You could do a turn-in type of project where if you were more adamant about the stats than the cloak you could trade your fleet Defiant for the new fleet Pat. Folks who bought the c-store defiant only did it for the cloak, but you could still give them something equivalent.
Possibly, but isn't the Fleet Patrol the flex escort now, and the Fleet Escort the Engi leaning one? Again, that balance already woven into the Fed Ship line. You'd start having to shuffle all the Blue escorts around.
And this thread is why the KDF can't have nice things... or things at all actually.
Its ridge envy, pure and simple. The average fed cant stand not being the top of the Targ pile in all things so they must connive and debate their way into convincing themselves that they are poorly designed as a faction with subpar choices in anything that doesnt fdraw the envy of others while pratically broadcasting their greatness for all tonsee.
Its really kinda sad if you think about it. So many feds have died to the attacks of KDF vessels that they have a neurosis about it and still blaim the cloak as the OP difference maker.
Kinda makes cannonical sense if you think on it. They where the last of the star fairing important races. I mean vulcans, romulans and even Klingons where already in space by the time they stumbled onto warp drive. I'd feel like the child at the grown up table too, crying for everything I thought could make me sit taller and see everyone on eye level.
Balance smalance, its envy of an ability they think makes the difference in a fight.
Seriuosly ask any competant Defiant pilot if that Battle cloaking BoP had a chance in a sustained dog fight. Afterall there is a reason why BoPs do hit-n-run attacks while a Defiant can loiter in combat almost at will, and it aint because the BoP can cut and run.
Pity them because we evidently spanked to hard in the old days and such a beating makes for poor sports and childish outlooks.
Sometimes I think Roach is a real Klingun...:eek:
Envy? Lol...maybe...for example when I see the Thissler videos...no Defiant pilot can do that and guess why?:P
Well, that's nover-tuned BoP there, pretty different from a Defiant. I tend to not worry about those 'elite' pvper ego flicks, it's cut-and-pasting their best moments, often of the oft-repeated decloak alpha. Viewing those get's kinda boring after a while.
Yup. Saw this coming. Friggin s**tstorm every time. STO Forums Rule #1: never ask for a Federation Battle Cloak. That simple. You already get plenty of goodies to elicit our Klingon tears, so stop whining that your Federation starships, which initially had a lend-leased Romulan cloak, don't get to disapoof in the middle of combat. If battle cloak means that much to you, go play a real Romulan or a BoP.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "The Borg - party-poopers of the galaxy"~ The Doctor
People keep claiming 'feddy whine and tears', but it's a legitimate concern that will likely come to a head of the Mogh releases with the stats that were glimpsed when the Fleet version was viewable in game. The new generation of Fleet consoles have already smashed those molds into rubble; which makes the cloak console a tentative selection. If the old 'balance system' is thrown out of the window with the next generation of ships, then it's time to look back and reexamine everything.
STO Forums Rule #1: never ask for a Federation Battle Cloak.
Better worded as never ask for Starfleet improvements in Federation forums, without expecting the angry Klinkuns barging in and waving their torches and bat'leths around. :rolleyes:
Its ridge envy, pure and simple. The average fed cant stand not being the top of the Targ pile in all things so they must connive and debate their way into convincing themselves that they are poorly designed as a faction with subpar choices in anything that doesnt fdraw the envy of others while pratically broadcasting their greatness for all tonsee.
Its really kinda sad if you think about it. So many feds have died to the attacks of KDF vessels that they have a neurosis about it and still blaim the cloak as the OP difference maker.
Kinda makes cannonical sense if you think on it. They where the last of the star fairing important races. I mean vulcans, romulans and even Klingons where already in space by the time they stumbled onto warp drive. I'd feel like the child at the grown up table too, crying for everything I thought could make me sit taller and see everyone on eye level.
Balance smalance, its envy of an ability they think makes the difference in a fight.
Seriuosly ask any competant Defiant pilot if that Battle cloaking BoP had a chance in a sustained dog fight. Afterall there is a reason why BoPs do hit-n-run attacks while a Defiant can loiter in combat almost at will, and it aint because the BoP can cut and run.
Pity them because we evidently spanked to hard in the old days and such a beating makes for poor sports and childish outlooks.
I prefer to call it Jonathan Archer syndrome since he pretty much embodies this attitude.
With the new klink battlecruiser being a clone of the avenger with a different console, I think that it's time to rework the fed cloak. I'm not asking for a battle cloak. I'm just asking for it to either become a DEVICE like it says, or at least give me more bang for my buck. If I have to lose a console slot to equip the cloak, at least make it a unique kind of cloak. Perhaps making it drain less shield power, or none at all? I don't know.
EDIT: Also, if Cryptic follows suit and creates a romulan version (like I'm sure they will), then it will have a battle cloak... making it the "best" version. I don't really like three copies of a ship, and having one of them being better than the rest.
Sardak (Science Officer): Captain of a 23k DPS R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel, R.R.W. Vathos Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
With the new klink battlecruiser being a clone of the avenger with a different console, I think that it's time to rework the fed cloak. I'm not asking for a battle cloak. I'm just asking for it to either become a DEVICE like it says, or at least give me more bang for my buck. If I have to lose a console slot to equip the cloak, at least make it a unique kind of cloak. Perhaps making it drain less shield power, or none at all? I don't know.
EDIT: Also, if Cryptic follows suit and creates a romulan version (like I'm sure they will), then it will have a battle cloak... making it the "best" version. I don't really like three copies of a ship, and having one of them being better than the rest.
Yeah, that would be a cheesefest right there. And while I like cheese, I don't like it THAT much, LOL. I prefer mozarella anyway, hehe.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
People keep claiming 'feddy whine and tears', but it's a legitimate concern that will likely come to a head of the Mogh releases with the stats that were glimpsed when the Fleet version was viewable in game. The new generation of Fleet consoles have already smashed those molds into rubble; which makes the cloak console a tentative selection. If the old 'balance system' is thrown out of the window with the next generation of ships, then it's time to look back and reexamine everything.
Better worded as never ask for Starfleet improvements in Federation forums, without expecting the angry Klinkuns barging in and waving their torches and bat'leths around. :rolleyes:
Lol, and it's no wonder us Feds can't have nice things......the KDFers whine to try and get them taken away or nerfed. because their precious little BoP's can't stand against any one of our ships, flown by a halfway competent player. :cool::D:cool:
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Lol, and it's no wonder us Feds can't have nice things......the KDFers whine to try and get them taken away or nerfed. because their precious little BoP's can't stand against any one of our ships, flown by a halfway competent player. :cool::D:cool:
Eh...true, but also true if you ever talk about any ship vs any ship.
I've seen a Galaxy mop the floor with a BoP. I've seen many a ship pop the 'almighty' Bug. I have watched a 'supposedly' good Scimitar get demolished by a freebie Advanced Escort, and so on.
Everyone dies at some point dies in a PvP environment.
I don't say this as a jab at you, I just see similar statements all the time like 'well I can kill X ship in my Y ship, it's not that big a deal'. Just feels boring to me anymore. Obviously someone can kill someone else depending on a great many things.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
With the new klink battlecruiser being a clone of the avenger with a different console, I think that it's time to rework the fed cloak. I'm not asking for a battle cloak. I'm just asking for it to either become a DEVICE like it says, or at least give me more bang for my buck. If I have to lose a console slot to equip the cloak, at least make it a unique kind of cloak. Perhaps making it drain less shield power, or none at all? I don't know.
It seems that kdf ship will have a defence system console while avenger has a ofensive console (VATA) so there are differences between the 2 .
More lets see the ship's stats
( It wouldn't be a new thing that kdf ship will have lower mods than fed counterpart .)
And lastly giving the same stat ship wouldn't bother me ,actually having a cloak as a console+higher turn rate,shield mod,inertia are a better deal than integrated cloak and poor shield mod,poor turn rate,high inertia (Btw : The best raptor in game is strangely again Fleet defiant with cloak console)
"There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Lol, and it's no wonder us Feds can't have nice things......the KDFers whine to try and get them taken away or nerfed. because their precious little BoP's can't stand against any one of our ships, flown by a halfway competent player. :cool::D:cool:
Not sure if this is trolling or ignorance..
Kdf goodies have been stolen by the feds for a long time now so don't play this stupid card.
All of our purchased goodies have basically been given to the feds while all of your rubbish has been given to the KDF.
Don't play the ignorance or troll card on this one.
Eh...true, but also true if you ever talk about any ship vs any ship.
I've seen a Galaxy mop the floor with a BoP. I've seen many a ship pop the 'almighty' Bug. I have watched a 'supposedly' good Scimitar get demolished by a freebie Advanced Escort, and so on.
Everyone dies at some point dies in a PvP environment.
I don't say this as a jab at you, I just see similar statements all the time like 'well I can kill X ship in my Y ship, it's not that big a deal'. Just feels boring to me anymore. Obviously someone can kill someone else depending on a great many things.
Lol, extremely true. I was being slightly facetious, and basing that statement on the huge number of "BoP's need a major overhaul and buff" statements I've read.
As far as PvP, why I only rarely do it , mostly impromptu challenges, or with fleet members, like when they want to test out a new build, I just don't like the overwhelming "elitest" attitude that seems prevalent in there. for every 1 guy that wins with grace, or loses with honour, it seems like there's 99 that either want to be like "you suck horribly" (no matter how hard they may have had to work to get their kills), or when they lose, they accuse the other of cheating, hacking, or using an exploit. So I just don't do it. Sure, the actiojn may be fun, but short of killing my chat window, it's not fun to see insults fly left & right that aren't just merely "game trash-talking". If more PvP'ers would limit themselves to that, or if they truly are "god-like" in PvP, and they went to the person(s) they defeated, and offered to help with a little advice or whatever, that would improve their image with me. Same for the losers, if they opened themselves to accepting a little criticism, and listened to advice more frequently, again, would improve my image of the typical "PvP player".
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Except you have not lost a console slot to use the cloak, as has already been proven.
The Defiant is not constructed with a cloak but instead has it bolted on afterwards. As does the Avenger.
If anything deserves a integrated cloak then it is the AGT Dreadnought only and no other.
Except you have not lost a console slot to use the cloak, as has already been proven.
The Defiant is not constructed with a cloak but instead has it bolted on afterwards. As does the Avenger.
If anything deserves a integrated cloak then it is the AGT Dreadnought only and no other.
No, the cloaks should be integrated, or at most devices (not consoles). The CONSOLE should turn the cloaks into battle cloaks when used together. THAT would be worth losing a precious console slot for.
No, the cloaks should be integrated, or at most devices (not consoles). The CONSOLE should turn the cloaks into battle cloaks when used together. THAT would be worth losing a precious console slot for.
So by this reasoning all KDF cloakers have the ability to go Battle Cloak and the BoPS can go Enhanced Battle Cloaking on top of it all just for having a console slot taken?
I agree. Otherwise the feds got what they asked for back in the day. Why should the feds get special treatment now?
Except you have not lost a console slot to use the cloak, as has already been proven.
The Defiant is not constructed with a cloak but instead has it bolted on afterwards. As does the Avenger.
If anything deserves a integrated cloak then it is the AGT Dreadnought only and no other.
The new Fleet klink ship is a 99% clone of the Fleet Avenger, with a slightly different console. Both have 10 consoles. If the Avenger wants to cloak, then we must lose one console slot to the cloak. If the Klink ship wants to cloak, it retains all 10 of it's console slots. This would not be so much of an issue if the klink ship was worse than the fed ship in every way, but it isn't; it's a clone. It's a reskinning. As it stands, the ships can run identical builds, with the exception that the klink version does not need to use up a console slot to cloak. This makes the fed version inferior. The special console that each ship comes with is irrelevant, because if both ships slot theirs and still wish to cloak, that still leaves the Fed Avenger one console short of the Klink ship. 8 vs 9.
I will note AGAIN that if Cryptic does what they traditionally do, and release a rommie version as well, then it will be the best version. For the same price. Because it will be called a Warbird, and come with a Battle Cloak. Seems odd to get better things for the same $25.
EDIT: If I had my way, Battle Cloaks wouldn't exist as they do now. Cloaking would be basic on every Klink ship, the Avenger, Defiant, and Dreadnought, and every warbird. Battle Cloaks would be a console that must slotted, or better yet a device.
Sardak (Science Officer): Captain of a 23k DPS R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel, R.R.W. Vathos Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
The Avenger is not built with cloaking. It was allowed cloaking to use an existing device so the Devs and the UFP would not be seen as lying in the PT2409 on not researching cloaks anymore.
Klingons have no such self imposed restriction. Nor do we have so many way to detect cloaks.
Which again asks, Why are the feds special in yhis debate that yhey get integrated and a device to give them Battle cloaking?
The Avenger is not built with cloaking. It was allowed cloaking to use an existing device so the Devs and the UFP would not be seen as lying in the PT2409 on not researching cloaks anymore.
Klingons have no such self imposed restriction. Nor do we have so many way to detect cloaks.
Which again asks, Why are the feds special in yhis debate that yhey get integrated and a device to give them Battle cloaking?
if they aren't researching cloaks anymore, and my cloaking device is indeed just a hunk of contraband I pulled out of my Defiant, then I need to be able to mount it to any ship I please. I agree with you, and I like your idea. Can't wait to cloak my Atrox!
Sardak (Science Officer): Captain of a 23k DPS R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel, R.R.W. Vathos Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Why not make the Cloaking Device a special Console item? This would allow KDF/Rom players to mount them on any ship they own (but they get special "battle cloak" bonuses from the ships that originally had them or had unique traits). This would allow those in Fed who bought the Defiant or Riker's enterprise to transfer the device off those ships and on to other vessels.
This is the best options for all sides considered...;)
Mogh stats have been posted; and it is superior to the Avenger thanks to innate cloaking and more crew for faster innate repair speeds. (I called it.) No sacrifice made for the ability to cloak; not one. Considering the Avenger has to give up two console slots to universals for the same level of function as its direct counterpart, at a cost of almost twice as much in the end; the old standard looks quite dead.
Make the three ships in Starfleet which can cloak, innate; to keep up with the Jonses in game-mechanic balance. Though cloaking should only these for three in the current roster; Starfleet is not the Terran Empire, even as much as I would enjoy that. Nor should they Battlecloak, as that really should have remained the realm of the lightest ships like the Bird-of-Prey; I disagree heavily with Cryptic letting monsters like the Scimitar act like mega-BoPs.
The game has changed. It's time to make sure everyone is playing to the tune of the new edition.
(Also, just don't feed the troll. bitemepwe isn't here to debate, he's just here to preach the same disproved misinformation and strawman with lore)
Mogh stats have been posted; and it is superior to the Avenger thanks to innate cloaking and more crew for faster innate repair speeds. (I called it.) No sacrifice made for the ability to cloak; not one. Considering the Avenger has to give up two console slots to universals for the same level of function as its direct counterpart, at a cost of almost twice as much in the end; the old standard looks quite dead.
Make the three ships in Starfleet which can cloak, innate; to keep up with the Jonses in game-mechanic balance. Though cloaking should only these for three in the current roster; Starfleet is not the Terran Empire, even as much as I would enjoy that. Nor should they Battlecloak, as that really should have remained the realm of the lightest ships like the Bird-of-Prey; I disagree heavily with Cryptic letting monsters like the Scimitar act like mega-BoPs.
The game has changed. It's time to make sure everyone is playing to the tune of the new edition.
(Also, just don't feed the troll. bitemepwe isn't here to debate, he's just here to preach the same disproved misinformation and strawman with lore)
Maybe I can send an email a day to Cryptic, begging for a fed cloak rework. Maybe a handwritten letter? I dunno.
(I'll try not to feed the troll next time. He's usually helpful in other threads, I assumed he'd see reason in this one.)
Sardak (Science Officer): Captain of a 23k DPS R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel, R.R.W. Vathos Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Still... bit of a ripoff here. I already bought the Avenger. This is the Avenger. why do I have to buy it again? What if I bought the avenger and want the Fleet Mogh? I still have to pay a TRIBBLE-ton for fleet modules. I should get the Fleet Mogh for 1 module because I bought the Avenger already....
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Its ridge envy, pure and simple. The average fed cant stand not being the top of the Targ pile in all things so they must connive and debate their way into convincing themselves that they are poorly designed as a faction with subpar choices in anything that doesnt fdraw the envy of others while pratically broadcasting their greatness for all tonsee.
Its really kinda sad if you think about it. So many feds have died to the attacks of KDF vessels that they have a neurosis about it and still blaim the cloak as the OP difference maker.
Kinda makes cannonical sense if you think on it. They where the last of the star fairing important races. I mean vulcans, romulans and even Klingons where already in space by the time they stumbled onto warp drive. I'd feel like the child at the grown up table too, crying for everything I thought could make me sit taller and see everyone on eye level.
Balance smalance, its envy of an ability they think makes the difference in a fight.
Seriuosly ask any competant Defiant pilot if that Battle cloaking BoP had a chance in a sustained dog fight. Afterall there is a reason why BoPs do hit-n-run attacks while a Defiant can loiter in combat almost at will, and it aint because the BoP can cut and run.
Pity them because we evidently spanked to hard in the old days and such a beating makes for poor sports and childish outlooks.
R.I.P
Well, that's nover-tuned BoP there, pretty different from a Defiant. I tend to not worry about those 'elite' pvper ego flicks, it's cut-and-pasting their best moments, often of the oft-repeated decloak alpha. Viewing those get's kinda boring after a while.
"The Borg - party-poopers of the galaxy" ~ The Doctor
You can quit your whining now feddies.
Nobody's asking for a battlecloak. We're asking for a slight retuning of the existing fed cloak.
Better worded as never ask for Starfleet improvements in Federation forums, without expecting the angry Klinkuns barging in and waving their torches and bat'leths around. :rolleyes:
I prefer to call it Jonathan Archer syndrome since he pretty much embodies this attitude.
EDIT: Also, if Cryptic follows suit and creates a romulan version (like I'm sure they will), then it will have a battle cloak... making it the "best" version. I don't really like three copies of a ship, and having one of them being better than the rest.
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Yeah, that would be a cheesefest right there. And while I like cheese, I don't like it THAT much, LOL. I prefer mozarella anyway, hehe.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Lol, and it's no wonder us Feds can't have nice things......the KDFers whine to try and get them taken away or nerfed. because their precious little BoP's can't stand against any one of our ships, flown by a halfway competent player. :cool::D:cool:
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Eh...true, but also true if you ever talk about any ship vs any ship.
I've seen a Galaxy mop the floor with a BoP. I've seen many a ship pop the 'almighty' Bug. I have watched a 'supposedly' good Scimitar get demolished by a freebie Advanced Escort, and so on.
Everyone dies at some point dies in a PvP environment.
I don't say this as a jab at you, I just see similar statements all the time like 'well I can kill X ship in my Y ship, it's not that big a deal'. Just feels boring to me anymore. Obviously someone can kill someone else depending on a great many things.
It seems that kdf ship will have a defence system console while avenger has a ofensive console (VATA) so there are differences between the 2 .
More lets see the ship's stats
( It wouldn't be a new thing that kdf ship will have lower mods than fed counterpart .)
And lastly giving the same stat ship wouldn't bother me ,actually having a cloak as a console+higher turn rate,shield mod,inertia are a better deal than integrated cloak and poor shield mod,poor turn rate,high inertia (Btw : The best raptor in game is strangely again Fleet defiant with cloak console)
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Not sure if this is trolling or ignorance..
Kdf goodies have been stolen by the feds for a long time now so don't play this stupid card.
All of our purchased goodies have basically been given to the feds while all of your rubbish has been given to the KDF.
Don't play the ignorance or troll card on this one.
Lol, extremely true. I was being slightly facetious, and basing that statement on the huge number of "BoP's need a major overhaul and buff" statements I've read.
As far as PvP, why I only rarely do it , mostly impromptu challenges, or with fleet members, like when they want to test out a new build, I just don't like the overwhelming "elitest" attitude that seems prevalent in there. for every 1 guy that wins with grace, or loses with honour, it seems like there's 99 that either want to be like "you suck horribly" (no matter how hard they may have had to work to get their kills), or when they lose, they accuse the other of cheating, hacking, or using an exploit. So I just don't do it. Sure, the actiojn may be fun, but short of killing my chat window, it's not fun to see insults fly left & right that aren't just merely "game trash-talking". If more PvP'ers would limit themselves to that, or if they truly are "god-like" in PvP, and they went to the person(s) they defeated, and offered to help with a little advice or whatever, that would improve their image with me. Same for the losers, if they opened themselves to accepting a little criticism, and listened to advice more frequently, again, would improve my image of the typical "PvP player".
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
ANd ummm, just not going to bother with this one anymore.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
The Defiant is not constructed with a cloak but instead has it bolted on afterwards. As does the Avenger.
If anything deserves a integrated cloak then it is the AGT Dreadnought only and no other.
R.I.P
sad attempt.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
No, the cloaks should be integrated, or at most devices (not consoles). The CONSOLE should turn the cloaks into battle cloaks when used together. THAT would be worth losing a precious console slot for.
So by this reasoning all KDF cloakers have the ability to go Battle Cloak and the BoPS can go Enhanced Battle Cloaking on top of it all just for having a console slot taken?
I agree. Otherwise the feds got what they asked for back in the day. Why should the feds get special treatment now?
R.I.P
The new Fleet klink ship is a 99% clone of the Fleet Avenger, with a slightly different console. Both have 10 consoles. If the Avenger wants to cloak, then we must lose one console slot to the cloak. If the Klink ship wants to cloak, it retains all 10 of it's console slots. This would not be so much of an issue if the klink ship was worse than the fed ship in every way, but it isn't; it's a clone. It's a reskinning. As it stands, the ships can run identical builds, with the exception that the klink version does not need to use up a console slot to cloak. This makes the fed version inferior. The special console that each ship comes with is irrelevant, because if both ships slot theirs and still wish to cloak, that still leaves the Fed Avenger one console short of the Klink ship. 8 vs 9.
I will note AGAIN that if Cryptic does what they traditionally do, and release a rommie version as well, then it will be the best version. For the same price. Because it will be called a Warbird, and come with a Battle Cloak. Seems odd to get better things for the same $25.
EDIT: If I had my way, Battle Cloaks wouldn't exist as they do now. Cloaking would be basic on every Klink ship, the Avenger, Defiant, and Dreadnought, and every warbird. Battle Cloaks would be a console that must slotted, or better yet a device.
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Klingons have no such self imposed restriction. Nor do we have so many way to detect cloaks.
Which again asks, Why are the feds special in yhis debate that yhey get integrated and a device to give them Battle cloaking?
R.I.P
if they aren't researching cloaks anymore, and my cloaking device is indeed just a hunk of contraband I pulled out of my Defiant, then I need to be able to mount it to any ship I please. I agree with you, and I like your idea. Can't wait to cloak my Atrox!
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
This is the best options for all sides considered...;)
Make the three ships in Starfleet which can cloak, innate; to keep up with the Jonses in game-mechanic balance. Though cloaking should only these for three in the current roster; Starfleet is not the Terran Empire, even as much as I would enjoy that. Nor should they Battlecloak, as that really should have remained the realm of the lightest ships like the Bird-of-Prey; I disagree heavily with Cryptic letting monsters like the Scimitar act like mega-BoPs.
The game has changed. It's time to make sure everyone is playing to the tune of the new edition.
(Also, just don't feed the troll. bitemepwe isn't here to debate, he's just here to preach the same disproved misinformation and strawman with lore)
Maybe I can send an email a day to Cryptic, begging for a fed cloak rework. Maybe a handwritten letter? I dunno.
(I'll try not to feed the troll next time. He's usually helpful in other threads, I assumed he'd see reason in this one.)
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
and this is the Avenger.