You're apparently operating under diminished capacity. Here, let me remind you of your lies accusation:
someone forgot what cryptic said about the cstore apperently they said it would only be cosmetic and for costumes and such nothing that would affect ingame stuff..
Instead of "lying" and then admitting they made a mistake and are working to correct it in multiple places on the forum, they could leave us completely in the dark about necessary changes in schedule.
Be glad they're owning up to these "lies" that are apparently being perceived.
someone forgot what cryptic said about the cstore apperently they said it would only be cosmetic and for costumes and such nothing that would affect ingame stuff..
The only thing they've added that could affect gameplay is a ship with a cloak for Feds. A ship with a cloak that is inferior to every single other T5 Cruiser in every way except it can cloak.
Game changing? Yes, a little. So I'm agreeing with you (unfortunately) on that much. But all it's really changed is how many Feds can hide like cowards and who gets killed first in PvP. So these changes are painfully minor, though they certainly exist.
The C-Store is the paradigm by which this Cryptic Game adds items and abilities to the game. We should all be aware of that by now and not besurpised that ships, emotes, bridges and such will be added in this way. As others have said it is a revenue stream which is importnat since there are lifetime memberships.
In short, I have no issue with it.
I used to not have such a problem, but at this rate, missions are the only additions to the game we're not paying for. Which leaves the distinct possibility that players not wanting to buy ala carte are going to end up stuck with ships from a lower tier to do higher-tier missions.
I'm glad we're getting the refits, and I'm glad we're getting the Nebula and Excelsior, but budget doesn't seem to want to allow the game to evolve past RA5; it seems likely that no "new" classes are going to be added to the progression, and from here on out, we're going to be seeing new "powers" added to older classes as we reach new ranks.
Disappointing. I would actually have preferred it being flipped with the Nebula and Excelsior being added to the progression and the refits being added to the C-store- I'm not sure if that puts me in the minority, though.
All this basically boils down to this game has to little content at this stage to be selling content in the way they are trying to and yet complaining they have a small development team and still try to make 3 games.....
Can you link us to these lies? I'd like to see the binding contract that guarantees everything in STO will be free.
first he never said that everything in STO should be free. he was talking about putting game changing items in the C-store. well here is your proof.
Jack "Jackalope" Emmert took some time to clarify the hot-button issue of microtransactions in Star Trek Online. Given the fact that Champions Online will be receiving microtransactions, naturally, Star Trek Online fans are a bit nervous as well.
In a post on the official Star Trek Online forums, Mr. Emmert reassures us that like Champions Online, the microtransaction offerings will be mostly aesthetic in nature, and for the ones that do have a gameplay effect, they will also be attainable through in-game means.
Jack on micro:
* The vast majority are aesthetic items, such as costume pieces, action figures, emblems, etc.
* A very few are account-level management tools, such as being able to rename a character
* Micro-transactions should never limit your ability to enjoy the game or reach the level cap
* Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play
Even though you have to pay for it, you have to realize that this helps the game in the long-term. Purchasing from the c-store allows for more content to be added to the game. I enjoy buying from the c-store, I look forward to it, and it's a situation where I can support the authors directly.
Keep in mind... our subscription costs should be the primary source of helping the game develop. No other type of video game has an ongoing subscription fee and they all make TONS of money on copies of the game alone. I've been an avid suporter or the C-Store to date... but Cryptic is on a slippery slope.
In my 6 years of playing WoW I NEVER spent any real world money on anything.
So far in my 5mths of playing ST:O I've spent over $50. Now I know no one coersed me to do so... it was entirely my decision (I wanted the stuff)... but it's getting tiresome having to dip into my pocket more and more often for the cool stuff in this game.
I aint made of money but I REALLY REALLY want the excelsior class ship
first he never said that everything in STO should be free. he was talking about putting game changing items in the C-store. well here is your proof.
Jack "Jackalope" Emmert took some time to clarify the hot-button issue of microtransactions in Star Trek Online. Given the fact that Champions Online will be receiving microtransactions, naturally, Star Trek Online fans are a bit nervous as well.
In a post on the official Star Trek Online forums, Mr. Emmert reassures us that like Champions Online, the microtransaction offerings will be mostly aesthetic in nature, and for the ones that do have a gameplay effect, they will also be attainable through in-game means.
Jack on micro:
* The vast majority are aesthetic items, such as costume pieces, action figures, emblems, etc.
* A very few are account-level management tools, such as being able to rename a character
* Micro-transactions should never limit your ability to enjoy the game or reach the level cap
* Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play
thanx zod this allso show jack beeing a talking head just like he did before launch when he talked about game having 2 factions fight a war with euqal content and such then before and just afyer launch saying klingons are gonne be a pvp oriented race so copping out on the pve , now that this has happend we back as klingons no low level pvp happening pve content that is much harder and longer to grind as equal time invested pve content for rewards as federation and we still beeing spoonfed this thing we gonna level up with pvp, its hard to level up with pvp when you only got 1 faction that is dependant on the other faction to fight us , and they got no reason at all to fight at lower levels cause they dont gain anything from it other then slowing down their level speed ..
My understanding is that everyone will get a token to get one of the new refit ships when they hit level 51. It seems right now like the only way to get a 2nd refit ship would be to buy it in the C-Store. But if I have 3 admiral characters each get one of the new ships, I get them all for free.
Now if we're only talking about the Excelsior and Nebula, there is no evidence yet that those ships will be overpowered and leaving the other tier 5s in the dust. The refit Defiant I believe will mean the other escort drivers will switch to it, but they can get that ship for free once they hit level 51.
My understanding is that everyone will get a token to get one of the new refit ships when they hit level 51. It seems right now like the only way to get a 2nd refit ship would be to buy it in the C-Store. But if I have 3 admiral characters each get one of the new ships, I get them all for free.
Now if we're only talking about the Excelsior and Nebula, there is no evidence yet that those ships will be overpowered and leaving the other tier 5s in the dust. The refit Defiant I believe will mean the other escort drivers will switch to it, but they can get that ship for free once they hit level 51.
were not worried about them being over powered. were worried that they will have a game effect and I want them to let us have the option to get it in the game. ( in other words hold up what jack said * Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play )
part of the reason why I think merits should be used to buy them.
* The vast majority are aesthetic items, such as costume pieces, action figures, emblems, etc.
* A very few are account-level management tools, such as being able to rename a character
* Micro-transactions should never limit your ability to enjoy the game or reach the level cap
* Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play
In my 6 years of playing WoW I NEVER spent any real world money on anything.
So far in my 5mths of playing ST:O I've spent over $50. Now I know no one coersed me to do so... it was entirely my decision (I wanted the stuff)... but it's getting tiresome having to dip into my pocket more and more often for the cool stuff in this game.
I aint made of money but I REALLY REALLY want the excelsior class ship
Well, You may have never spent money in the WoW store; but plenty of people have; and continue to do so; (they made a mint on the whole 'Sparkle Pony" promotion; and they STILL make a TON by charging $30.00 for character server transfers and faction changes and the like - which MANY WoW players do regulary (I personally know two in RL who have spent hundreds on this alone in the past 6 years; and continue to do so.)
My point? The fact is - Cryptic IS NOT the only company with an in-game store that the players use and which the company also get income from. The difference is - the items there generally cost an order of magnitude LESS and have less of an in-game effect then they would were the game on a 'free to play' model.
Well, You may have never spent money in the WoW store; but plenty of people have; and continue to do so; (they made a mint on the whole 'Sparkle Pony" promotion; and they STILL make a TON by charging $30.00 for character server transfers and faction changes and the like - which MANY WoW players do regulary (I personally know two in RL who have spent hundreds on this alone in the past 6 years; and continue to do so.)
My point? The fact is - Cryptic IS NOT the only company with an in-game store that the players use and which the company also get income from. The difference is - the items there generally cost an order of magnitude LESS and have less of an in-game effect then they would were the game on a 'free to play' model.
ohh we know what im fighting for is actually about splitting the player base into 2 groups the ones that can afford to buy the content in the store and the ones that cant wich this is leading to....
The difference is - the items there generally cost an order of magnitude LESS and have less of an in-game effect then they would were the game on a 'free to play' model.
yes, and that right there is a HUGE key difference.
a cool shiny horse to fly with, or a pet to walk behind you, is far different from an item/effect that no one else has access to in-game, especially when they said there will be another/alternate way to access all things in game.
Well, until that cool new patch, there is a...umm special effect in game... and how many more will be added in coming time.
I am happy to hear that there is thought given to the fact that not everyone can afford a c-store item and that working for things like ship ingame is a form of content too.
While i'm certainly going to buy them anyway (because i'm kinda lazy when it comes to grinding ^^) i think its great that alternative options to get the ships are explored.
Another perfect example of the micro-transaction craze run amok.
You know, the MTs might be making you money now Cryptic, but eventually, people will get tired of the gouging, and the repercussions will be significant.
If STO were free to play, and MTs were the only cost, I wouldn't have a problem. But consider this:
Star Trek Online - Retail Box: 29.99
Star Trek Online - One Month Subscription: 14.99
Star Trek Online - C-Store Points (Qty=1000): 25.00
Total: 69.98
So for $69.98 you get the game, one month of play, and about 1/3rd of what is currently for sale in the C-Store. To get everything in the C-Store, add 50.00 to make the new grand total 119.98.
Now consider this compared to other games, such as WoW, where you pay 49.99 for the box, and then the monthly fee of 14.99. But, all your new content (at least for now) is free, until a full expansion is delivered.
This is just about as wrong as states that implement both an income tax and a sales tax. They gouge you both ways. It's a money grab. Nothing more. And people will soon tire of constantly shelling out more and more for the little add-ons, that with all due respect, should have been in the game from Day 1, or added with the Season Updates. I mean, my God man, they CHARGE YOU to have more than 2 characters! You get 10 character slots per server in WoW! At no additional cost! Having character slots and the ability to play alts is how you retain customers! And you want to charge for that? That's pure insanity!
I spent some money on the C-Store, and honestly, as I look back on it now, I wish I hadn't. And I can say for certain that I will not be doing it again. Never again. I'll pay my subscription and that's it, and so that means I'll be playing a lackluster, stripped down version, which means I will lose interest much sooner, and then, eventually, you won't get my money at all Cryptic.
Another perfect example of the micro-transaction craze run amok.
You know, the MTs might be making you money now Cryptic, but eventually, people will get tired of the gouging, and the repercussions will be significant.
If STO were free to play, and MTs were the only cost, I wouldn't have a problem. But consider this:
Star Trek Online - Retail Box: 29.99
Star Trek Online - One Month Subscription: 14.99
Star Trek Online - C-Store Points (Qty=1000): 25.00
Total: 69.98
So for $69.98 you get the game, one month of play, and about 1/3rd of what is currently for sale in the C-Store. To get everything in the C-Store, add 50.00 to make the new grand total 119.98.
Now consider this compared to other games, such as WoW, where you pay 49.99 for the box, and then the monthly fee of 14.99. But, all your new content (at least for now) is free, until a full expansion is delivered.
This is just about as wrong as states that implement both an income tax and a sales tax. They gouge you both ways. It's a money grab. Nothing more. And people will soon tire of constantly shelling out more and more for the little add-ons, that with all due respect, should have been in the game from Day 1, or added with the Season Updates. I mean, my God man, they CHARGE YOU to have more than 2 characters! You get 10 character slots per server in WoW! At no additional cost! Having character slots and the ability to play alts is how you retain customers! And you want to charge for that? That's pure insanity!
I spent some money on the C-Store, and honestly, as I look back on it now, I wish I hadn't. And I can say for certain that I will not be doing it again. Never again. I'll pay my subscription and that's it, and so that means I'll be playing a lackluster, stripped down version, which means I will lose interest much sooner, and then, eventually, you won't get my money at all Cryptic.
Well put and i agree i aint touching the c store no more i got allmost everything in there and paied for a lot of respecs in CO as well im done ...
Im not suprized they are going into the C-Store at all, nor am I upset really. However I did have a hard time shelling out 24$ for the Blasted Galaxy-X, im not sorry I did-but I dont think it would have hurt them much to make it 15$ or 10$.
The Excelsior is my favorite trek ship, yet if I have to Pay another $25 for it then I might just hold off. I CAN afford it but if it is excessivly expensive like the X then It may take me a while. I just dont see what makes financial sense in setting the price so high that it scares off more buyers than if they would make them cheaper.
So hoping for reasonable prices, yet expecting unreasonable ones.
Im not suprized they are going into the C-Store at all, nor am I upset really. However I did have a hard time shelling out 24$ for the Blasted Galaxy-X, im not sorry I did-but I dont think it would have hurt them much to make it 15$ or 10$.
The Excelsior is my favorite trek ship, yet if I have to Pay another $25 for it then I might just hold off. I CAN afford it but if it is excessivly expensive like the X then It may take me a while. I just dont see what makes financial sense in setting the price so high that it scares off more buyers than if they would make them cheaper.
So hoping for reasonable prices, yet expecting unreasonable ones.
I keep thinking back to NavyField and the cost of their "Premium" ships. Those ships, top of the line Battlecruisers, ran like $7.00 for a boat. And the game was free to play.
If the you could get the ships for like $5 or $10, maybe I'd consider it. But $25 is just ridiculous as it's the same cost nearly as the game itself! Think about that. The game itself, costs $30, and you spend $5 less to get 1 additional ship? CRAZY!!!!
The whole thing is a sham. They didn't have the funds to do a proper game, so they put out a lackluster game, and ask you to pay more to make it the game it should be. But see, that's what subscriptions are supposed to be for. You don't tell people "You pay to play, and you pay for the new content that should have been there in the first place, oh and you gotta buy the retail version too." That is NOT good business practice in an industry that depends on keeping customers around.
I mean, my God man, they CHARGE YOU to have more than 2 characters! You get 10 character slots per server in WoW! At no additional cost! Having character slots and the ability to play alts is how you retain customers! And you want to charge for that? That's pure insanity!
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I agree with you about the C-store when it comes to game changing items.
I do have to disagree with you over the character slots. you said wow gives 10 slots. the difference between blizzard, and Cryptic is the fact that blizzard can afford that much server space for characters. we can't, also WOW is not the only MMO, and if you want the best reference for this look at EVE the other one server space MMO. In EVE online you only get three characters per account ( just like us ) but the difference and I had to do this in EVE, if I wanted more then three characters I had to go out and buy another copy of EVE, and another subscription. same deal with SWG only 2 characters per server. at my peak in that game I had three or 4 active accounts. ( 60 bucks a month ) what I like about this game is I only need one account, and I can buy as many slots as I need. in the long run the C-store is saving me money.
also I know WOW give 10 slots per server, but remember blizzard could buy a small country if they wanted to, so WOW is not the best example.
I agree with you about the C-store when it comes to game changing items.
I do have to disagree with you over the character slots. you said wow gives 10 slots. the difference between blizzard, and Cryptic is the fact that blizzard can afford that much server space for characters. we can't, also WOW is not the only MMO, and if you want the best reference for this look at EVE the other one server space MMO. In EVE online you only get three characters per account ( just like us ) but the difference and I had to do this in EVE, if I wanted more then three characters I had to go out and buy another copy of EVE, and another subscription. same deal with SWG only 2 characters per server. at my peak in that game I had three or 4 active accounts. ( 60 bucks a month ) what I like about this game is I only need one account, and I can buy as many slots as I need. in the long run the C-store is saving me money.
also I know WOW give 10 slots per server, but remember blizzard could buy a small country if they wanted to, so WOW is not the best example.
also it been mentioned before but there is a lot of character data on those slots.
main character, 8 ships, 10 active bo's, about 10 inactive bo's, bank, inventory.
i dont know how much room they take up compared to the average wow characters but it must be bigger and its all going on one server
Just an interesting update but from the source in the cruiser forums THIS was taken from one of the devs photobucket pages. I do not know if it is real or not, and I asked for a link so I can confirm the source, so this is not official yet, but take a look you mite like what you see.
EDIT no official update on that link, but I dug up the look at what cryptic is doing post by Darren_Kitlor, and the defiant changes are from the same account, and I know that CapnLogan worked on that, so it mite be his account, but I'm going to hold of calling it real until i get an official link.
Just an interesting update but from the source in the cruiser forums THIS was taken from one of the devs photobucket pages. I do not know if it is real or not, and I asked for a link so I can confirm the source, so this is not official yet, but take a look you mite like what you see.
Even though you have to pay for it, you have to realize that this helps the game in the long-term. Purchasing from the c-store allows for more content to be added to the game. I enjoy buying from the c-store, I look forward to it, and it's a situation where I can support the authors directly.
If thats true, too bad the Nebula seems like its going to be a Cruiser, it should be a Escort. But the Excelsior should definatly be a cruiser.
I don't think the Nebula should ever be considered an Escort. The Nebula is a support ship, which to me would denote Cruiser status. I could see the Nebula being used as a science vessel though, as they were designed for specialized pods and labratories, contained in the dorsal pod section.
Interesting to note however that Memory Alpha has data that suggest the Nebula's weapons range is 300,000km.
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wow, you just crossed the line from being shown-up, to stepping up and arguing a 'fact' I, nor he, ever mentioned.
That is fantastical in and of itself.
someone forgot what cryptic said about the cstore apperently they said it would only be cosmetic and for costumes and such nothing that would affect ingame stuff..
Instead of "lying" and then admitting they made a mistake and are working to correct it in multiple places on the forum, they could leave us completely in the dark about necessary changes in schedule.
Be glad they're owning up to these "lies" that are apparently being perceived.
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The only thing they've added that could affect gameplay is a ship with a cloak for Feds. A ship with a cloak that is inferior to every single other T5 Cruiser in every way except it can cloak.
Game changing? Yes, a little. So I'm agreeing with you (unfortunately) on that much. But all it's really changed is how many Feds can hide like cowards and who gets killed first in PvP. So these changes are painfully minor, though they certainly exist.
I used to not have such a problem, but at this rate, missions are the only additions to the game we're not paying for. Which leaves the distinct possibility that players not wanting to buy ala carte are going to end up stuck with ships from a lower tier to do higher-tier missions.
I'm glad we're getting the refits, and I'm glad we're getting the Nebula and Excelsior, but budget doesn't seem to want to allow the game to evolve past RA5; it seems likely that no "new" classes are going to be added to the progression, and from here on out, we're going to be seeing new "powers" added to older classes as we reach new ranks.
Disappointing. I would actually have preferred it being flipped with the Nebula and Excelsior being added to the progression and the refits being added to the C-store- I'm not sure if that puts me in the minority, though.
first he never said that everything in STO should be free. he was talking about putting game changing items in the C-store. well here is your proof.
Jack "Jackalope" Emmert took some time to clarify the hot-button issue of microtransactions in Star Trek Online. Given the fact that Champions Online will be receiving microtransactions, naturally, Star Trek Online fans are a bit nervous as well.
In a post on the official Star Trek Online forums, Mr. Emmert reassures us that like Champions Online, the microtransaction offerings will be mostly aesthetic in nature, and for the ones that do have a gameplay effect, they will also be attainable through in-game means.
Jack on micro:
* The vast majority are aesthetic items, such as costume pieces, action figures, emblems, etc.
* A very few are account-level management tools, such as being able to rename a character
* Micro-transactions should never limit your ability to enjoy the game or reach the level cap
* Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play
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you can also read the original source here
Keep in mind... our subscription costs should be the primary source of helping the game develop. No other type of video game has an ongoing subscription fee and they all make TONS of money on copies of the game alone. I've been an avid suporter or the C-Store to date... but Cryptic is on a slippery slope.
In my 6 years of playing WoW I NEVER spent any real world money on anything.
So far in my 5mths of playing ST:O I've spent over $50. Now I know no one coersed me to do so... it was entirely my decision (I wanted the stuff)... but it's getting tiresome having to dip into my pocket more and more often for the cool stuff in this game.
I aint made of money but I REALLY REALLY want the excelsior class ship
thanx zod this allso show jack beeing a talking head just like he did before launch when he talked about game having 2 factions fight a war with euqal content and such then before and just afyer launch saying klingons are gonne be a pvp oriented race so copping out on the pve , now that this has happend we back as klingons no low level pvp happening pve content that is much harder and longer to grind as equal time invested pve content for rewards as federation and we still beeing spoonfed this thing we gonna level up with pvp, its hard to level up with pvp when you only got 1 faction that is dependant on the other faction to fight us , and they got no reason at all to fight at lower levels cause they dont gain anything from it other then slowing down their level speed ..
Now if we're only talking about the Excelsior and Nebula, there is no evidence yet that those ships will be overpowered and leaving the other tier 5s in the dust. The refit Defiant I believe will mean the other escort drivers will switch to it, but they can get that ship for free once they hit level 51.
were not worried about them being over powered. were worried that they will have a game effect and I want them to let us have the option to get it in the game. ( in other words hold up what jack said * Any micro-transaction that has a game effect can also be earned in the game through play )
part of the reason why I think merits should be used to buy them.
...not a true statement about Champions Online?
Well, You may have never spent money in the WoW store; but plenty of people have; and continue to do so; (they made a mint on the whole 'Sparkle Pony" promotion; and they STILL make a TON by charging $30.00 for character server transfers and faction changes and the like - which MANY WoW players do regulary (I personally know two in RL who have spent hundreds on this alone in the past 6 years; and continue to do so.)
My point? The fact is - Cryptic IS NOT the only company with an in-game store that the players use and which the company also get income from. The difference is - the items there generally cost an order of magnitude LESS and have less of an in-game effect then they would were the game on a 'free to play' model.
ohh we know what im fighting for is actually about splitting the player base into 2 groups the ones that can afford to buy the content in the store and the ones that cant wich this is leading to....
Psst, you conveniently left some things out. Things pertinent to the conversation. Things that left out, make you seem right, which you are not.
Usually people looking to cause issues and troll do that. You aren't one of those folks, are you?
yes, and that right there is a HUGE key difference.
a cool shiny horse to fly with, or a pet to walk behind you, is far different from an item/effect that no one else has access to in-game, especially when they said there will be another/alternate way to access all things in game.
Well, until that cool new patch, there is a...umm special effect in game... and how many more will be added in coming time.
While i'm certainly going to buy them anyway (because i'm kinda lazy when it comes to grinding ^^) i think its great that alternative options to get the ships are explored.
thumbs up.
You know, the MTs might be making you money now Cryptic, but eventually, people will get tired of the gouging, and the repercussions will be significant.
If STO were free to play, and MTs were the only cost, I wouldn't have a problem. But consider this:
Star Trek Online - Retail Box: 29.99
Star Trek Online - One Month Subscription: 14.99
Star Trek Online - C-Store Points (Qty=1000): 25.00
Total: 69.98
So for $69.98 you get the game, one month of play, and about 1/3rd of what is currently for sale in the C-Store. To get everything in the C-Store, add 50.00 to make the new grand total 119.98.
Now consider this compared to other games, such as WoW, where you pay 49.99 for the box, and then the monthly fee of 14.99. But, all your new content (at least for now) is free, until a full expansion is delivered.
This is just about as wrong as states that implement both an income tax and a sales tax. They gouge you both ways. It's a money grab. Nothing more. And people will soon tire of constantly shelling out more and more for the little add-ons, that with all due respect, should have been in the game from Day 1, or added with the Season Updates. I mean, my God man, they CHARGE YOU to have more than 2 characters! You get 10 character slots per server in WoW! At no additional cost! Having character slots and the ability to play alts is how you retain customers! And you want to charge for that? That's pure insanity!
I spent some money on the C-Store, and honestly, as I look back on it now, I wish I hadn't. And I can say for certain that I will not be doing it again. Never again. I'll pay my subscription and that's it, and so that means I'll be playing a lackluster, stripped down version, which means I will lose interest much sooner, and then, eventually, you won't get my money at all Cryptic.
Well put and i agree i aint touching the c store no more i got allmost everything in there and paied for a lot of respecs in CO as well im done ...
The Excelsior is my favorite trek ship, yet if I have to Pay another $25 for it then I might just hold off. I CAN afford it but if it is excessivly expensive like the X then It may take me a while. I just dont see what makes financial sense in setting the price so high that it scares off more buyers than if they would make them cheaper.
So hoping for reasonable prices, yet expecting unreasonable ones.
I keep thinking back to NavyField and the cost of their "Premium" ships. Those ships, top of the line Battlecruisers, ran like $7.00 for a boat. And the game was free to play.
If the you could get the ships for like $5 or $10, maybe I'd consider it. But $25 is just ridiculous as it's the same cost nearly as the game itself! Think about that. The game itself, costs $30, and you spend $5 less to get 1 additional ship? CRAZY!!!!
The whole thing is a sham. They didn't have the funds to do a proper game, so they put out a lackluster game, and ask you to pay more to make it the game it should be. But see, that's what subscriptions are supposed to be for. You don't tell people "You pay to play, and you pay for the new content that should have been there in the first place, oh and you gotta buy the retail version too." That is NOT good business practice in an industry that depends on keeping customers around.
I agree with you about the C-store when it comes to game changing items.
I do have to disagree with you over the character slots. you said wow gives 10 slots. the difference between blizzard, and Cryptic is the fact that blizzard can afford that much server space for characters. we can't, also WOW is not the only MMO, and if you want the best reference for this look at EVE the other one server space MMO. In EVE online you only get three characters per account ( just like us ) but the difference and I had to do this in EVE, if I wanted more then three characters I had to go out and buy another copy of EVE, and another subscription. same deal with SWG only 2 characters per server. at my peak in that game I had three or 4 active accounts. ( 60 bucks a month ) what I like about this game is I only need one account, and I can buy as many slots as I need. in the long run the C-store is saving me money.
also I know WOW give 10 slots per server, but remember blizzard could buy a small country if they wanted to, so WOW is not the best example.
also it been mentioned before but there is a lot of character data on those slots.
main character, 8 ships, 10 active bo's, about 10 inactive bo's, bank, inventory.
i dont know how much room they take up compared to the average wow characters but it must be bigger and its all going on one server
EDIT no official update on that link, but I dug up the look at what cryptic is doing post by Darren_Kitlor, and the defiant changes are from the same account, and I know that CapnLogan worked on that, so it mite be his account, but I'm going to hold of calling it real until i get an official link.
i wonder when we gonna see some klingon ships take a look here there are many kling ships
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Ship_Recognition_Manual
http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/klingon_korok_000.jpg
klingon tanker....
Do you work for cryptic? Really!!!!
I don't think the Nebula should ever be considered an Escort. The Nebula is a support ship, which to me would denote Cruiser status. I could see the Nebula being used as a science vessel though, as they were designed for specialized pods and labratories, contained in the dorsal pod section.
Interesting to note however that Memory Alpha has data that suggest the Nebula's weapons range is 300,000km.
Bet Cryptic tones that down just a bit...