You really should be in a system running DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. We can help you pick parts. I would whether put my money towards a new system then put more money in a end of life system.
I assume your system is a custom one. You can re-use most of your parts. Case, SATA HDD, DVD. Maybe PSU. Which means you only need a new MB, CPU and RAM. Your under $250 easy.
Intel E5300 soc 775 @ 2600 x2
Asus P5KPL-AM
2048 ddr2 800 Kingston
plus the old 8600gt by Palit
it was a 100£ upgrade, and I'm wondering if now it'll alow me to play STO without major lag?
You should be able to play low/med settings. the GPU is a bit dated but will work.
I would have gone with the AMD AM2+ socket with an Athlon X2 or AMD Athlon II X2 CPU because you can always upgrade to the Phenom II processors later which completes with the i5s and save cash. We don't know how much longer Intel will be making socket 775 CPU. They are nearing end of life. Where Phenom II are still very new.
Graphic Gaming cards:
Entry level:
ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.
Mid Level:
ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.
High End:
ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $250.00-600.00.
i was wondering if a computer with 8gb of ram a amd quad core processor of 700gb of memory and a ati hd radeon 4200 graphics card would be good for the game i just got the computer before xmas and i really want to play lol i have another computer with patrs i can use to possibly upgrade if i need to but i really dotn want to do that
i was wondering if a computer with 8gb of ram a amd quad core processor of 700gb of memory and a ati hd radeon 4200 graphics card would be good for the game i just got the computer before xmas and i really want to play lol i have another computer with patrs i can use to possibly upgrade if i need to but i really dotn want to do that
I think you mean 700GB Hard drive.
I will play STO but at low settings. The ati hd radeon 4200 is what is hurting you. I this a laptop or Desktop? A Desktop GPU can be replace. A laptop can not.
this is a desktop and i have a better grapihcs card in a older gaming computer i got lol i just have to change them out just have to get my cosin who builds coputers to do it for me
i dont know the specs of the other computers graphic card but what do u suggest for a budget around $100-150 if its not good enough i might just wait till after the game comes out to get the card
i dont know the specs of the other computers graphic card but what do u suggest for a budget around $100-150 if its not good enough i might just wait till after the game comes out to get the card
Here's a list of GPU. You need to make sure the PSU can support which card you get.
Graphic Gaming cards:
Entry level:
ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.
Mid Level:
ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.
High End:
ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $220.00-700.00.
You should be able to play low/med settings. the GPU is a bit dated but will work.
I would have gone with the AMD AM2+ socket with an Athlon X2 or AMD Athlon II X2 CPU because you can always upgrade to the Phenom II processors later which completes with the i5s and save cash. We don't know how much longer Intel will be making socket 775 CPU. They are nearing end of life. Where Phenom II are still very new.
the price was quite ok on the e5300, and I've never replaced just the cpu in my pc; it was allways a cpu/mb combo.
So, if I'd change the gpu to a GTS250 from nvidia I could theoretically run sto in High settings (1280x1024) ?
due to one thing and another funds are coming in low for getting a graphics, seen the ati HD-575X at a good price. from my understanding i should get a mid range setting from the game?
due to one thing and another funds are coming in low for getting a graphics, seen the ati HD-575X at a good price. from my understanding i should get a mid range setting from the game?
At reasonable resolutions you should get solid performance and be able to run at high settings with a 5750.
or should i just think long term and chuck the cash for in for 250? mybday this week so just contemplating presents
The 5750 is still a good card. If you want the 250, that's a great card too. The ATI equivalent to the NVIDIA 250 would be a 5770. There's still differences that make comparing ATI and NVIDIA difficult, but these two are close. The advantage of ATI's 5000 series cards is that it has DX11 support for future games.
First of all guys I want to tell everyone that this forum is a great read and i do appreciate everyones knowledge on the systems specs but let me tell everyone one thing dont listen to guys that tell you your system specs are not good enough especially if you have single core p4. They can estimate all they want but until it is tested they dont know for sure if you can run this game or not on your system specs. I created a forum post about single core p4s and this one guy posted this on the post.
Old 12-24-2009, 08:49 AM #13
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yes you will run STO fine.......
My system specs are
3.2 pentium 4 hyperthread
9600 nvida gt
windows 32bit xp
4gigs of DDR2 ram 3.2 pentium 4 hyperthread
4gigs of ram but pc reconizes 3 gigs cause its a 32 bit operating system of course
ive seen the game run on a 1.81 sempron cpu with 7300 xfx diablo 512 video card...
yes you will have to turn the grafix down a bit but runs just fine! even in big battles! and still looks nice...
From the way it looks is if you have a 2.8 p4 processor you should be able to play this game on med setting and if your rig is maxed at then you may be able to go quality. This guy has actually seen it tested out in beta everyone estimating saying that you need to buy a new system is not necessary and I would venture its not a good time to upgrade right now with 6 core processors about to come out and a rumor of a new DDR too. So dont go out there wasting your money till you know for sure.
First of all guys I want to tell everyone that this forum is a great read and i do appreciate everyones knowledge on the systems specs but let me tell everyone one thing dont listen to guys that tell you your system specs are not good enough especially if you have single core p4. They can estimate all they want but until it is tested they dont know for sure if you can run this game or not on your system specs. I created a forum post about single core p4s and this one guy posted this on the post.
From the way it looks is if you have a 2.8 p4 processor you should be able to play this game on med setting and if your rig is maxed at then you may be able to go quality. This guy has actually seen it tested out in beta everyone estimating saying that you need to buy a new system is not necessary and I would venture its not a good time to upgrade right now with 6 core processors about to come out and a rumor of a new DDR too. So dont go out there wasting your money till you know for sure.
Old 12-24-2009, 08:49 AM #13
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ive seen the game run on a 1.81 sempron cpu with 7300 xfx diablo 512 video card...
I actually know this situation much better than you do since Vox Vorcain is part of my fleet and a close friend. I have talked with him personally about this and his PC. To help the community, I'll share a little here. During his testing, his CPU was at 100% the whole time he played. And that was at idle. Imagine when you get in a graphically-demanding area (ie: not just idling in space), and your 100% CPU usage will be a huge issue. Welcome to lag central. And if you want to run Ventrilo or Teamspeak for voice-over-IP in your fleet while running the STO client? Forget it. You'll need better than a P4 for running STO as the system requirements state.
On top of that, upgrading from an Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Sempron is not "wasting your money". Those two CPUs are very old and outdated for pretty much any game coming out this year. You can rationalize all you want, but don't blame us when your old PC chokes on STO. White Knight, myself, and others are here helping the community with advice on system components that will run STO smoothly. Sure, you can probably run STO on a Netbook, but will it play smoothly or be enjoyable? Probably not. And an Intel Atom processor is comparable to both a Celeron and the earlier Pentium 4 cores (ie: Willamette and Northwood).
While some of the later Pentium 4 CPUs (ie: Prescott, Cedar Mill, etc.) might run STO on lower to medium settings, but they're still going to be maxed out. That means your CPU will always be working near peak while you play STO, or just about any new game for that matter. Your performance will suffer at some point in that equation.
The system requirement guidelines and our suggestions exist for a reason. Don't come complaining to us here when you have a poor gameplay experience if you didn't want to believe or follow them.
cipher_nemo, I love it when you put them in their place.:) This is why we make a good team. I know how to made things work but you understand why they works.;)
The only problem is, I can't figure out if it has built in wireless connectivity. Before you look at me like I'm stupid for asking about a desktop and wireless connectivity, I don't have cable in my bedroom and the whole house is a hotspot so it would be a ton simpler if it had wireless internet capability.
The only problem is, I can't figure out if it has built in wireless connectivity. Before you look at me like I'm stupid for asking about a desktop and wireless connectivity, I don't have cable in my bedroom and the whole house is a hotspot so it would be a ton simpler if it had wireless internet capability.
Can anyone help me out here?
It's doesn't have Wifi. The 9800 GT should let you play STO med/high at lower in game resolution. The good thing about this system is it's using over the counter parts. You will be able to upgrade it as you need for next 3-5 years.
Arg! I don't really keep up with pc gaming. I was looking into STO, but I don't have the min. system req's apparently.
Does anyone know if it would still work if my pc meets all min. requirements except for the video card?
My laptop has a Nvidia 7700 geforce go card.
I bought the laptop like 3 years ago and havn't played anything since Fallout 3. Its an
Asus G1,
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz T7200 667MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache
15.4" "Glare Type" WSXGA+ w/ Asus Splendid Video Technology
2GB DDR2 667 Dual Channel (2 Dimms)
160GB 5400RPM SATA
8x DVD Super Multi w/ Lightscribe
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7700 512MB
Any insight as to whether anyone thinks this could work or not is helpful. Thanks.
Thanks for the info, if I were to go completely insane and want to add wifi capability to the thing....what would I do?
First you'll need to know what kind you Wireless router you have B, G, N. It's will most likely be a G router but if it's a N the better. Then buy wireless card. I prefer Linksys, Netgear, or D-link . Your system has both PCI and PCIE slots available so you have plenty of room. Follow the installation instruction provide by the card manufacture. You should already know how to login to your network. 1 thing though when the card software gives you a choice of using it's software to manage the network or MS's Wireless Zero Configuration choose MS. On Windows 7 it does a really good job.
EDIT: I forgot that a lot of manufactures are working on Windows 7 drivers. If they don't have Windows 7 drivers yet most likely MS has created drivers for them. Check this site and do a search for the hardware you are planing to add. They OS will already have the drivers or download them though Windows Update. The problem here is since will are talking about a Wifi card you may need to plus it to the router to get the update. MS has a lot of Netgear drivers in it's OS all ready. I am using Netgear so I know this.
Arg! I don't really keep up with pc gaming. I was looking into STO, but I don't have the min. system req's apparently.
Does anyone know if it would still work if my pc meets all min. requirements except for the video card?
My laptop has a Nvidia 7700 geforce go card.
I bought the laptop like 3 years ago and havn't played anything since Fallout 3. Its an
Asus G1,
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz T7200 667MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache
15.4" "Glare Type" WSXGA+ w/ Asus Splendid Video Technology
2GB DDR2 667 Dual Channel (2 Dimms)
160GB 5400RPM SATA
8x DVD Super Multi w/ Lightscribe
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7700 512MB
Any insight as to whether anyone thinks this could work or not is helpful. Thanks.
The 7700 is OK you should be able to play at low setting. The minimum graphic specs for this game is a listed higher then it really is.
cipher_nemo, I love it when you put them in their place.:) This is why we make a good team. I know how to made things work but you understand why they works.;)
Coolness. You've helped a lot of people in this thread so far and I wouldn't have some random new person try to come in here and say otherwise.
thanks very much for the info...I saw another system on Newegg ( I know, I'm a menace) and it says it has an integrated LAN chipset with speed capabilities of 10/100/1000 Mbps. Does this one have wireless or should I just buy a freking 25$ wireless card and stop bothering you? Thanks again...
Mid Level:
ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.
I know I have a 600W PSU, but how do I know if I have "one 6 pin PCIE cable"? Is that like a power cable that connects the graphics card directly to the PSU?
I'm using a 8600GT now, so I don't see a cable running from the card to the PSU.
thanks very much for the info...I saw another system on Newegg ( I know, I'm a menace) and it says it has an integrated LAN chipset with speed capabilities of 10/100/1000 Mbps. Does this one have wireless or should I just buy a freking 25$ wireless card and stop bothering you? Thanks again...
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131618
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
I'm sure White Knight could do better, but here's a decent setup for 245.98 before the $10 mail in rebate.
You should be able to play low/med settings. the GPU is a bit dated but will work.
I would have gone with the AMD AM2+ socket with an Athlon X2 or AMD Athlon II X2 CPU because you can always upgrade to the Phenom II processors later which completes with the i5s and save cash. We don't know how much longer Intel will be making socket 775 CPU. They are nearing end of life. Where Phenom II are still very new.
Graphic Gaming cards:
Entry level:
ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.
Mid Level:
ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.
High End:
ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $250.00-600.00.
Not bad. I think he's running XP so 4 GB is a waste.
This would be 168.97. For on the cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103716
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128342
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146118
oh and also i forgot to say it has windows 7
I think you mean 700GB Hard drive.
I will play STO but at low settings. The ati hd radeon 4200 is what is hurting you. I this a laptop or Desktop? A Desktop GPU can be replace. A laptop can not.
Go here and run the STO test.
http://www.yougamers.com/?mainnavi=true
Here's a list of GPU. You need to make sure the PSU can support which card you get.
Graphic Gaming cards:
Entry level:
ATI HD 4650 and 4670 cards only needs a 400 W PSU.
Nvidia Geforce GT 240 needs a 350 W PSU
Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT needs a 400 W PSU.
All four of these cards usually do not need a 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level med. Price ranges on these cards are under $100.00. The ATI's usually a better choice here on a price/performance.
Mid Level:
ATI HD 4850,4890, 5750, 5770 and the Nvidia 9800 GT, 9800 GTX, GTS 250 needs a 450 to 500 W PSU with one 6 pin PCIE cable. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level High. Price Range: $100-230.00.
High End:
ATI HD 5850, 5870, 5970. Nvidia GTX 260, 275, 295 needs a 550 to 750 W PSU with two 6 pin or 1 6pin and 1 8 pin PCIE cables. Always check the box for system requirements.
STO Gaming level Very High. Price Range: $220.00-700.00.
the price was quite ok on the e5300, and I've never replaced just the cpu in my pc; it was allways a cpu/mb combo.
So, if I'd change the gpu to a GTS250 from nvidia I could theoretically run sto in High settings (1280x1024) ?
sweet man thx
With a 250, yes!
At reasonable resolutions you should get solid performance and be able to run at high settings with a 5750.
The 5750 is still a good card. If you want the 250, that's a great card too. The ATI equivalent to the NVIDIA 250 would be a 5770. There's still differences that make comparing ATI and NVIDIA difficult, but these two are close. The advantage of ATI's 5000 series cards is that it has DX11 support for future games.
Cool! Indeed, the GTS 250 is a solid card.
Nvidia 8800 GT.... Check
Q6600 Quad Core CPU @ 2.4Ghz Each... Check
4GB RAM... Check...
64 bit Windows Ugly OS... Check
Klingon Disruptor Pistol... Check
Good to go!
Old 12-24-2009, 08:49 AM #13
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yes you will run STO fine.......
My system specs are
3.2 pentium 4 hyperthread
9600 nvida gt
windows 32bit xp
4gigs of DDR2 ram 3.2 pentium 4 hyperthread
4gigs of ram but pc reconizes 3 gigs cause its a 32 bit operating system of course
ive seen the game run on a 1.81 sempron cpu with 7300 xfx diablo 512 video card...
yes you will have to turn the grafix down a bit but runs just fine! even in big battles! and still looks nice...
From the way it looks is if you have a 2.8 p4 processor you should be able to play this game on med setting and if your rig is maxed at then you may be able to go quality. This guy has actually seen it tested out in beta everyone estimating saying that you need to buy a new system is not necessary and I would venture its not a good time to upgrade right now with 6 core processors about to come out and a rumor of a new DDR too. So dont go out there wasting your money till you know for sure.
You failed on usage of quote tags. :rolleyes:
I actually know this situation much better than you do since Vox Vorcain is part of my fleet and a close friend. I have talked with him personally about this and his PC. To help the community, I'll share a little here. During his testing, his CPU was at 100% the whole time he played. And that was at idle. Imagine when you get in a graphically-demanding area (ie: not just idling in space), and your 100% CPU usage will be a huge issue. Welcome to lag central. And if you want to run Ventrilo or Teamspeak for voice-over-IP in your fleet while running the STO client? Forget it. You'll need better than a P4 for running STO as the system requirements state.
On top of that, upgrading from an Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Sempron is not "wasting your money". Those two CPUs are very old and outdated for pretty much any game coming out this year. You can rationalize all you want, but don't blame us when your old PC chokes on STO. White Knight, myself, and others are here helping the community with advice on system components that will run STO smoothly. Sure, you can probably run STO on a Netbook, but will it play smoothly or be enjoyable? Probably not. And an Intel Atom processor is comparable to both a Celeron and the earlier Pentium 4 cores (ie: Willamette and Northwood).
While some of the later Pentium 4 CPUs (ie: Prescott, Cedar Mill, etc.) might run STO on lower to medium settings, but they're still going to be maxed out. That means your CPU will always be working near peak while you play STO, or just about any new game for that matter. Your performance will suffer at some point in that equation.
The system requirement guidelines and our suggestions exist for a reason. Don't come complaining to us here when you have a poor gameplay experience if you didn't want to believe or follow them.
The only problem is, I can't figure out if it has built in wireless connectivity. Before you look at me like I'm stupid for asking about a desktop and wireless connectivity, I don't have cable in my bedroom and the whole house is a hotspot so it would be a ton simpler if it had wireless internet capability.
Can anyone help me out here?
It's doesn't have Wifi. The 9800 GT should let you play STO med/high at lower in game resolution. The good thing about this system is it's using over the counter parts. You will be able to upgrade it as you need for next 3-5 years.
Does anyone know if it would still work if my pc meets all min. requirements except for the video card?
My laptop has a Nvidia 7700 geforce go card.
I bought the laptop like 3 years ago and havn't played anything since Fallout 3. Its an
Asus G1,
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz T7200 667MHz FSB 4MB L2 Cache
15.4" "Glare Type" WSXGA+ w/ Asus Splendid Video Technology
2GB DDR2 667 Dual Channel (2 Dimms)
160GB 5400RPM SATA
8x DVD Super Multi w/ Lightscribe
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7700 512MB
Any insight as to whether anyone thinks this could work or not is helpful. Thanks.
EDIT: I forgot that a lot of manufactures are working on Windows 7 drivers. If they don't have Windows 7 drivers yet most likely MS has created drivers for them. Check this site and do a search for the hardware you are planing to add. They OS will already have the drivers or download them though Windows Update. The problem here is since will are talking about a Wifi card you may need to plus it to the router to get the update. MS has a lot of Netgear drivers in it's OS all ready. I am using Netgear so I know this.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/default.aspx
The 7700 is OK you should be able to play at low setting. The minimum graphic specs for this game is a listed higher then it really is.
oh and here's the link to the system...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227179
I know I have a 600W PSU, but how do I know if I have "one 6 pin PCIE cable"? Is that like a power cable that connects the graphics card directly to the PSU?
I'm using a 8600GT now, so I don't see a cable running from the card to the PSU.
The 10/100/1000 Mbps are wired speeds. You could easily throw in a $20+ wireless adapter on those PCs.