I'm thinking that this one is a bit different. It sounds like it actually gives you a second object that has the lobi/Annorax in it.
It sounds exactly like the JHAS and Bulwark promo packs that involved the Romulan Survivor DOFF packs. When you bought the thing from the C-store during the promotion, instead of getting a [Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack] item, you got a [Promotion! - Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack] item. When you opened that [Promotion! - Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack] (even after the promotion ended), you received a [Romulan Survivor Duty Officer Pack] plus either 10 lobi or a ship.
Close, I'm thinking the Promotion! boxes auto-open now.
Instead of this mewling whining, you guys should be celebrating the fact that Promo Madness Is Coming!
Use your brains people, it's that thing inside your head. You can get space rich from just this one event, and easily afford the omg science dreadnought omg
I must not be good with brains, because I don't understand how to afford the ship. It requires either 1) paying for it with EC (~300MM my guess) or 2) paying for it with ZEN and praying to RNGesus (~$275)
Option 2 requires lots of real cash, or lots of grinding to get the ZEN. Option 1 requires lots of EC either through grinding or a mix of capital/buylow/sellhigh trading between various items and currencies.
I don't see any way around paying a lot for the ship without high capital investment ($, Z, dilithium, or EC). Do you really think one could afford this ship with (say) 30MM EC? Even if you buy the tons of cheap items that will be flooding the exchange, they will only appreciate in value after the promo ends and supplies go back to normal. I am no Ferengi, but I don't see how to get space rich enough to afford the ship. Unless you are talking about striking it rich with someone who forgets to put an extra 0 on 10-stacks of items on the Exchange?
Ya know. A long term player said to me the other day, "you're not expecting the game itself to provide you with lots of EC are you"? If you want to be able to buy all the cool stuff, you've got to play the game to make the "cash". I've been at this less than 3 months and I've racked up 200m EC. I've probably spent 100m along the way as well. It's a matter of being "smart" to grind out the dil and Zen and, most importantly, to stockpile so you can be prepared for these sorts of events.
The other day repetitiveepic mentioned something in a chat room and I jumped on it. Made 50m in a couple days just from that alone. Could be more but my resources are still somewhat limited. Didn't know what I was doing for much of the Summer event but in the last 10 days of it or so I made 30m+. Could have been a lot more but I was burned out from it. The new Lockbox put another 30m or so in my bank. Plus I have some other things I do that gets me probably 5m-10m a day. So to make the EC, you have to put yourself in that mindset and then setup the infrastucture to be able to do it "easily", which does take some time and grinding to do.
No wonder the Manheim got fixed a few weeks back...
You didn't figure that? Wouldn't look too good if they put out another 500 million EC ship that constantly kept blowing itself up.
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We are running a promotion from 9AM PDT on August 13th to 10AM PDT on August 27th! for a limited time that will provide an additional bonus when opening a Delta Alliance Duty Officer Pack!
This isn't really true, though. You get the bonus lobi/ship when you open the [Promotion! - Delta Alliance Duty Officer Pack] wrapper item, not the actual doff pack item.
NOTE: Newly purchased Delta Alliance Duty Officer packs will only offer the chance to win the Krenim Annorax Science Dreadnought during this promotional event. Once this event ends, the packs will revert back to their previous state and no longer offer the Annorax.
This is such a weird and inaccurate way of saying that only the item listed for sale in the C-store is reverted back to the standard DOFF pack listing, rather than the promotion pack, but that nothing actually changes with the left over promo packs people still have.
It really seems like this is a weird copy/paste edit job of those old announcements that were made when promotional ships actually did drop from actual doff packs, instead of promo packs, and then mixed in with some fine print about promo packs. It's bizarre, really.
Any chance this announcement template will get a complete re-write to make it factually accurate?
If that pack has the Promotion Wrapper that wrapper stays with the pack until the end of time, so to speak. Again, another poorly worded announcement.
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'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The "Safe" (Fair, Honest, Morally Acceptable) way to offer ships like this would be to put them both in the C-Store and scambling boxes.
This would have the dual effect of producing income from people like me who don't use these boxes and bleeding off the exploit urge from those so inclined as they "win" a ship instead of buying it.
Yeah, at moments like this, I am glad I don't collect ships.
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Well, the Exchange has reacted quickly. The Temporal Destroyer went up about 15+ Million EC since last night. The Temporal Science Ship went through the roof. The two still available on the Exchange are 495 or 500 Million EC. Last night there were five copies there ranging from 279 - 300 Million. I was going to pick up one at 279 but hesitated. Today after the announcement by the time I checked the Exchange, there were three 298 M, 300 M, and 500 M. I managed to pick up the 298 M. The 300 M was either picked up or taken off and relisted at 495 M.
Don't you just love the Free Market.
Edit for update: Last night when I checked the Temporal Destroyer went up between 140 M to 240 M EC above the earlier 15 M spike. Three new Temporal Science Ships were added dropping the price to 450 M at the lowest.
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'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I have spent over $500 alone just trying to get ONE freaking premium ship from the lockboxes and in that $500 only got ONE when I didn't even want too because I was trying to get 200 Lobi Crystals. So if it took me well over $500 in f**king keys, imagine how much I would need to get this bloody dread.
How in f**k sake can you add the ONLY DAMN SCIENCE SHIP IN AGES in a God damn gamble pack? F**k this s**t, add it to the freaking C-Store as a standard ship, not a gamble bulls**t. Keep your stupid ship, I know when to draw the line, lol!
I have spent over $500 alone just trying to get ONE freaking premium ship from the lockboxes and in that $500 only got ONE when I didn't even want too because I was trying to get 200 Lobi Crystals. So if it took me well over $500 in f**king keys, imagine how much I would need to get this bloody dread.
How in f**k sake can you add the ONLY DAMN SCIENCE SHIP IN AGES in a God damn gamble pack? F**k this s**t, add it to the freaking C-Store as a standard ship, not a gamble bulls**t. Keep your stupid ship, I know when to draw the line, lol!
$500 = approx 444 keys. 444 keys * say 3.5m EC = 1.554 billion EC. How many premium ships could you have bought with that? Course you don't have to do keys either. Sometimes (not since the new lockbox came out though), FSMs are a better choice. And there are other things that can sometimes get you more EC/zen.
Bear in mind, the fact that it is called a "Science Dreadnought" doesn't mean it's going to be a Sci vessel. With the Chroniton Lance and the hangar bay and everything else, I'd be surprised if it had all of the other Sci vessel characteristics. We'll have to wait and see what the stats will be. That blog will probably hit tomorrow.
Well, the Exchange has reacted quickly. The Temporal Destroyer went up about 15+ Million EC since last night. The Temporal Science Ship went through the roof. The two still available on the Exchange are 495 or 500 Million EC. Last night there were five copies there ranging from 279 - 300 Million. I was going to pick up one at 279 but hesitated. Today after the announcement by the time I checked the Exchange, there were three 298 M, 300 M, and 500 M. I managed to pick up the 298 M. The 300 M was wither picked up or taken off and relisted at 495 M.
Don't you just love the Free Market.
Whoa, to think that 2 month ago i got the Mobius at 90 M EC and the Wells at 215 M last month. It seems that i choose the right time to farm the EC for them, otherwise it would have been impossible for me to have them right now.
But seriously people are crazy to put such high price for them.
Ya know. A long term player said to me the other day, "you're not expecting the game itself to provide you with lots of EC are you"? If you want to be able to buy all the cool stuff, you've got to play the game to make the "cash". I've been at this less than 3 months and I've racked up 200m EC.
I appreciate the words of encouragement, but that wasn't my point. I know how to make money in the game - my bank had about 700MM at its height.
My little inquisition was that @repetitiveepic said "You can get space rich from just this one event, and easily afford the omg science dreadnought omg " and I question that claim. The ship stats may end up to be junk, so its price won't be that high. But assuming it costs at least 300MM like other promotional ships, I don't see how this one event could provide anyone with all the EC they need to buy it outright - unless you already had tons of EC to begin with. Every ship that even hits the exchange generates $250-$300 in revenue and will be priced accordingly.
I agree that you can't expect the game to give you everything; you will have to spend either game time playing and earning the currency or pay with $$$s and convert it to EC. Even if you just hang out in from of the exchange consoles and just buy-sell at the right time and price, I doubt you will have enough to buy the ship.
I am also disappointed they would put this ship obtainable as a doff-package for a limited time. I hate it when they do this... I guess I will NOT be getting this ship, no chance I will get any. =/ Don't have the EC and certainly do not have enough Zen to buy any of those packages. Still struggling with getting important rep items,..
Rule of thumb. . . . Only open lock boxes and promo packs for lobi. And only lobi. I repeat again, only open them for lobi. If you get lucky and get a ship, then kudos. But, you are seriously wasting resources opening these items "trying" to get a ship. Much easier to buy the promos, sit on them, then sell them for ec. Then go buy the ship.
And the Doffs in that pack have been less than spectacular as well. The three Starship Traits you can get from that pack have been a very low chance lot as well - going for minimums of 79 M (Point Defense Protocols), 106 M (Scramble Fighters), or 299 M (Attack Pattern Delta Prime). Count on Gama Quadrant Commodities or Fleet Provisions.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
"Chance to win a Krenim Annorax Science Dreadnought!" - STO
Well, at least, we all know the cryptic team still has a sense of humor...:) I'll save my money for the slot machines at the local casino...much better odds of winning. However, I'm sure I'll be seeing chat spam from the EC peddlers offering this ship for beau coup dinero within the month. One wonders if this (from a Player's perspective) flawed system is working as intended.
The way it reads, opening this Doff pack during the promotion period guarantees either 10 Lobi or the Krenim Dreadnaught. With which ratio, I do wonder? I'm sure 50/50 isn't happening.
Of course, there is the question of what 10 Lobi can get you in the Lobi Store vs. the Krenim Dreadnaught...
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Meh.. At least I'm happy I didn't open a delta doff pack yet, I was planning to buy one or two just to give some species diversity to my doff roster. If by any chance hell freezes over and I get the ship against all probabilities, you'll notice my smile from here to the gamma quadrant.
Meh..
At least I'm happy I didn't open a delta doff pack yet, I was planning to buy one or two just to give some species diversity to my doff roster. If by any chance hell freezes over and I get the ship against all probabilities, you'll notice my smile from here to the gamma quadrant.
Ones purchased outside of the Event do not count, those sold during have a 'Promotion' wrapper around it. Open the Promotion you get either 10 Lobi, or the Krenim Science Dreadnought (very very very - did I day very - unlikely), and the Doff Pack, which is unopened. Those special Promotion Doff Packs will retain their 'specialness' after the Event and if opened see previous.
Any packs bought from the C-Store before, or after the Event will NOT have that wrapper and therefore will not be eligible to possibly win the super duper grand prize.
I cannot begin to speculate on the Exchange price for this Promotion Pack when it hits. In the past the Promotion Packs used to award the Shesar or JHSS or JHAS) usually settled in at 9 - 12 Million E (though now they are running between 12 and 24 Million EC). But in that case the Romulan Survivor Doff Pack sold for around 3.5 Million EC and still do. This time the base Delta Alliance Doff Pack has been going for 11.5 - 15 Million EC. The remote chance for one of the three Starship Traits has caused a higher base price.
Also lately, they had been using the R&D Packs for the special event 'distributions' so you will find most of the Promotion Packs on the Exchange to be of this type, though there are some of the Romulan Survivor Doff Packs posted. This Promotion is a throwback in its use of a Doff Pack, but then again, it is one of the newest things released, so needs some hawking, I guess.
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'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
> @ltminns said: > miguelrodriguezc wrote: » > > Meh.. > At least I'm happy I didn't open a delta doff pack yet, I was planning to buy one or two just to give some species diversity to my doff roster. If by any chance hell freezes over and I get the ship against all probabilities, you'll notice my smile from here to the gamma quadrant. > > > > Ones purchased outside of the Event do not count I believe those sold during have a 'Promotion' wrapper around it. Open the Promotion you get either 10 Lobi, or the Krenim Science Dreadnought (very very very - did I day very - unlikely), and the Doff Pack, which is unopened. Those special Promotion Doff Packs will retain their 'specialness' after the Event and if opened see previous. > > Any packs bought from the C-Store now before, or after the Event will NOT have that wrapper and therefore will not be eligible to possibly win the super duper grand prize. >
I know. I probably mixed up the verbs in what I wrote before. I haven't bought the packs yet, I still have my zen. When the promo starts, I'll buy them, open them and be mad at myself for hoping I could be the one lucky guy which won the jackpot on the first dabo wheel spin. Anyways, I can't be mad at Cryptic, I realize online games run on servers and servers cost money to run.
PS: New guy in the block here, can anybody tell me why I can't get the quoted text right? I'd assume is just a matter of hitting the "Quote" link, but no dice (and it was wrong even if I did not trim the text)
How in f**k sake can you add the ONLY DAMN SCIENCE SHIP IN AGES in a God damn gamble pack? F**k this s**t, add it to the freaking C-Store as a standard ship, not a gamble bulls**t. Keep your stupid ship, I know when to draw the line, lol!
The fact that they finally designed another science ship and stuck it in the worst possible place pretty much sucks.
I really hope the next lockbox is a Temporal Lockbox or a Mirror Lockbox and is science focused. All this cruiser/escort ship spam has gotten really annoying.
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Heh this made me laugh.
Well no surprise here. I think 99% of us called it. Maybe the computer will have GlaDOS' voice. I would so buy it if it did.
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The other day repetitiveepic mentioned something in a chat room and I jumped on it. Made 50m in a couple days just from that alone. Could be more but my resources are still somewhat limited. Didn't know what I was doing for much of the Summer event but in the last 10 days of it or so I made 30m+. Could have been a lot more but I was burned out from it. The new Lockbox put another 30m or so in my bank. Plus I have some other things I do that gets me probably 5m-10m a day. So to make the EC, you have to put yourself in that mindset and then setup the infrastucture to be able to do it "easily", which does take some time and grinding to do.
Equipping 5 universal consoles at a time, even just those 5, is probably not the best use of those slots.
Not that it wouldn't be fun to try...
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
If that pack has the Promotion Wrapper that wrapper stays with the pack until the end of time, so to speak. Again, another poorly worded announcement.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This would have the dual effect of producing income from people like me who don't use these boxes and bleeding off the exploit urge from those so inclined as they "win" a ship instead of buying it.
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Edit for update: Last night when I checked the Temporal Destroyer went up between 140 M to 240 M EC above the earlier 15 M spike. Three new Temporal Science Ships were added dropping the price to 450 M at the lowest.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Lolz !
But MY response to the topic at hand:
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BUT, NOT SURPRISED.
That would seriously be less absurd than giving a ship weapon of mass destruction like this to players.
At least one person watched Star Trek Voyager.
How in f**k sake can you add the ONLY DAMN SCIENCE SHIP IN AGES in a God damn gamble pack? F**k this s**t, add it to the freaking C-Store as a standard ship, not a gamble bulls**t. Keep your stupid ship, I know when to draw the line, lol!
$500 = approx 444 keys. 444 keys * say 3.5m EC = 1.554 billion EC. How many premium ships could you have bought with that? Course you don't have to do keys either. Sometimes (not since the new lockbox came out though), FSMs are a better choice. And there are other things that can sometimes get you more EC/zen.
Whoa, to think that 2 month ago i got the Mobius at 90 M EC and the Wells at 215 M last month. It seems that i choose the right time to farm the EC for them, otherwise it would have been impossible for me to have them right now.
But seriously people are crazy to put such high price for them.
I appreciate the words of encouragement, but that wasn't my point. I know how to make money in the game - my bank had about 700MM at its height.
My little inquisition was that @repetitiveepic said "You can get space rich from just this one event, and easily afford the omg science dreadnought omg " and I question that claim. The ship stats may end up to be junk, so its price won't be that high. But assuming it costs at least 300MM like other promotional ships, I don't see how this one event could provide anyone with all the EC they need to buy it outright - unless you already had tons of EC to begin with. Every ship that even hits the exchange generates $250-$300 in revenue and will be priced accordingly.
I agree that you can't expect the game to give you everything; you will have to spend either game time playing and earning the currency or pay with $$$s and convert it to EC. Even if you just hang out in from of the exchange consoles and just buy-sell at the right time and price, I doubt you will have enough to buy the ship.
Unless, of course, you already had a ton of EC in the first place.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Well, at least, we all know the cryptic team still has a sense of humor...:) I'll save my money for the slot machines at the local casino...much better odds of winning. However, I'm sure I'll be seeing chat spam from the EC peddlers offering this ship for beau coup dinero within the month. One wonders if this (from a Player's perspective) flawed system is working as intended.
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Of course, there is the question of what 10 Lobi can get you in the Lobi Store vs. the Krenim Dreadnaught...
At least I'm happy I didn't open a delta doff pack yet, I was planning to buy one or two just to give some species diversity to my doff roster. If by any chance hell freezes over and I get the ship against all probabilities, you'll notice my smile from here to the gamma quadrant.
Any packs bought from the C-Store before, or after the Event will NOT have that wrapper and therefore will not be eligible to possibly win the super duper grand prize.
I cannot begin to speculate on the Exchange price for this Promotion Pack when it hits. In the past the Promotion Packs used to award the Shesar or JHSS or JHAS) usually settled in at 9 - 12 Million E (though now they are running between 12 and 24 Million EC). But in that case the Romulan Survivor Doff Pack sold for around 3.5 Million EC and still do. This time the base Delta Alliance Doff Pack has been going for 11.5 - 15 Million EC. The remote chance for one of the three Starship Traits has caused a higher base price.
Also lately, they had been using the R&D Packs for the special event 'distributions' so you will find most of the Promotion Packs on the Exchange to be of this type, though there are some of the Romulan Survivor Doff Packs posted. This Promotion is a throwback in its use of a Doff Pack, but then again, it is one of the newest things released, so needs some hawking, I guess.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
> miguelrodriguezc wrote: »
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> Meh..
> At least I'm happy I didn't open a delta doff pack yet, I was planning to buy one or two just to give some species diversity to my doff roster. If by any chance hell freezes over and I get the ship against all probabilities, you'll notice my smile from here to the gamma quadrant.
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> Ones purchased outside of the Event do not count I believe those sold during have a 'Promotion' wrapper around it. Open the Promotion you get either 10 Lobi, or the Krenim Science Dreadnought (very very very - did I day very - unlikely), and the Doff Pack, which is unopened. Those special Promotion Doff Packs will retain their 'specialness' after the Event and if opened see previous.
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I know. I probably mixed up the verbs in what I wrote before. I haven't bought the packs yet, I still have my zen. When the promo starts, I'll buy them, open them and be mad at myself for hoping I could be the one lucky guy which won the jackpot on the first dabo wheel spin.
Anyways, I can't be mad at Cryptic, I realize online games run on servers and servers cost money to run.
PS: New guy in the block here, can anybody tell me why I can't get the quoted text right? I'd assume is just a matter of hitting the "Quote" link, but no dice (and it was wrong even if I did not trim the text)
The fact that they finally designed another science ship and stuck it in the worst possible place pretty much sucks.
I really hope the next lockbox is a Temporal Lockbox or a Mirror Lockbox and is science focused. All this cruiser/escort ship spam has gotten really annoying.