To be honest, it's just a skin. STO has bigger issues to deal with.
It's more than just a skin. It has game mechanics not available to other ships of its kind. Like the forward mounted cannon that can hit multiple targets and an out of combat cloak (No other fed ship has that ability).
It's more than just a skin. It has game mechanics not available to other ships of its kind. Like the forward mounted cannon that can hit multiple targets and an out of combat cloak (No other fed ship has that ability).
Doesn't look like a gamebreaker to me. Still voted yes.
Why does it matter if the unique mechanics are 'gamebreaking'? Do you support putting alternative BOff power sets in the C-store or access to more tiers of ships?
Why does it matter if the unique mechanics are 'gamebreaking'? Do you support putting alternative BOff power sets in the C-store or access to more tiers of ships?
Unless they come out with something gamebreaking that's unique to the C-store, I don't care. Huzzah for the people who can get the 5 new signups. I doubt many will get that far. We'll have to see how the ship performs in game, though. For now, I see no reason to worry. I'll be glad to see Klinks have to deal with a legit cloak for once.
Using the C-store to sell copies of expansions (and the alternative BO powers and VA ship tier that would come with) is brilliant. +1 to that.
Unless they come out with something gamebreaking that's unique to the C-store, I don't care. Huzzah for the people who can get the 5 new signups. I doubt many will get that far. We'll have to see how the ship performs in game, though. For now, I see no reason to worry. I'll be glad to see Klinks have to deal with a legit cloak for once.
Using the C-store to sell copies of expansions (and the alternative BO powers and VA ship tier that would come with) is brilliant. +1 to that.
One of the main points Cryptic has emphasized in various interviews is that they listen to their players. And TBH, they've done a pretty good job so far. For example, the game launched without PvE for Klingons, the community requested it, and they have started to deliver and have more in the works. The game launched with a pretty lame crafting system, but people expressed their desires and Cryptic is reworking it. The list goes on and on from the DP to the difficulty slider to end game content.
However, a new issue has arisen that people are voicing their concerns about; namely the Galaxy-X ship introduced through the referral program. Cryptic has made a pattern thus far of listening to the players, and thats a good thing. So lets have an unofficial poll to show how the community feels about this issue, so Cryptic can have another opportunity to prove they are listening:
While I voted 'NO', the thing that I keep coming back to is why did they think that 5 subscribers was a fair number in exchange for the Galaxy X, especially when the norm for these types of programs seems to be around 1 person?
If it has to remain tied to the referral program, why can't they at least reduce the number of people needed to acquire it?
Can we not start another thread about this? There are already 3 of them going two of the riot threads. Hasn't even been 72 hours since the announcement was made and this subject is already starting to get on my nerves.
This thread isn't going to end well.
First. I have never understood why some people get so bent out of shape over someone making a new thread about a particular subject. Is it so annoying to see this? I mean really. You are looking at a one line thread title move on if you don't like it. simple.
To the OP.....I voted No it should not. I really don't care about that ship as I don't fly cruisers but some people really want it and let;s face it getting 5 people to play STO is difficult. and I don't mind C-store items. but Cannon ships should never be in there. Those should always be part of the game and obtainable either from reaching a level point or completing a quest.
Not everyone will have access to it because of the simple fact that not everyone knows that many people or can convince that many people to even play.
This will put ship out of reach of a lot of people I imagine.
So, right off the bat, the handicap is put into place just by the high number they want and the fact not many people I imagine can even get one to even sign up for a month or whatever the time is they want them signed up for.
Content should not be exclusive, like it or not, a ship is content no matter how small it may be.
Got to remember, we are not talking about a badge, we are talking about a functioning in game ship, not just something that hauls you around in the game or just a skin.
Things like this tend to send rifts through gaming communities imo and further sets gamers apart from each other when this game should be about getting people together, not setting them at eachother's throats.
Every attempt should be made to bring the community together and keep it together rather than placing in items that are only obtainable though ways outside the game itself like the refer a friend.
There are just too many uncontrollable factors at play with these things.
Sure, no matter what they do, there will be people who will go on about something, but that does not mean they should stop trying all together to keep the peace.
Also, I am not saying they are not trying to keep the peace or anything like that, I am just making a comment nothing more.
Trust me, people notice these kinds of practices and remember them.
They can choose to avoid their products or run right to their store and buy them based on their prior experiences with a company and so on.
People who have gotten all their friends in the game are probably not going to be able to count the ones they brought in towards getting this item, so in a sense they are just out of luck after they went to the trouble of rounding up their group and getting them signed up.
These people deserve another shot at the ship, not asked to go out and make 5 more on top of the ones they managed to get.
Getting people to join up and such is great and I am all for it, but if they make a large portion of the playerbase mad in the process and cause them to leave, then all they are doing is just changing the guard in a sense and just replacing those that left and in the end have not moved any further along than they were in the first place.
At any rate, have a good day / nite all.
Sorry about the ranting, just dropping in my couple of coins worth of comments.
if your all gonna make such a big deal about this then i feel sorry for cryptic
DEAR GOD ITS JUST A SHIP SKIN!
if you want it so bad find people to play! im sick of listening to people whining on these forums about how the game is so quiet etc so when cryptic finally offer something to help get more players you all moan about that!
Cryptic should just close STO down and these forums to stop all the crying and hate!
YOU WANT THE SHIP? HELP THE GAME! THEN YOU WILL GET IT!
but on another note +1 to the cstore expansions idea! so much better than buying a useless 1 use disc copy.
if your all gonna make such a big deal about this then i feel sorry for cryptic
DEAR GOD ITS JUST A SHIP SKIN!
if you want it so bad find people to play! im sick of listening to people whining on these forums about how the game is so quiet etc so when cryptic finally offer something to help get more players you all moan about that!
Cryptic should just close STO down and these forums to stop all the crying and hate!
YOU WANT THE SHIP? HELP THE GAME! THEN YOU WILL GET IT!
but on another note +1 to the cstore expansions idea! so much better than buying a useless 1 use disc copy.
1.) Its not just a skin.
Its a fully functional galaxy class ship, at t5. You know, the t5 that does not have a galaxy class. Which is a ship a great many of people WANT at t5. we can't use the t4 one, since it gimps you in pvp and drags your team down.
2.) Helping the game:
I am helping the game by paying my sub.
Trying to drag in 5(!) persons into this game is a task that can hardly be completed: given the fact that this game has not much going for it but ST-fan steam.
1 player would already be an achievement, 5 is pure fantasy.
3.) putting things like that in the c-store is simply a sensible approach. It is open to a wide audience, cryptic can get some bucks ("helping" the game) and most importantly: It doesn't tick of the players.
Of course it shouldnt be exclusive.
(By the way I HATE exclusives of any kind you cant earn INSINDE the game any way!)
So, of course i votet on the poll although I know Cryptic wont care.
The Galaxy X is such a musthave for some that some nerd players even will buy the game a couple of times to get it escpecialy if it includes the long discussed federation cloak.. Not joking, I was speaking to a guy inside the game who said he'll do that!
Cryptic didnt chose an iconic ship like the GalaxyX accidantly for that.
You don't draw or take 20 minutes to put together a video for a contest? Seriously a majority of those ideas listed are much easier to do, especially the second suggestion, than the current program.
Those ARE non-issues if it's an Escort and Tier 5.5 Escorts have those.
Yes, but it's still pure speculation that that will be the case, and I won't be comfortable with this until a yellow-name confirms that it won't have unique mechanics not otherwise available.
Comments
As many have said before, regardless of results, this poll is not going to be accurate in any way.
If it were just a skin, they could bundle it with a full-price Lamborghini for all I care.
To be honest, it's just a skin. STO has bigger issues to deal with.
It's more than just a skin. It has game mechanics not available to other ships of its kind. Like the forward mounted cannon that can hit multiple targets and an out of combat cloak (No other fed ship has that ability).
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=2637012&postcount=399
If it were "just a skin" I would have no problem with it. But the fact of the matter is, it's not.
Doesn't look like a gamebreaker to me. Still voted yes.
Why does it matter if the unique mechanics are 'gamebreaking'? Do you support putting alternative BOff power sets in the C-store or access to more tiers of ships?
stos biggest issue is to keep its playerbase.
alienating it like this is not gonna work in their favor.
I thought it was to keep the Kool-Aid flowing.
Learn something new...
Unless they come out with something gamebreaking that's unique to the C-store, I don't care. Huzzah for the people who can get the 5 new signups. I doubt many will get that far. We'll have to see how the ship performs in game, though. For now, I see no reason to worry. I'll be glad to see Klinks have to deal with a legit cloak for once.
Using the C-store to sell copies of expansions (and the alternative BO powers and VA ship tier that would come with) is brilliant. +1 to that.
*sigh* Long live the Cash Store MMO, then.
Its already coming.
How did you vote Nagus?
then get opened up to everybody by another means.
veteran rewards would be the cheap option for me but it would takes ages so id be happy with c-store
If it has to remain tied to the referral program, why can't they at least reduce the number of people needed to acquire it?
First. I have never understood why some people get so bent out of shape over someone making a new thread about a particular subject. Is it so annoying to see this? I mean really. You are looking at a one line thread title move on if you don't like it. simple.
To the OP.....I voted No it should not. I really don't care about that ship as I don't fly cruisers but some people really want it and let;s face it getting 5 people to play STO is difficult. and I don't mind C-store items. but Cannon ships should never be in there. Those should always be part of the game and obtainable either from reaching a level point or completing a quest.
6 month, in my book, aren't a short time.
There should be more ways to get this ship.
There are a couple of reasons for this.
Not everyone will have access to it because of the simple fact that not everyone knows that many people or can convince that many people to even play.
This will put ship out of reach of a lot of people I imagine.
So, right off the bat, the handicap is put into place just by the high number they want and the fact not many people I imagine can even get one to even sign up for a month or whatever the time is they want them signed up for.
Content should not be exclusive, like it or not, a ship is content no matter how small it may be.
Got to remember, we are not talking about a badge, we are talking about a functioning in game ship, not just something that hauls you around in the game or just a skin.
Things like this tend to send rifts through gaming communities imo and further sets gamers apart from each other when this game should be about getting people together, not setting them at eachother's throats.
Every attempt should be made to bring the community together and keep it together rather than placing in items that are only obtainable though ways outside the game itself like the refer a friend.
There are just too many uncontrollable factors at play with these things.
Sure, no matter what they do, there will be people who will go on about something, but that does not mean they should stop trying all together to keep the peace.
Also, I am not saying they are not trying to keep the peace or anything like that, I am just making a comment nothing more.
Trust me, people notice these kinds of practices and remember them.
They can choose to avoid their products or run right to their store and buy them based on their prior experiences with a company and so on.
People who have gotten all their friends in the game are probably not going to be able to count the ones they brought in towards getting this item, so in a sense they are just out of luck after they went to the trouble of rounding up their group and getting them signed up.
These people deserve another shot at the ship, not asked to go out and make 5 more on top of the ones they managed to get.
Getting people to join up and such is great and I am all for it, but if they make a large portion of the playerbase mad in the process and cause them to leave, then all they are doing is just changing the guard in a sense and just replacing those that left and in the end have not moved any further along than they were in the first place.
At any rate, have a good day / nite all.
Sorry about the ranting, just dropping in my couple of coins worth of comments.
DEAR GOD ITS JUST A SHIP SKIN!
if you want it so bad find people to play! im sick of listening to people whining on these forums about how the game is so quiet etc so when cryptic finally offer something to help get more players you all moan about that!
Cryptic should just close STO down and these forums to stop all the crying and hate!
YOU WANT THE SHIP? HELP THE GAME! THEN YOU WILL GET IT!
but on another note +1 to the cstore expansions idea! so much better than buying a useless 1 use disc copy.
1.) Its not just a skin.
Its a fully functional galaxy class ship, at t5. You know, the t5 that does not have a galaxy class. Which is a ship a great many of people WANT at t5. we can't use the t4 one, since it gimps you in pvp and drags your team down.
2.) Helping the game:
I am helping the game by paying my sub.
Trying to drag in 5(!) persons into this game is a task that can hardly be completed: given the fact that this game has not much going for it but ST-fan steam.
1 player would already be an achievement, 5 is pure fantasy.
3.) putting things like that in the c-store is simply a sensible approach. It is open to a wide audience, cryptic can get some bucks ("helping" the game) and most importantly: It doesn't tick of the players.
Multiple statements made by dstahl confirm that it will have mechanical functionality including the forward laser cannon and possibly cloak.
(By the way I HATE exclusives of any kind you cant earn INSINDE the game any way!)
So, of course i votet on the poll although I know Cryptic wont care.
The Galaxy X is such a musthave for some that some nerd players even will buy the game a couple of times to get it escpecialy if it includes the long discussed federation cloak.. Not joking, I was speaking to a guy inside the game who said he'll do that!
Cryptic didnt chose an iconic ship like the GalaxyX accidantly for that.
Those ARE non-issues if it's an Escort and Tier 5.5 Escorts have those.
You don't draw or take 20 minutes to put together a video for a contest? Seriously a majority of those ideas listed are much easier to do, especially the second suggestion, than the current program.
this game is good, if its so bad why the hell are you playing it?
It's not going to be an escort. Just by the simple fact that it's going to be a Galaxy Class Starship. It's going to be a cruiser.
Yes, but it's still pure speculation that that will be the case, and I won't be comfortable with this until a yellow-name confirms that it won't have unique mechanics not otherwise available.