Just another proof that you don't give a damn about player loyalty...
You at least could have waited another 100 days to put the ship up for everyone, so we had the ship for ourselfs for a bit. But no!
Haven't bought a single thing in your precious zstore for a while because you keep abusing your playerbase, and this move will not change that anytime soon.
This is what's known as an analogy, using terminology that is familiar to forums the world over. If I was addressing a business forum I would have chosen words from a different vocabulary subset.
Once again the point about Cryptic sticking to their word is BS, they are a company in this business to make money, that is their and ALL OTHER BUSINESSES only goal, to make money now and in the future. Nowhere in the Eula does it say you will be guaranteed to get X, Y & Z. It's a game trying to survive in an extremely competitive marketplace, this "it's not fair" and "we've waited so long" etc just makes you and others sound like spoilt little kids with no appreciation for how businesses or the real world works. Hence the grow up remark.
I wouldn't be the one telling people to grow up since all you have done is troll this thread constantly saying blah, business, blah money , its about business ethics and they stepped over the line, no respect for their customers who stayed loyal to them for all this time and get the shaft, would you like it if the government came into your house and took all of your things and gave them to everyone else cause they thought they were entitled to it all of a sudden?
How about putting MK XII gear into the Zen store ? Or pay to unlock all the accolades? Are you ok with that too just because it's a business? Do you not have any moral standards when it comes to things or is it just all about the money? What competition are you speaking of there is only 3 sci-fi MMOs one tanked miserably TOR, EVE is for the sandbox true freedom crowd, and Star Trek is for people who like Trek what other competition are you speaking of?
And as for this promotion this is like the NGE in Star Wars Galaxies all over again , TRIBBLE over vets to cater to crybabies who felt they were entitled to Jedi without having to work for it, dumb the game down, cause the crybabies thought it was too HARD.
I doubt those who buy keys with zen and kept the whole lockbox scandal afloat some time back, but that's my own bias.
Not only your own. I bet majority feels the same.
As I said before, I'm not LTS (yet) but did buy zen (used for doff rooster and inventory space). There is no way or chance I'd ever buy a key for zen or for EC and all those boxes that drop instead of real items I simply remove from inventory instead of putting them on exchange, being utterly disgusted by all those box offers I'm seeing there.
Bad business? Think whatever you want about me, but doing Cryptic's job by selling boxes to ppl who want them it's not moral and it definetly doesn't fit into my roleplaying style.
I'll never understand why Crypric invented the whole box/key idiocy instead of putting boxes in the C-store under "Pay2Win" category. And I'll support everyone who says that the boxes charade should be removed from the game. But here's the bad news - boxes and keys are totally offtopic here, this thread is about LTS.
This incentive is a slap in the face for every veteran gold member which is not a lifetimer.
My personal counter says 979 days now. Since then I am a monthly subscriber. This leads me to one question:
Where are the benefits for us loyal recurring paying subscribers??
We've paid already more money than every longterm lifetimer.
This is a Great offer - but adding a T5 connie to all the new LTS as a special ship just for them would be even better! Old LTS would need to re-purchase to be eligable:cool:
This incentive is a slap in the face for every veteran gold member which is not a lifetimer.
My personal counter says 979 days now. Since then I am a monthly subscriber. This leads me to one question:
Where are the benefits for us loyal recurring paying subscribers??
We've paid already more money than every longterm lifetimer.
Every? What about guys who subscribed then bought a lifetime like me? Plus all the C-store stuff I bought.
The benefits you're getting are the same afforded to everyone who's paid for a lifetime or subscribed long enough to get a vet reward.
They want to provide incentive to buying Lifetime subscriptions as well as reward those who've taken a big monetary risk in paying 250 up front.
I was wondering why it took so long for the doom sayers to show up. All we need now is a T5 Connie post and we can meet our STO quota for over used topic posts.
Of course we're doomed that's why Dan is talking about stuff we'll see in Season 9 and beyond.
Yep, because season 9 will happen in 1000+ days.
Actually now that you mention it, that sounds about right.
This 'offer' really shows how much PWE understands the concept of 'subscribing'....PWE only knows F2P,and that means 'if you fork over a wad of cash we'll give you instant gratification'. PWE's F2P does have a striking resemblance to 'you'll get something without having to wine and dine as long as you have money honey'....
The PWE/Cryptic sweatshop...not where the game is made,but where the game is played!
Take back your home,end the grind!
Volunteer moderators policing the forums is like a mall cop trying to solve a murder.
I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, I'm very happy to get the rewards, on the other, I'm a little disappointed that Veteran Rewards don't necessarily show how long you've been loyal to the game for any more.
I think the early access to the rewards just swing it for me.
I have been playing for 958 days.Never went f2p,still paying.Now anyone who is a lifer,what ever that means in a video game,can get 1000 day rewards even if they just joined two days ago.Thanks guys,my time and effort to earn my 1000 day reward was just crapped on.Lifers who have been in game for a while maybe that should be extended to them,and maybe people like me,a month and change to go,hey why not?THE 1000 DAY REWARD HAS BEEN CHEAPENED! And wont mean anything when mine arrives now that this has been done.
Shawn Oreilly 150th Assault Fleet
Has anyone noticed that this will effectively end any future additions to the vet reward program? There is no point in adding a 1100 day reward if LTS' will get it instantly.
Moreover, while I am happy for my fleetmates who will now get instant access to the same rewards as me, it does make me feel like I wasted my time for the past few years as LTS is cheaper now and gives instant access to everything.
Kobayashi Maru
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Dec '07 Account I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
I first heard about this in game but I thought to myself that it couldn't be true, turns out it is. I'm disappointed even though I have a LTS I feel bad for all the subscribers that have been here since the beggining of the game and had to wait for their rewards.
Now I just logged in to the game and now I'm a 700 day Veteran. It doesn't make any sense. I was just a few days away from being 300. Sure I couldn't wait to get the rewards but I was willing to wait just like everybody else. This doesn't seem fair. The LTS pay more and it's a nice thing but couldn't they have come up with something else? What about the players that keep paying every month: What will they get now? There is no reason to pay monthly anymore. Even if with this they probably thought that since people are a few days from receveing their 1000 day award they will keep paying it's still ungreatful. It may lead people to buy this and keep people in the game for awhile but, you still need those monthly subs. Give them something too, please. Make people want to be a gold member or have more restricted content for F2P that gold members can have access too like missions. I don't know... just a rant.
*Edit* Give regular subscribers something UNIQUE. Going around with a "700 day vet" on my character seems fake and colecting the rewards won't be something I was looking forward to if I had waited.
Of course we're doomed that's why Dan is talking about stuff we'll see in Season 9 and beyond.
I sit here and postulate what I'll be doing in the year 2100 sometimes. That doesn't mean I am guaranteed to be around then let alone tomorrow. Every day is a gift.
That being said I thought about this for awhile and I think it is ridiculous, especially to the lifers who have been around since day 1. I can be a complete newbie and buy a LTS today and all of a sudden I have all of the 'veteran' rewards a day 1 player has, to include a forum title stating they are a 'veteran'. Totally heinous. Cryptic, please go to Merriam-Webster.com and look up 'veteran'. Apparently your understanding of the term is on par with your understanding of other terms such as 'uniform' and 'canon'.
Concepts like 'veteran' become void when 'lifetime' itself nullifies the notion of progressed time, as it were. Seen from that perspective, the idea of 'hanging in there for X amount of time' becomes meaningless within that paradigm, as you are already subscribed for life upfront. Reasoned further along those lines, you could thus argue that you are effectively equally eligible to redeem your 'veteran' status at purchase as you are a 1,000 days later.
Wow, thanks for nothing! I subed from day one up to July of last year and bought my LTS then. Now a bunch of newbs can just buy it for cheap and get everything I had to wait for. Granted I was only 20 days from this post from getting 1000 days and was a bit happy about it. But now I'm ticked after reading what you've done. You now have shown that you no longer support the long term players at all by giving those who did not earn it or a have any right to it, up front, day one of their purchase. They all should have to wait period! I will not be changing my forum title until I earn it.
As for the ship. Was impressed, but now I will never fly it again.:mad:
City Of Heroes (closing on 11/30/12 - but had an 8 year run - efforts to save it continuing)
World of ******** (8 years)
So, yeah, MMOs can go on WAY past 6 years. It's not that uncommon. As for STO - as long as the JJ Abrams Star Trek film series is chugging along, I don't see CBS pulling the plug on STO as it affords them both a revenue stream and built in advertising that they can cross bill with Paramount (they had a cross promotion with the first film when it released.) The cast signed a 3 film deal, and unless the second film really tanks, I think we'll see a third, meaning this game probably has a minimum of 5 years remaining from today, if not more.
OK, I'll concede the point that there are still MMO's around that are older than 6 years, but in your opinion is STO comparable to those in quality and gameplay ?
...Sorry for my outburst yesterday, I just found it rather petty that most posts criticized PWE's decision to reward the new LTS purchasers with the same items the old LTS'ers are getting. Seems the old LTS'ers forgot about the years of gameplay they enjoyed while claiming they purchased their LTS so they would get toys nobody else had. Too bad for them there's no forum to show off their exclusive toys to those that don't have them.
Concepts like 'veteran' become void when 'lifetime' itself nullifies the notion of progressed time, as it were. Seen from that perspective, the idea of 'hanging in there for X amount of time' becomes meaningless within that paradigm, as you are already subscribed for life upfront. Reasoned further along those lines, you could thus argue that you are effectively equally eligible to redeem your 'veteran' status at purchase as you are a 1,000 days later.
I totally understand what you are alluding to here as well. However there is the fact that a lot of us have been here putting in that time and were stuck behind a time gate until we could get our 'veteran' rewards. Then one day along comes Cryptic waving their magic wand saying everyone can have what others had to wait for under one condition - you give us $$$ now plz.
I was trying to read all the posts, but I ran out of the cheese for all this whining. Anyhow, I'm a subscriber from Feb 2010, and been playing almost daily since. On May 2010, I decided to buy the LTS, not because any reward that I could get, but because it meant I did not had to pay the subscription anymore regardless of any future price change. And people forget what LTS is for. You are just paying your subscription in advanced, noting more. The perk with this offer is that after a while, in 35 months in my case, I get my money back (299.00 at that moment) and I start earning $5.00 every month from that moment on that I can use to buy stuff in game. A week ago I hit my 900 day mark, so I got my 1000 day reward like 90 days earlier. I'm upset if my friends get the same thing, but he bought the LTS a few days ago? Absolutely no, because this is just an incentive for getting the LTS now. Regular subscribers will have to wait. So really the only thing I have to say to Cryptic is "thanks for giving me the ship early". Again, if you do not like it, there is a lot MMOs out there, quit the game. After all, it's just a game...
Remember that PWE never saw any profit from your LTS before they took over. To them are you just a F2P account with a stipend. This new perk is for people who joined after PWE took over and are disappointed at the prospect of waiting three years to get the cool new ship, BOff, and others.
The timing is great for new LTS with the launch of the new ship and the completion of the vet rewards table. Another hidden perk is the value over time for LTS which, if calculated correctly, actually didn't mature until after 3 years. Now the value over time makes this an amazingly good investment, even if you are going to play for a year. It effectively nullifies the advantages gold subs had over LTS since F2P started.
Kobayashi Maru
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Meh, those of you who know me as Varrangian know I've been here a long time, but this is no skin off my back. The only problem I have is that this seems like the Vet rewards are going to go away.
I do really feel the 1000 veterans pain, they waited 1000 days to get this ship and it must feel like the rug has been pulled out from under them.
However, as a 650 day lts vet myself, I am happy about not having to wait those extra 300 odd days.
Lts is actually worth buying now. Not only you get the borg playable character, 500 zen per month and no monthly sub, but you also now get all the veteran extras up front.
From a business standpoint right now, it makes sense.
The main problem here is everyone thinks time equals loyalty/veteran. When it doesn't. Saying you EARNED your rewards isn't really the truth either. You PAID for those rewards.
F2P players get nothing. Even if they play for the next 10 years they will get nothing. So if you don't pay does that mean you are not loyal or a veteran player?
LTS players are 100% guaranteed to get ALL the rewards. That is set in stone. Why make them wait? Time does not make someone a veteran. Someone could have bought a LTS at the beginning and not like the game and quit for awhile. If they decide to come back 1000 days later - they would get those rewards just like they have been here. So what is the difference? They didn't play the game for 999 days came back and still got the rewards. They are now a veteran because they had to wait to get the rewards????....That doesn't make sense to me.
Another thing is I don't get is monthly suscribers (I am one) complaining. It is nobodys fault but your own if you have been subscribed for the past 2 or 3 years and never thought about getting a LTS. Simple math really. If you knew you were going to play longer then 19months then you should have bought a LTS. I subscribed monthly because I didn't have $299 to fork over on the game. With it only being 199 that might be a differnet story.
Lastly, nothing was taken away from ANYONE. We all have the SAME veteran rewards. You want them all right now? Then pay for the LTS. Saying that time (1000 days) makes someone a veteran or loyal is very misleading. You may be subscribed for 999 days, but that doesn't mean you played, logged in, or gained any skill (a Veteran).
Even before this update I have seen several 700 Day players not even a vice admiral yet. Guess it could be a 2nd toon on their account, but that just goes back to:
subscription = money = veteran rewards.
They don't have to play on that new toon to get 700 days on it. A 700 - 1000 day "veteran" means nothing to me about loyalty or even being a veteran. Just means you paid cash for 700 days.
What did us Vets earn, what did we do.....I could have easily not spent a single dime on this game at all after I got my LTS, I got free ships I got EC back in the day to buy new ships, did not really do much...Then after F2P they made it even easier for me not to spend money now they gave me a way to get stuff just by grinding, and since I was a LTS I did not even have to rush at grinds< i could just take my sweet time, and let me $5 a month and grind money accumulate.
So if vets want to say Oh we supported the game and everything, then lets reward everyone who spent money in this game, for every 100 bucks you spent you get something shiny for those are truly the players that supported the game the ones who spent money, not LTS from beta who could have sat around and do nothing.
when the monkey came out, all i saw was...ewww crappy monkey, now it's no no don't give my crappy money to him.
It's not like Cryptic took my Monkey and gave it to the KDF for a rug.
While I can see and understand all of the hatred going on here, I can't help but think this is a good thing overall.
Now let me give some context here:
Played in the Beta
Purchased the Digital Deluxe version and have purchased a number of the retail specific boxes as well
Subbed off-and-on pre-and-post F2P
Accrued sub time to earn the 400-Day Vet Rewards
Spent at least $50-$75 on top of Subs in the C/Z-Store
Honestly, if I had the $200/$300 right now, I'd pop for a LTS for this game. I don't even play it enough normally to justify that kind of expenditure.
It's that fact I'd get the 500/600/700/800 day Rewards that, I feel would make the expenditure worth while. And the things is, I'd still would be spending extra in the Store for services on top of that. And STO isn't my main game! My main game is ending at the end of November (CoH)! And I doubt the STO will take it's place.
I just feel there is enough 'value' in what the LTS offers now that it will be worth it to a number of players (even at the usual $300).
Thank you for the time...
STO CBT Player - 400 day+ Vet, Currently Silver
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple:
Full, Story-driven, select from start 1-50 Klingon Side
Scrap current Lock Box & Lobi system for something more reasonable
Expand Dil and Rep/Fleet Marks to regular story content
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Just another proof that you don't give a damn about player loyalty...
You at least could have waited another 100 days to put the ship up for everyone, so we had the ship for ourselfs for a bit. But no!
Haven't bought a single thing in your precious zstore for a while because you keep abusing your playerbase, and this move will not change that anytime soon.
I wouldn't be the one telling people to grow up since all you have done is troll this thread constantly saying blah, business, blah money , its about business ethics and they stepped over the line, no respect for their customers who stayed loyal to them for all this time and get the shaft, would you like it if the government came into your house and took all of your things and gave them to everyone else cause they thought they were entitled to it all of a sudden?
How about putting MK XII gear into the Zen store ? Or pay to unlock all the accolades? Are you ok with that too just because it's a business? Do you not have any moral standards when it comes to things or is it just all about the money? What competition are you speaking of there is only 3 sci-fi MMOs one tanked miserably TOR, EVE is for the sandbox true freedom crowd, and Star Trek is for people who like Trek what other competition are you speaking of?
And as for this promotion this is like the NGE in Star Wars Galaxies all over again , TRIBBLE over vets to cater to crybabies who felt they were entitled to Jedi without having to work for it, dumb the game down, cause the crybabies thought it was too HARD.
As I said before, I'm not LTS (yet) but did buy zen (used for doff rooster and inventory space). There is no way or chance I'd ever buy a key for zen or for EC and all those boxes that drop instead of real items I simply remove from inventory instead of putting them on exchange, being utterly disgusted by all those box offers I'm seeing there.
Bad business? Think whatever you want about me, but doing Cryptic's job by selling boxes to ppl who want them it's not moral and it definetly doesn't fit into my roleplaying style.
I'll never understand why Crypric invented the whole box/key idiocy instead of putting boxes in the C-store under "Pay2Win" category. And I'll support everyone who says that the boxes charade should be removed from the game. But here's the bad news - boxes and keys are totally offtopic here, this thread is about LTS.
My personal counter says 979 days now. Since then I am a monthly subscriber. This leads me to one question:
Where are the benefits for us loyal recurring paying subscribers??
We've paid already more money than every longterm lifetimer.
Original join date: Jul 2008
Does not seem to work...
Every? What about guys who subscribed then bought a lifetime like me? Plus all the C-store stuff I bought.
The benefits you're getting are the same afforded to everyone who's paid for a lifetime or subscribed long enough to get a vet reward.
They want to provide incentive to buying Lifetime subscriptions as well as reward those who've taken a big monetary risk in paying 250 up front.
That is fine.
Actually now that you mention it, that sounds about right.
Take back your home,end the grind!
Volunteer moderators policing the forums is like a mall cop trying to solve a murder.
I think the early access to the rewards just swing it for me.
Shawn Oreilly 150th Assault Fleet
Moreover, while I am happy for my fleetmates who will now get instant access to the same rewards as me, it does make me feel like I wasted my time for the past few years as LTS is cheaper now and gives instant access to everything.
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Because everyone knows regular Gold subbers don't exist.
I Support Disco | Disco is Love | Disco is Life
Way to slap your 1000 day vets in the face! :mad:
Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
Now I just logged in to the game and now I'm a 700 day Veteran. It doesn't make any sense. I was just a few days away from being 300. Sure I couldn't wait to get the rewards but I was willing to wait just like everybody else. This doesn't seem fair. The LTS pay more and it's a nice thing but couldn't they have come up with something else? What about the players that keep paying every month: What will they get now? There is no reason to pay monthly anymore. Even if with this they probably thought that since people are a few days from receveing their 1000 day award they will keep paying it's still ungreatful. It may lead people to buy this and keep people in the game for awhile but, you still need those monthly subs. Give them something too, please. Make people want to be a gold member or have more restricted content for F2P that gold members can have access too like missions. I don't know... just a rant.
*Edit* Give regular subscribers something UNIQUE. Going around with a "700 day vet" on my character seems fake and colecting the rewards won't be something I was looking forward to if I had waited.
I sit here and postulate what I'll be doing in the year 2100 sometimes. That doesn't mean I am guaranteed to be around then let alone tomorrow. Every day is a gift.
That being said I thought about this for awhile and I think it is ridiculous, especially to the lifers who have been around since day 1. I can be a complete newbie and buy a LTS today and all of a sudden I have all of the 'veteran' rewards a day 1 player has, to include a forum title stating they are a 'veteran'. Totally heinous. Cryptic, please go to Merriam-Webster.com and look up 'veteran'. Apparently your understanding of the term is on par with your understanding of other terms such as 'uniform' and 'canon'.
Yes, they should be changed to 'Lifer Perks' or some variant of that, but to continue to call them 'veteran rewards' is now sort of exasperating.
Concepts like 'veteran' become void when 'lifetime' itself nullifies the notion of progressed time, as it were. Seen from that perspective, the idea of 'hanging in there for X amount of time' becomes meaningless within that paradigm, as you are already subscribed for life upfront. Reasoned further along those lines, you could thus argue that you are effectively equally eligible to redeem your 'veteran' status at purchase as you are a 1,000 days later.
As for the ship. Was impressed, but now I will never fly it again.:mad:
OK, I'll concede the point that there are still MMO's around that are older than 6 years, but in your opinion is STO comparable to those in quality and gameplay ?
...Sorry for my outburst yesterday, I just found it rather petty that most posts criticized PWE's decision to reward the new LTS purchasers with the same items the old LTS'ers are getting. Seems the old LTS'ers forgot about the years of gameplay they enjoyed while claiming they purchased their LTS so they would get toys nobody else had. Too bad for them there's no forum to show off their exclusive toys to those that don't have them.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I totally understand what you are alluding to here as well. However there is the fact that a lot of us have been here putting in that time and were stuck behind a time gate until we could get our 'veteran' rewards. Then one day along comes Cryptic waving their magic wand saying everyone can have what others had to wait for under one condition - you give us $$$ now plz.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The timing is great for new LTS with the launch of the new ship and the completion of the vet rewards table. Another hidden perk is the value over time for LTS which, if calculated correctly, actually didn't mature until after 3 years. Now the value over time makes this an amazingly good investment, even if you are going to play for a year. It effectively nullifies the advantages gold subs had over LTS since F2P started.
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
By the way how do I change my title?
However, as a 650 day lts vet myself, I am happy about not having to wait those extra 300 odd days.
Lts is actually worth buying now. Not only you get the borg playable character, 500 zen per month and no monthly sub, but you also now get all the veteran extras up front.
From a business standpoint right now, it makes sense.
F2P players get nothing. Even if they play for the next 10 years they will get nothing. So if you don't pay does that mean you are not loyal or a veteran player?
LTS players are 100% guaranteed to get ALL the rewards. That is set in stone. Why make them wait? Time does not make someone a veteran. Someone could have bought a LTS at the beginning and not like the game and quit for awhile. If they decide to come back 1000 days later - they would get those rewards just like they have been here. So what is the difference? They didn't play the game for 999 days came back and still got the rewards. They are now a veteran because they had to wait to get the rewards????....That doesn't make sense to me.
Another thing is I don't get is monthly suscribers (I am one) complaining. It is nobodys fault but your own if you have been subscribed for the past 2 or 3 years and never thought about getting a LTS. Simple math really. If you knew you were going to play longer then 19months then you should have bought a LTS. I subscribed monthly because I didn't have $299 to fork over on the game. With it only being 199 that might be a differnet story.
Lastly, nothing was taken away from ANYONE. We all have the SAME veteran rewards. You want them all right now? Then pay for the LTS. Saying that time (1000 days) makes someone a veteran or loyal is very misleading. You may be subscribed for 999 days, but that doesn't mean you played, logged in, or gained any skill (a Veteran).
Even before this update I have seen several 700 Day players not even a vice admiral yet. Guess it could be a 2nd toon on their account, but that just goes back to:
subscription = money = veteran rewards.
They don't have to play on that new toon to get 700 days on it. A 700 - 1000 day "veteran" means nothing to me about loyalty or even being a veteran. Just means you paid cash for 700 days.
Suddenly that brief moment of "hurray" does not mean very much.
And no I am not being sarcastic or mean. *Sigh, changes they are a happenin'*
So if vets want to say Oh we supported the game and everything, then lets reward everyone who spent money in this game, for every 100 bucks you spent you get something shiny for those are truly the players that supported the game the ones who spent money, not LTS from beta who could have sat around and do nothing.
when the monkey came out, all i saw was...ewww crappy monkey, now it's no no don't give my crappy money to him.
It's not like Cryptic took my Monkey and gave it to the KDF for a rug.
Now let me give some context here:
Played in the Beta
Purchased the Digital Deluxe version and have purchased a number of the retail specific boxes as well
Subbed off-and-on pre-and-post F2P
Accrued sub time to earn the 400-Day Vet Rewards
Spent at least $50-$75 on top of Subs in the C/Z-Store
Honestly, if I had the $200/$300 right now, I'd pop for a LTS for this game. I don't even play it enough normally to justify that kind of expenditure.
It's that fact I'd get the 500/600/700/800 day Rewards that, I feel would make the expenditure worth while. And the things is, I'd still would be spending extra in the Store for services on top of that. And STO isn't my main game! My main game is ending at the end of November (CoH)! And I doubt the STO will take it's place.
I just feel there is enough 'value' in what the LTS offers now that it will be worth it to a number of players (even at the usual $300).
Thank you for the time...
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple: