Yea. Like this issue. I bet you that is was some stupid life member who actually complained and said they were going to cancel and revoke the charges and blah blah blabidy blah if the tour wasnt nerfed like it was.
I'll take that bet.
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
It should remain active. I have been playing much less recently, and while not the only reason, this stealth nerf to an event I enjoyed to fix a nonproblem did play a bit of a role. Cryptic's reaction was a completely unjustified reaction and while they said they would listen, the fact is they did not and failed to implement a proper and reasonable fix. Consequently, I have failed to buy anything from them since. Failure breeds more failure, or so the saying goes...
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I've still yet to see anything that wasn't already losing value come down in cost of EC's. All the nerf did was cause f2p player's and new player's grief in being able to generate EC's easily. Forcing people to try and lower their prices isn't working to well there Cryptic if that was your intent, instead items potentially cost more or take longer to sell thereby reducing the amount of zen purchases for those looking to make some money.
What, don't you know? That's gonna take a loooong time. Months, years, or something like that - you won't even remember this ever happened by the time the exchange becomes all wonderful, and everyone who's not a TRIBBLE entitled whiner like us is finally vindicated.
I've still yet to see anything that wasn't already losing value come down in cost of EC's. All the nerf did was cause f2p player's and new player's grief in being able to generate EC's easily. Forcing people to try and lower their prices isn't working to well there Cryptic if that was your intent, instead items potentially cost more or take longer to sell thereby reducing the amount of zen purchases for those looking to make some money.
How in good gravy is this thread still going, and, largely, on topic?
Doff prices are tumbling ,
Blue & Purple vendor trash prices are tumbling ,
NADORC's award prices are tumbling ,
EC is becoming harder to get ,
Lockbox ship prices on the exchange are staying the same .
Yeah , so why is this thread still open ? :rolleyes:;)
Doff prices are tumbling ,
Blue & Purple vendor trash prices are tumbling ,
NADORC's award prices are tumbling
And this is bad? I suppose it is if you are trying to sell. Good news if you are trying to buy. Or, maybe the change to the tour is having the intended effect.
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Doff prices are tumbling ,
Blue & Purple vendor trash prices are tumbling ,
NADORC's award prices are tumbling ,
EC is becoming harder to get ,
Lockbox ship prices on the exchange are staying the same .
Yeah , so why is this thread still open ? :rolleyes:;)
Actually... at least some of those have more to do with other factors than the Tour.
Doffs started to fall when the Cell ship was released.
the stuff related to crafting Mk12 consoles has been dropping since they introduced the fleet holdings with their even better consoles.
Actually... at least some of those have more to do with other factors than the Tour.
Doffs started to fall when the Cell ship was released.
the stuff related to crafting Mk12 consoles has been dropping since they introduced the fleet holdings with their even better consoles.
Perhaps , but it is a combined effect with the Tour , Embassy/Mine consoles , new Doff packs , more and more ppl using the Foundry in desperation to get some EC , no matter how low they drive the market .
But hey it's all good for Cryptic , as with all the strangled EC production , some will be desperate enough to buy some more keys to supplement their lack of EC ... -- as the Lockbox ships will not be coming down in prices .
Like Cryptic's promises of content -- I'll believe that when I see it .
Perhaps , but it is a combined effect with the Tour , Embassy/Mine consoles , new Doff packs , more and more ppl using the Foundry in desperation to get some EC , no matter how low they drive the market .
But hey it's all good for Cryptic , as with all the strangled EC production , some will be desperate enough to buy some more keys to supplement their lack of EC ... -- as the Lockbox ships will not be coming down in prices .
Yeah.... it's a conspiracy to make zen and not the devs doing game balance.... right...
Like Cryptic's promises of content -- I'll believe that when I see it .
So... A Romulan faction with unique missions to level from 1-40 and new KDF tutorial and missions doesn't count as 'content'?? LOL. Sure, players will chew through content way faster than they can make it, but it's laughable to say that they haven't delivered ANY new content. I suppose de-Nile ain't just a river in Egypt.
-- as the Lockbox ships will not be coming down in prices .
And you can promise this how? It all depends on how much EC is taken out of the system, if at all. If the net EC in the STO economy doesn't actually decrease, then of course prices will not come down. If players find other ways to generate EC that replaces what they were making through the tour, then there is unlikely to be any change.
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So... A Romulan faction with unique missions to level from 1-40 and new KDF tutorial and missions doesn't count as 'content'??
New PVP maps ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New STF's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New FE's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New Foundry updates ? Nope . Adventure zones .
And guess what ?
Nukara , Defara , Nimbus , New Romulus are just not enough .
Next update : Adventure zone .
So get ready to get exited as Cryptic does it again ... .
See , there is content and there is content ... , and not all content is good , especially when so many neglected facets of the game exist .
New PVP maps ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New STF's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New FE's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New Foundry updates ? Nope . Adventure zones .
And guess what ?
Nukara , Defara , Nimbus , New Romulus are just not enough .
Next update : Adventure zone .
So get ready to get exited as Cryptic does it again ... .
See , there is content and there is content ... , and not all content is good , especially when so many neglected facets of the game exist .
Ohhhhh... so since it's not content that YOU personally want/enjoy, it doesn't count as 'content'. I get it now. Thanks for the clarification.
Greed is eternal, but only in context of what the market will bear. Just because I am greedy doesn't mean I can list a hypo for 1 mill EC and expect it to sell. When the supply of EC isn't there anymore, doesn't matter how 'greedy' a seller is.
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Ohhhhh... so since it's not content that YOU personally want/enjoy, it doesn't count as 'content'. I get it now. Thanks for the clarification.
Greed is eternal, but only in context of what the market will bear. Just because I am greedy doesn't mean I can list a hypo for 1 mill EC and expect it to sell. When the supply of EC isn't there anymore, doesn't matter how 'greedy' a seller is.
'Holier than thou' players who were never in the mood for the touring event have absolutely no right to comment about it, and furthermore no right to speak to the level of content and enjoyment we as actual players of the tour got from being challenged to improve our ships to speeds those same critics could only dream of achieving, thus they convinced cryptic to nerf the event so that they would feel better than those they jealously imposed this discriminatory act upon.
I say bring back the tour the way it was BEFORE the nerfing, and let the whiners who choose not to participate keep their hateful spite of this event to themselves!
'Holier than thou' players who were never in the mood for the touring event have absolutely no right to comment about it, and furthermore no right to speak to the level of content and enjoyment we as actual players of the tour got from being challenged to improve our ships to speeds those same critics could only dream of achieving, thus they convinced cryptic to nerf the event so that they would feel better than those they jealously imposed this discriminatory act upon.
I say bring back the tour the way it was BEFORE the nerfing, and let the whiners who choose not to participate keep their hateful spite of this event to themselves!
'Holier than thou' players who were never in the mood for the touring event have absolutely no right to comment about it, and furthermore no right to speak to the level of content and enjoyment we as actual players of the tour got from being challenged to improve our ships to speeds those same critics could only dream of achieving, thus they convinced cryptic to nerf the event so that they would feel better than those they jealously imposed this discriminatory act upon.
I say bring back the tour the way it was BEFORE the nerfing, and let the whiners who choose not to participate keep their hateful spite of this event to themselves!
:P
Spite? really? I've done the tour many times, but the strategy of only doing a few sectors then dropping it and restarting needed to be quashed.
And ponder this: If you're really that fast, then you can do it in however many minutes and spend the rest of the hour doing Elite STFs....
Spite? really? I've done the tour many times, but the strategy of only doing a few sectors then dropping it and restarting needed to be quashed.
And ponder this: If you're really that fast, then you can do it in however many minutes and spend the rest of the hour doing Elite STFs....
Perhaps I wish to spend the ENTIRE hour doing tour, and I did it in the legitimate fashion of the completing the full course each time.
Why did cryptic think it necessary to penalize such players for a few others that cheated by running a subset of the whole race. Couldn't cryptic instead have figured out a way to block cheaters AND allow legitimate players to do the race as many times as possible within the hour the tour is hosted?
I only ask this with the honest intent of returning the tour to the event that it once was, which for now is just a fantasy. Why won't you consider that there are other possibilities to how this could have been fixed that would not have resulted in so much anger and animosity towards the developers.
Before you used to always know when tour the universe was on as there were ships speeding through the sectors on carefully chosen paths for a full hour. It gave a good feeling of community especially with people hanging around wolf359 to give DI and RP to people.
Now, almost no-one is flying around, certainly no mass exodus of starships. For that reason alone they should bring it back as this nerd is just detrimental to the community spirit.
Before you used to always know when tour the universe was on as there were ships speeding through the sectors on carefully chosen paths for a full hour. It gave a good feeling of community especially with people hanging around wolf359 to give DI and RP to people.
Now, almost no-one is flying around, certainly no mass exodus of starships. For that reason alone they should bring it back as this nerd is just detrimental to the community spirit.
yeah, kind of sad cryptic did that to their loyal base.
Perhaps I wish to spend the ENTIRE hour doing tour, and I did it in the legitimate fashion of the completing the full course each time.
Why did cryptic think it necessary to penalize such players for a few others that cheated by running a subset of the whole race. Couldn't cryptic instead have figured out a way to block cheaters AND allow legitimate players to do the race as many times as possible within the hour the tour is hosted?
I only ask this with the honest intent of returning the tour to the event that it once was, which for now is just a fantasy. Why won't you consider that there are other possibilities to how this could have been fixed that would not have resulted in so much anger and animosity towards the developers.
I can only think that it's some kind of stupid Eastern market thing, telling us when we want to play.
I wonder if it actually is profitable over there or if everyone just plays less like over here and they end up with a lot less money and are too stupid to realize it?
Bring it back in its full glory, but change the reward to something else, something unique. Bring back Marks of Exploration, and they can be used to buy special transwarp beacons, driver coil boost consumables or cosmetic ship items.
What I would've done was give the full payout only upon completing a full circuit, rather than paying upon completing a government's territory with a bonus at the end. If you had sectors left over when time ran out, you would get a partial payout.
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Bring it back in its full glory, but change the reward to something else, something unique. Bring back Marks of Exploration, and they can be used to buy special transwarp beacons, driver coil boost consumables or cosmetic ship items.
Exactly! like only issuing the rewards at a) when the entire race is completed, or b) in the case of a partial complete, ONLY when the event ends. hence, this would nerf the cheaters and allow legit players to repeat it more than once.
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'misery accomplished' cryptic? yesiree :rolleyes:
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Doff prices are tumbling ,
Blue & Purple vendor trash prices are tumbling ,
NADORC's award prices are tumbling ,
EC is becoming harder to get ,
Lockbox ship prices on the exchange are staying the same .
Yeah , so why is this thread still open ? :rolleyes:;)
Just a matter of time before these start coming down too.
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Doffs started to fall when the Cell ship was released.
the stuff related to crafting Mk12 consoles has been dropping since they introduced the fleet holdings with their even better consoles.
My character Tsin'xing
Like Cryptic's promises of content -- I'll believe that when I see it .
Perhaps , but it is a combined effect with the Tour , Embassy/Mine consoles , new Doff packs , more and more ppl using the Foundry in desperation to get some EC , no matter how low they drive the market .
But hey it's all good for Cryptic , as with all the strangled EC production , some will be desperate enough to buy some more keys to supplement their lack of EC ... -- as the Lockbox ships will not be coming down in prices .
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One man's ballance is another man's stranglehold .
Nothing new in economics there .
And speaking of 'balance' , where is that happening exactly ?
Did a zero drop from the cost of all items -- now with less EC being available ?
Nope .
And you can promise this how? It all depends on how much EC is taken out of the system, if at all. If the net EC in the STO economy doesn't actually decrease, then of course prices will not come down. If players find other ways to generate EC that replaces what they were making through the tour, then there is unlikely to be any change.
Come join the 44th Fleet.
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New PVP maps ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New STF's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New FE's ? Nope . Adventure zones .
New Foundry updates ? Nope . Adventure zones .
And guess what ?
Nukara , Defara , Nimbus , New Romulus are just not enough .
Next update : Adventure zone .
So get ready to get exited as Cryptic does it again ... .
See , there is content and there is content ... , and not all content is good , especially when so many neglected facets of the game exist .
Rules of Acquisition #10: Greed is eternal.
Ohhhhh... so since it's not content that YOU personally want/enjoy, it doesn't count as 'content'. I get it now. Thanks for the clarification.
Greed is eternal, but only in context of what the market will bear. Just because I am greedy doesn't mean I can list a hypo for 1 mill EC and expect it to sell. When the supply of EC isn't there anymore, doesn't matter how 'greedy' a seller is.
Come join the 44th Fleet.
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'Holier than thou' players who were never in the mood for the touring event have absolutely no right to comment about it, and furthermore no right to speak to the level of content and enjoyment we as actual players of the tour got from being challenged to improve our ships to speeds those same critics could only dream of achieving, thus they convinced cryptic to nerf the event so that they would feel better than those they jealously imposed this discriminatory act upon.
I say bring back the tour the way it was BEFORE the nerfing, and let the whiners who choose not to participate keep their hateful spite of this event to themselves!
:P
Guess that shut them up.:rolleyes:
And ponder this: If you're really that fast, then you can do it in however many minutes and spend the rest of the hour doing Elite STFs....
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Perhaps I wish to spend the ENTIRE hour doing tour, and I did it in the legitimate fashion of the completing the full course each time.
Why did cryptic think it necessary to penalize such players for a few others that cheated by running a subset of the whole race. Couldn't cryptic instead have figured out a way to block cheaters AND allow legitimate players to do the race as many times as possible within the hour the tour is hosted?
I only ask this with the honest intent of returning the tour to the event that it once was, which for now is just a fantasy. Why won't you consider that there are other possibilities to how this could have been fixed that would not have resulted in so much anger and animosity towards the developers.
Now, almost no-one is flying around, certainly no mass exodus of starships. For that reason alone they should bring it back as this nerd is just detrimental to the community spirit.
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Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
yeah, kind of sad cryptic did that to their loyal base.
I can only think that it's some kind of stupid Eastern market thing, telling us when we want to play.
I wonder if it actually is profitable over there or if everyone just plays less like over here and they end up with a lot less money and are too stupid to realize it?
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Exactly! like only issuing the rewards at a) when the entire race is completed, or b) in the case of a partial complete, ONLY when the event ends. hence, this would nerf the cheaters and allow legit players to repeat it more than once.