Thanks for that! VERY handy.
Looks like EDCs are the favoured item in conversion.
350 EDC alone gets a good chunk (like 80%) of me turning in around 500+ edc, 100 proto salvage, 40 rare salvage and 20 proto techs. (off the top of my head gets me about 4500 omega, 15BNP, 26k dil) I'll post my exact conversion inputs and outputs later when I can get back in game.
Since we've recently increased the cost in Neural Processors necessary to purchase items, we've just increased the number of Neural Processors that will be allotted to players in the conversion. You'll be getting approximately (but not exactly) twice as many as you're seeing on Tribble right now. Numbers are still in flux.
So twice of 7 is...8? That's what my boxes are telling me.
Ok so explain this one to me. I have so much STF loot b/c I have been trying since season 5 to get the damn proto PSG. I do 2 runs tonight of IGE and I get it both times. This is after complaining on here about the drop rate and submitting a bug report too lol. I think the drop rates were tweaked in this last patch.
Ok so explain this one to me. I have so much STF loot b/c I have been trying since season 5 to get the damn proto PSG. I do 2 runs tonight of IGE and I get it both times. This is after complaining on here about the drop rate and submitting a bug report too lol. I think the drop rates were tweaked in this last patch.
I must agree, I got TWO prototype tech today, maybe it's just pure luck, but I got an Engine for one toon, and a Shield for another.
Yesterday during KA day, I got a Prototype Armor for a toon who needed it, and one or two Rare armor techs, also for toons that needed it.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Ok so explain this one to me. I have so much STF loot b/c I have been trying since season 5 to get the damn proto PSG. I do 2 runs tonight of IGE and I get it both times. This is after complaining on here about the drop rate and submitting a bug report too lol. I think the drop rates were tweaked in this last patch.
The drop rates weren't tweaked. I've been trying my best to get a couple of my fleetmates their final set pieces before this conversion. Though congratulations on your good fortune.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010 "Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Since we've recently increased the cost in Neural Processors necessary to purchase items, we've just increased the number of Neural Processors that will be allotted to players in the conversion. You'll be getting approximately (but not exactly) twice as many as you're seeing on Tribble right now. Numbers are still in flux.
OMG.
Before
BNP 15
After the supposed twice as many!
BNP 22 :mad:
So I only got 7 extra BNP. That is only 1.46 times the amount before, and is no way near twice, it is in fact closer to 1 than 2. What a rip off. :mad: You would have thought that with the 15th coming they would be bending over backwards to keep players happy, even sweetening the pot. Not really a good business strategy you currently have Cryptic, is it!
Well sod this. There is nothing in Season 7 but grind, and the new content is just grind missions. What is the point of playing grind missions if 6 months latter you take the stuff away. I've been playing STO for nearly 3 years and had hoped to play until its end. Well when season 7 hits I will be spending most of my time and all my spare money in a Galaxy Far Far Away. :P
If you mean OM:BNP:Ore 1EDC will equal 1 proto tech.
Yes that's correct unless the 'tweak' has suddenly given us what we want, wihch it won't. Unless Cryptic do something drastic everyone would be better ofdf converting everything to Ore.
Then when the dilithium market gets over the shock of the excess dilithium, Cryptic will go "oh look there's too much dilithium lying around, let's tax/add another sink, raise costs/remove ways or not make new ways of getting dilithium."
Those that did convert and/or have large reserves way well be okay for a while providing no more currency conversions. Those with little/no dilithium will get screwed as they'll have no reserves to fall back on and harder means of getting what they want.
If you mean OM:BNP:Ore 1EDC will equal 1 proto tech.
Yes that's correct unless the 'tweak' has suddenly given us what we want, wihch it won't. Unless Cryptic do something drastic everyone would be better ofdf converting everything to Ore.
Then when the dilithium market gets over the shock of the excess dilithium, Cryptic will go "oh look there's too much dilithium lying around, let's tax/add another sink, raise costs/remove ways or not make new ways of getting dilithium."
Those that did convert and/or have large reserves way well be okay for a while providing no more currency conversions. Those with little/no dilithium will get screwed as they'll have no reserves to fall back on and harder means of getting what they want.
I already have. I converted all my tech etc leaving a few edc and salvage over.
Means I wont have to grind for Dilithium for a while
Cryptic will go "oh look there's too much dilithium lying around, let's tax/add another sink, raise costs/remove ways or not make new ways of getting dilithium."
They already have by removing the quick to complete foundry missions from the daily officer report mission. When i tried them on tribble the romulan pve missions (vault and azure nebula) didnt grant dilithium either meaning if you want to grind romulan rep its going to be a lot harder than grinding omega rep (stfs do grant dilithium at a reduced rate).
Here are my latest numbers:
1st PROTO 2nd RARE
ship shield 4 7
ship engine 1 3
ship defelctor 2 0
personal sheild 0 7
personal weapon 0 4
personal armor 1 8
proto salvage 108
Rare salvare 156
EDC 402
crate came in as
4500 omega,
20 BNP,
24k dilithium
5 more then last time on the BNP but all other numbers seem to be the same.
Here's what I started with on my hardcore grinder:
451 Encrypted Data Chips
82 Rare Borg Salvage
50 Prototype Borg Salvage
3 Rare Borg Shield Tech
8 Rare Borg Engine Tech
2 Rare Borg Deflector Tech
2 Rare Borg Armor Tech
2 Rare Borg Weapon Tech
On Tribble this coverts to:
4000 Omega Marks
18 Borg Neuro Processors
16000 Dilithium Ore.
If I went to DS9 to turn it into Dilithium now I'd get... 267264 Dilithium ore.
Just transfered a toon across to tribble to see what's going to be delivered on Tuesday and compare what I could get for it now. Hiding in my bank is :
1 Proto tech
13 Proto salvage
16 Rare tech
20 Rare salvage
1 Common tech
120 EDC
Which converts into :
3000 Omega marks
14 Processors
4000 Dilithium
At the minute will convert to 84,000 Dilithium, so 3000 marks & 14 processors = 80,000 Dilithium. That's not taking the p*** it's taking the whole sewage system.
Just transfered a toon across to tribble to see what's going to be delivered on Tuesday and compare what I could get for it now. Hiding in my bank is :
1 Proto tech
13 Proto salvage
16 Rare tech
20 Rare salvage
1 Common tech
120 EDC
Which converts into :
3000 Omega marks
14 Processors
4000 Dilithium
At the minute will convert to 84,000 Dilithium, so 3000 marks & 14 processors = 80,000 Dilithium. That's not taking the p*** it's taking the whole sewage system.
So what did everyone else get?
How much dilithium would all those marks etc convert into through the reputation system conversion projects?
How much dilithium would all those marks etc convert into through the reputation system conversion projects?
Well all of that stuff it doesn't give enough to produce one piece of XII gear, considering there the is proto space tech that's not on.
Just looking at the tech items, ignoring salvage and edc's, to construct all of those in S7 it will take :
11,625 Omega Marks
10 Neural Processers
301,000 Dilithium
768,000 Expertise
Now I wouldn't totally object to a small depreciation with the conversion, because there is a flexibility gained from moving to the new system, BUT the conversion including the salavage & edc's will cost me 75% of the OM required, 98.7% of the Dilthium required, 100% of the Expertise required. OK so there's a 40% gain on Procesors but that hardly balances out overall.
If it was 10% cut I could live with that, but this is closer to a 80% cut which is taking the TRIBBLE.
Comments
A couple of posts up
9 Prototype tech
10 Rare tech
gets converted to
4000 Omega Marks, 18 BNP and 16k dil.
Seems like salvages are best to sell off for dil.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Looks like they lifted the 15 BNP hard limit.
So twice of 7 is...8? That's what my boxes are telling me.
How does that make any sense?
I must agree, I got TWO prototype tech today, maybe it's just pure luck, but I got an Engine for one toon, and a Shield for another.
Yesterday during KA day, I got a Prototype Armor for a toon who needed it, and one or two Rare armor techs, also for toons that needed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation
The drop rates weren't tweaked. I've been trying my best to get a couple of my fleetmates their final set pieces before this conversion. Though congratulations on your good fortune.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
OMG.
Before
BNP 15
After the supposed twice as many!
BNP 22 :mad:
So I only got 7 extra BNP. That is only 1.46 times the amount before, and is no way near twice, it is in fact closer to 1 than 2. What a rip off. :mad: You would have thought that with the 15th coming they would be bending over backwards to keep players happy, even sweetening the pot. Not really a good business strategy you currently have Cryptic, is it!
Well sod this. There is nothing in Season 7 but grind, and the new content is just grind missions. What is the point of playing grind missions if 6 months latter you take the stuff away. I've been playing STO for nearly 3 years and had hoped to play until its end. Well when season 7 hits I will be spending most of my time and all my spare money in a Galaxy Far Far Away. :P
Vornek@oberlerchner123 - Join Date: July 2008
Yes that's correct unless the 'tweak' has suddenly given us what we want, wihch it won't. Unless Cryptic do something drastic everyone would be better ofdf converting everything to Ore.
Then when the dilithium market gets over the shock of the excess dilithium, Cryptic will go "oh look there's too much dilithium lying around, let's tax/add another sink, raise costs/remove ways or not make new ways of getting dilithium."
Those that did convert and/or have large reserves way well be okay for a while providing no more currency conversions. Those with little/no dilithium will get screwed as they'll have no reserves to fall back on and harder means of getting what they want.
I already have. I converted all my tech etc leaving a few edc and salvage over.
Means I wont have to grind for Dilithium for a while
They already have by removing the quick to complete foundry missions from the daily officer report mission. When i tried them on tribble the romulan pve missions (vault and azure nebula) didnt grant dilithium either meaning if you want to grind romulan rep its going to be a lot harder than grinding omega rep (stfs do grant dilithium at a reduced rate).
547 EDCs
105 Proto salvage
24 Prototype tech
53 Rare salvage
gets converted to
4500 Omega Marks, 20 BNP and 24k dil.
I go from being able to buy 24 set piece parts to less than 5.
Looks like I'll be selling off for dilithium most of it.
Toon 2
89 EDCs
3 Proto salvage
2 Prototype tech
7 Rare salvage
gets converted to
2000 Omega Marks, 10 BNP and 2k dil.
1st PROTO 2nd RARE
ship shield 4 7
ship engine 1 3
ship defelctor 2 0
personal sheild 0 7
personal weapon 0 4
personal armor 1 8
proto salvage 108
Rare salvare 156
EDC 402
crate came in as
4500 omega,
20 BNP,
24k dilithium
5 more then last time on the BNP but all other numbers seem to be the same.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
There isn't one as far as I know....
Really ?
So those 20 or so I have saved up for my mk12 upgrade will be stolen by crooktic ?
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I have not seen anything official anyways. By that I mean no post or dev blog stating that those will be included or converted at all.
I could be wrong, If someone else knows please do tell?
Antilles:
Loot:
- 1 EDC, 1 Rare Salvage
Converts to:- 250 Omega marks, 2 Neural Processor.
Rygo:Loot:
- 11 EDCs
Converts to:- 1000 Omega marks, 6 Neural Processors.
Omega:Loot:
- 15 EDCs, 3 Rare Salvage
Converts to:- 1000 Omega Marks, 6 Neural Processors.
Illusion:Loot:
- 1 EDC
Converts to:Tiered conversion strikes again... 3 Rare Salvage and 5 EDCs are worthless.
451 Encrypted Data Chips
82 Rare Borg Salvage
50 Prototype Borg Salvage
3 Rare Borg Shield Tech
8 Rare Borg Engine Tech
2 Rare Borg Deflector Tech
2 Rare Borg Armor Tech
2 Rare Borg Weapon Tech
On Tribble this coverts to:
4000 Omega Marks
18 Borg Neuro Processors
16000 Dilithium Ore.
If I went to DS9 to turn it into Dilithium now I'd get... 267264 Dilithium ore.
they also got converted now
i had 91x Reman Datalogs and i got 455 Romulan Marks for it
1 Proto tech
13 Proto salvage
16 Rare tech
20 Rare salvage
1 Common tech
120 EDC
Which converts into :
3000 Omega marks
14 Processors
4000 Dilithium
At the minute will convert to 84,000 Dilithium, so 3000 marks & 14 processors = 80,000 Dilithium. That's not taking the p*** it's taking the whole sewage system.
So what did everyone else get?
EDC's might be worth it for borg marks ?
Everything else you get robbed ?
The conclusion, buy one of those rubber ring cushions because you ain't gonna be able to sit down properly after they're through "converting" you.
Well what about the EDC's, just lose a little energy credits for marks ?
How much dilithium would all those marks etc convert into through the reputation system conversion projects?
Well all of that stuff it doesn't give enough to produce one piece of XII gear, considering there the is proto space tech that's not on.
Just looking at the tech items, ignoring salvage and edc's, to construct all of those in S7 it will take :
11,625 Omega Marks
10 Neural Processers
301,000 Dilithium
768,000 Expertise
Now I wouldn't totally object to a small depreciation with the conversion, because there is a flexibility gained from moving to the new system, BUT the conversion including the salavage & edc's will cost me 75% of the OM required, 98.7% of the Dilthium required, 100% of the Expertise required. OK so there's a 40% gain on Procesors but that hardly balances out overall.
If it was 10% cut I could live with that, but this is closer to a 80% cut which is taking the TRIBBLE.