I didn't design the Balls believe it or not. I would say around 95% of them launched today on Vulcan where launched over the fountine in a place where no one at all was forced to dance.
The point is there where people that couldn't accept that many of us see Mr. Nimoys passing as a time to reflect and Celebrate, the impact he has had on all of us. We don't see it as a time for us to shed a ton of tears. I celebrated and still celebrate his passing. Seems to me the man created a lot of good karma in the last 83 years, I am sure he will continue to enlighten and spread joy in the next life.
That so many Fans can't understand and respect that point of view. Choosing instead to create silly threads about disco balls, and spend there time PMing fellow fans paying tribute with vile hate filled rants and threats does sadden me.
Now... I'm going to go watch 3 Men and a Baby, and remember with laughter and joy a respected public figure Leonard Simon Nimoy. My love and sympathy to his family.
I didn't design the Balls believe it or not. I would say around 95% of them launched today on Vulcan where launched over the fountine in a place where no one at all was forced to dance.
You're stretching your logic; the very opposite of Occam's razor.
If you wanted to celebrate Nimoy privately, there's /e dance.
Wanting to intrude upon others? That's the Subspace Party Amplifier.
After seeing how the dentists acted at vulcan this morning id rather the disco balls be removed i know cryptic meant them to be fun .
but these trolls used them to mar a momment of respect and remberance to someone who has meant alot to the fans the franchise and the entire star trek community.
As for them personally ive began a lengthy process of putting each one on my ignore list i know ive been guilty of trolling myself but theres a line you dont cross...and they crossed it and went from being just annoying trolls to out and up jerks.
anyways cryptic either remove them from the game or give us an option via our ingame settings to turn off their dancing effects.
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Switching zones ? What would the point of that been... so I can hear some moron scream in zone... "The Dental" guys are in Zone X now. As they did all afternoon.
What?! And that is some how worse than having a disco ball and music where it isn't wanted for those people? This item is seen as a trolling device whether you like it or not.
I'm sorry its not we that are in the wrong on this one... it is the people that choose to make a point of it and Demand I morn as they do.
What?!! What a silly, idiotic thing to say. They don't demand anything, but when you act like a troll and throw a disco ball up, an item seen as a trolling tool, then you are forcing it upon them,, whether they like it or not. If you really wanted to hear that music again (what, for the 100th time?) then you could have moved away from them. But no, you went to their event, an event they weren't using disco balls on, and forced yours upon them.
I swapped zone once... cause someone insisted on standing behind me and PMing Nasty things to me for 20 min cause I set a Ball off over the fountine none stop for one hour in remembrance... until I ignored him and swapped zones. (they where free to leave at any time there was 30 or so zones.
But couldn't that also be turned around? You went to their zone (they were probably there first, standing around as part of the event, unless you somehow were standing there and then next minute a crowd appeared around you?), and even though you knew there were people there that didn't want your disco ball there, you carried on, knowing it was antagonizing them, and putting your DB up repeatedly for 1 hour! That's trolling.
Your point is silly cause it doesn't work the way you insist. People are shuffled into zones when they beam down... if a zone is full or close to you can't swap to it.
No, your point is stupid, and I really don't know how you are not seeing it. To make it worse you come out with some very amusing justifications for what you did. I know exactly how instances work, and still, that doesn't stop you from moving to a slightly different area, but I guess you and your disco ball just wanted to be center of attention and drop it right amongst the focal point of the crowd...
You know very well that the DB is used as a trolling device, how could you not see that a lot of people at this event would see it that way, are you really that naive?
And I'm sorry, but after having to reply to this laughable attempt of an excuse from you, I don't really wanna reply to you again.
I didn't design the Balls believe it or not. I would say around 95% of them launched today on Vulcan where launched over the fountine in a place where no one at all was forced to dance.
But they were, and also the somber atmosphere was probably ruined (for some people) by the music and flashing lights
.
That so many Fans can't understand and respect that point of view. Choosing instead to create silly threads about disco balls, and spend there time PMing fellow fans paying tribute with vile hate filled rants and threats does sadden me.
"So many fans", maybe you should think about that a bit more, so many people didn't like it, so ya' know, maybe this time, you might be in the wrong?
You really do come out with some stupid things lol
I understand about the nullifier as ive one myself im asking for a more permemnant solution to the issue if we had a setting we could just click to off instead of an item it would be a more long term solution.
Indeed trolls always find ways to show thier lack of intelligence and complete contempt for any cordial and civilised mannerisms between people.
But it is my experiance that the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them in the first place and if we had the option to turn the effects off then we would defeat this particular troll tool they are using.
I understand about the nullifier as ive one myself im asking for a more permemnant solution to the issue if we had a setting we could just click to off instead of an item it would be a more long term solution.
FWIW - I imagine that if we were to track it, there are more Subspace Party Nullifiers bought today, than the last three months combined.
FWIW - I imagine that if we were to track it, there are more Subspace Party Nullifiers bought today, than the last three months combined.
And that, we have Dental to applaud for.
On that sir we both agree thier actions have caused a reaction and the reaction of the civil player is to do what is necassarry to ensure that those individuals who show so much contempt for civility will not win.
I Implore new players who may be reading this to go get a subspace party nullifier if you do not wish to be trolled with disco balls by these contemptuous individuals.
Read the entirety instead of picking the first sentence to cry about.
What I said is very true. I highly doubt anyone on Vulcan today was an actual friend or family member of Mr. Nimoy... if they where they had places to be other then a video game.
We are fans that know him though his work. We are not morning the loss of a father or a husband or a friend. My thoughts go out to those people... however I am not one of them. I don't morn his death, I celebrate as I have no doubt he would have wanted me to do, his life and the quality legacy of work he leaves behind. For myself and all to enjoy for years to come. His work will live on, and I salute the man who created it as he is on to I hope better things.
Is it heartless to say I believe heavily morning a celeb is misplaced... well if it is so be it. Mr. Nimoy lived a life worthy of praise, and as he has now left us I choose to do just that. Marvel at the body of work he leaves behind.
Mr. Nimoy I believe to be the most talented actor to have graced a trek role, and I believe he was a great artist with a real message everyone can respect. I speak of his photographic work, more then his trek role. I appreciate that he came to terms with the Spock character and like many I loved his transformation from the "I am not Spock" to the "I am Spock" phases of his professional life. Many people have stories of his kindness and good nature when dealing with his fans, and he went out of his way to include them and make them feel special. For instance he fought to have the Trek Reboot open in Vulcan, AB for its Canadian Premiere. Don't mistake the nature of a Celebration of Life. Sad to have lost him, glad to have had him, Choose to celebrate his passing. Its only logical.
There are also those that choose to remember a Public figure by celebrating there life and PUBLIC legacy.
Morning is something for families and friends.
There is nothing for us to morn in the passing of Leonard Nimoy. I celebrate his life and the accomplishments he has made. His acting touched many, his art many more, his kindness in a world lacking enough of it was inspirational to countless more.
I choose to mark the passing of Mr. Nimoy this afternoon with party poppers and Disco balls. I get the feeling from reading his words and hearing his thoughts... that he would have been a man that would have far more appreciated a public party on his passing then a public morning.
Condolences to his family and all those he counted as personal friends. For the rest of us that only knew him by his public works, and where touched by his wonderful photographic art, and poetry. Let us celebrate the life that was, go boldly Mr. Nimoy may your next life be as fruitful.
Now please stop with the trolling about party busting junk... and going on about respect, and understand people celebrating the life of a respected public figure is not an insult to anyone. Quite the opposite.
Who are you to tell someone they can not mourn the loss of a human being because they arent related or on a first name basis?
When William Robins passed I mourned because he had a substantial influence over my childhood. I can easily see Nimoy having that same effect on those who came up with TOS.
But couldn't that also be turned around? You went to their zone (they were probably there first, standing around as part of the event, unless you somehow were standing there and then next minute a crowd appeared around you?), and even though you knew there were people there that didn't want your disco ball there, you carried on, knowing it was antagonizing them, and putting your DB up repeatedly for 1 hour! That's trolling.
No I was in that zone long before they where, I was one of the first on Vulcan this morning. The ball was going long before I noticed my new friend.
However just to sum up what you are saying ... I should have swapped to another zone and continued there.
I was clear about why I was doing it... and was engaging people in local chat and remembering a great man. Anytime the troll behind me wanted to leave he was welcome to it. I had good coversations in PMS with many others in my zone and shared some great Nimoy stories. Was a nice tribute... and I was glad to have made many new trek friends.
However you can continue to believe that anyone that popped a popper or a ball ect are evil trolls bent on disrespecting Mr. Leonard Simon Nimoy.
Who are you to tell someone they can not mourn the loss of a human being because they arent related or on a first name basis?
When William Robins passed I mourned because he had a substantial influence over my childhood. I can easily see Nimoy having that same effect on those who came up with TOS.
I am not saying you should not morn anyone you like. Really I shed a few tears this morning myself. However in the Case of Mr Nimoy the man was sick in his 80s and expected himself to be leaving us soon. His time came. My condolences to the people that did in fact know him on a first name basis. I hope they are able to grieve privately without intrusion from his fans.
For the rest of us we should be celebrating the body of work he leaves behind. He left our world after a long well lived life. His work speaks for itself and though that he will live for as long as we cherish his work.
I made my views known as it seems many don't understand how someone could celebrate on the occasion of a death. I make my views known because trolling is not something that was happening today on Vulcan. (well there where the few cases, such as the dude trying to stand on my heals for awhile there)
Yes, why do you think that making false comparisons helps whatever point you're trying to make? WBC do not celebrate, they protest. There are very clear differences here, and backtracking or changing course doesn't undo your previous fallacy.
When people ask you to stop and you continue to behave in the manner you were. Its harrassment. Theres no grey area in that. You could of stepped away from the group and continued to pop the Disco Balls and celebrated his life your way without interfering with others. But you didnt, you stuck around for hours and harrassed players that continously asked you to stop.
Youre not an idiot, this concept is not lost on you. You know exactly why what you did was wrong and the only reason youre here defending your behavior is because you get off on the attention. This thread is an extension of the hours you spent today griefing others.
"So many fans", maybe you should think about that a bit more, so many people didn't like it, so ya' know, maybe this time, you might be in the wrong?
You really do come out with some stupid things lol
I also got just as many PMs from people that agreed with me.
At least your having a laugh anyway... I doubt Mr. Nimoy would want us all broken up at the time of his passing.
I spent the night watching 3 men and a baby which I hadn't seen in years.
Its a shame he didn't direct more like it... I am sure he didn't have a personal hand in all the jokes or anything. However the pace and some of the shots in that movie are genius. He had a great comedic side that I wish he had explored more often.
I am not saying you should not morn anyone you like. Really I shed a few tears this morning myself. However in the Case of Mr Nimoy the man was sick in his 80s and expected himself to be leaving us soon. His time came. My condolences to the people that did in fact know him on a first name basis. I hope they are able to grieve privately without intrusion from his fans.
For the rest of us we should be celebrating the body of work he leaves behind. He left our world after a long well lived life. His work speaks for itself and though that he will live for as long as we cherish his work.
I made my views known as it seems many don't understand how someone could celebrate on the occasion of a death. I make my views known because trolling is not something that was happening today on Vulcan. (well there where the few cases, such as the dude trying to stand on my heals for awhile there)
Im confused. Have you forgotten what you wrote in the post I quoted?
Heres a reminder.
Morning is something for families and friends.
There is nothing for us to morn in the passing of Leonard Nimoy.
So are you going to continue to stick to the claim that you arent trying to tell others how cope with the loss of someone?
Im confused. Have you forgotten what you wrote in the post I quoted?
Heres a reminder.
So are you going to continue to stick to the claim that you aren't trying to tell others how cope with the loss of someone?
You can be confused all you like. I'll take my leave from here. If you feel I told you what you should or shouldn't do you go right ahead and feel that way.
Your free to shed just as many tears as you wish for anyone you wish my friend go to it. I have made my thinking clear on the subject. If you don't know someone it seems illogical to be overly emotional at the time of there passing. In the case of Mr. Nimoy he hasn't left the world in a tragic way, he was not taken from the world before his time. He lived a long life and left a great body of work. Enjoy it as he would have wanted.
I have said my piece, I Celebrate the unique and varied carer of a man who's body of work I respect. You can choose to praise his life as I do, or mark the event in anyway you wish. I have posted in this thread to correct the notion that not holding our heads low and standing still is disrespectful in someway. That is the oddest line of thinking I have heard in a long time.
So can the Dentist's explain why if they want a raging disco party (and aren't just trolling) they don't arrange for it in one particular instance instead of popping around to random ones popping the balls? Ya, I thought not.
Over 30 Dentist responses and still no answer. For those who weren't sure to their trollish nature there you go.
We were attempting to give Spock a life celebration, something found within the Trek universe itself, but I guess some people don't appreciate alternative expressions of mourning.
So, we're supposed to appreciate alternative expressions of mourning, but it's okay for you jokers to ruin other people's more typical expressions of mourning?
"There will never be enough blood to wash away my need for vengeance! A single world...I could destroy a million worlds and it would not be enough! Your existence is an insult to the memory of my people! I will continue my fight, even if I must fight alone!"
Sorry, but it's a stupid question. There were many disco balls popped over many instances, and a lot of them not by Dentals. There were only six or seven of us at the memorial at any given time, and 1000 players present. If you think ALL of that was us, then you are free to dwell in your own delusion.
I want to add that our response to the memorial is purely within the realms of canon, as noted with this clip from episode 5, episode 24 of TNG, "The Next Phase."
We were attempting to give Spock a life celebration, something found within the Trek universe itself, but I guess some people don't appreciate alternative expressions of mourning.
Celebrate it all you like, but don't try to force other people to celebrate it the way you want to. Popping the disco balls is an attempt to get other people acting out of their will, people have been telling you they don't appreciate it, and yet you still do it, it is now intentionally disrespectful and griefing those players.
My fleet was standing there and were were trying to take a group picture when I saw you pop in (with friends) and light the whole thing up with disco balls, thanks for ruining our gathering.
The Toothbrush Troll boys were out in full force at Vulcan
hundreds of people saw them and saw there trolling chat directed at the rest of the players
The players who were there have no doubt in their minds how disruptfull these scumbags are
We know who they are we don't have to name them
Their scum and they proved it to hundreds of you today....and anyone who sides with them might as well join there fleet and color their skin troll green
Dental...................Nuff said
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And that's somehow not what Disco balls do?
I didn't design the Balls believe it or not. I would say around 95% of them launched today on Vulcan where launched over the fountine in a place where no one at all was forced to dance.
The point is there where people that couldn't accept that many of us see Mr. Nimoys passing as a time to reflect and Celebrate, the impact he has had on all of us. We don't see it as a time for us to shed a ton of tears. I celebrated and still celebrate his passing. Seems to me the man created a lot of good karma in the last 83 years, I am sure he will continue to enlighten and spread joy in the next life.
That so many Fans can't understand and respect that point of view. Choosing instead to create silly threads about disco balls, and spend there time PMing fellow fans paying tribute with vile hate filled rants and threats does sadden me.
Now... I'm going to go watch 3 Men and a Baby, and remember with laughter and joy a respected public figure Leonard Simon Nimoy. My love and sympathy to his family.
You're stretching your logic; the very opposite of Occam's razor.
If you wanted to celebrate Nimoy privately, there's /e dance.
Wanting to intrude upon others? That's the Subspace Party Amplifier.
Just admit that you're a hypocrite and move on.
EDIT: Or not. That's also allowed.
but these trolls used them to mar a momment of respect and remberance to someone who has meant alot to the fans the franchise and the entire star trek community.
As for them personally ive began a lengthy process of putting each one on my ignore list i know ive been guilty of trolling myself but theres a line you dont cross...and they crossed it and went from being just annoying trolls to out and up jerks.
anyways cryptic either remove them from the game or give us an option via our ingame settings to turn off their dancing effects.
Ty in advance for any help if given
LLAP _\\//
A dedicated troll will always find a way.
But read the OP, there is an easy way to opt out: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Subspace_Party_Nullifier
What?! And that is some how worse than having a disco ball and music where it isn't wanted for those people? This item is seen as a trolling device whether you like it or not.
What?!! What a silly, idiotic thing to say. They don't demand anything, but when you act like a troll and throw a disco ball up, an item seen as a trolling tool, then you are forcing it upon them,, whether they like it or not. If you really wanted to hear that music again (what, for the 100th time?) then you could have moved away from them. But no, you went to their event, an event they weren't using disco balls on, and forced yours upon them.
But couldn't that also be turned around? You went to their zone (they were probably there first, standing around as part of the event, unless you somehow were standing there and then next minute a crowd appeared around you?), and even though you knew there were people there that didn't want your disco ball there, you carried on, knowing it was antagonizing them, and putting your DB up repeatedly for 1 hour! That's trolling.
No, your point is stupid, and I really don't know how you are not seeing it. To make it worse you come out with some very amusing justifications for what you did. I know exactly how instances work, and still, that doesn't stop you from moving to a slightly different area, but I guess you and your disco ball just wanted to be center of attention and drop it right amongst the focal point of the crowd...
You know very well that the DB is used as a trolling device, how could you not see that a lot of people at this event would see it that way, are you really that naive?
And I'm sorry, but after having to reply to this laughable attempt of an excuse from you, I don't really wanna reply to you again.
But they were, and also the somber atmosphere was probably ruined (for some people) by the music and flashing lights
.
"So many fans", maybe you should think about that a bit more, so many people didn't like it, so ya' know, maybe this time, you might be in the wrong?
You really do come out with some stupid things lol
I understand about the nullifier as ive one myself im asking for a more permemnant solution to the issue if we had a setting we could just click to off instead of an item it would be a more long term solution.
Indeed trolls always find ways to show thier lack of intelligence and complete contempt for any cordial and civilised mannerisms between people.
But it is my experiance that the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them in the first place and if we had the option to turn the effects off then we would defeat this particular troll tool they are using.
LLAP _\\//
FWIW - I imagine that if we were to track it, there are more Subspace Party Nullifiers bought today, than the last three months combined.
And that, we have Dental to applaud for.
On that sir we both agree thier actions have caused a reaction and the reaction of the civil player is to do what is necassarry to ensure that those individuals who show so much contempt for civility will not win.
I Implore new players who may be reading this to go get a subspace party nullifier if you do not wish to be trolled with disco balls by these contemptuous individuals.
LLAP _\\//
Read the entirety instead of picking the first sentence to cry about.
What I said is very true. I highly doubt anyone on Vulcan today was an actual friend or family member of Mr. Nimoy... if they where they had places to be other then a video game.
We are fans that know him though his work. We are not morning the loss of a father or a husband or a friend. My thoughts go out to those people... however I am not one of them. I don't morn his death, I celebrate as I have no doubt he would have wanted me to do, his life and the quality legacy of work he leaves behind. For myself and all to enjoy for years to come. His work will live on, and I salute the man who created it as he is on to I hope better things.
Is it heartless to say I believe heavily morning a celeb is misplaced... well if it is so be it. Mr. Nimoy lived a life worthy of praise, and as he has now left us I choose to do just that. Marvel at the body of work he leaves behind.
Mr. Nimoy I believe to be the most talented actor to have graced a trek role, and I believe he was a great artist with a real message everyone can respect. I speak of his photographic work, more then his trek role. I appreciate that he came to terms with the Spock character and like many I loved his transformation from the "I am not Spock" to the "I am Spock" phases of his professional life. Many people have stories of his kindness and good nature when dealing with his fans, and he went out of his way to include them and make them feel special. For instance he fought to have the Trek Reboot open in Vulcan, AB for its Canadian Premiere. Don't mistake the nature of a Celebration of Life. Sad to have lost him, glad to have had him, Choose to celebrate his passing. Its only logical.
Who are you to tell someone they can not mourn the loss of a human being because they arent related or on a first name basis?
When William Robins passed I mourned because he had a substantial influence over my childhood. I can easily see Nimoy having that same effect on those who came up with TOS.
No I was in that zone long before they where, I was one of the first on Vulcan this morning. The ball was going long before I noticed my new friend.
However just to sum up what you are saying ... I should have swapped to another zone and continued there.
I was clear about why I was doing it... and was engaging people in local chat and remembering a great man. Anytime the troll behind me wanted to leave he was welcome to it. I had good coversations in PMS with many others in my zone and shared some great Nimoy stories. Was a nice tribute... and I was glad to have made many new trek friends.
However you can continue to believe that anyone that popped a popper or a ball ect are evil trolls bent on disrespecting Mr. Leonard Simon Nimoy.
I am not saying you should not morn anyone you like. Really I shed a few tears this morning myself. However in the Case of Mr Nimoy the man was sick in his 80s and expected himself to be leaving us soon. His time came. My condolences to the people that did in fact know him on a first name basis. I hope they are able to grieve privately without intrusion from his fans.
For the rest of us we should be celebrating the body of work he leaves behind. He left our world after a long well lived life. His work speaks for itself and though that he will live for as long as we cherish his work.
I made my views known as it seems many don't understand how someone could celebrate on the occasion of a death. I make my views known because trolling is not something that was happening today on Vulcan. (well there where the few cases, such as the dude trying to stand on my heals for awhile there)
When people ask you to stop and you continue to behave in the manner you were. Its harrassment. Theres no grey area in that. You could of stepped away from the group and continued to pop the Disco Balls and celebrated his life your way without interfering with others. But you didnt, you stuck around for hours and harrassed players that continously asked you to stop.
Youre not an idiot, this concept is not lost on you. You know exactly why what you did was wrong and the only reason youre here defending your behavior is because you get off on the attention. This thread is an extension of the hours you spent today griefing others.
I also got just as many PMs from people that agreed with me.
At least your having a laugh anyway... I doubt Mr. Nimoy would want us all broken up at the time of his passing.
I spent the night watching 3 men and a baby which I hadn't seen in years.
Its a shame he didn't direct more like it... I am sure he didn't have a personal hand in all the jokes or anything. However the pace and some of the shots in that movie are genius. He had a great comedic side that I wish he had explored more often.
Well I'll consider the source and simply send you a. o7
See ya in the next thread.
Im confused. Have you forgotten what you wrote in the post I quoted?
Heres a reminder.
So are you going to continue to stick to the claim that you arent trying to tell others how cope with the loss of someone?
You can be confused all you like. I'll take my leave from here. If you feel I told you what you should or shouldn't do you go right ahead and feel that way.
Your free to shed just as many tears as you wish for anyone you wish my friend go to it. I have made my thinking clear on the subject. If you don't know someone it seems illogical to be overly emotional at the time of there passing. In the case of Mr. Nimoy he hasn't left the world in a tragic way, he was not taken from the world before his time. He lived a long life and left a great body of work. Enjoy it as he would have wanted.
I have said my piece, I Celebrate the unique and varied carer of a man who's body of work I respect. You can choose to praise his life as I do, or mark the event in anyway you wish. I have posted in this thread to correct the notion that not holding our heads low and standing still is disrespectful in someway. That is the oddest line of thinking I have heard in a long time.
Over 30 Dentist responses and still no answer. For those who weren't sure to their trollish nature there you go.
So, we're supposed to appreciate alternative expressions of mourning, but it's okay for you jokers to ruin other people's more typical expressions of mourning?
Celebrate it all you like, but don't try to force other people to celebrate it the way you want to. Popping the disco balls is an attempt to get other people acting out of their will, people have been telling you they don't appreciate it, and yet you still do it, it is now intentionally disrespectful and griefing those players.
My fleet was standing there and were were trying to take a group picture when I saw you pop in (with friends) and light the whole thing up with disco balls, thanks for ruining our gathering.
hundreds of people saw them and saw there trolling chat directed at the rest of the players
The players who were there have no doubt in their minds how disruptfull these scumbags are
We know who they are we don't have to name them
Their scum and they proved it to hundreds of you today....and anyone who sides with them might as well join there fleet and color their skin troll green
Dental...................Nuff said
#1 Troll fleet in STO
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse