, or even millions, and do absolutely nothing about any of the above, just like we have for the last six yrs, while crying poverty and low staffing.
I felt that the JJTrek movies were good movies, but, IMO they are not canon. Why? JJ decided to blow up Vulcan before Kirk was even captain. The only way I, personally, will ever think of JJTrek as being canon is if they either restore planet Vulcan or call it an alternate universe. But how and where do you draw the line between canon and alternate universe? Why would JJTrek be canon and not the cartoon series, the novels or even comics? TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise were all Star Trek, but were very different in many ways. I think Cryptic has done a good job of weaving them all together. I hope they do a good job of adding JJTrek, because obviously Cryptic is going that route. I also hope that AOY focuses more on TOS than JJTrek.
I felt that the JJTrek movies were good movies, but, IMO they are not canon. Why? JJ decided to blow up Vulcan before Kirk was even captain. The only way I, personally, will ever think of JJTrek as being canon is if they either restore planet Vulcan or call it an alternate universe.
It is an Alternate Universe. That was the whole point.
Blowing up the planet Vulcan made Vulcans about five-hundred times more interesting. And pretty much pimp-slapped the smug right off the face of the Vulcan Science Council FOREVER. No more lounging around as the big brains of the Federation. Now you have a group with a purpose, with some desperation, with needs not easily fulfilled. They were bloody lotus eaters in the prime timeline.
Its also the necessary bookend to the death of Captain Pike. Both protagonists literally have their entire world destroyed, and afterwards we see their essential character laid bare.
First as a bit of intro a little about myself. I have been a Treker since day one with the very first episode that changed my life when I was 9 years old it inspired me to have a lengthy careeer in Aerospace. Later in life I have become close friends with people who made the magic happen on both large and small screen. I welcomed JJ Abrahms ideas in up until Into Darkness which came across as a hack rewrite of The Wrath of Khan. Sure I will admit I don't like the Enterprise in his films it seems clunky and off in its proportions. That said the cast did a great job catching the mannerisms of the TOS Cast. Kudoes for that!
Now to the heart of this open letter to the Devs and writers. Why do you suddenly feel the need to bring in that JJ universe into this game outside of pure profit? In AOY we are going back to the early days of the TOS timeline. Great! There are many many potential storys in that era that could be brought into the game without resorting to any of the JJ universe. Why not write game content that fits tht era instead? For instence we could explore the reasons behind the Federation/Romulan war which was refered to in Balence of Terror. You could have game play that explores what was taking up all the resources of the Romulan Empire for decades right up to the Crystline Enity which brought The federation and empire back in contact after what 70 plus years. The Trek universe is vast and full of potential game play as it is without having to bring in the JJ universe. So yeah I can understand the money end but seriously if you want to reach out to the neolite fans of the JJ universe why not create a better game for them that stands on it's own with it's own entire set of stories. Blending the two is a disservice to both groups of fans hardcore TOS and Hardcore JJ verse. I bet if you did that you would have two very strong player bases that would be happy and would be more conductive to hardline fans of both trying the others universe out.
Sure I'm going to get flamed for this but hey Trek is Trek but sometimes you have to respect that parts of it are seperate and shouldn't mix together and richly deserve thier own unique playgrounds. I look forward to AOY with the exception of the JJ verse parts. I really hope that one can opt out of doing them without failing or missing the storyline missions or content. Best of Luck with AOY.
“Change is the essential process of all existence.” – Spock
"TREK" has changed too
slowly in the years
with each new trek seris
nothing signficant has changed in the storyingtelling
but it is the progressive nature of "trek"
which has been changing
what was once meaningfull has became insignificant
Liberaty Freedom Equal rights Humanity ... all those you find in any "trek"
stuffs which inspire (generations of ) people
but you will a hard time to find any of those in JJ verse,
I enjoyed all of the Trek stuff, from TOS all the way through the movies. I don't mind that they're bringing in JJ-Altverse stuff in, I found it to be very different and enjoyable to watch. I never once thought of TWoK when I watched Into Darkness, I found it to be more into seeing his character before we met him in TOS and TWoK. JJ-Trek is set in an alternate timeline from TOS, fueled by Hobus. At least that's what I heard. In any case, I only had a few problems with any of the movies/series that didn't affect my enjoyment of them overall.
I'm interested in seeing what they have to offer. And I intend to make a AoY captain, like I did a Delta Recruit. All this hate one way or another isn't good for anyone. I just try to enjoy the game as is and on the limited budget that I have.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
Regardless of how you feel about the movies, it's just one single mission. The expansion is still called Agents of Yesterday, not Agents of the JJ Universe. Relax, if you absolutely do not want to experience JJ content, click "skip" on this ONE mission and pretend it doesn't exist.
I cant think of any other time I saw people get angry with the devs of an MMO because they ADDED more content ...
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If they wanted to do an expansion on the reboot, at a later time, that would have been one thing but they shouldve kept with the TOS series themed content to give us more of that flavor first.
In your case, an assumption isn't needed. You've went far out of your way in the past to let everyone here know how much you dislike the newer films, and how everyone who disagrees with your opinion is wrong since you've watched Star Trek since TOS, as if that makes any sense.
I've also watched Star Trek since only TOS existed. Unlike you though, I'm not a Grandpa Simpson screaming at a cloud since the world has changed in a way that I dislike, and that scares me.
Who cares what you like or don't? I dislike pretty much anything since TNG, but I don't cry about it since I'm an adult, and I know no one cares. You should learn to do the same.
Fed Ex has arrived indeed, but it's not for me. They're here to deliver your tiara, since your dad raised you to be a little princess, apparently.
Thanks for the Haterade though.
Is this another one of those Cryptic bashing threads that is upset because everything new is Federation focused and not Klingon exclusive?
Actually, it wasn't. It was an expansion of a story that the original movies never told about Khan's initial banishment from earth. Both Space Seed and The Wrath of Khan took place after the time that 'Into Darkness' happened.
Have you seen both movies? Because outside of Khan being in the movie the plot couldn't have been more different.
Either way.. here is the bottom line. The Kelvin Timeline is part of Star Trek cannon lore rather anyone likes it or not. Love it or hate it, it's here to stay and it's being incorporated into the game, partially for profit reasons sure.. but also because there are a lot of us that want it.
It's in the game because it's part of Star Trek. It's really just that simple.
They both have their +s and -s, but are different enough that the mesh isn't gonna work well.
I go to work for a few hours and miss all the JJ-Jrama.
Kinda silly really, there's no way in Hell that PWE/Cryptic/CBS is going to miss out on the chance to get a piece of the monster bankroll that NU-Trek has brought in since 2009.
Heh...
Anybody who thought differently..., really wasn't using their warp-drive at full capacity.
<chuckle>
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Most of Star Trek is awful.
TOS, outside a few brilliant episodes (City on the Edge of Forever being the best), is borderline unwatchable. TNG's best stuff is likely the best the franchise ever produced, with episodes like Best of Both Worlds, Unification, Measure of a Man, and the lower decks episode with the Bajoran being knock-your-socks-off good, but a combination of Roddenberry's ban on interpersonal conflict among the main cast and far, far too many "inverse space wedgie" bottle episodes means that most of the total runtime of the show is forgettable if not actively bad. DS9 has the best average episode quality and the least bad episodes, but it gave us stinkers like Move Along Home and Meridian. Voyager... I have mad respect for the cast of that show and the way they took terrible scripts and made them watchable to good so often, but it falls on its face soooo many times and Threshold is the worst thing ever and did the writers forget the ship had an XO? Enterprise... resounding meh. Though In a Mirror Darkly is great stuff.
Movies... first wishes it was 2001 but doesn't have the stuff, second is amazing, third is adequate, fourth is funny but mot great, fifth is the second worst Trek story ever and so. Very. Long. Sixth is truly great. Seventh offs Kirk stupidly and feels like a glorified mediocre TNG episode apart from that, eighth is a great Borg story, ninth I'll come back to later, tenth gag me now.
The 2009 reboot film is better than nearly all of TOS and Enterprise and most of TNG. Had Voyager had average episodes, instead of great episodes and awful episodes, I'd rate it with average Voyager episodes. Into Darkness... Khan's a distraction. It's not a copy of Wrath of Khan. It's Insurrection, with Marcus as Daurghty and Khan as the So'na. And it's BETTER than Insurrection. Yes, the scene where Kirk dies is painful, but it doesn't drag us through a middle-aged Jonathan Frakes trying to play a teenage-again Riker and nobody gets a pimple as a plot point.
Do I think the Kelvin stuff is the best ever? Nope. But it's good enough, and more - and it will make for better gameplay than a generic TNG inverse space wedgie episode.
My character Tsin'xing
I don't know, for a long time it felt that they were missing out on this. It seems the 50 year anniversary might have triggered a bit of movement in CBS/Paramount/Viacom (the Star Trek Industrial Complex?) to see if they can't make more out of that franchise. I guess they finally realized that - to use your words - they weren't using their warp drive at full capacity.
I don't believe anyone who is playing the game now and says they'll leave over Cryptic adding elements of a Trek film they dislike. After all, they're still around and Nimbus is in the game.
Nah, no interst in that anymore.
Sometimes the so-called fans just annoy me and make me question my choices.
The console launch, AOY and the Kelvin Timeline bring out the worst of them again. "Classic" Trek supremist, PC gamer supremists. I'd love to claim they are not real Star Trek fans, but then I'd be lowering myself to their standards. Damnnit, I am already doing it.
I can only lose. Or eat popcorn.
Haha! JJTrek is in! Now we just need that Gamma Quadrant expansion!
I know there's tons of love out there for the Cardassians and the Dominion. I don't share it, but I would be more than happy to see them happy and for Cryptic to rake in their money. I think if they were brought in as an 'alternate start' for the KDF in much the same way the TOS is an alternate starting point for Feds, I'd be on board. But I'm really NOT thrilled at the idea of any more so-called factions when Cryptic has made it abundantly clear they can't manage the diversity they have now with more than an occasional nod to different text in otherwise entirely shared missions.
All the factions should be just alternate starting points.
I couldn't resist anymore. The Borg in me made me do it. (and yes, the below is meant to be highly sarcastic)
"We have a JJ-verse-lover. May we eject her from the airlock?"
"How do you know she's a JJ-verse-lover?"
"She looks like one!"
"Bring her forward."
"I'm not a JJ-verse-lover, I'm not a JJ-verse-lover."
"But you are dressed like one."
"They dressed me up like this."
"No, no, we didn't."
"And this red shirt is a fake, bought off of Ebay."
"Well?"
"Well ... we did do the red shirt."
"The red shirt?"
"And the lens flares. But she is a JJ-verse-lover."
"Eject her, eject her!"
"Did you dress her up like this?"
"A bit, a bit. She has got sharp-pointed ears."
"What makes you think she's a JJ-verse-lover?"
"She turned me into a tribble."
"A tribble?"
"Well ... I got better."
"Eject her, eject her!"
"There are ways of knowing whether she is a JJ-verse-lover."
"Are there? Tell us, tell us!"
"Tell me ... what do you do with JJ-verse-lovers?"
"Eject 'em from the airlock!"
"But what else do you eject from airlocks?"
"More JJ-verse-lovers!"
"Bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"So why do JJ-verse-lovers get ejected?"
"Because ... they're bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"Goooood."
(crowd nods and murmurs agreement)
"So ... how do we tell if they're bad sci-fi episode writers?"
"Hire them to write for 'Love Boat'."
"Ah, but can't you hire them to write for 'Baywatch' as well?"
"Oh, yeah."
"Are all sci-fi episode writers bad?"
"No."
"No. Some are good. Harlan Ellison was."
"Then we get them to judge whether she's a JJ-verse-lover."
"But who else could judge her?"
"Gene Roddenberry!" "D.C. Fontana!" "Alan Dean Foster!" "James Blish!"
"JJ Abrams!"
"Exactly. Therefore ..."
"If she's as good writer as he was, she must be a good writer too."
"And therefore?"
"A JJ-verse-lover!"
"It's a fair cop."
(okay, maybe I went a bit far, but it was all meant in fun)
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When you say 2009 is better than most TOS, TNG, and Enterprise are you stating a fact or opinion because it's highly debatable.
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Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
My character Tsin'xing
Why? the answer is simple, your not going to get a windfall of cash from people playing tos themed missions.
You will get a windfall of cash from people buying keys to open lockboxes to try and aquire that ugly sob of an enterprise jj constitution ship people are snapping pics of on tribble.
Lol i couldn't care less if they do any of this, would be nice if they'd quit calling it an "expansion", it isn't.
Cant wait to see all the bugs, DC's, SNR's and DDOS attacks when they add these console versions and try and shove them through the same trusty login server.
We need to make 100's of K's off of lockbox sales, or even millions, and do absolutely nothing about any of the above, just like we have for the last six yrs, while crying poverty and low staffing.
It is an Alternate Universe. That was the whole point.
Its also the necessary bookend to the death of Captain Pike. Both protagonists literally have their entire world destroyed, and afterwards we see their essential character laid bare.
“Change is the essential process of all existence.” – Spock
"TREK" has changed too
slowly in the years
with each new trek seris
nothing signficant has changed in the storyingtelling
but it is the progressive nature of "trek"
which has been changing
what was once meaningfull has became insignificant
Liberaty Freedom Equal rights Humanity ... all those you find in any "trek"
stuffs which inspire (generations of ) people
but you will a hard time to find any of those in JJ verse,
I'm interested in seeing what they have to offer. And I intend to make a AoY captain, like I did a Delta Recruit. All this hate one way or another isn't good for anyone. I just try to enjoy the game as is and on the limited budget that I have.
I cant think of any other time I saw people get angry with the devs of an MMO because they ADDED more content ...
Usually they're clamoring for more content.