100 dollars = 10000 zen not counting bonus divide that by 275 and you get 36 point something. So basically 36 chances if you drop that kind of cash on it. What a RIP!
A Science Vessel with a 4/3 weapon layout? And someone calls this weak?
people...
Weaponslots are really usless for Sci....
No, they are absolutely not.
You can always try to bring your weapon power up to higher levels and then you deal extra weapon damage and all the science damage you did before. There are various powers, consoles and other abilities in the game that help buff your power levels so you could manage a high aux and a high weapon power.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
The way it reads, opening this Doff pack during the promotion period guarantees either 10 Lobi or the Krenim Dreadnaught. With which ratio, I do wonder? I'm sure 50/50 isn't happening.
Of course, there is the question of what 10 Lobi can get you in the Lobi Store vs. the Krenim Dreadnaught...
I'm sure others can quote the odds, but it's more heavily weighted towards the 10 Lobi. It's closer to having a Blue Moon month, like this past July.
100 dollars = 10000 zen (assuming you don't purchase from the ARC website to get a bonus) and if you divide that by 275 and you get 36.
If the odds of getting the Krenim Dreadnought are only 1 in 100 (possibly less), that means the average player would have to spend at least $300 to get this ship ... or get VERY lucky.
I was already planning to buy a bunch of duty officer packs and I was waiting for this event (I suspected it was coming). I'm not going to spend anywhere near $300 ... so I either get lucky and score a ship or I end up with a ton of doffs for my various characters.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Why in the hell did you put this ship in a Doff pack? It's damn near impossible to pick up and I don't have $500 just laying around for one ship. Further, what do you have against Science Captains? This is the first science ship released in a while now and it's unattainable. I don't need the 12+ Cruisers and Escorts you've been releasing. Thanks for nothing.
No they really arnt, the Promos have a lower chance than the lockboxes, they always have thats why the ships are so good from them.
The original promos were worse and much higher odds. Things like the Tuffli.
I'd be very surprised if the promos didn't have double the odds of lockboxes given that they are twice the price. I don't know that the ships are inherently "better". They seem to be versatile ships designed to be the ultimate at niche playstyles whereas lockbox ships are the ultimate at non-niche or at least exotic playstyles.
My interest in this one is largely my desire to have everything "temporal" I can get my hands on. I think you guys are overhyping it and there is no benefit for anyone in hyping this stuff up because it drives up price and scarcity. It doesn't benefit people playing one since they can't rebundle. It doesn't benefit people looking to buy one. And it doesn't benefit people selling one because, well... It's selling faster than most people can click and if you WERE selling one and HAD one that you wanted to try to build interest for, it'd be posted for a billion EC.
In short, it is in no one's interests to express (even deserved) awe for this ship. It would be in everyone's interests to downplay everything. For my money, I'm not going to call anything OP unless I have it in hand and am selling it for a high enough amount that it isn't moving on the exchange. Because if I am interested in buying it, if I already have one, or if I am interested in selling at the market rate, it's going to be in my interests to low ball my awe and wonder.
Everybody loses when you call something OP or say it's worth a huge sum... Unless you have one in hand and are having trouble selling it. That's the only good reason to build a frenzy of hype around something.
When somebody says, "OMG, what have you done? I wanted this so bad, this is OP, this is too hard to get", that accomplishes nothing aside from greasing wallets and printing Cryptic lots of money, probably well in excess of what they were even shooting for.
My attitude is that a product launch is a first date. Better to play it cool and not show too much interest.
Out of everything this that was done this has to be the one thing im seriously upset about
why did cryptic have to take the time ship and put it in a doff pack?
Myself and several other players thought that we would get an annorex ship at the end of the iconian war arc kinda like the ambassador class aswell as the obelisk carrier but no it gets boxed and we get fleeced.
Im very upset and dissapointed by this gesture of ill will towards the players of this game thank you cryptic for showing us how much you care...for our money just not us.
Out of everything this that was done this has to be the one thing im seriously upset about
why did cryptic have to take the time ship and put it in a doff pack?
Myself and several other players thought that we would get an annorex ship at the end of the iconian war arc kinda like the ambassador class aswell as the obelisk carrier but no it gets boxed and we get fleeced.
Im very upset and dissapointed by this gesture of ill will towards the players of this game thank you cryptic for showing us how much you care...for our money just not us.
Cryptic is a business and has to make money in order to keep the game running. If it doesnt make enough money, it has to close down the game.
This is a free to play game, you can play it for free, their revenue comes from stuff like this.
This is exactly like every other promotional ship they've done. It's nothing new, and its the best way to do it.
Well said repetitivepic and I support Cryptic with as much spare cash I can muster! Everyone should be supporting the game and not complaining about c-store items. If your not happy do not buy them, even better just log off the game and don't come back.
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people...
Weaponslots are really usless for Sci....
You can always try to bring your weapon power up to higher levels and then you deal extra weapon damage and all the science damage you did before. There are various powers, consoles and other abilities in the game that help buff your power levels so you could manage a high aux and a high weapon power.
*Edit Also is the ship account wide or just on the character that is lucky enough to get one?
I'm sure others can quote the odds, but it's more heavily weighted towards the 10 Lobi. It's closer to having a Blue Moon month, like this past July.
How about comparing it to winning the maximum prize in a lottery?
My character Tsin'xing
I would of easily paid 30-50$ for this ship but 300 is too much
100 dollars = 10000 zen (assuming you don't purchase from the ARC website to get a bonus) and if you divide that by 275 and you get 36.
If the odds of getting the Krenim Dreadnought are only 1 in 100 (possibly less), that means the average player would have to spend at least $300 to get this ship ... or get VERY lucky.
I was already planning to buy a bunch of duty officer packs and I was waiting for this event (I suspected it was coming). I'm not going to spend anywhere near $300 ... so I either get lucky and score a ship or I end up with a ton of doffs for my various characters.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Don't confuse lockbox and promo. Lockbox are 1/200. Promo are 1/100 to adjust for the higher price per chance.
Oh well. *sigh*
The original promos were worse and much higher odds. Things like the Tuffli.
I'd be very surprised if the promos didn't have double the odds of lockboxes given that they are twice the price. I don't know that the ships are inherently "better". They seem to be versatile ships designed to be the ultimate at niche playstyles whereas lockbox ships are the ultimate at non-niche or at least exotic playstyles.
My interest in this one is largely my desire to have everything "temporal" I can get my hands on. I think you guys are overhyping it and there is no benefit for anyone in hyping this stuff up because it drives up price and scarcity. It doesn't benefit people playing one since they can't rebundle. It doesn't benefit people looking to buy one. And it doesn't benefit people selling one because, well... It's selling faster than most people can click and if you WERE selling one and HAD one that you wanted to try to build interest for, it'd be posted for a billion EC.
In short, it is in no one's interests to express (even deserved) awe for this ship. It would be in everyone's interests to downplay everything. For my money, I'm not going to call anything OP unless I have it in hand and am selling it for a high enough amount that it isn't moving on the exchange. Because if I am interested in buying it, if I already have one, or if I am interested in selling at the market rate, it's going to be in my interests to low ball my awe and wonder.
Everybody loses when you call something OP or say it's worth a huge sum... Unless you have one in hand and are having trouble selling it. That's the only good reason to build a frenzy of hype around something.
When somebody says, "OMG, what have you done? I wanted this so bad, this is OP, this is too hard to get", that accomplishes nothing aside from greasing wallets and printing Cryptic lots of money, probably well in excess of what they were even shooting for.
My attitude is that a product launch is a first date. Better to play it cool and not show too much interest.
why did cryptic have to take the time ship and put it in a doff pack?
Myself and several other players thought that we would get an annorex ship at the end of the iconian war arc kinda like the ambassador class aswell as the obelisk carrier but no it gets boxed and we get fleeced.
Im very upset and dissapointed by this gesture of ill will towards the players of this game thank you cryptic for showing us how much you care...for our money just not us.
Well said repetitivepic and I support Cryptic with as much spare cash I can muster! Everyone should be supporting the game and not complaining about c-store items. If your not happy do not buy them, even better just log off the game and don't come back.