I have 60 million skill points. (1 character and playing release and never respected).
Does this mean I will be level 60 right away?
you sure you're not confusing skill points with expertise?
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I have 60 million skill points. (1 character and playing release and never respected).
Does this mean I will be level 60 right away?
You likely have 60 million expertise, not skill points.
In the current state of the game you earn skill points + expertise until you reach level 50, then they are converted into expertise (basically, doubled). Once DR is Live you will start earning skill points again.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
Better be? The reason is its the next rank in the IP. Read Admiral, Vice Admira, Admiral, Fleet Admiral.
Thanks.
I'm struggling to understand why Dahar Master is a military rank when according to canon its not lol.
Dahar Master in military terms is closer to something like medal of valor recipient which very few are awarded this and can only be obtained by going to the extreme for your country. So in the case of the Klingon Empire so technically not many would be awarded with this title. Although I could request that maybe with the difficulty in content for example if the STO team were to make some kind of elite difficulty ground content that could potentially Achieve this rank I could agree with that. But just becoming level 60 and then you are Dahar Master just does not fly imo.
Being able to pick my title and pips does me no good when it still states my actual game rank up in the corner of the screen, and NPCs keep calling me Admiral. Selectable display ranks would be a most welcome adjustment.
Interesting stuff otherwise. I look forward to hearing more about the specializations.
I think there are a large number of players who really don't care one way or the other.
Ah, here I was worried you'd found a loophole or something. :P
Yeah, since we all hit Level 50, all additional skill points were converted into bridge officer skill points (later renamed Expertise) instead.
So we'll all be on equal footing when DR drops (barring any skill point bonuses we've stockpiled).
yeah, giving advantages out the box, people will scream bloody murder. *ducks, flying object! looks around flying object incoming, ducks!* the typical type of flame wars would pop off almost immediately. so yeah, everyone at square one, game crashes likely at first and maybe server queues :P.
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Another important change to the leveling system will come after reaching level 60. You will continue to earn Skill Points as if you are still leveling up, and each time you reach enough points to level up to what would be the next rank, you will earn an additional Specialization Point. This will give players the ability to continue earning points until you max out your Specialization Trees. In the current game, once you reach max level, Skill Points are converted into Expertise, but with Delta Rising Skill Points will continue to be useful indefinitely.
OK, but what happens when you max out the specialization trees?
This change will reduce the amount of Expertise earned at max level, and we have planned accordingly to address this. We are adding additional Expertise rewards to the game in order to keep the earning rate similar to what players experience today at level 50.
It is mostly small fleets composed of new characters that have problems gaining enough expertise, but thank you for keeping this in mind.
You are assuming they cant make T6 and Mk 14 unlock at level 50.
Finallly, a Blog with information in it!
It would be poor marketing to make T6 available or accessible at VA, therefore it is unlikely that T6 and Mk 13/14 gear will be immediately available after X2 is activated.
What happens to those who have their Bridge Officer and Duty Officer rosters full? S.O.L in regards to the new level up rewards?
It should take a while to max out. Hopefully, we will have more specialization trees added before that happens. In the event you earn everything, the points will roll over to something else - sort of like how we roll over to Expertise now, but something better - we are not prepared to say yet.
It would be poor marketing to make T6 available or accessible at VA, therefore it is unlikely that T6 and Mk 13/14 gear will be immediately available after X2 is activated.
Well, actually, T5/Mk XII is Level 40/45 onwards - VA doesn't actually have a dedicated tier or Mk level currently, so T6 and Mk XIII/XIV will fit.
Thank you so much to everyone that put this info together, and for posting it for us to read. Now that we are getting real blogs, I think it can start bringing more hope back to those who were getting discouraged, and giving up. Thank you for this.
While this looks interesting, I hope that they don't wait till a lot of players have maxed it out, then come back and nerf it for new PVP players. The rep system nerf could have been handled much more respectfully to those who invested into it.
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It should take a while to max out. Hopefully, we will have more specialization trees added before that happens. In the event you earn everything, the points will roll over to something else - sort of like how we roll over to Expertise now, but something better - we are not prepared to say yet.
Eternal grind ftw? :rolleyes: What happened to rebalancing the game and closing the powergap between fresh max level players and vets?
It should take a while to max out. Hopefully, we will have more specialization trees added before that happens. In the event you earn everything, the points will roll over to something else - sort of like how we roll over to Expertise now, but something better - we are not prepared to say yet.
Geko, when should we see info on T6 ships? (You had to see this coming )
P.S. Out of curiosity, what is your favorite part of X2?
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Better be? The reason is its the next rank in the IP. Read Admiral, Vice Admira, Admiral, Fleet Admiral.
Thanks.
Don't ya just luv it when even the Dev's "Quote" the wrong post? <chuckle>
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I'm struggling to understand why Dahar Master is a military rank when according to canon its not lol.
Dahar Master in military terms is closer to something like medal of valor recipient which very few are awarded this and can only be obtained by going to the extreme for your country. So in the case of the Klingon Empire so technically not many would be awarded with this title. Although I could request that maybe with the difficulty in content for example if the STO team were to make some kind of elite difficulty ground content that could potentially Achieve this rank I could agree with that. But just becoming level 60 and then you are Dahar Master just does not fly imo.
Think about everything your KDF character has accomplished, as an individual...you're not just another soldier.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
Can we expect this to be the final level cap increase of the game or at least there will be no more ranks past Fleet Admiral? Rather be called Fleet Admiral Mk 40 than Supreme Poobah of the Milky Way Galaxy.
Also, what is the requirements for getting the Admiral and Fleet Admiral titles? Is it level 60 for Admiral and maxing out the specialization trees for Fleet Admiral?
They will likely do the same with the Reputation traits. You can only have 5 passives and 5 abilities active at the same time while there is probably 20 passives and 20 abilities available.
Dont know why you would expect that. Im sure we will raise the cap again in the future, but that is probably quite a while away.
I'm struggling to understand why Dahar Master is a military rank when according to canon its not lol.
Dahar Master in military terms is closer to something like medal of valor recipient which very few are awarded this and can only be obtained by going to the extreme for your country. So in the case of the Klingon Empire so technically not many would be awarded with this title. Although I could request that maybe with the difficulty in content for example if the STO team were to make some kind of elite difficulty ground content that could potentially Achieve this rank I could agree with that. But just becoming level 60 and then you are Dahar Master just does not fly imo.
You're forgetting that each INDIVIDUAL player in the game is the "HERO".
Technically, YOU are the only one achieving that title.
One has to use an inordinate amount of "IMAGINATION" (and a whole hell of an amount of near-sightedness) to see this though.
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Can we expect this to be the final level cap increase of the game or at least there will be no more ranks past Fleet Admiral? Rather be called Fleet Admiral Mk 40 than Supreme Poobah of the Milky Way Galaxy.
Also, what is the requirements for getting the Admiral and Fleet Admiral titles? Is it level 60 for Admiral and maxing out the specialization trees for Fleet Admiral?
They will likely do the same with the Reputation traits. You can only have 5 passives and 5 abilities active at the same time while there is probably 20 passives and 20 abilities available.
your on the right track, but not exactly. Hold tight. We will have full details on the Specialization trees soon.
Good blog post. I'm guessing that level 55 will be Admiral/General, and level 60 will be Fleet Admiral/Dahar Master?
If that's the case, can we tentatively agree that Delta Rising will be the final level cap raise, with any future expansions/content to work with some kind of alternate advancement mechanic?
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i maybe confusing skill points with exp. i dont really pay much attention beyond the number i have.
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You likely have 60 million expertise, not skill points.
In the current state of the game you earn skill points + expertise until you reach level 50, then they are converted into expertise (basically, doubled). Once DR is Live you will start earning skill points again.
That's how I'm reading it.
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Bah! Figures. Thx
I think there are a large number of players who really don't care one way or the other.
Ah, here I was worried you'd found a loophole or something. :P
Yeah, since we all hit Level 50, all additional skill points were converted into bridge officer skill points (later renamed Expertise) instead.
So we'll all be on equal footing when DR drops (barring any skill point bonuses we've stockpiled).
I'm struggling to understand why Dahar Master is a military rank when according to canon its not lol.
Dahar Master in military terms is closer to something like medal of valor recipient which very few are awarded this and can only be obtained by going to the extreme for your country. So in the case of the Klingon Empire so technically not many would be awarded with this title. Although I could request that maybe with the difficulty in content for example if the STO team were to make some kind of elite difficulty ground content that could potentially Achieve this rank I could agree with that. But just becoming level 60 and then you are Dahar Master just does not fly imo.
Seconded.
Heartily.
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yeah, giving advantages out the box, people will scream bloody murder. *ducks, flying object! looks around flying object incoming, ducks!* the typical type of flame wars would pop off almost immediately. so yeah, everyone at square one, game crashes likely at first and maybe server queues :P.
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OK, but what happens when you max out the specialization trees?
It is mostly small fleets composed of new characters that have problems gaining enough expertise, but thank you for keeping this in mind.
It would be poor marketing to make T6 available or accessible at VA, therefore it is unlikely that T6 and Mk 13/14 gear will be immediately available after X2 is activated.
It should take a while to max out. Hopefully, we will have more specialization trees added before that happens. In the event you earn everything, the points will roll over to something else - sort of like how we roll over to Expertise now, but something better - we are not prepared to say yet.
Well, actually, T5/Mk XII is Level 40/45 onwards - VA doesn't actually have a dedicated tier or Mk level currently, so T6 and Mk XIII/XIV will fit.
While this looks interesting, I hope that they don't wait till a lot of players have maxed it out, then come back and nerf it for new PVP players. The rep system nerf could have been handled much more respectfully to those who invested into it.
thats funny because rolling through the exchange, i put in search criteria, i always pull up vice admiral and i always see XII gear show up.
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Geko, when should we see info on T6 ships? (You had to see this coming
P.S. Out of curiosity, what is your favorite part of X2?
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
They'll "plant" a new "Tree"
My guess... +1.
Don't ya just luv it when even the Dev's "Quote" the wrong post? <chuckle>
:cool:
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The idea seems perfectly sound to me.
Earn experience as now, but post 50, put that xp towards these new specialisation points.
I appreciate the details on what those specialisations actually mean are wip, so fair enough.
To be fair, I rather like how the two systems, pre and post 50, are radically different.
And i particulary like how the later system is open ended.
Think about everything your KDF character has accomplished, as an individual...you're not just another soldier.
This is not any different than a level 50 dominating a level 40. The more time you spend on your character, the better it gets.
Dont know why you would expect that. Im sure we will raise the cap again in the future, but that is probably quite a while away.
Level 55 Admiral.
Level 60 Fleet Admiral.
You're forgetting that each INDIVIDUAL player in the game is the "HERO".
Technically, YOU are the only one achieving that title.
One has to use an inordinate amount of "IMAGINATION" (and a whole hell of an amount of near-sightedness) to see this though.
:cool:
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your on the right track, but not exactly. Hold tight. We will have full details on the Specialization trees soon.
If that's the case, can we tentatively agree that Delta Rising will be the final level cap raise, with any future expansions/content to work with some kind of alternate advancement mechanic?
Your queues wont put lvl 40 and lvl 50 together to fight each other
Will they put mature lvl 60 and new lvl 60 in the same room?
i already asked that, it seems to of been missed.
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