If the disco balls are causing you problems

millimidget · February 2015

Go and purchase a Subspace Party Nullifier, available from Greelan on Drozana Station, or Woadie in Quark's Bar on DS9, for the affordable price of only 100 GPL.

Yes, this information should be stickied somewhere or included with an already existing sticky. Yes, the functionality of this should be standard. Yes, it will eat up an inventory slot. However, that is the price Cryptic demands you pay to make yourself immune to the disco balls.

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alexmakepeace · February 2015

I wish they weren't bound to character. I picked one up and thought to myself "I should get some extras to give out on Vulcan," but I couldn't.

abystander0 · February 2015

alexmakepeace wrote: »

I wish they weren't bound to character. I picked one up and thought to myself "I should get some extras to give out on Vulcan," but I couldn't.

Why? Everyone that wants one has the ability to get one themselves. It's not like they have to run a reputation project or craft one.

millimidget · February 2015

steampunker7 wrote: »

One good thing is that it works even if you put it in your bank.

Is this true, or just an attempt to troll?

If true, thank you for the added tip.

If troll, well played.

abystander0 wrote: »

Why? Everyone that wants one has the ability to get one themselves. It's not like they have to run a reputation project or craft one.

Because some people are happy to spend the extra miniscule amount of GPL and the little bit of time it takes to pick these up, to support people they play with, I guess.

noobspawn · February 2015

It sounds and looks more like

"let's dance around, antagonize, and point fingers and laugh while people get anrgy"

It's really straight forward.

But hey, trolls are people too... :rolleyes:

kozar2 · February 2015

It is true it can be in your inventory. It's a must purchase.

antoniosalieri · February 2015

There are also those that choose to remember a Public figure by celebrating there life and PUBLIC legacy.

Morning is something for families and friends.

There is nothing for us to morn in the passing of Leonard Nimoy. I celebrate his life and the accomplishments he has made. His acting touched many, his art many more, his kindness in a world lacking enough of it was inspirational to countless more.

I choose to mark the passing of Mr. Nimoy this afternoon with party poppers and Disco balls. I get the feeling from reading his words and hearing his thoughts... that he would have been a man that would have far more appreciated a public party on his passing then a public morning.

Condolences to his family and all those he counted as personal friends. For the rest of us that only knew him by his public works, and where touched by his wonderful photographic art, and poetry. Let us celebrate the life that was, go boldly Mr. Nimoy may your next life be as fruitful.

Now please stop with the trolling about party busting junk... and going on about respect, and understand people celebrating the life of a respected public figure is not an insult to anyone. Quite the opposite.

js26568 · February 2015

antoniosalieri wrote: »

There are also those that choose to remember a Public figure by celebrating there life and PUBLIC legacy.

Morning is something for families and friends.

There is nothing for us to morn in the passing of Leonard Nimoy. I celebrate his life and the accomplishments he has made. His acting touched many, his art many more, his kindness in a world lacking enough of it was inspirational to countless more.

I choose to mark the passing of Mr. Nimoy this afternoon with party poppers and Disco balls. I get the feeling from reading his words and hearing his thoughts... that he would have been a man that would have far more appreciated a public party on his passing then a public morning.

Condolences to his family and all those he counted as personal friends. For the rest of us that only knew him by his public works, and where touched by his wonderful photographic art work. Let us celebrate the life that was, go boldly Mr. Nimoy may your next life be as fruitful.

Now please stop with the trolling about party busting junk... and going on how you don't respect others showing there love for his life.

Agreed. Grief & mourning are private things, not appropriate for a computer game. Celebrating someone's life is a different matter.

Also - if you hate Subspace Party Amplifiers get yourself a Nullifier. If you choose not to get a Nullifier then it's your own fault. Stop whining about them, folks.

millimidget · February 2015

js26568 wrote: »

Also - if you hate Subspace Party Amplifiers get yourself a Nullifier. If you choose not to get a Nullifier then it's your own fault. Stop whining about them, folks.

Today is literally the first I heard of these things.

I was referred to the sticky Frequently Created Threads, which covers Cryptic's stance on the existence of amplifiers, but does not even mention the nullifiers, let alone elaborate on how to get them.

Hence why I created this thread. Thankfully, the one bit of information I had on them, not even a name but that they could be bought from some vendor on Drozana, was enough for me to find them. With a name for the item in hand I could provide links to the item and to the vendors who sell them.

In short, the existence of the nullifiers is insufficiently documented. Yes, they should be more readily attainable than the amplifier. I suggest making the nullifiers available through the replicator.

js26568 · February 2015

millimidget wrote: »

Today is literally the first I heard of these things.

I was referred to the sticky Frequently Created Threads, which covers Cryptic's stance on the existence of amplifiers, but does not even mention the nullifiers, let alone elaborate on how to get them.

Hence why I created this thread. Thankfully, the one bit of information I had on them, not even a name but that they could be bought from some vendor on Drozana, was enough for me to find them. With a name for the item in hand I could provide links to the item and to the vendors who sell them.

In short, the existence of the nullifiers is insufficiently documented. Yes, they should be more readily attainable than the amplifier. I suggest making the nullifiers available through the replicator.

They're equally attainable for an equal price.

That's fair.

millimidget · February 2015

js26568 wrote: »

They're equally attainable for an equal price.

But their function isn't equal, which makes it unfair.

The option to opt-out shouldn't be as demanding as the method to cause involuntary actions in other players.

Rather than trying to spread the word about the nullifiers, just make them readily available to anyone by making them a replicated item that any player can produce at will.

neoakiraii · February 2015

If you're having dance problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but disco ain't one

noshuffle · February 2015

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

The anti-disco-ball crowd has just as many trolls as the pro-party amp crowd. Or did you miss the infamous old thread where someone from the anti-disco ball crowd tried arguing that seeing his character dance was as emotionally traumatic as a woman being drug into an alley and sexually assaulted.

No one on either side has any credibility. Disco ball threads are nothing more than a troll-off where trolls show up to engage in ***sing contests.

I personally has nothing against those disco-balls, but what happened today on Vulcan is a total disrespect to people who want to join together and repectfully want to remember a person that has some meaning to them. It's a sad sad sad day today, to see that after ages of evolution and education, humanity hasn't yet found some dignity.

warpangel · February 2015

Disco balls don't cause "involuntary actions." It's an idle animation, it doesn't affect the game in any way.

cidjack · February 2015

millimidget wrote: »

But their function isn't equal, which makes it unfair.

The option to opt-out shouldn't be as demanding as the method to cause involuntary actions in other players.

Rather than trying to spread the word about the nullifiers, just make them readily available to anyone by making them a replicated item that any player can produce at will.

Your seriously asking for nullifiers to be free? it is only 100 GPL. That is half a Xmas item!

kozar2 · February 2015

So can the Dentist's explain why if they want a raging disco party (and aren't just trolling) they don't arrange for it in one particular instance instead of popping around to random ones popping the balls? Ya, I thought not.

millimidget · February 2015

neoakiraii wrote: »

I got 99 problems but disco ain't one

That's because disco is dead everywhere but in STO (and SWTOR).

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noobspawn · February 2015

there are many great places for them, used a few myself, examples

#1 club/hangout, more then a welcome site

#2 before stf starts, exchange = silly

#3 at a (what some are quite literally consider partaking in) a funeral, if someone stumbled in drunk blowing something off and acting like the village idiot at such a place for someone I knew, I guarantee ya, that guy would hit the floor faster then he could catch his breath.

That's WHY people feel that way about it right now

millimidget · February 2015

cidjack wrote: »

Your seriously asking for nullifiers to be free? it is only 100 GPL. That is half a Xmas item!

Actually, I'm asking that they be made available through the replicator, or failing that, through vendors conveniently located in every social zone, such as the standard consumable vendors found in many places throughout the game.

What's the EC equivalent of 100 GPL, based on the exchange rate available through Dabo? They could attach that as the EC cost for one.

taylor1701d · February 2015

Best quote I saw all day on Vulcan,

Mr.Spock would say, getting angry at the disco ball crowd would be highly illogical.

js26568 · February 2015

noobspawn wrote: »

there are many great places for them, used a few myself, examples

#1 club/hangout, more then a welcome site

#2 before stf starts, exchange = silly

#3 at a (what some are quite literally consider partaking in) a funeral, if someone stumbled in drunk blowing something off and acting like the village idiot at such a place for someone I knew, I guarantee ya, that guy would hit the floor faster then he could catch his breath.

That's WHY people feel that way about it right now

Oh come on now... a funeral? Really? You lose all your credibility when you come out with stuff like that. A gathering of characters in a PC game is not and will never be a funeral.

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noobspawn · February 2015

js26568 wrote: »

Oh come on now... a funeral? Really? You lose all your credibility when you come out with stuff like that. A gathering of characters in a PC game is not and will never be a funeral.

no, I DO agree about %90, but some of the others do not.

Anything that stirs people up is probably not a good idea, enough said.

starswordc · February 2015

nabreeki wrote: »

This wasn't an official funeral in a church, place of worship, funeral home, etc. There was no one stumbling in drunk. It was an impromptu event, spur of the moment, reflecting the unfortunate events of the day (in a game, no less).

I don't know how you do funerals, but I have been in plenty of ceremonies where life is celebrated, not cried over. I was simply reflecting my own cultural experiences.

So your "cultural experiences" are that the Westboro Baptist Church has the right idea of how to do a funeral? Because that's really the best comparison. Other people are remembering a life. You and your mob of sh*theads are f*cking with them for laughs.

millimidget · February 2015

nabreeki wrote: »

I feel like we were all able to join in a celebration of life today, and that has done the memory of Leonard Nimoy justice. I don't think he would have wanted people to stand around and cry over him; he was a lively man with a zest for life and a generous sense of humor.

For once in a long very long time, I sensed the STO playerbase as a community, as it was fun to laugh and share our memories of the man himself and his long life, career, and influence on each of us.

I didn't even attend (I'd be likely to join you in trolling other players), but I understand where some players are coming from when they say that everyone grieves in their own manner.

Even though I'm inclined to agree with you, I can't support trolling other players who aren't grieving in the same way you are, no matter how stuffy and uptight they seem to be.

This is quite unlike the WoW anecdote, which involved the public honoring of a player.

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

You never got shot with the Dance Gun in CoH.

I never played CoH, so no.

Can we add to the list of MMOs where disco lives on?

Much like 12/21/12 just marked the end of any relevance of the Mayan empire (effectively their own form of apocalypse), it seems like MMOs may be the last memorial to disco, and once MMO's move past it, disco will no longer be officially dead, but outright extinct.

cidjack · February 2015

starswordc wrote: »

So your "cultural experiences" are that the Westboro Baptist Church has the right idea of how to do a funeral? Because that's really the best comparison. Other people are remembering a life. You and your mob of sh*theads are f*cking with them for laughs.

Please explain to me how the game is the same as real life? The only funeral that will have the most emotional toll with be the one that Leonard Nimoy will be in attendance. I would not be popping Disco balls at his real funeral, but a bunch of players on a map in a circle saying they haven't stopped crying, had to leave work early b/c they couldn't take the news and my personal favorite I saw, They are going to BURY their copy of WOK in their back yard so they can visit Mr. Spock when they feel down.

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starswordc · February 2015

And yes, the Dentists are in direct violation of game rules, just like they were when they leapt to the defense of that twerp who was spamming fleet and challenge invites. Arc Games Terms of Service, Section 15: User Conduct:

PWE wrote:

15. User Conduct
15.1 You must observe these Terms, all Rules of Conduct, all applicable laws and all basic rules of etiquette and common courtesy when using the Service. Any conduct that violates the law in an offline, real world community is also a violation of these terms. We will not tolerate any illegal or offensive conduct.

15.2 Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 16, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

f. “stalk,” threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;

h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;

i. engage in, encourage, or promote any illegal activity, or any activity that violates these Terms or the Rules of Conduct;

n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.

Any questions?

nabreeki wrote: »

Westboro Church protests funerals with signs disparaging sexual orientation. That is not even close to celebrating the life of a man who was a major influence on many people.

I am not originally from America, and when I go home, when people die, after a brief period of morning, we (the people directly affected by death), buy candy to give out to others in celebration of life, then we have a big dinner/feast with a celebration to the person.

Celebrating life is not even close to the Westboro church. Like always, your questionable moral grandstanding is hyperbolic and completely off target.

Is it? Because you seem to have the exact same level of respect for other people's cultural traditions as they do. You're not earning yourself any points here.

millimidget · February 2015

starswordc wrote: »

So your "cultural experiences" are that the Westboro Baptist Church has the right idea of how to do a funeral?

You're just going to confuse them with a statement like that. They know nothing about it. It's just something they've heard about and cite as defense for some trolling.

starswordc wrote: »

Any questions?

Just one. Is Cryptic even aware of those? Or is it the kind of document they only turn to to find something they can use as an excuse for banning an "exploiter?"

If the disco balls are causing you problems

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