my guess?
they did want to catch the may JJ film release, but
- weren't able to deliver a Starbase design/embassy in time
- replenishing their resources by selling us not only Romulan ships and costumes, but also leading new people to buy the old faction ships in the Zen store (as romulans will have access to the faction ships, but not vice versa)
- for every existing toon - a Romulan lockbox, perhaps a Suliban lockbox next
- letting Romulans grind for a foreign fleet, then letting them grind once more in a couple of months for their own fleet holdings = also cash
what will come next?
june, july - debugging
august - suliban lockbox
september - Romulan fleet holdings incoming - brace for impact
then, if Romulan model is a success = Cardassians in decebmer, or - ship revamp!
- adding a warp drive slot, some universal slots, next tier of ships which will be just upgrades from the existing ones (fleet ship modules - 5EUR/ship at least)
Unfortunately I think you are right 90%
I was thinking that probably the new movie will have a 2 faction romulan plot so in this way the game will come closer to movie that was the reason why romulans were split so new comers will be able to play the movie.We shall see in may what is the real reason why romulans were split between fed and kdf.
The 2 starbase grind it starts slowly to show it's teeth.
In this moment many if not almost each big fleet is closing to capping number so new romulan chars will have to grind new fed/kdf starbases from zero if the actual limit will not be doubled at least.
Lockboxes are not bad itself because they mean equal chance to both factions and for the forgotten kdf faction a chance to get comparable ships to what fed buy from c-store.Actually I would love a lockbox escort *hint * as good as fleet defiant and kumari so I could use it on my kdf char
"There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Heh, I've just had a thought. Cryptic/Devs stated that they didn't want the Romulans to have their own Starbase cause everyone will be trying to get that up to speed (which will in turn take away from already running Fleets). That much I understand, and I can see exactly where they're coming from.
However, answer me this; does it not also take a fair amount of time (and resources) to level up both the Omega and Romulan Reputations? Isn't that also going to take away from already existing fleets on both FED & KDF characters?
I don't believe the Romulan Starbase Excuse they're using with us. I figure it's pure laziness on their side. Want to prove me wrong? Answer the above question.
If WOW has this setup, then it's sure all other MMOs will follow it.
In my experience no MMO company ever wants to try anything original, they just follow the same tired old formulas.
But don't feel bad, If Cryptic didn't just follow the trends, there wouldn't be Mages in STO and while I feel that would be a major improvement, there are those who's entire playstyle revolves around the cheating only a Mage gets to do.
If that is the case I have several characters at Tier V for Romulan reputation. Who is going to buy it ever in the Zen Store? Going to get Rom marks though. We must be prepared, there might be a Tier VI.
Well, there are people who can't stand the grind-for-grind's-sake that is the rep system, like me. On the other hand, I'm not seeing the upside of signing on with the bunny-chasers just to make a new Fed or KDF alt with a green ship anyway, soo...
Heh, I've just had a thought. Cryptic/Devs stated that they didn't want the Romulans to have their own Starbase cause everyone will be trying to get that up to speed (which will in turn take away from already running Fleets). That much I understand, and I can see exactly where they're coming from.
However, answer me this; does it not also take a fair amount of time (and resources) to level up both the Omega and Romulan Reputations? Isn't that also going to take away from already existing fleets on both FED & KDF characters?
I don't believe the Romulan Starbase Excuse they're using with us. I figure it's pure laziness on their side. Want to prove me wrong? Answer the above question.
Heh, I've just had a thought. Cryptic/Devs stated that they didn't want the Romulans to have their own Starbase cause everyone will be trying to get that up to speed (which will in turn take away from already running Fleets). That much I understand, and I can see exactly where they're coming from.
However, answer me this; does it not also take a fair amount of time (and resources) to level up both the Omega and Romulan Reputations? Isn't that also going to take away from already existing fleets on both FED & KDF characters?
I don't believe the Romulan Starbase Excuse they're using with us. I figure it's pure laziness on their side. Want to prove me wrong? Answer the above question.
Yeah, but I'd put it in a different manner - I'll be happy to cooperate with Federation Captains in battles against the Tal'Shiar or Borg etc., at my own convenience, ofcourse.;)
I actually have no problem seeing the Republic as a separate faction regardless of the starbases.
Yes, I know. That's what I mean. I would have rather had a neutered experience similar to what the KDFs have been putting up with, if it meant that Romulans would be a REAL faction. This is just a new race. There is no new faction.
Whereas I prefer a faction with real storyline content, not just a monster play faction like the KDF currently is. I do play some KDF, but not nearly as much as Fed due to lack of episode content. Hopefully with the expansion, I'll have more incentive to play KDF.
also, after programming 40 lvls of PVE mission content - they are not able to get us a starbase/homeworld?!?
Perhaps because adding new story content does not hit the underlying game systems as much, is easier to do, and is less likely to cause major breaks in systems and gameplay mechanics?
New Romulus is the homeworld. We don't know what all will be available there from a faction standpoint. A lot of baseless (pardon the pun) assumptions are being made about the extent of the Romulan content and faction in these threads.
The fact is, we don't know enough yet to base our assumptions on, either way. While I am excited at new storyline content, I have no way of knowing what the new story is. For all I know, it will entail a lot of dailies and Adventure Zone space rabbit chasing, which would leave me disappointed as well.
That's why I am cautionously optimistic about the expansion, but not blindly passionate about it -- either pro or con. What I've seen thus far is encouraging to me, even with the limitations. It's far more than the KDF got up front, but lacking in some areas. I'm patient enough for those areas to be filled in over time.
which in itself does not conflict with the idea of a new unified Romulan Empire? Some Romulans over here, some over there, none in the middle and fighting each other under the banners of the Federation or the KDF?
And we have Klingons in the Federation right now fighting against the KDF, from day one of STO. How is this different from what has already been established in the game?
I agree that it is not idea. I would rather have a fully fleshed out faction myself. But I also understand that they can't change it at this point; they are too far along in development.
If they have a good story and fun gameplay (except for starbases), I'll enjoy it.
And you think Cryptic would make that mistake again after years of complaints about both that and the lack of content? After they said there would be no new faction until after the KDF was "complete" and that Stahl (in recent interviews and forum posts) did not view the KDF as complete?
Yes. I believe they are fully capable of making that mistake.
I think the implications favor my interpretation over your's in this case, although I will be reasonable and reserve judgment until I actually see what we get. I'm definitely hopeful, but not blind to the past either.
What counters your interpretation is that we've heard nothing at all about KDF content, except statements about a new tutorial. An announcement about new KDF content would be a "pretty big deal," so I find the absence of such an announcement conspicuous.
Consider me a cynical optimist; I hope for the best, but understand the worst may be lurking in the shadows.
I'm a cynical realist. I'll believe it when I see it.
Yeah, but I'd put it in a different manner - I'll be happy to cooperate with Federation Captains in battles against the Tal'Shiar or Borg etc., at my own convenience, ofcourse.;)
I actually have no problem seeing the Republic as a separate faction regardless of the starbases.
I agree the pandaria analogy is flawed. Romulans DON'T join the KDF or Feds. Instead they choose which side to help in the war. It is true that this makes them only partially autonomous as a faction, but they do have distinct assets that other factions don't.
I agree the pandaria analogy is flawed. Romulans DON'T join the KDF or Feds. Instead they choose which side to help in the war. It is true that this makes them only partially autonomous as a faction, but they do have distinct assets that other factions don't.
Like What? The Reputation items are available to anyone. There are plans to make Romulan ships drop from lockboxes, and FED/KDF players can be invited into Romulan episodes for their rewards. What exactly do Romulans have all to themselves? They don't even have their own starbases, for crying out loud!
After all of this hype for a faction, we are in effect getting a pseudofaction insofar as you must chose allegiance to KDF or FED, in effect just making another alt with Romulan costumes and ships.
*Vreenak.jpg*
I mean seriously - it just seems they desired to do a whole faction but realized there was just too much stuff to do; new doffs, new territory, new ships...new everything.
Like What? The Reputation items are available to anyone. There are plans to make Romulan ships drop from lockboxes, and FED/KDF players can be invited into Romulan episodes for their rewards. What exactly do Romulans have all to themselves? They don't even have their own starbases, for crying out loud!
Actually... Cross faction teaming doesn't always give access to the full rewards. Some rewards will be faction exclusive. I suppose a good example would be the gold Batleth you get for finishing the Fek'lhri story.
I agree I fell let down at the lapdogs we are getting they can call it what they want but at the end of the day you going to truly FED or KDF yes we get our own ships but why do we want them are not the Cstore ships and fleet ships going to be better ?
ok we get our own story from 1 to 40 some how I see KDF leveling mechanics I say this we will be lucky if we get 12 or more story mission that deals solely around romulans then they rest made up of picked say mission from fed's
again at the end of the day romulans are going to be lapdogs
After all of this hype for a faction, we are in effect getting a pseudofaction insofar as you must chose allegiance to KDF or FED, in effect just making another alt with Romulan costumes and ships and their own full story progression from 1 - 50, independent from and only superficially affected by choice of "allegiance".
*Vreenak.jpg*
I mean seriously - it just seems they desired to do a whole faction but realized there was just too much stuff to do; new doffs, new territory, new ships...new everything.
I must say I am frustrated.
Vreenak was right.
Thoughts?
Edited for slightly better accuracy.
I know what you mean, though. They got 3/4 through an actual faction and it feels like they just kinda stopped. Not that I hate the direction they went with, but they really couldn't have pushed it back another month or two and filled out DOffs and added more ships?
After all of this hype for a faction, we are in effect getting a pseudofaction insofar as you must chose allegiance to KDF or FED, in effect just making another alt with Romulan costumes and ships.
*Vreenak.jpg*
I mean seriously - it just seems they desired to do a whole faction but realized there was just too much stuff to do; new doffs, new territory, new ships...new everything.
I must say I am frustrated.
Vreenak was right.
Thoughts?
First thing I thought of when I saw the interview was that episode, lol.
I know what you mean, though. They got 3/4 through an actual faction and it feels like they just kinda stopped. Not that I hate the direction they went with, but they really couldn't have pushed it back another month or two and filled out DOffs and added more ships?
Keep in mind that they have also stated that they are reusign some of the KDF/Federation missions for the Romulan faction, and that the Reputation system episodes are considered to be part of this 1-50 content.
Since when are fleets and starbases a criterion for a Faction in-game?
It was obviously that the devs couldn't do everything at once.
The fleets and starbases are but a few of the thigns wrong here with the Romulan faction, it's the sum of all things here that is making so many people so upset. Cryptic must have a scientist at hand, because so many of their chocies seem scientifically designed to anger as many people as possible.
they got away with the worst faction in MMO history, the klingons. Feds didn't care and ignored it. Now that the romulans may top the Klingons are being the worst faction in MMO history, cryptic thinks they can get away with it again. This is what they always do.
And people thought KDF players were whinners.... green tears seem thicker...
TBH, this is a full faction... no SB (yet), so what? You will have access to all the equipment of your ALLY faction (note the word 'ally'). Wait until Feds and KDF complains they cannot have their hands on romulan gear and you will be all up in arms to keep their hands off them...
I know what you mean, though. They got 3/4 through an actual faction and it feels like they just kinda stopped. Not that I hate the direction they went with, but they really couldn't have pushed it back another month or two and filled out DOffs and added more ships?
I doubt that what you edited in will actually be the case. I'm not expecting much in the way of actual Romulan missions as opposed to recycles past the split.
And people thought KDF players were whinners.... green tears seem thicker...
TBH, this is a full faction... no SB (yet), so what? You will have access to all the equipment of your ALLY faction (note the word 'ally'). Wait until Feds and KDF complains they cannot have their hands on romulan gear and you will be all up in arms to keep their hands off them...
Just saying...
Jolan-tru
You cant have a full faction thats divided between two other factions. I wanted to be in a Romulan fleet , not be a Alt project for a existing Fed or KDF fleet.
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Unfortunately I think you are right 90%
I was thinking that probably the new movie will have a 2 faction romulan plot so in this way the game will come closer to movie that was the reason why romulans were split so new comers will be able to play the movie.We shall see in may what is the real reason why romulans were split between fed and kdf.
The 2 starbase grind it starts slowly to show it's teeth.
In this moment many if not almost each big fleet is closing to capping number so new romulan chars will have to grind new fed/kdf starbases from zero if the actual limit will not be doubled at least.
Lockboxes are not bad itself because they mean equal chance to both factions and for the forgotten kdf faction a chance to get comparable ships to what fed buy from c-store.Actually I would love a lockbox escort *hint * as good as fleet defiant and kumari so I could use it on my kdf char
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
However, answer me this; does it not also take a fair amount of time (and resources) to level up both the Omega and Romulan Reputations? Isn't that also going to take away from already existing fleets on both FED & KDF characters?
I don't believe the Romulan Starbase Excuse they're using with us. I figure it's pure laziness on their side. Want to prove me wrong? Answer the above question.
In my experience no MMO company ever wants to try anything original, they just follow the same tired old formulas.
But don't feel bad, If Cryptic didn't just follow the trends, there wouldn't be Mages in STO and while I feel that would be a major improvement, there are those who's entire playstyle revolves around the cheating only a Mage gets to do.
Well, there are people who can't stand the grind-for-grind's-sake that is the rep system, like me. On the other hand, I'm not seeing the upside of signing on with the bunny-chasers just to make a new Fed or KDF alt with a green ship anyway, soo...
I second this!
you have my vote so this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
system Lord Baal is dead
Yeah, but I'd put it in a different manner - I'll be happy to cooperate with Federation Captains in battles against the Tal'Shiar or Borg etc., at my own convenience, ofcourse.;)
I actually have no problem seeing the Republic as a separate faction regardless of the starbases.
Whereas I prefer a faction with real storyline content, not just a monster play faction like the KDF currently is. I do play some KDF, but not nearly as much as Fed due to lack of episode content. Hopefully with the expansion, I'll have more incentive to play KDF.
Perhaps because adding new story content does not hit the underlying game systems as much, is easier to do, and is less likely to cause major breaks in systems and gameplay mechanics?
New Romulus is the homeworld. We don't know what all will be available there from a faction standpoint. A lot of baseless (pardon the pun) assumptions are being made about the extent of the Romulan content and faction in these threads.
The fact is, we don't know enough yet to base our assumptions on, either way. While I am excited at new storyline content, I have no way of knowing what the new story is. For all I know, it will entail a lot of dailies and Adventure Zone space rabbit chasing, which would leave me disappointed as well.
That's why I am cautionously optimistic about the expansion, but not blindly passionate about it -- either pro or con. What I've seen thus far is encouraging to me, even with the limitations. It's far more than the KDF got up front, but lacking in some areas. I'm patient enough for those areas to be filled in over time.
If I choose to do it, then I will be assisting potential allies. I've no problem with that.
And we have Klingons in the Federation right now fighting against the KDF, from day one of STO. How is this different from what has already been established in the game?
I agree that it is not idea. I would rather have a fully fleshed out faction myself. But I also understand that they can't change it at this point; they are too far along in development.
If they have a good story and fun gameplay (except for starbases), I'll enjoy it.
What counters your interpretation is that we've heard nothing at all about KDF content, except statements about a new tutorial. An announcement about new KDF content would be a "pretty big deal," so I find the absence of such an announcement conspicuous.
I'm a cynical realist. I'll believe it when I see it.
Then it's even more pointless.
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this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with a
system Lord Baal is dead
My character Tsin'xing
system Lord Baal is dead
*Vreenak.jpg*
I mean seriously - it just seems they desired to do a whole faction but realized there was just too much stuff to do; new doffs, new territory, new ships...new everything.
I must say I am frustrated.
Vreenak was right.
Thoughts?
My character Tsin'xing
ok we get our own story from 1 to 40 some how I see KDF leveling mechanics I say this we will be lucky if we get 12 or more story mission that deals solely around romulans then they rest made up of picked say mission from fed's
again at the end of the day romulans are going to be lapdogs
system Lord Baal is dead
Edited for slightly better accuracy.
I know what you mean, though. They got 3/4 through an actual faction and it feels like they just kinda stopped. Not that I hate the direction they went with, but they really couldn't have pushed it back another month or two and filled out DOffs and added more ships?
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It was obviously that the devs couldn't do everything at once.
First thing I thought of when I saw the interview was that episode, lol.
Keep in mind that they have also stated that they are reusign some of the KDF/Federation missions for the Romulan faction, and that the Reputation system episodes are considered to be part of this 1-50 content.
The fleets and starbases are but a few of the thigns wrong here with the Romulan faction, it's the sum of all things here that is making so many people so upset. Cryptic must have a scientist at hand, because so many of their chocies seem scientifically designed to anger as many people as possible.
TBH, this is a full faction... no SB (yet), so what? You will have access to all the equipment of your ALLY faction (note the word 'ally'). Wait until Feds and KDF complains they cannot have their hands on romulan gear and you will be all up in arms to keep their hands off them...
Just saying...
Jolan-tru
I doubt that what you edited in will actually be the case. I'm not expecting much in the way of actual Romulan missions as opposed to recycles past the split.
You cant have a full faction thats divided between two other factions. I wanted to be in a Romulan fleet , not be a Alt project for a existing Fed or KDF fleet.