Azrael is right... TrekCore stresses that in their article, too.
I highly doubt they have a ship or crew right now, let alone costume design... we'd be lucky if they have a title for the series, at this point. This will just be a hype generator. See the following:
april is coming up, you should know whats coming at the start of that month of course.
Given that April 1st is on a Friday, I highly doubt CBS would release a prank story about the new series on that day. Aside from the PR hit, you only release news on Friday if you want it buried.
I'd say stick to reputable sources (the official ST site, TrekCore, etc) for news... and you don't have to worry about someone pulling an April Fools prank on March 20, LOL.
april is coming up, you should know whats coming at the start of that month of course.
Given that April 1st is on a Friday, I highly doubt CBS would release a prank story about the new series on that day. Aside from the PR hit, you only release news on Friday if you want it buried.
I'd say stick to reputable sources (the official ST site, TrekCore, etc) for news... and you don't have to worry about someone pulling an April Fools prank on March 20, LOL.
once a year and you want to bury the chance to fool the trek community for that one time in the year? that i doubt will happen, im sure somewhere in an otherwise accurate piece of infomation there will be a prank, for example they chose patrick stewart to play as the holographic recreation of Picard to learn from for a new captain in an "apparent" leak for info about the new storyline. all i am stating is that you wont know for sure.
as for playing a prank this early, being as suspicious and as paranoid as i am, i expect it in proximity to 1st of april, you stated it yourself, if there wont be one on friday, then there could be a running theme towards that end that ends up with the one media group admitting it was an elaborate hoax with cbs approval .
how would any of us know for sure, hell, what you wrote could be a prelude to an april fools joke in the making, i dont know you and so how could i tell? xD.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
april is coming up, you should know whats coming at the start of that month of course.
Given that April 1st is on a Friday, I highly doubt CBS would release a prank story about the new series on that day. Aside from the PR hit, you only release news on Friday if you want it buried.
I'd say stick to reputable sources (the official ST site, TrekCore, etc) for news... and you don't have to worry about someone pulling an April Fools prank on March 20, LOL.
once a year and you want to bury the chance to fool the trek community for that one time in the year? that i doubt will happen, im sure somewhere in an otherwise accurate piece of infomation there will be a prank, for example they chose patrick stewart to play as the holographic recreation of Picard to learn from for a new captain in an "apparent" leak for info about the new storyline. all i am stating is that you wont know for sure.
as for playing a prank this early, being as suspicious and as paranoid as i am, i expect it in proximity to 1st of april, you stated it yourself, if there wont be one on friday, then there could be a running theme towards that end that ends up with the one media group admitting it was an elaborate hoax with cbs approval .
how would any of us know for sure, hell, what you wrote could be a prelude to an april fools joke in the making, i dont know you and so how could i tell? xD.
I'm afraid I'm not that creative, LOL... and, wow, you're paranoid.
I will say, though... I'm almost expecting some Hollywood site, like a Latino Review, falling for a Trek series prank. But, that is why I don't trust those "gossip" sites.
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TrekCore has now confirmed with CBS that these leaked photos (featured below, and on many other sites over the past week, ostensibly from a CBS lighting technician) are in fact, not from the upcoming "Star Trek" production, but from another unrelated project.
Our apologies for featuring these incorrect images.
I'm just excited regardless and hope it is great and stays on the air longer than Enterprise. I know - four seasons is nothing to sneeze at, but it's been so long.
TrekCore has now confirmed with CBS that these leaked photos (featured below, and on many other sites over the past week, ostensibly from a CBS lighting technician) are in fact, not from the upcoming "Star Trek" production, but from another unrelated project.
Our apologies for featuring these incorrect images.
and you are wondering why i am paranoid and suspicious...
I'm just excited regardless and hope it is great and stays on the air longer than Enterprise. I know - four seasons is nothing to sneeze at, but it's been so long.
considering that crock that was time travel, i cant ever see the producers of this show following that path. why shoot yourself in the foot? stick to tried and true methods and expand on it.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Yeah, that was so much worse than the time travel in TOS, or TNG, or DS9, where they actually had to introduce the Department of Temporal Investigation... <rolleyes>
Yeah, that was so much worse than the time travel in TOS, or TNG, or DS9, where they actually had to introduce the Department of Temporal Investigation... <rolleyes>
Well, I'd say it's more of a matter of how they used it. From what I understand, the general consensus is that the Temporal Cold War was pretty... badly executed at the very least, even if the concept was good.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
So, this is "official" in the sense that it came from CBS... but, it is NOT official, in the sense that it is in no way meant for public consumption (oh, Internet, LOL) and has ZERO bearing on the new series.
So, not unlike the green screen photos... not a "fake," but not related to the new series at all.
So, this is "official" in the sense that it came from CBS... but, it is NOT official, in the sense that it is in no way meant for public consumption (oh, Internet, LOL) and has ZERO bearing on the new series.
So, not unlike the green screen photos... not a "fake," but not related to the new series at all.
Yeah, that was so much worse than the time travel in TOS, or TNG, or DS9, where they actually had to introduce the Department of Temporal Investigation... <rolleyes>
Well, I'd say it's more of a matter of how they used it. From what I understand, the general consensus is that the Temporal Cold War was pretty... badly executed at the very least, even if the concept was good.
Yes, that's it exactly. The Star Trek version of time travel, in which the past can be changed so you have to be really careful, isn't the bad part - the Temporal Cold War was a bad idea, particularly as it finished up with the infamous alien National Socialist German Worker's Party* space lizards. The writers should have been forced to go read Fritz Lieber's Change War stories, if they were determined to have everything in Trek be the fault of two (or more) sides fighting across the timescape. Maybe throw in parts of Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, while we're at it. Learn what such a conflict might look like to people whose history shifts almost randomly as a result of the interference of possible futures. (Hell, use that as an explanation for the differences between old Trek history and the real world - the Eugenics Wars happened behind the scenes in the current iteration of reality because someone was trying to eliminate the influence of Khan Noonien Singh from the timeline, only to discover that he tends to warp people in his wake whether it's aboveground or under. WWIII was supposed to happen in the early 21st century, but was delayed. The level of regulation that led to the Bell Riots is currently being obviated by sudden advances in quantum technology and 3D printing. And so forth.)
But no, that level of imagination and integration was apparently beyond the scope of the ENT writers' room.
*Apparently, the censor doesn't like the common term for the old NSDAP, which controlled Germany and attempted to conquer the rest of Europe in the 1940s.
I've watched a lot of the Trekpertise guy before... it's good stuff, but I disagree with some of his points.
He uses the term "multiverse"... which I like, because it really is true... but, sometimes I'm not entirely sure if he realizes the definition of his own term. He could have worded his explanation of the Abramsverse a little better, as an example of a universe within the multiverse. He sorta does that, but the wording is a bit clunky. Further, if there ever is a hard reboot... said reboot would still be a part of the Trek multiverse, it would just have a different point of divergence (really leaning on "Parallels" here).
And, I think the team CBS has assembled so far is heavy in creativity, and that's where the series will rest first. I agree that a hard reboot can be a copout for real creativity, but it's not a lock. My point: if there was any team that could continue with the continuity of the multiverse, this is a great start. Conversely, if there was a team capable of leading a good hard reboot, this is a great start. (There are great creative reasons to stay in established universes, there are ample reasons to reboot.)
One last thing... I could care less about the Voth, LOL. His premise would be interesting in STO, but that's about it.
Haha, yeah, the Voth are horrible. But I think it's the writing challenge of taking something dull and somehow making them interesting is what's appealing.
A reboot could be done well, but I don't know why, but for me it will always feel like the lazy way out. Probably because TNG proved you could continue a universe successfully.
I'm late to the game; I just discovered Trekspertise.
The Star Trek version of time travel, in which the past can be changed so you have to be really careful, isn't the bad part - the Temporal Cold War was a bad idea, particularly as it finished up with the infamous alien National Socialist German Worker's Party* space lizards.
*Apparently, the censor doesn't like the common term for the old NSDAP, which controlled Germany and attempted to conquer the rest of Europe in the 1940s.
I'd argue it's funnier and makes the Na'Kul slightly more ridiculous to use to fully spelt out nickname. National-Socialist-German Worker's-Party-Space-Lizards.
But I'd also argue that a forum censor idea is bloody bollocks that apparently can't handle foreign languages, as it appears I can bamboozle them .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I read an interesting thread today on the Sar Trek subreddit...
Someone posted a report from Wondercon *happening in LA), from a panel by author Mark Altman. He wrote the books about the history of TOS, if memory serves... and he's writing a new book on the history of Trek. He interviewed Bryan Fuller for the book, before he was hired, and asked him what kind of Trek series Fuller would do. After Fuller got the showrunner job, he called Altman back and asked him to pull the interview from his book.
Whether or not the interview contained the actual series pitch it was approved by CBS is unclear, and Altman says he doesn't know much... but, he did say that the new series to be in a universe that all fans will be "happy" with, and that it won't be afraid to have conflict among the characters (unlike early TNG, for example, where writers were not allowed to have conflict amongst the crew). The core of Trek, however, will be maintained.
I read an interesting thread today on the Sar Trek subreddit...
Someone posted a report from Wondercon *happening in LA), from a panel by author Mark Altman. He wrote the books about the history of TOS, if memory serves... and he's writing a new book on the history of Trek. He interviewed Bryan Fuller for the book, before he was hired, and asked him what kind of Trek series Fuller would do. After Fuller got the showrunner job, he called Altman back and asked him to pull the interview from his book.
Whether or not the interview contained the actual series pitch it was approved by CBS is unclear, and Altman says he doesn't know much... but, he did say that the new series to be in a universe that all fans will be "happy" with, and that it won't be afraid to have conflict among the characters (unlike early TNG, for example, where writers were not allowed to have conflict amongst the crew). The core of Trek, however, will be maintained.
Interesting stuff, if you believe it.
I doubt very much that any interview with Fuller from before he was hired would have any information about the new show since Fuller did not pitch the new show. Kurtzman pitched the show, Kurtzman hired Fuller, CBS announced the new series over a month before Fuller was even hired.
Yes, I agree... but, what I can't tell is if the nugget about the universe setting occurred after Fuller was hired.
I still think it's 60/40 for Primeverse/Abramsverse... gotta give the obvious edge to the Prime universe, since CBS owns it outright. But, Paramount did stuff in the Prime universe in the 2009 movie, so it's not as clear-cut as some (Altman included, it sounds) would lead to believe.
I do think, however, that I am now openly rooting for the new series to be in the Abramsverse... just so I can hear the salty tears on the Internet. Just dealt with my third abrasive conversation (in as many days) about Abrams, and how much I'm supposed to hate him and his films... I swear, this fan base...
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Had enough of that with ENT.
I highly doubt they have a ship or crew right now, let alone costume design... we'd be lucky if they have a title for the series, at this point. This will just be a hype generator. See the following:
The teaser for Enterprise, which made me think that the series had to do with Robert April:
The teaser for Star Trek [2009], which doesn't even show the title:
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Given that April 1st is on a Friday, I highly doubt CBS would release a prank story about the new series on that day. Aside from the PR hit, you only release news on Friday if you want it buried.
I'd say stick to reputable sources (the official ST site, TrekCore, etc) for news... and you don't have to worry about someone pulling an April Fools prank on March 20, LOL.
once a year and you want to bury the chance to fool the trek community for that one time in the year? that i doubt will happen, im sure somewhere in an otherwise accurate piece of infomation there will be a prank, for example they chose patrick stewart to play as the holographic recreation of Picard to learn from for a new captain in an "apparent" leak for info about the new storyline. all i am stating is that you wont know for sure.
as for playing a prank this early, being as suspicious and as paranoid as i am, i expect it in proximity to 1st of april, you stated it yourself, if there wont be one on friday, then there could be a running theme towards that end that ends up with the one media group admitting it was an elaborate hoax with cbs approval
how would any of us know for sure, hell, what you wrote could be a prelude to an april fools joke in the making, i dont know you and so how could i tell? xD.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I'm afraid I'm not that creative, LOL... and, wow, you're paranoid.
I will say, though... I'm almost expecting some Hollywood site, like a Latino Review, falling for a Trek series prank. But, that is why I don't trust those "gossip" sites.
http://screenrant.com/best-things-star-trek-new-tv-show/
These are all good ideas, but I'd rather not see the unrated episodes happen. I think Star Trek in the prime universe should have more integrity than that.
"Star Trek: Rubicon" Season 1, Season 2 A new era, a new time, a new crew, a new ship, a new mission...
"I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment because it will never come again."- Jean-Luc Picard
I think you've just stated the hopes of everyone who preferred the prime universe.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/03/first-photos-from-star-trek-2017-pre-production/
the very fact it exists is enough.
and you are wondering why i am paranoid and suspicious...
considering that crock that was time travel, i cant ever see the producers of this show following that path. why shoot yourself in the foot? stick to tried and true methods and expand on it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Well, I'd say it's more of a matter of how they used it. From what I understand, the general consensus is that the Temporal Cold War was pretty... badly executed at the very least, even if the concept was good.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/03/no-this-is-not-an-official-star-trek-2017-poster/
So, this is "official" in the sense that it came from CBS... but, it is NOT official, in the sense that it is in no way meant for public consumption (oh, Internet, LOL) and has ZERO bearing on the new series.
So, not unlike the green screen photos... not a "fake," but not related to the new series at all.
I'm just going to leave this here....
But no, that level of imagination and integration was apparently beyond the scope of the ENT writers' room.
*Apparently, the censor doesn't like the common term for the old NSDAP, which controlled Germany and attempted to conquer the rest of Europe in the 1940s.
He uses the term "multiverse"... which I like, because it really is true... but, sometimes I'm not entirely sure if he realizes the definition of his own term. He could have worded his explanation of the Abramsverse a little better, as an example of a universe within the multiverse. He sorta does that, but the wording is a bit clunky. Further, if there ever is a hard reboot... said reboot would still be a part of the Trek multiverse, it would just have a different point of divergence (really leaning on "Parallels" here).
And, I think the team CBS has assembled so far is heavy in creativity, and that's where the series will rest first. I agree that a hard reboot can be a copout for real creativity, but it's not a lock. My point: if there was any team that could continue with the continuity of the multiverse, this is a great start. Conversely, if there was a team capable of leading a good hard reboot, this is a great start. (There are great creative reasons to stay in established universes, there are ample reasons to reboot.)
One last thing... I could care less about the Voth, LOL. His premise would be interesting in STO, but that's about it.
A reboot could be done well, but I don't know why, but for me it will always feel like the lazy way out. Probably because TNG proved you could continue a universe successfully.
I'm late to the game; I just discovered Trekspertise.
I'd argue it's funnier and makes the Na'Kul slightly more ridiculous to use to fully spelt out nickname. National-Socialist-German Worker's-Party-Space-Lizards.
But I'd also argue that a forum censor idea is bloody bollocks that apparently can't handle foreign languages, as it appears I can bamboozle them
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Someone posted a report from Wondercon *happening in LA), from a panel by author Mark Altman. He wrote the books about the history of TOS, if memory serves... and he's writing a new book on the history of Trek. He interviewed Bryan Fuller for the book, before he was hired, and asked him what kind of Trek series Fuller would do. After Fuller got the showrunner job, he called Altman back and asked him to pull the interview from his book.
Whether or not the interview contained the actual series pitch it was approved by CBS is unclear, and Altman says he doesn't know much... but, he did say that the new series to be in a universe that all fans will be "happy" with, and that it won't be afraid to have conflict among the characters (unlike early TNG, for example, where writers were not allowed to have conflict amongst the crew). The core of Trek, however, will be maintained.
Interesting stuff, if you believe it.
Yes, I agree... but, what I can't tell is if the nugget about the universe setting occurred after Fuller was hired.
I still think it's 60/40 for Primeverse/Abramsverse... gotta give the obvious edge to the Prime universe, since CBS owns it outright. But, Paramount did stuff in the Prime universe in the 2009 movie, so it's not as clear-cut as some (Altman included, it sounds) would lead to believe.
I do think, however, that I am now openly rooting for the new series to be in the Abramsverse... just so I can hear the salty tears on the Internet. Just dealt with my third abrasive conversation (in as many days) about Abrams, and how much I'm supposed to hate him and his films... I swear, this fan base...
https://twitter.com/startrekroom
Not really newsworthy now, but could be soon, and it could have great behind-the-scenes stuff soon.