I, for one, can't imagine having more fun with the Flying Door Wedge (Scimitar) than the Vesta. The Flying door wedge doesn't do anything THAT spectacular! I mean, let's look at it - the Scimitar has:
Carrier abilities: Vesta does that too
Uber Shield Abiliities: Vesta does that too (quantum Shield from three-piece set, Graviton shield, healing fermion field)
Special Weapon: Vesta does that too (quantum focus phaser, Aux phaser cannons unique to ship)
Granted, the Vesta can't cloak by design but, whilst it is EXTREMELY limited, the T5 Romulan Rep reward allows brief battle cloak useage.
So, whilst the Vesta is undoubtedly weaker in terms of shield and hull (well, it's a sci ship for goodness sake!) and the Scimitar's 'uber weapon' will undoubtedly do more DPS, there are a LOT of similiarities in the end product.
I have been lobbying for a Vesta battlecloak for a long time. it only needs that, to know everything.
actually thats a good idea. give the vesta a lobi store battlecloak!
Wow, the secondary shielding lasts for 15 seconds? That's a major letdown... God forbid they make something passive.
It looks like they are all limited time then CD abilities, which kinda sucks... But whatever. I would've taken a hit to the strength of the abilities in exchange for one of them being passive.
Wow, the secondary shielding lasts for 15 seconds? That's a major letdown... God forbid they make something passive.
It looks like they are all limited time then CD abilities, which kinda sucks... But whatever. I would've taken a hit to the strength of the abilities in exchange for one of them being passive.
Rapid maneuvering thrusters? Ok, sounds cool.
Thalaron Pulse? Yeah baby!
45 seconds, not 15.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Once again I am right to put my trust in the players of this game, rather than the devs.
I like the consoles, unique but I don't think overpowered. The shield one is only going to be useful if someone finds you when cloaked and you need to buy some defence.
Secondary shields, yeah, to an escort that will last, what two seconds? Being serious on that by the way, if people can get cruisers to do 10K DPS, your average escort will chew that extra shielding in no time.
Cloaked Barage, it this is on the usual three minute cooldown, looks like you get 15 seconds of fire, and then you're weapons power is done. Good for a quick first strike or a last strike on a damaged enemy. The Placate might be too much, since this doesn't seem to disable cloak at all, I don't know why you need it, thought if its like the B'rel fire through cloak, the placate does cover that moment of time when you would be targatable.
Thalaron Pulse, I'd like to see some damage numbers and range. If you have to sit still and wait for it, it had better be massive, not one hit kill, but a good coup de grace.
Personally I'd really like to know about the Rapid Maneuvering Thrusters and the Drones. Does maneuvering thrusters do what it says on the tin? Is this a perminent passive boost to turn rate, or something like evasive? And what about the drones? How do they change into other ships? Is it random, can you choose? And this is the first carrier we have had with a cloak. Can we launch our fighters, and then cloak and keep on directing them to attack?
Also, does this ship immeadately go into self destruct mood if hit by a assault cruiser under ramming speed?
I also think that the Scimitar is a pointless, hideous, waste of time; a flying door-wedge which someone stuck stupid wings to, and an extremely uninteresting and unoriginal design. That's MY opinion, which I am equally entitled to.
And even though I freakin LOVE the Scimitar, your post made me chuckle
My point still stands, make it passive and allow us to heal the shields. Otherwise it's just another copy of our singularity power that buff our shields. Which in end game is useless...
We have a few facts and some questions. I noted the ship displayed 52,000 hull on the info panel for that player. That?s way more than I anticipated. I thought it turned a little better than an Oddy or a D?D unlike some others but that might have something to do with the set bonus (2) as we saw the special weapon (set 3) in action. The wings do fold up and out for special weapon firing. The special weapon reminded me of a shotgun blast in that it seemed short range and a very wide cone with a kind of dinky looking green graphics effect (particularly dinky with the awesome wing folding.)
I can?t tell for sure if it has one or two hangars? Based on the number of drone ships I want to say one but there was a hiccup there in the launching that made me wonder. It may just be a battle or escort carrier rather than a full carrier.
And good lord, it has a nearly 16K secondary shield usable for a full 45 seconds. I wonder what the cool down is? Three minutes would be err... interesting and lead to some tears.
Cloaked Barrage has a 1.2 second placate associated with it. Minus 50 weapons power after use. Now whats the cool down there? A full 15 seconds of firing time. It's interesting for a "cloaked alpha" or stealth kill. If its BOFF layout is similar to an escort then there is huge tear potential. I mean if you thought being killed by invisible Borg torps was bad, how about being killed by players you literally never see?
I am not sure how useful the singularity distributor is. Shields while cloaked may let you not worry over a minefield or something and nerf some science powers but otherwise?
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about the ship right now. It?s way more a sneaky battleship with a hangar bay than the carrier many expected based on the old NPC ship. As such I am thinking it has a 5 BOFF layout.
Wow, the secondary shielding lasts for 15 seconds? That's a major letdown... God forbid they make something passive.
It looks like they are all limited time then CD abilities, which kinda sucks... But whatever. I would've taken a hit to the strength of the abilities in exchange for one of them being passive.
Rapid maneuvering thrusters? Ok, sounds cool.
Thalaron Pulse? Yeah baby!
Its a good thing that it isn't a permanent buff, they gave everyone all of the shiny powers the ship had in the movie except they aren't permanent which would've made the ship way over the top.
I'm happy with the consoles and now its just a matter of when they'll release it.
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Its a good thing that it isn't a permanent buff, they gave everyone all of the shiny powers the ship had in the movie except they aren't permanent which would've made the ship way over the top.
I'm happy with the consoles and now its just a matter of when they'll release it.
Dev Blog might be next week per Brandon in another post I think. So probably the 4th or the 11th. Whenever they are A) done with testing, and when they think the hype has worn off the Risa event.
I have been lobbying for a Vesta battlecloak for a long time. it only needs that, to know everything.
actually thats a good idea. give the vesta a lobi store battlecloak!
No. Not just no, but bloody heck no.
If you want a battle cloak on a ship, roll a Romulan or KDF. ;P
But we all knew that. the fact that today is june 26 and there has been no official mention of the dreadnought pack means one of two things.
1. (more likely) the devs are behind schedule and are not talking about it to keep the hype down for something that is not done yet or even close to being done.
2. (very unlikely but awesome if true) the devs are planning a surprise release to live play and they are intent on keeping it a secret.
Either way, between the Azure update and the rare scimitars on tribble, they are working on something... something big.
Can't wait.
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But we all knew that. the fact that today is june 26 and there has been no official mention of the dreadnought pack means one of two things.
1. (more likely) the devs are behind schedule and are not talking about it to keep the hype down for something that is not done yet or even close to being done.
2. (very unlikely but awesome if true) the devs are planning a surprise release to live play and they are intent on keeping it a secret.
Either way, between the Azure update and the rare scimitars on tribble, they are working on something... something big.
Can't wait.
We've had Official Word from Bran that there won't be an Official announcement regarding the Scimitar until next week.
Unofficially, there are pics of the console stats, the drones and vids of the playable Scimitar strutting it's stuff out on the web.
But we all knew that. the fact that today is june 26 and there has been no official mention of the dreadnought pack means one of two things.
1. (more likely) the devs are behind schedule and are not talking about it to keep the hype down for something that is not done yet or even close to being done.
2. (very unlikely but awesome if true) the devs are planning a surprise release to live play and they are intent on keeping it a secret.
Or the cynical option 3.
The timing of their release is pinned to sales figures for master keys.
With limited T5 ship options for Romulans that only leaves eg. the Tal'Shiar pair. From a business point of view it would make sense to delay the release of c-store ships until master key sales driven by players going for those two ships begins to wane.
The timing of their release is pinned to sales figures for master keys.
With limited T5 ship options for Romulans that only leaves eg. the Tal'Shiar pair. From a business point of view it would make sense to delay the release of c-store ships until master key sales driven by players going for those two ships begins to wane.
I disagree. Anybody willing to play the key game for ships will buy this anyway. If they are waiting it is to build hype and anticipation as I'm sure the most money is made on or near release of the item
I bloody hope its not a 3 turn rate!. Where did you get the pictures???? And only 10000 hull?
The Tribble Gateway by the looks of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if that ship was under review for the Turn Rate and Hull, or the Gateway is bugged
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Hmm...if this is real...maybe they will be making each type more unique, I can't see 5/3 with 5 tac consoles and hanger (which I don't see in these). So if they're real maybe the tac version is all guns...maybe sci has a hanger?
These pics just seems kinda fishy, with the motley crew of items and the second console in the engineering slots looks like a cloaking device...and all of those funny consoles that I don't recognize and none of them have the infinity mark like most universal consoles.
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Has there been any confirmed information on hangers? Is it a one hanger escort or is it a full carrier/dreadnaught carrier with two hangers? I want a carrier more then a crusier/escort. Thanks for the information guys. Cant wait to fly it either way.
Its been confirmed from the UGC podcast it has 2 hangars 5 fore 3 aft all carrier pets now use a veteran system so the longer they stay alive the more powerful they become. Improved pet control and UI. 3 console set give thalron weapon ship is massive compared to other ships. 3 variants tac, eng, sci
Hull is 52000, do the math, the turnrate IS 3. Thats the way Cryptic has always calculated turnrate, based on hull (well except for the Breen or Bugship)
I can see it now, every STF, zillions of them damn things, and everyone of them mounting cannons. *smacks forehead*
but if you use all 3 of the consoles it will have a turn rate of 5 (the usual gimmick to sell a 3 pack)
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I have been lobbying for a Vesta battlecloak for a long time. it only needs that, to know everything.
actually thats a good idea. give the vesta a lobi store battlecloak!
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Wow, the secondary shielding lasts for 15 seconds? That's a major letdown... God forbid they make something passive.
It looks like they are all limited time then CD abilities, which kinda sucks... But whatever. I would've taken a hit to the strength of the abilities in exchange for one of them being passive.
Rapid maneuvering thrusters? Ok, sounds cool.
Thalaron Pulse? Yeah baby!
45 seconds, not 15.
I like the consoles, unique but I don't think overpowered. The shield one is only going to be useful if someone finds you when cloaked and you need to buy some defence.
Secondary shields, yeah, to an escort that will last, what two seconds? Being serious on that by the way, if people can get cruisers to do 10K DPS, your average escort will chew that extra shielding in no time.
Cloaked Barage, it this is on the usual three minute cooldown, looks like you get 15 seconds of fire, and then you're weapons power is done. Good for a quick first strike or a last strike on a damaged enemy. The Placate might be too much, since this doesn't seem to disable cloak at all, I don't know why you need it, thought if its like the B'rel fire through cloak, the placate does cover that moment of time when you would be targatable.
Thalaron Pulse, I'd like to see some damage numbers and range. If you have to sit still and wait for it, it had better be massive, not one hit kill, but a good coup de grace.
Personally I'd really like to know about the Rapid Maneuvering Thrusters and the Drones. Does maneuvering thrusters do what it says on the tin? Is this a perminent passive boost to turn rate, or something like evasive? And what about the drones? How do they change into other ships? Is it random, can you choose? And this is the first carrier we have had with a cloak. Can we launch our fighters, and then cloak and keep on directing them to attack?
Also, does this ship immeadately go into self destruct mood if hit by a assault cruiser under ramming speed?
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And even though I freakin LOVE the Scimitar, your post made me chuckle
Yeah, I accidentally put 15 seconds...
My point still stands, make it passive and allow us to heal the shields. Otherwise it's just another copy of our singularity power that buff our shields. Which in end game is useless...
I can?t tell for sure if it has one or two hangars? Based on the number of drone ships I want to say one but there was a hiccup there in the launching that made me wonder. It may just be a battle or escort carrier rather than a full carrier.
And good lord, it has a nearly 16K secondary shield usable for a full 45 seconds. I wonder what the cool down is? Three minutes would be err... interesting and lead to some tears.
Cloaked Barrage has a 1.2 second placate associated with it. Minus 50 weapons power after use. Now whats the cool down there? A full 15 seconds of firing time. It's interesting for a "cloaked alpha" or stealth kill. If its BOFF layout is similar to an escort then there is huge tear potential. I mean if you thought being killed by invisible Borg torps was bad, how about being killed by players you literally never see?
I am not sure how useful the singularity distributor is. Shields while cloaked may let you not worry over a minefield or something and nerf some science powers but otherwise?
Honestly, I don't know how I feel about the ship right now. It?s way more a sneaky battleship with a hangar bay than the carrier many expected based on the old NPC ship. As such I am thinking it has a 5 BOFF layout.
Its a good thing that it isn't a permanent buff, they gave everyone all of the shiny powers the ship had in the movie except they aren't permanent which would've made the ship way over the top.
I'm happy with the consoles and now its just a matter of when they'll release it.
Dev Blog might be next week per Brandon in another post I think. So probably the 4th or the 11th. Whenever they are A) done with testing, and when they think the hype has worn off the Risa event.
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No. Not just no, but bloody heck no.
If you want a battle cloak on a ship, roll a Romulan or KDF. ;P
But we all knew that. the fact that today is june 26 and there has been no official mention of the dreadnought pack means one of two things.
1. (more likely) the devs are behind schedule and are not talking about it to keep the hype down for something that is not done yet or even close to being done.
2. (very unlikely but awesome if true) the devs are planning a surprise release to live play and they are intent on keeping it a secret.
Either way, between the Azure update and the rare scimitars on tribble, they are working on something... something big.
Can't wait.
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We've had Official Word from Bran that there won't be an Official announcement regarding the Scimitar until next week.
Unofficially, there are pics of the console stats, the drones and vids of the playable Scimitar strutting it's stuff out on the web.
Hope you have your Zen ready!
Or the cynical option 3.
The timing of their release is pinned to sales figures for master keys.
With limited T5 ship options for Romulans that only leaves eg. the Tal'Shiar pair. From a business point of view it would make sense to delay the release of c-store ships until master key sales driven by players going for those two ships begins to wane.
I disagree. Anybody willing to play the key game for ships will buy this anyway. If they are waiting it is to build hype and anticipation as I'm sure the most money is made on or near release of the item
I'd assume it is 2500 for one or 5000 for all three like the other 3 packs
:eek:..................
Turnrate 3 its like a whale but the ship is for tactical (look at BO?ff stations)
I bloody hope its not a 3 turn rate!. Where did you get the pictures???? And only 10000 hull?
Find it in the german forum (i?m from germany)
http://sto-forum.de.perfectworld.eu/showthread.php?t=303661&page=3
The Tribble Gateway by the looks of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if that ship was under review for the Turn Rate and Hull, or the Gateway is bugged
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Yeah I guessed something was up... :rolleyes:
Like I said, I figured something was up :P
These pics just seems kinda fishy, with the motley crew of items and the second console in the engineering slots looks like a cloaking device...and all of those funny consoles that I don't recognize and none of them have the infinity mark like most universal consoles.
I can see it now, every STF, zillions of them damn things, and everyone of them mounting cannons. *smacks forehead*
but if you use all 3 of the consoles it will have a turn rate of 5 (the usual gimmick to sell a 3 pack)
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