Slap a third nacelle on the Excelsior modeled on the Galaxy X to further distinguish it from the Connie. It's still a fine design.
Call it a Light Dreadnought.
Emphasize saucer sep and make it like the little cousin of the G-X that is cannon friendly.
Pilot specialization, too!
I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Are you suggesting your idea of a 3-nacelled Excelsior would have the Excalibur as a skin? If not...wrong thread?
Er. No typo'd.
3 nacelled Excalibur (which defuses some of the Connie comparisons) as a mini-Galaxy-X with pilot specialization and ability to saucer separate, which further visually separates it from the Connie (the Connie supposedly could separate but we never saw it and this makes it all around more like a mini-Galaxy-X).
Ah, I see. That's definitely an interesting idea. That said, a 3 nacelled ship is not what I'm asking for. I wouldn't mind it being an option though. If they made 2 separate versions, like with the Gal and Gal-x, that would also allow them to make twice the money.
Honestly I don't know why a tier 6 or 5 Excalibur or exter hasn't happened yet, seems like a gold mine, so something is holding them back and I don't know why. Maybe they are afraid people will get there pichforks out when it doesn't have connie parts...
But as far stats go I'd like to see it have turn rate of 11 or greater, standard cruiser shields, but weak hull.
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My comparison was between 200+ year old ships. The Galaxy, while iconic, is pretty much contempory with our gameplay.
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odd thought... is the excalibur maybe a leftover from before cryptic took the reigns?
Good point - it is; as pointed out in the OP, it featured on the box art when the game was first released under Atari.
Although I wouldn't have thought that this would have had any real impact - Cryptic would have 'inherited' the right to use that design when it took the licence.
I have never seen the Excalibur on any of Perpetual's concept art. Also, the Atari logo has nothing to do with Perpetual. When Atari bought Cryptic, they had already secured and started work on STO themselves. So no, I don't think the Excalibur has anything to do with Perpetual.
i see this "idea" is still on the ground, good. hopefully it is shot down on the ground as well.
Thanks for the bump! But seriously, if a dev confirms CBS said they can't make the Excalibur, that's fine. But they have never actually said that, so that is what I am asking.
@jodarkrider, is this thread legitimate or another one of those connie threads?
I am *explicitly* saying I don't want an end game connie. In the OP, I *explicitly* said to lock out the connie parts. So while mods can obviously do what they want, if anyone claims this thread is about asking for an end game connie that will be an actual lie.
Yeah. thegrandnagus1 wants an endgame Excalibur. [ see pic in thread above ]
So TGN, a question...
Would you except an Excalibur as a T6 (if the Devs offered it) but did not offer it as Very Rare? I ask because I've been toddling about in a Tier 6 Resolute Class Advanced Heavy Cruiser and it sold as Rare.
I like it regardless, but I might have picked something else if I had known it wasn't VR.
@jodarkrider, is this thread legitimate or another one of those connie threads?
I am *explicitly* saying I don't want an end game connie. In the OP, I *explicitly* said to lock out the connie parts. So while mods can obviously do what they want, if anyone claims this thread is about asking for an end game connie that will be an actual lie.
Yeah. thegrandnagus1 wants an endgame Excalibur. [ see pic in thread above ]
So TGN, a question...
Would you except an Excalibur as a T6 (if the Devs offered it) but did not offer it as Very Rare? I ask because I've been toddling about in a Tier 6 Resolute Class Advanced Heavy Cruiser and it sold as Rare.
I like it regardless, but I might have picked something else if I had known it wasn't VR.
Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you mean by "did not offer it as very rare"?
@jodarkrider, is this thread legitimate or another one of those connie threads?
I am *explicitly* saying I don't want an end game connie. In the OP, I *explicitly* said to lock out the connie parts. So while mods can obviously do what they want, if anyone claims this thread is about asking for an end game connie that will be an actual lie.
Yeah. thegrandnagus1 wants an endgame Excalibur. [ see pic in thread above ]
So TGN, a question...
Would you except an Excalibur as a T6 (if the Devs offered it) but did not offer it as Very Rare? I ask because I've been toddling about in a Tier 6 Resolute Class Advanced Heavy Cruiser and it sold as Rare.
I like it regardless, but I might have picked something else if I had known it wasn't VR.
Another stroke of Cryptic brilliance. The Vesta card is a VR, but the t6 Mogh is only a Rare.
That's because the Vesta is fleet level and, unless you've bought the fleet level Mogh, the Mogh is not fleet level.
So what does that mean? The Vesta is a C-Store ship. I don't have a fleet version.
The Vesta (and flagship varients, command ships and pilot ships) all come out of the C-store at flett level, so there are no fleet versions of them specifically, thats why they have VR admiralty cards, most event ships are also fleet level and VR cards while the majority of C-store ships are only Rare becuase tey have a fleet level version sold seperately.
Tbh i dont like the excalibur design its like a sovereigns mini me , i think why theres so many who like it is cause its a mini sov, not that its a unique design cause it isnt, just a shrunken sov nothing more nothing less and not that big of deal.
as far as a T5-T5U-T6 connie? no just no
If this was a game based on TOS or the TMP era then yes but this is set farther in the trek timeline, the connie would be obscolete , sadly enough the connies by curent trek time would be a garbage scow, yes scottyi said it but its true now.
If there was a ship from TOS or TMP era that could be rebuilt as a T5-T5U or T6 its the miranda its been around forever and each time its thought she will be retired she is refitted with current tech and put back into service.
and id like to see a cryptic design based off the old miranda
If this was a game based on TOS or the TMP era then yes but this is set farther in the trek timeline, the connie would be obscolete , sadly enough the connies by curent trek time would be a garbage scow, yes scottyi said it but its true now.
You are confused. This thread is *not* asking for a T5/6 connie. As far as the Excalibur goes, it is a modern ship in STO's time period.
You are confused. This thread is *not* asking for a T5/6 connie. As far as the Excalibur goes, it is a modern ship in STO's time period.
exerpt from the T2 cruiser page -
The Excalibur class is well-suited for cargo or transport missions. Its expansive cargo holds make it indispensable to Starfleet as a vessel used to resupply planets, space stations, and other starships. The power systems make it possible to run industrial replicators indefinitely, making this class the ideal choice for evacuation and mercy missions.
The Excalibur is most prominently seen in advertisements, and at one point as the main website background, of Star Trek Online.
Not sure that classifys it as modern, I don't consider anything below T4 to be a modern but to each their own.
Not sure that classifys it as modern, I don't consider anything below T4 to be a modern but to each their own.
Actually, it has nothing to do with "to each his own". Cryptic's own lore that they wrote for the Excalibur said it was commissioned in 2391. That is on the very same page you referred to. I'm not sure if you simply missed it, or conveniently ignored it since it didn't agree with your point. Either way, it is what it is.
Not sure that classifys it as modern, I don't consider anything below T4 to be a modern but to each their own.
Actually, it has nothing to do with "to each his own". Cryptic's own lore that they wrote for the Excalibur said it was commissioned in 2391. That is on the very same page you referred to. I'm not sure if you simply missed it, or conveniently ignored it since it didn't agree with your point. Either way, it is what it is.
Link that info please that date doesn't appear on either of the T2 cruiser or cruiser refit pages on wiki that I saw.
Not sure that classifys it as modern, I don't consider anything below T4 to be a modern but to each their own.
Actually, it has nothing to do with "to each his own". Cryptic's own lore that they wrote for the Excalibur said it was commissioned in 2391. That is on the very same page you referred to. I'm not sure if you simply missed it, or conveniently ignored it since it didn't agree with your point. Either way, it is what it is.
Link that info please that date doesn't appear on either of the T2 cruiser or cruiser refit pages on wiki that I saw.
Oh, I gotcha. We are looking at 2 different places:
FYI, all of that used to be on the actual Star Trek Online website when the game launched, so it was all written by Cryptic. They actually used to have a page for all of the ships in game, but eventually scrapped it all. I think it was just more than they wanted to keep up, especially when people started pointing out the huge disparity in KDF ships
Its kinda funny, the only 2 Excalibur starships I know or care about are the NCC 26517 and NCC 26517-A, one was an Ambasador class and the other was a Galaxy class. And as much as I liked the stories they were in they are 2 of the most fugly ships in Starfleet.
I very much love the Ambassador class, but don't want a t6, so few were made, it make little sense. T6 Kamarag please
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We cannot have an endgame Connie because it makes no sense and it's not allowed!
However, we offer you the following selections to play with, some of which are: Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, Wannabe-JJ Trek ships, ENT-era ships which predate the Constitution-class/TOS-era (hell, they predate the Federation era), and other non-faction ships.
It is TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY unreasonable for people to want to fly the class that was THE starship of the franchise for over 20 years before TNG and the Galaxy-class arrived.
We cannot have an endgame Connie because it makes no sense and it's not allowed!
However, we offer you the following selections to play with, some of which are: Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, Wannabe-JJ Trek ships, ENT-era ships which predate the Constitution-class/TOS-era, and other non-faction ships.
It is TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY unreasonable for people to want to fly the class that was THE starship of the franchise for over 20 years before TNG and the Galaxy-class arrived.
We cannot have an endgame Connie because it makes no sense and it's not allowed!
However, we offer you the following selections to play with, some of which are: Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, Wannabe-JJ Trek ships, ENT-era ships which predate the Constitution-class/TOS-era (hell, they predate the Federation era), and other non-faction ships.
It is TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY unreasonable for people to want to fly the class that was THE starship of the franchise for over 20 years before TNG and the Galaxy-class arrived.
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Ah, I see. That's definitely an interesting idea. That said, a 3 nacelled ship is not what I'm asking for. I wouldn't mind it being an option though. If they made 2 separate versions, like with the Gal and Gal-x, that would also allow them to make twice the money.
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But as far stats go I'd like to see it have turn rate of 11 or greater, standard cruiser shields, but weak hull.
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weapons 4/4 layout.
device slots; 3
Something like this.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I have never seen the Excalibur on any of Perpetual's concept art. Also, the Atari logo has nothing to do with Perpetual. When Atari bought Cryptic, they had already secured and started work on STO themselves. So no, I don't think the Excalibur has anything to do with Perpetual.
And the Excalibur is also contemporary with our gameplay, so, yeah.
Thanks for the bump! But seriously, if a dev confirms CBS said they can't make the Excalibur, that's fine. But they have never actually said that, so that is what I am asking.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
So TGN, a question...
Would you except an Excalibur as a T6 (if the Devs offered it) but did not offer it as Very Rare? I ask because I've been toddling about in a Tier 6 Resolute Class Advanced Heavy Cruiser and it sold as Rare.
I like it regardless, but I might have picked something else if I had known it wasn't VR.
Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you mean by "did not offer it as very rare"?
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Join Date: Sep 2008
That's because the Vesta is fleet level and, unless you've bought the fleet level Mogh, the Mogh is not fleet level.
The Vesta (and flagship varients, command ships and pilot ships) all come out of the C-store at flett level, so there are no fleet versions of them specifically, thats why they have VR admiralty cards, most event ships are also fleet level and VR cards while the majority of C-store ships are only Rare becuase tey have a fleet level version sold seperately.
In reality, maybe. I like it because the name is so nonsensical in part. Kind of like "Science Destroyer".
"Science Destroyer" = "Science ship that sells better than most science ships"
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Join Date: Sep 2008
as far as a T5-T5U-T6 connie? no just no
If this was a game based on TOS or the TMP era then yes but this is set farther in the trek timeline, the connie would be obscolete , sadly enough the connies by curent trek time would be a garbage scow, yes scottyi said it but its true now.
If there was a ship from TOS or TMP era that could be rebuilt as a T5-T5U or T6 its the miranda its been around forever and each time its thought she will be retired she is refitted with current tech and put back into service.
and id like to see a cryptic design based off the old miranda
You are confused. This thread is *not* asking for a T5/6 connie. As far as the Excalibur goes, it is a modern ship in STO's time period.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
exerpt from the T2 cruiser page -
The Excalibur class is well-suited for cargo or transport missions. Its expansive cargo holds make it indispensable to Starfleet as a vessel used to resupply planets, space stations, and other starships. The power systems make it possible to run industrial replicators indefinitely, making this class the ideal choice for evacuation and mercy missions.
The Excalibur is most prominently seen in advertisements, and at one point as the main website background, of Star Trek Online.
Not sure that classifys it as modern, I don't consider anything below T4 to be a modern but to each their own.
Actually, it has nothing to do with "to each his own". Cryptic's own lore that they wrote for the Excalibur said it was commissioned in 2391. That is on the very same page you referred to. I'm not sure if you simply missed it, or conveniently ignored it since it didn't agree with your point. Either way, it is what it is.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Link that info please that date doesn't appear on either of the T2 cruiser or cruiser refit pages on wiki that I saw.
Oh, I gotcha. We are looking at 2 different places:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Excalibur_class
FYI, all of that used to be on the actual Star Trek Online website when the game launched, so it was all written by Cryptic. They actually used to have a page for all of the ships in game, but eventually scrapped it all. I think it was just more than they wanted to keep up, especially when people started pointing out the huge disparity in KDF ships
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Join Date: Sep 2008
I very much love the Ambassador class, but don't want a t6, so few were made, it make little sense. T6 Kamarag please
We cannot have an endgame Connie because it makes no sense and it's not allowed!
However, we offer you the following selections to play with, some of which are: Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, Wannabe-JJ Trek ships, ENT-era ships which predate the Constitution-class/TOS-era (hell, they predate the Federation era), and other non-faction ships.
It is TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY unreasonable for people to want to fly the class that was THE starship of the franchise for over 20 years before TNG and the Galaxy-class arrived.
Darn, you had me for your first 2 sentences
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Join Date: Sep 2008