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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Again in my search for a new computer i have found a new option, and wanted to run it by the forums for a verdict on how well it would run STO. Specs are:
    * AMD Athlon II X3 425 processor
    * (2.7GHz, 1.5MB Cache)
    * Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * 3GB DDR2 memory
    * 320GB hard drive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 9200 integrated graphics

    It is a Packard Bell iMedia A2620
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Again in my search for a new computer i have found a new option, and wanted to run it by the forums for a verdict on how well it would run STO. Specs are:
    * AMD Athlon II X3 425 processor
    * (2.7GHz, 1.5MB Cache)
    * Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * 3GB DDR2 memory
    * 320GB hard drive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 9200 integrated graphics

    It is a Packard Bell iMedia A2620

    This video card have similar results as my old 8400... not best idea for gaming.
    Maybe you have to use NVIDIA GeForce GT 240 or better.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Do you guy think the laptop I ordered will have any trouble running the STO? It's a HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition

    Specs
    WIndows 7 Pro 64bit
    Intel Core i7-820QM Processor(1.73GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
    6GB DDR3 System Memory
    1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    morfius75 wrote: »
    I think minimum could be low at last for other components than video cards.
    My notebook is Intel Core 2 Duo - 1.5GHz, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 8400m - 256 MB RAM. Windows Server 2003 SP2 test build with full media acceleration.
    (Mention OS build because of much better optimization in work with dual CPU, managing memory and HDD treads - it's better than Windows XP SP3 with about 25% on same notebook.)
    So about game, I have no CPU overload - about 75% total CPU loaded during play, no overheating, no HDD latency, no video crashes.
    I could say that I have no issues with playing, only big open spaces during ground mission cause time to time some video slowing.

    But not tried large fleets combat or PvP (I test it in solo PvE mode during now) large groups in other MMOs, causes more CPU & memory load, when try will update.

    We all agree that the video requirements are a bit high. A 6600 GS or 7600 GS should be minimum. 8400m is below minimum since nvidia x600 card series are concern the entry level gaming card. But with tweaking the video settings down and lowering the resolution this game will play smoothly on that card.

    Try this.
    Use either Nvidia 191.07 or 190.62 driver
    AA is at 2x
    Screen-Space Ambient Occlusion : OFF
    Depth of Field : OFF
    Shadows : LOW
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Chibi_Kaji wrote: »
    Do you guy think the laptop I ordered will have any trouble running the STO? It's a HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition

    Specs
    WIndows 7 Pro 64bit
    Intel Core i7-820QM Processor(1.73GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
    6GB DDR3 System Memory
    1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M

    You're fine
    Try this.
    Use either Nvidia 191.07 or 190.62 driver
    AA is at 2x
    Screen-Space Ambient Occlusion : OFF
    Depth of Field : OFF
    Shadows : LOW
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Again in my search for a new computer i have found a new option, and wanted to run it by the forums for a verdict on how well it would run STO. Specs are:
    * AMD Athlon II X3 425 processor
    * (2.7GHz, 1.5MB Cache)
    * Genuine Windows(R) 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * 3GB DDR2 memory
    * 320GB hard drive
    * NVIDIA GeForce 9200 integrated graphics

    It is a Packard Bell iMedia A2620

    Try to find a system with one of these cards. The video card is more important the the CPU. So just try to a Core 2 duo or Athlon II x2 1.8GHz or better with 3-4GB RAM with one of these video cards.

    Graphic Gaming cards:
    Entry level:
    ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
    Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
    Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
    All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.

    Mid Level:
    ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.

    High End:
    ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $250.00-600.00.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sorry my internet was down for a day and half. I will try to caught up.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Chibi_Kaji wrote: »
    Do you guy think the laptop I ordered will have any trouble running the STO? It's a HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition

    Specs
    WIndows 7 Pro 64bit
    Intel Core i7-820QM Processor(1.73GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
    6GB DDR3 System Memory
    1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
    This video card is a High End class 3 GPU. It will play STO smoothly on low resolution and low settings. Try of a Class 2 or 1 card if you can.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
    Check out these.

    Asus - Laptop with Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor - Blue/Black
    Model: G60VX-RBBX05 | SKU: 9556072 - $899.99 - This one is a deal. A GTX 260M GPU is a med range Class 1 GPU.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell+-+Studio+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i5+Processor+-+Obsidian+Black/9682253.p?id=1218145924297&skuId=9682253
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vor_Eve wrote:
    Shutdown then an odd reboot problem as stated,
    I just spoken with my farther and he said I may need a new CPU and motherbord, as one of the main problems I have been having the last few months has been with over heating my PC,

    Windows XP SP3, my new videocard is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260,
    but right now I cannot even get in to my PC I am posting this with my farther's old PC, as he is trying to fix mine,

    What case do you have? It's may be a cooling issue. How long have you been using this card? Does your power supply meet the power requirement for this card?. You make and model # of this card?

    Example: GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked - 55nm Needs a Minimum of a 500 Watt power supply.
    (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amps.) So you need the +12 Volt to have a combine total of 36 Amps. If you only have 24 Amps you are under power.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Deutsch wrote:
    Im gonna be upgrading my system to the following this week. Think this will be acceptable to play STO at a decent level??? Or should i think about changing it slightly?

    Intel Celeron CPU E1400 2.0GHz
    Windows Vista
    Nvidia GeForce 9800GT 1GB
    2GB RAM
    Don't get a Celeron CPU. They suck.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Deutsch wrote:
    Im gonna be upgrading my system to the following this week. Think this will be acceptable to play STO at a decent level??? Or should i think about changing it slightly?

    Intel Celeron CPU E1400 2.0GHz
    Windows Vista
    Nvidia GeForce 9800GT 1GB
    2GB RAM
    Don't get a Celeron CPU. They suck. Get a Athlon II X2 or a Intel Core 2 Duo or better. And try to get one of these cards.

    Graphic Gaming cards:
    Entry level:
    ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
    Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
    Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
    All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.

    Mid Level:
    ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.

    High End:
    ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $250.00-600.00.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    sean91 wrote: »
    Hey everyone im wondering if someone can help me, im a computed dunce lol and want to know if i could play the game on these specs
    AMD Phenom X3 8550
    (2.2GHz, 2MB Cache)
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
    2GB memory
    320GB hard drive
    512MB NVIDIA GeForce GT210
    DVD Rewriter
    6x USB ports

    The main thing im worrying abouts the graphics card tbh.

    We all agree that video card sucks. Try for one of theses

    Graphic Gaming cards:
    Entry level:
    ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
    Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
    Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
    All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.

    Mid Level:
    ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.

    High End:
    ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
    STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $250.00-600.00.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    This video card is a High End class 3 GPU. It will play STO smoothly on low resolution and low settings. Try of a Class 2 or 1 card if you can.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
    Check out these.

    I didn't realize it until now but I thought this laptop had a Nvidia GeForce GT 320M... I'll have to call and double check now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Chibi_Kaji wrote: »
    I didn't realize it until now but I thought this laptop had a Nvidia GeForce GT 320M... I'll have to call and double check now.

    The 300 series is band new so there are no reviews on them yet. The rating is base on specs and not actual testing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm playing on a system with Radeon x1250 graphic - not supposed to work but it does.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Okay WN, (or anyone else that wishes to help) you've been kind enough to help me in another thread and I'm here to bother you again :p

    I've been looking at 2 laptops (yep, laptops. Portability is key for me) and I think I like the following:

    The Asus G51Vx-X3A and the ASUS N61JQ-X1. The G series is only running a Core 2 Duo P8700 while the N61 sports the shiny i7 720QM. On the other hand, the G51 is equipped with the Nvidia GTX 260M while the N61 uses the slightly inferior ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730. Both have similar HDD (I believe) and both have 4 gigs RAM, but the N61 has DDR3 (I've read the game output is negligable but still worth mentioning).

    Thanks a lot !
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    jakeeyes wrote: »
    Okay WN, (or anyone else that wishes to help) you've been kind enough to help me in another thread and I'm here to bother you again :p

    I've been looking at 2 laptops (yep, laptops. Portability is key for me) and I think I like the following:

    The Asus G51Vx-X3A and the ASUS N61JQ-X1. The G series is only running a Core 2 Duo P8700 while the N61 sports the shiny i7 720QM. On the other hand, the G51 is equipped with the Nvidia GTX 260M while the N61 uses the slightly inferior ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730. Both have similar HDD (I believe) and both have 4 gigs RAM, but the N61 has DDR3 (I've read the game output is negligable but still worth mentioning).

    Thanks a lot !

    I would go with the ASUS G Series G51Vx-X3A with the GTX 260M. The GPU is more important then the CPU for gaming.

    Now with that being said check out is:
    Asus - Laptop with Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor - Black
    Model: G72GX-RBBX05 | SKU: 9556125 $999.99

    The screen is 17.3" vs 15.6" of the G51Vx-X3A and $100.00 less.

    EDIT: I just notice it also has 6GB RAM vs 4GB of the G51Vx-X3A. And a bigger HDD, 500GB vs 320GB. Also a webcam. BestBuy got a really good ideal.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I would go with the ASUS G Series G51Vx-X3A with the GTX 260M. The GPU is more important then the CPU for gaming.

    Now with that being said check out is:
    Asus - Laptop with Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor - Black
    Model: G72GX-RBBX05 | SKU: 9556125 $999.99

    The screen is 17.3" vs 15.6" of the G51Vx-X3A and $100.00 less.

    Thanks man! Very cool, great find. The other plus is I could probably get it cheaper, still, with the 10% coupon from bradsdeals. Now I just have to wait for the tax return. Again, I am in your debt.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    jakeeyes wrote: »
    Thanks man! Very cool, great find. The other plus is I could probably get it cheaper, still, with the 10% coupon from bradsdeals. Now I just have to wait for the tax return. Again, I am in your debt.

    np..........................
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    lol i dont come near those specs but can still run the game on my laptop, vista 32bit amd 64 dule core at 1.9 2gigs ram and only nvidia 700m video. still runs but have to use low settings lol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ***Disc: 6X DVD-ROM***

    And that should be used for?... :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Wanted to get some thoughts from some of you to see if my system is up to spec.

    Pentium D 3.20 Ghz, (This one is not a dual core CPU)
    3 GBs Ram
    GForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB
    XP Pro

    The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that my CPU isn't a dual core, it should be fast enough. But wanted to hear from some of you guys.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Wanted to get some thoughts from some of you to see if my system is up to spec.

    Pentium D 3.20 Ghz, (This one is not a dual core CPU)
    3 GBs Ram
    GForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB
    XP Pro

    The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that my CPU isn't a dual core, it should be fast enough. But wanted to hear from some of you guys.

    I have played STO without a Dual-Core processor, and it did not seem to matter.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Wanted to get some thoughts from some of you to see if my system is up to spec.

    Pentium D 3.20 Ghz, (This one is not a dual core CPU)
    3 GBs Ram
    GForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB
    XP Pro

    The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that my CPU isn't a dual core, it should be fast enough. But wanted to hear from some of you guys.

    Ummmm, yes, your CPU is a dual core. Pentium D is a dual core Pentium 4 CPU basicly. And this game's CPU and GPU requirements are low enough that yes, your PC is fine for it.

    If it says "Pentium D" in System Properties, it's dual core. If your not getting dual cores showing up in Task Manager's performance tab, then something is wrong with your OS load or system bios. Your CPU is part of the "Netburst" family of CPUs, which included Celeron, Pentium 4, Pentium D, and Xeon. While the Celeron and Xeon names are still used with newer and different architectures, Pentium 4 and Pentium D are not. Both Pentium 4 and Pentium D are VERY specific in naming. Pentium 4 = single core with or without Hyperthreading. Pentium D is always dual core without Hyperthreading. Pentium Extreme Edition from the Netburst era was dual core with Hyperthreading, showing up as 4 cores even though it's only 2 real and 2 virtual.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Just for reference, I'm playing STO on a Core i7 860 with Turbo mode enabled (cranks cores speed up to 3.46Ghz without overclocking, all stock function) and this game barely even shows up as using any CPU resources. I'm seeing around 25% usage on Core 0, 10% usage on varying other cores (jumping from cores 1 to 7 depending on when your looking). So, when the total of 8 visable cores for Windows is totalled up, we're looking at around 10% total CPU usage at peak.

    When you have 4 physical cores and 4 virtual cores for Windows to keep track of, and only 2 of the cores look like anything are going on them from this game (not counting OS used resources), even 25% on one core and 10% on another ends up adding up to a tiny amount of CPU usage.

    This game is HIGHLY CPU friendly. It's highly GPU friendly too. 8x Antialiasing looks DARNED good and runs very smoothly on a single Radeon 5870 1Gb DDR5 card.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Not all Ds are true dual cores. Yes they have two cores, but when Intel started making these they didn't know what they where doing. So some of the Ds are dual core link as one. So yes it's two cores, but it evenly spreads the load between both cores, so all you really get is a little bit better single core.

    Still this CPU should be ok? Most other things I've read have said that Cryptic's game engine is very CPU heavy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Not all Ds are true dual cores. Yes they have two cores, but when Intel started making these they didn't know what they where doing. So some of the Ds are dual core link as one. So yes it's two cores, but it evenly spreads the load between both cores, so all you really get is a little bit better single core.

    Still this CPU should be ok? Most other things I've read have said that Cryptic's game engine is very CPU heavy.

    WHAT??? BS. What are you even talking about. Do you even know anything about CPUs? Pentium D is 2 Prescott die, side by side on the same substrate. They are physically seperate silicon. 2 physical cores seperate. No such "linking" or any other such thing exists, that is pure BS and I don't know who filled you with it. You have been lied to by whoever told you such TRIBBLE. I've been in this industry for a decade and a half and am a support analyst, certified by Cisco and Microsoft. I've been up to my elbows in CPUs, mobos, ram and video cards for that entire time and been totally into following every single x86 CPU generation.

    I have reviews written on PC911 for overclocking using advanced modifications. I am qualified to tell you this, no such creature as a "non-dual core Pentium D" exists. The only way it won't show 2 cores is if something is screwed up, PERIOD.

    That something can be one of 3 things. An outdated or corrupted bios, a corrupted or misinstalled load of WIndows, or, a corrupted install of Intel Chipset driver package. A distant but possible 4th possability is a corrupted power management service, this can cause ACPI multicore systems to fail out and only show the core 0 (first core) of any multi core CPU. A near improbability, but 5th possibility is Core 1 failure. If Core 0 is still viable, but Core 1 fails, Core 0 can still run since they are seperate dies and seperate cache structures.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If a program reads your CPU as 5.8GHz, then it's either a buggy program or your motherboard is faulty. No CPU in consumer systems can reach 5.8GHz even with insane cooling.

    As for your Pentium 4 and ATI 3450, sorry, your system will run STO so slowly that it will be almost unplayable. Sure, you'll probably be able to install and play STO, but it won't be enjoyably on that PC.

    For $400 you can probably get a new PC that will play STO just fine.



    Hey guys I read this post and discovered I have the exact same problem.

    I purchased a XP Media Center m7060n with Intel Pentium 4 3.0 MHz with Hyper Threading
    Not less than 5 years ago and it seems it’s already obsolete?!?!?!?!.
    ---- 200GB HD AND 1GB DDR2 RAM, NO Avg slot, Only PCI, and a measly 300 wt power supply.
    Also the MOBO can only to upgrade to same chipset to 4.0 GHz (not dual core)

    I soon as I heard STO was launching, I was ready to buy a GB EVGA Geforce 9400 and max out my RAM to 4GB at newegg.com for $195 bucks and then the post and the response from cyper_nemo and you can imagine how defeated I feel.

    I was just wondering what I should do now?

    Buying new Computer for me is an extremely labor intensive processes. I WAS planning to get the collector edition and a lifetime subscription ($79 + $239). But I can't do that with I am have to purchase new PC before Feb 2nd.

    I am tempted to just up do the upgrades above, just to see if cyper_nemo is incorrect
    (The Geek Squad guys say an Intel P4 HT will work just fine)

    I am also tempted to just to go to CompUSA, Best Buy and buy an open box discount PC to save a couple hundred but I still will have to get a Video card.

    Lastly, should I just buy the game and the life time sub and not play it and the wait for 4 paychecks to purchase a new pc?

    Thanks for listen... What should I you do?

    Hail frequencies are open.

    Paul
    The-merchant-prince
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Not having an AGP or PCI-E slot is nearly fatal for this games performance. I said above that it is CPU and GPU friendly, but that's with at least having decent bandwidth between those devices. Not even having an AGP slot kills your chances. PCI video cards are lame ducks for gaming. PCI-E or AGP are your only hope.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hi everybody.

    First post here and I need some help.

    I use a Macbook with a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M so I'm in the market for a new computer(cheap with good specs).

    So, I have found one that I think will do it but I think i need a second opinion.
    It's a Packard Bell IMEDIA D6640 NC ,the specs are:

    Intel C2Q 2.5 Ghz
    4Gb RAM
    1TB harddrive
    (and here is the tricky one) GeForce GT230 1.5GB

    I have looked at the minimum and the recommended specs but I can't determine how good, or bad, the card(PC) is.

    So, what do you think?
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